00:00 So you're not the gallery owner?
00:02 I'm not the gallery owner.
00:04 I am working...
00:06 Someone from Parker's Box.
00:08 I am someone from Parker's Box.
00:10 Parker's Box is a gallery.
00:12 It is a gallery.
00:14 And the name Parker's Box?
00:16 From what I understand it's a billiards term.
00:18 A billiards term?
00:20 This is what I understand.
00:22 Although I didn't name the gallery, so therefore I'm not absolutely positive.
00:24 But I'm pretty sure it has to do with the billiards term.
00:26 And it has something also to do possibly
00:28 with the building that the gallery is housed in.
00:30 So I think those two things were together in some way.
00:32 So I think those two things were together in some way.
00:34 So I think those two things were together in some way.
00:36 And the gallery is in New York?
00:38 The gallery is in Williamsburg, a section of Brooklyn.
00:40 A more recent section.
00:42 A lot of newer galleries are located there.
00:44 A lot of newer galleries are located there.
00:46 And you're a friend of the gallery?
00:48 Or an artist?
00:50 I'm actually an artist that shows at the gallery.
00:52 Do you have works here?
00:54 No.
00:56 We figured that wouldn't work out.
00:58 We figured that wouldn't work out.
01:00 They just came from Torino.
01:02 They just came from Torino.
01:04 And I had some work in Torino.
01:06 And the reason I'm also...
01:08 It's not about me, it's about this gallery.
01:10 But I also run another gallery in New York.
01:12 But I also run another gallery in New York.
01:14 So it makes it easy to be an artist who is a dealer at another gallery.
01:16 So it makes it easy to be an artist who is a dealer at another gallery.
01:18 So he figured that I could represent the gallery
01:20 at least well enough that I could just sit in a chair.
01:22 At least well enough that I could just sit in a chair.
01:24 Probably about as good as I can do it.
01:26 There are a lot of galleries here.
01:28 And it seems that you guys understand each other very well.
01:30 And it seems that you guys understand each other very well.
01:32 You're working together, you know each other.
01:34 You know, I don't know anybody.
01:36 I mean, I know a couple of people here.
01:38 There's a number of galleries from Williamsburg.
01:40 There's a number of galleries from Williamsburg.
01:42 And I certainly knew all of them.
01:44 But I don't know a good number of them.
01:46 But I don't know a good number of them.
01:48 They actually, if you really want to know,
01:50 they were giving New York galleries a special deal to come.
01:52 They were giving New York galleries a special deal to come.
01:54 So I think a lot of New York galleries made a point of coming
01:56 because it was less expensive.
01:58 Is that generally known?
02:00 Am I letting the cat out of the bag?
02:02 I don't know if this is a secret.
02:04 I hope, I don't know.
02:06 I don't know anything about how the art fair is run.
02:08 We won't tell the people.
02:10 We won't tell the people.
02:12 We're okay with that.
02:14 And so,
02:16 the Parkes books
02:18 had some kind of
02:20 concept in the books?
02:22 As an artist
02:24 that chose it, I'll just say that
02:26 I think the dealer,
02:28 the gallery owner, Alan Williams,
02:30 I would say that when I look around,
02:32 he's got an overriding theme
02:34 that definitely has a sense of humor.
02:36 that definitely has a sense of humor.
02:38 He definitely thinks that you can say things with humor.
02:40 He definitely thinks that you can say things with humor.
02:42 I think that
02:44 there's been so much written about.
02:46 I also think that
02:48 this is also maybe self-serving.
02:50 I tend to think that he shows
02:52 far more, I think, intelligent
02:54 and conceptual work.
02:56 Very much along the history of people like
02:58 Richard Prince, John Baldessari,
03:00 people in that vein
03:02 who do, I think,
03:04 intelligent or smart art
03:06 that is also very thoughtful
03:08 and conceptual.
03:10 And I think that if you want to be dogmatic,
03:12 if you want to say something,
03:14 if you want to make a point,
03:16 whether it be political or just about life
03:18 or whatever, it's not a bad idea
03:20 to do so humorously.
03:22 That's just my opinion.
03:26 Great.
03:30 Is that it?
03:32 If you have forgotten something...
03:34 I have very little to add.
03:36 It's been the best interview
03:38 of my life.
03:40 Okay, then thank you very much.
03:44 Your name is?
03:46 My name is Joshua.
03:48 Do we have that?
03:50 Alan Williams,
03:52 Farkers Box Gallery in Williamsburg,
03:54 Brooklyn, New York.
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