00:00 Yes, got. In the NIMP, got on the mission base, got, but not all the way to the primary
00:06 school. Primary school, we need to get them interested in the STEM subjects. Because from
00:13 there is the most, because it's too late. If suddenly Form 3, Form 4, Form 5, only you
00:18 want to get them interested, it's too late already. Because then after that, the university.
00:26 So we, of course, work in university, but we know we need to start earlier. So I guess
00:31 that's a good point, which we will have to talk to the Ministry of Education. But that
00:35 cuts across all, that's why I say it cuts across all ministries, this plan. So again,
00:42 it's what we need to do is a lot. And then the labour, training, reskilling, upskilling,
00:49 the TBETs, how do we look at them? PM had an idea to get some industries to adopt them
00:56 also, like the Germany model. Because Germany model, the TBETs, they work for Siemens or
01:05 BMW, all this, part of their TBET degree. Therefore, they actually get salary during
01:15 the course. Ours is not.
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