00:00Time for another edition of Presbyter Chat, where your questions are answered through the
00:06prism of pre-Nicene Christianity. Now your host, Presbyter Darren Kalama.
00:12Thanks for joining us. In our last episode, we talked about something called the Eclipse
00:17Theophany. It's the religious belief of many pre-Nicene Christians that Jesus descended to
00:24Earth from Heaven on November 24th of 29 AD during a total solar eclipse over Capernaum,
00:32just as a massive earthquake rocked a city named Nicaea at the same time, on the same day.
00:40And it's not just a theory, it's actually backed up by astronomical facts and non-religious witnesses
00:47to the events. And we're of course familiar with the event because it matches the first sentence
00:52of the Evangelion, the Gospel of the Lord, received as revelation by the Apostle Paul on the road to
00:59Damascus in 34 AD. And it reads, quote, In the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being
01:07governor of Judea, Jesus descended into Capernaum, a city in Galilee, unquote. And that 15th year
01:15corresponds to, you guessed it, 29 AD. But it wasn't the complete story. Now, as amazing as that
01:23synchronization is, it's only part of a much larger and stunning backdrop from an academic paper from
01:30the Journal of Pre-Nicene Christian Studies entitled, The Theophanic Replacement Protocol,
01:37A Forensic Reconstruction of Divine Identity Theft, Textual Erasure, and the Formation of Nicene
01:44Christianity. And in it, the author A.W. Mitchell lays historical facts from end to end, which
01:51some theologians now say definitively prove that what we call Christianity today is virtually
01:58unrecognizable from how it started. Now, to understand how all of this happened, you have
02:04to be able to answer the following question. How do you hide a total solar eclipse, a massive destructive
02:12earthquake, and hijack the world's largest religion all at the same time? It's a lot to ask, I know.
02:20So, to help out, we conducted a roundtable discussion to not only flesh out the core concepts
02:27behind the historical model known as the Theophanic Replacement Protocol, or TRP, but to also explore the
02:35implications of what can only be described as a theological crime scene, or to put it another way,
02:42divine identity theft, the grafting of the Hebrew deity Yahweh onto God our Father, who was, of course,
02:50only revealed by Jesus. Let's go ahead and join the discussion.
02:54Okay. I want you to start with the date.
02:57A very specific one.
02:58November 24th, 29 A.D. Just lock that into your mind.
03:03Right. Because this isn't the date you're, you know, going to find in your standard history books.
03:07No, not at all. And according to the stack of documents we have in front of us today,
03:13this might be the single most important day in human history.
03:16It's the day the world changed physically. That quite literally.
03:20Yeah, we're not talking about some kind of metaphor here.
03:23No, we're talking about a cosmic terrestrial signature. That's the term the sources use.
03:28Right. So picture this. It's just afternoon. You're in a region called Bithynia. That's modern day
03:35northern Turkey.
03:36The sun's high in the sky.
03:37And then bam, without any warning, the sky goes pitch black. Total solar eclipse.
03:42And at that exact moment, as the light just dies, the ground beneath your feet starts to heave violently.
03:48A massive earthquake. It rips right through the city of Nicaea.
03:52Darkness above, chaos below. I mean, it's the kind of event that feels like the universe is literally tearing itself apart.
03:59Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we're doing something, well, a little different.
04:05We're not just summarizing a paper. We're walking through a crime scene. A 2,000-year-old cold case.
04:11We're looking at a forensic reconstruction of early Christian history. We're pulling from the work of A.W. Mitchell, specifically a paper called the Theophanic Replacement Protocol, and also some research from the Journal of Pre-Nicene Christian Studies.
04:25And we should probably be upfront here. The claim being made in these documents is huge.
04:30It's massive. The central thesis is that the version of Christianity the world has known for about 17 centuries is the result of a deliberate, calculated cover-up.
04:39A cover-up they call divine identity theft.
04:42The technical term is the Theophanic Replacement Protocol, or TRP.
04:45It sounds like something from a spy movie. A black ops file.
04:49And it functions like one.
04:50The whole premise is this. The original faith, what they call the primary stratum, wasn't about a baby born in a manger to fulfill old prophecies.
04:59It was about the sudden, fully human descent of a divine being.
05:04Jesus revealing a God that humanity had quite literally never heard of before.
05:09And the protocol, the TRP, was the operation to hijack that entire event.
05:14Exactly. It was a multi-century operation to take this new alien God the Father and systematically swap them out for a different deity.
05:23For Yahweh.
05:24To take the messenger Jesus and graft him onto the history and the family tree of the God of the Hebrew Bible.
05:30So, for almost 2,000 years, the world has been worshiping a synthesis, a hybrid.
05:36That's the argument. And in this deep dive, we're going to walk through how they claim it happened, step by step.
05:41From the event itself to the final cover-up.
05:44It's an invitation to look at this history not as the smooth, organic growth of a religion.
05:48But as a crime scene.
05:49Where the winners wrote the history books and burned the evidence of the losers.
05:54Okay. So, before we open this file, let's just lay down some ground rules.
05:57These ideas are, to put it mildly, radical.
06:00They challenge the core narrative of, what, 2.4 billion people.
06:04Something like that.
06:04So, to be crystal clear, we are reporters today.
06:08We're just walking through the forensic model that Mitchell and the Marcionite research present.
06:12We're not taking sides.
06:14But we are going to take their claims seriously and see where the evidence they present actually leads.
06:19We have to follow the documents.
06:20If it's a cold case, we look at the fingerprints.
06:23And the very first fingerprint is that date.
06:25November 24th, 29 AD.
06:28Why is that specific Tuesday in November the anchor for this entire thing?
06:34It starts with hard science.
06:36The sources point to modern astronomical retrocalculations, specifically using NASA data.
06:41Okay.
06:42And they confirm, without a doubt, that on November 24th, 29 AD, there was a total solar eclipse.
06:48A total eclipse.
06:49Not a partial one.
06:50Total.
06:50And the path of totality, the moon's shadow, passed directly over Bithynia.
06:55Specifically, over the city of Nicaea.
06:57Okay, everyone listening.
06:58Put a mental pin in the name Nicaea.
07:00Yeah, that piece of geography is going to come back with a vengeance later on.
07:03I bet.
07:04So, totality was over Turkey.
07:06What about further south in Galilee?
07:08In Capernaum, this eclipse would have been a massive partial eclipse.
07:12We're talking 95% magnitude.
07:14So, at midday, the sun just almost disappears.
07:18The sky goes dark.
07:19It would have been terrifying.
07:21But it wasn't just the darkness.
07:22No.
07:23There was a simultaneous geological event.
07:25And for this, we have a historical witness, a second century historian named Phlegon of
07:30Trials.
07:31Oh, God.
07:32Yeah.
07:33And Phlegon records a great earthquake in Bithynia that, quote, overturned many things in
07:38Nicaea, happening at the exact same time as a solar eclipse.
07:42So, there it is, the cosmic terrestrial signature, darkness and shaking.
07:47But how does this connect to the story of Jesus?
07:49It's the timeline of Tiberius Caesar.
07:51History tells us the 15th year of Tiberius is the year 29 AD.
07:56Okay.
07:56Now, you look at the source material they cite, the Evangelion, which they identify as
08:01the original gospel of the Lord, it opens with a very specific claim.
08:05It doesn't start within the beginning or anything like that.
08:08No.
08:08It starts, in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, Jesus descended into Capernaum.
08:12Descended.
08:13That's the key word, isn't it?
08:15It's the smoking gun.
08:16The Greek word is catelfian.
08:18It means a vertical movement, a descent from above.
08:21So, no nativity story.
08:22None.
08:23The sources are absolutely adamant about this.
08:25The original gospel narrative has no Mary, no Joseph, no manger, no shepherds, no wise men,
08:30no genealogy.
08:31So, in this primary version, Jesus just appears.
08:34He appears, but we have to be super precise here, because the sources are, he didn't appear
08:40as like a ghost or a spirit or a beam of light.
08:43Right.
08:43He descended in fully human form.
08:46Okay.
08:46Let's unpack that.
08:47Because when I hear descent, I think of an angel or a vision.
08:51No, he was tangible.
08:52He looked like a man of about 30.
08:54He had flesh and blood.
08:55He was subject to gravity.
08:56If you'd shaken his hand, it would have been solid.
08:57But no biological origin.
08:59He didn't grow up.
09:00He just arrived.
09:01The source material is explicit on this point.
09:03It says, Jesus descended into Capernaum in fully human form, and he arrived on earth
09:08the same way he left it after the resurrection, by ascending and descending from heaven in
09:13fully human form.
09:14He came the same way he left.
09:16Exactly.
09:16That's a fascinating way to put it.
09:18It's like a diver entering the ocean.
09:20The diver doesn't need to be born from the water.
09:22He just jumps in, fully formed, with his suit on.
09:25That's a perfect analogy.
09:26It's an intrusion from the outside.
09:29A rescue mission.
09:29But wait a minute.
09:31If Phlegon recorded this eclipse and earthquake in 29 AD, and the original gospel ties Jesus'
09:37arrival to that exact year, why do we all associate the darkness with the crucifixion?
09:43Ah.
09:44That is what the paper calls the Phlegonian conflation.
09:47Okay.
09:48This is a brilliant bit of forensic work.
09:50Later church fathers, people like Eusebius, they knew about Phlegon's record.
09:55It was a well-known historical fact.
09:57But the date didn't fit their new narrative.
09:59They needed the big cosmic sign to happen at his death, not his arrival.
10:03Precisely.
10:04So they conflated the events.
10:05They claimed that Phlegon's eclipse from 29 AD was the darkness at the crucifixion, which
10:10happened in, say, 30 or 33 AD.
10:12They just moved it.
10:13They tried to.
10:15But the sources point out a huge scientific impossibility.
10:17What's that?
10:18You cannot have a total solar eclipse during the festival of Passover.
10:21Why not?
10:21The orbital mechanics don't work.
10:24Passover always happens at a full moon.
10:26Solar eclipses can only happen at a new moon, when the moon is between the Earth and the
10:29sun.
10:30It's astronomically impossible.
10:32It is.
10:33So the darkness at the crucifixion, described in the standard gospels, is scientifically impossible
10:38as an eclipse.
10:40But a total eclipse in November of 29 AD.
10:43Is a historical fact confirmed by NASA.
10:47The claim is that the apologists took the powerful theophanic signature of his arrival
10:51and just pasted it on to his death to add drama and fulfill a perceived prophecy.
10:57That's the first act of identity theft, then.
10:59Taking the cosmic sign of his arrival and repurposing it.
11:03But why?
11:03Why go to all this trouble to change the story from descent to birth?
11:08Because of the gods.
11:09Or, more accurately, the god.
11:11Explain that.
11:12I want to be very specific about the theology laid out in these sources.
11:16The pre-Nicene Christians, the ones following this original path, they will leave there
11:19as only one true god.
11:21The father.
11:22The alien god.
11:22Right.
11:23The god that Jesus revealed.
11:24And he's called alien because until that moment in 29 AD, he was completely and utterly
11:28unknown to this world.
11:29So, Abraham didn't know him.
11:31Moses didn't know him.
11:32Nobody knew him.
11:34He is a god of pure grace, pure peace, with no prior history in our timeline.
11:38He created heaven and earth, but was unknown to humanity until Jesus descended.
11:44Okay.
11:44So, if the father is the one true god, then what is Yahweh, the god of the Old Testament?
11:49This is the most radical part.
11:51Yeah.
11:51The sources argue that for these original Christians, Yahweh, the creator god of the
11:55Hebrew Bible, was regarded as a deity or a, quote, unclean spirit of some variety.
12:00An unclean spirit.
12:01Or a demiurge, a lesser power, a territorial god.
12:04The sources are very clear.
12:06Yahweh is the god of this world, that he is not the father.
12:09And the sources use a table to prove this, right?
12:11The characterological antithesis.
12:13Yes.
12:13It's basically a side-by-side rap sheet.
12:16It's presented as damning forensic evidence.
12:18So, what's on it?
12:18On one side, you have Yahweh.
12:20The source cites 1 Samuel 15.3, where Yahweh explicitly commands the slaughter of the Amalekites.
12:26And the order is to kill child and infant.
12:28It's a command for genocide.
12:29It is.
12:30Now, on the other side of the table, you have the father, as revealed by Jesus.
12:35And his ethic is, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.
12:40Right.
12:40One is an eye for an eye.
12:42The other is turn the other cheek.
12:44One uses conditional curses and blessings based on obedience to the law.
12:49The other offers unconditional grace.
12:51One is tribal, territorial, concerned with one group of people.
12:55And the other is universal.
12:57Exactly.
12:57The argument is that you cannot reconcile these two character profiles.
13:01You can't just say, oh, God was just in a different mood in the Old Testament.
13:05They're ontological opposites.
13:07They are.
13:07And for these early Christians, the conclusion was simple.
13:10Yahweh was the jailer.
13:12Jesus was the liberator who descended into the jail to set the prisoners free.
13:16Okay, but that brings us to the billion dollar question.
13:18If the original message was, Jesus saves us from the jailer Yahweh, how in the world did
13:23we end up with a faith where Yahweh is the father of Jesus?
13:26That is the protocol.
13:27The theophanic replacement protocol.
13:29The hijack.
13:30The source material calls it a hostile takeover of the faith.
13:34The entire mission was to take the moral authority and the spiritual power of Jesus, the liberator,
13:40and harness it for the service of Yahweh, the creator.
13:44It really is divine identity, though.
13:45It's the perfect crime.
13:47Think about it.
13:48If you can convince the prisoners that the liberator is actually the son of the jailer.
13:53Then the prison is secure forever.
13:55The prisoners will stop trying to escape.
13:57They'll even defend the prison walls because they think the jailer is actually on their side.
14:02That is a chilling metaphor.
14:03So how do you pull off a heist of that magnitude?
14:06It couldn't have happened overnight.
14:07No, it took centuries.
14:09The sources break it down into distinct phases.
14:11Phase one was what they call catechetical refounding.
14:14Catechetical?
14:15So like teaching?
14:16Exactly.
14:16They point to an early Christian text called the Dadok.
14:19It's like a training manual for new converts.
14:22And what did it do?
14:23The sources argue it was the software update that prepared people for the forgery to come.
14:28Before they even touched the scriptures, they changed the mindset of the believers.
14:34The Dadok starts to conflate loving God with Yahweh, the creator.
14:38It reinstates the two ways of the law.
14:41You know, blessings for obedience, curses for disobedience.
14:44So they start reprogramming the believers to think in terms of the old law again.
14:48Yes.
14:49And once that new software is installed, you can start messing with the hardware, the texts themselves.
14:55Phase two, textual forgery.
14:57This is where the real cutting and pasting begins.
14:59First and foremost, they had to get rid of the descent.
15:02Of course.
15:02Because a Jesus who just descends from heaven in 29 AD is an outsider.
15:07He has no connection to the Jews or to Yahweh's story.
15:10He's a total stranger.
15:11So you erase the descent narrative and you insert a birth narrative.
15:15The nativity.
15:16Think about what that does functionally.
15:18By creating genealogies, like in Matthew and Luke, they tie Jesus biologically to King David and to Abraham.
15:24He's no longer an alien visitor.
15:25He's the seed of David.
15:27He becomes the property of the old covenant.
15:29Exactly.
15:30And then there's John the Baptist.
15:31In the original Evangelion, Jesus just appears and starts his work.
15:36But in the later texts, he gets baptized by John first.
15:39Why is that so important?
15:40It's a subordination ritual.
15:42By having John, a prophet of the old law, baptize Jesus, they visually demonstrate that Jesus is under the authority of the old system.
15:50It's a public act of submission.
15:51It validates the old guard.
15:53It does.
15:54And then there's a key interpolation in Paul's letter to the Galatians.
15:57The line about being born of a woman born under the law?
16:01Yes.
16:02The sources claim that line was completely absent from Paul's original letters.
16:05It was added later.
16:06Why?
16:07What does it do?
16:08It's a kill shot.
16:09It explicitly states he is part of Yahweh's creation, born of a woman, and he is subject to Yahweh's rules, born under the law.
16:16It completely reverses Paul's entire theology of freedom from the law.
16:21Speaking of Paul, the picture these sources paint of him is so different from the traditional one.
16:27He's not the architect of the institutional church.
16:29He sounds more like a resistance leader watching his movement get co-opted in real time.
16:34That's the most accurate way to see him through this lens.
16:36The sources focus heavily on the Antioch defection.
16:40That's the famous argument between Peter and Paul.
16:42Right, which we usually hear about as a minor spat over table manners.
16:47You know, can Jewish Christians eat with Gentiles?
16:49But the sources say it was much more than that.
16:51They call it a counterinsurgency.
16:53A counterinsurgency.
16:54Let's break that down.
16:55So James, leader in Jerusalem, had actually come over to Paul's side.
16:59He was eating with Gentiles.
17:00Which was a huge deal.
17:02Massive.
17:02It meant he had accepted the father-only gospel.
17:05He had abandoned Yahweh's dietary laws.
17:08The resistance was winning.
17:10So James was on board with the alien god.
17:13He was.
17:13But then Peter shows up.
17:16And the source describes Peter not as a humble apostle, but as the enforcer for the circumcision faction.
17:21The Yahweh loyalists.
17:22Yes.
17:23He arrives with a cadre of Torah zealots.
17:25It's described like a mob shakedown.
17:27Seriously.
17:28Peter bullies James back into submission.
17:31He uses social fear.
17:33The text in Galatians says James feared them which were of the circumcision.
17:37So he backed down.
17:38He capitulated.
17:39So it wasn't a theological debate.
17:41It was a political purge.
17:43Exactly.
17:44Peter strong-armed the leadership back under the authority of Yahweh.
17:48And Paul is just standing there watching this whole thing go down.
17:51And he is absolutely furious.
17:53When he writes about it in Galatians, he calls their message another gospel.
17:59He's not just venting his frustration.
18:01He's running a battle report.
18:02He says, false brethren were brought in to spy out our liberty that they might bring us into bondage.
18:09Spy out our liberty.
18:11That's the language of espionage, not theology.
18:13Paul sees the protocol happening right in front of his eyes.
18:16He sees these agents trying to drag his converts back into the prison of the law.
18:20And he knows what's coming.
18:21There's a prophecy mentioned from Acts 20.
18:23The wolf prophecy.
18:24Yes.
18:25Paul is leaving the elders at Ephesus.
18:28And he tells them,
18:29I know that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
18:34Grievous wolves.
18:35But then he adds the really chilling part.
18:37Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things.
18:42So the threat is coming from the inside.
18:44He wasn't just worried.
18:45He was predicting the synthesis.
18:46He foresaw that the God of this world, Yahweh, would retake control of the narrative from within the movement itself.
18:54I mean, looking at history, he was right.
18:55The resistance lost.
18:57They did.
18:58And the suppression was systematic and brutal.
19:01This leads to the later phases of the protocol.
19:04The erasure.
19:05We jump forward a couple of centuries now to the year 303 AD.
19:10The Emperor Diocletian.
19:11The Great Persecution.
19:13Diocletian orders all Christian scriptures to be burned.
19:16But the source makes a fascinating forensic point about this.
19:20By this time, the synthesized texts, the ones that blend Jesus and Yahweh, the ones of the nativity stories, they were widespread.
19:28They were supported by the growing institutional bishop network.
19:31But the Marcenite texts, the originals.
19:33They were more concentrated in specific communities.
19:36So when the imperial order came down to burn the book.
19:38They were specifically targeted for total annihilation.
19:40It created what the paper calls a documentary vacuum.
19:44The originals were systematically turned to ash, which allowed the synthesized, proto-Orthodox versions to become the only surviving witnesses to the story.
19:53Which brings us to the final act.
19:55The final seal on the news story.
19:57The Council of Nicaea, 325 AD.
20:00This is the climax of the whole operation.
20:03And the location.
20:04It's just...
20:05It's spooky.
20:06It really is.
20:06It's the same city, Nicaea.
20:08The exact spot where the earthquake struck during the eclipse, during the descent, back in 29 AD.
20:14The site of the rupture becomes the site of the repair.
20:17The symbolism is just overwhelming.
20:19The place where the alien god physically shook the foundations of the old world is the very same place where the Roman Empire cemented the repair job.
20:26And they did it with one specific legal phrase.
20:28The homo usios.
20:29Yes.
20:30Of one substance.
20:31The council, backed by the emperor, decreed that Jesus the son is homo usios with God the father.
20:37But the Nicene Creed explicitly defines the father as the maker of heaven and earth.
20:42Which is Yahweh.
20:43So, by law, you could no longer say they were different beings.
20:47It became a heresy to separate them.
20:48Exactly.
20:49The homo usios clause was the dogmatic lock.
20:52It legally fused the identity of the liberator Jesus with the identity of the creator Yahweh.
20:58Anyway, the divine identity theft was now official state doctrine.
21:03If you denied it, you were an enemy of the Roman Empire.
21:06The perfect crime.
21:07The evidence was burned.
21:08The witnesses were silenced.
21:10And the new story was enforced by the sword.
21:13And yet, the sources say the protocol wasn't completely perfect.
21:16Yeah.
21:16There were cracks in the wall.
21:17Something survived.
21:18Okay, let's talk about survival.
21:19The name Jerome comes up.
21:21He's the one who translated the Bible into Latin, right?
21:23The Vulgate.
21:24Yes.
21:24The Vulgate became the standard Bible in the West for a thousand years.
21:28Jerome is a key figure in cementing the synthesis.
21:31But there's a huge catch.
21:33What is it?
21:34When he set out to translate Paul's letters, the Latin texts available to him were a complete mess.
21:39They'd been edited and re-edited and copied so many times.
21:43He needed a reliable early Greek source text.
21:46And where did he find one?
21:47The Vatican Library's own records admit this.
21:49No way!
21:50Yes.
21:51Jerome had to use Marcionite texts.
21:53He used the heretics books.
21:54He had no choice.
21:56They were the only ones that had preserved the earliest, most reliable copies of Paul's letters.
22:01So, ironically, even the architect of the final Catholic Bible was dependent on the very people his church was trying to erase.
22:09So the DNA of the original message is still hidden in the Vulgate?
22:12It's in there.
22:13You just have to know where to look.
22:14That's incredible.
22:15And there's also physical evidence.
22:17A stone.
22:18The Deer Lylee inscription.
22:20This is a fantastic piece of archaeology.
22:22It was found in Syria, and it's dated to 318 AD.
22:26That's just seven years before the Council of Nicaea.
22:29Right on the cusp.
22:30It's an inscription on a Marcionite church building.
22:32And what does it say?
22:33It dedicates the church to the Lord and Savior, Jesus the Good.
22:37Jesus the Good.
22:38It sounds simple, but it's a profound theological statement.
22:42The Good, in Greek krestos, was the specific title the Marcionites used to distinguish the Father, the alien God, from the just or severe creator God, Yahweh.
22:53So it's proof.
22:55Right up until the very end, there were public churches openly worshiping Jesus as the messenger of a good God.
23:02They were still there.
23:03They hadn't been completely stamped out yet.
23:05No.
23:05And the sources bring this story right up to the present day.
23:08They talk about a great return, an apocatestasis.
23:12Happening in 2020.
23:13In our lifetime.
23:14Yes.
23:15With the publication of a book called The Very First Bible in 2020.
23:19The claim is that the Marcionite church, or at least its core texts and beliefs, have reemerged.
23:25They argue that the protocol has finally run its course after 1700 years.
23:30The original Evangelion is back.
23:33It really does feel like the end of a movie where the truth that was buried 2000 years ago finally comes to light.
23:39It does.
23:40And it forces you to look at that Bible on your shelf in a completely different way.
23:44You start to see the seams.
23:47That's the perfect word for it.
23:48Once you see the seams, the awkward way a genealogy is pasted onto the front of a gospel,
23:53or the way Paul seems to be fighting with his own colleagues, you can't unsee it.
23:59It changes how you read everything.
24:00Take that concept of fully human again.
24:03It just fundamentally shifts the entire logic of the incarnation.
24:06If Jesus descended fully human and then ascended fully human,
24:10then the physical world isn't something he needed to be born into to experience.
24:15It wasn't about becoming human.
24:16It was about a human form being entering a foreign environment.
24:21It brings us right back to that core idea from the beginning.
24:24He arrived on Earth the same way he left it, by ascending and descending from heaven.
24:29It frames his time here not as a life that was lived from birth to death, but as a mission that was executed.
24:34You know, there's a quote that was in our brief for this deep dive that just perfectly sums up the historical challenge here.
24:41It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
24:45Attributed to Mark Twain.
24:46And yeah, it applies perfectly.
24:48We're talking about 1700 years of history, tradition, art, music, culture.
24:53All of it built on the foundation of the Nicene narrative.
24:57To suggest that it's all based on a protocol of identity theft, that is a very, very hard pill for anyone to swallow.
25:03It is.
25:04But the forensic evidence, the sources lay out, the astronomy, the textual analysis, the archaeology, the internal contradictions, it's compelling.
25:11It makes you wonder.
25:12It raises the ultimate question, doesn't it?
25:14If this model is even partially true, if the god of this world, Yahweh, successfully hijack the message of the alien god.
25:23Then what have we been looking at for the last two millennia?
25:26Exactly.
25:27Are the institutions we see today, the cathedrals, the denominations, all the structures, are they monuments to the liberator?
25:35Or are they extensions of the jailer's prison?
25:38That is the question the sources really want you to wrestle with.
25:41If the face on the statue is Jesus, but the spirit animating the system is Yahweh, who are people actually worshipping?
25:51And that is a thought that will definitely keep you up at night.
25:53It will indeed.
25:54Wow.
25:55We have covered a huge amount of ground today.
25:57From a solar eclipse over ancient Turkey in 29 AD, all the way to the re-emergence of these texts in 2020.
26:04It's a lot to process.
26:06It's history written by the losers, finally getting a chance to see the light of day.
26:10It really is.
26:10Thank you for walking us through this whole investigation.
26:13It has been truly revealing.
26:15My pleasure.
26:15It's always good to check the foundations of the thing.
26:17May our Father's Holy Spirit find and guide you in these confusing times and lift the veil from your hearts and minds.
26:28I'm Darren Kalam and we'll see you next time on Presbyter Chat.
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