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00:00that's all parties are excused you may step out

00:03this is case number 542 on account in the matter of trojan versus wilson

00:06president sworn in judge you may be seated sir have a seat please

00:10miss trojan you claim a loan to the defendant in the amount of what is it

00:14five hundred dollars yes that's correct the loan was in order to pay certain

00:18court costs and fines involving an arrest that the defendant had had was

00:23that arrest for domestic violence yes okay very good that was a fast yes

00:29easy the defendant acknowledges the fact you paid for the fines and court costs

00:37is that right you admit that she gave you the money yes but you say it was not a

00:43loan there was a reason that she gave you the money i'm ready to hear it okay well

00:52christine herself had an outstanding court trial what kind of case terrorists

00:59making annoying phone calls making threatening phone calls what kind of

01:03case did you have it was for making annoying phone calls harassment harassment

01:08can i see what you have it is making harassing phone calls to whom miss

01:13trojan and it was an ex-friend of mine also male or female male next boyfriend of

01:21yours no not a boyfriend so she had a pending case yes that i was a her only

01:26witness to and us after which would be determined after that that look at me

01:32don't look down there i'm sorry baby look at i i like to keep it together miss

01:37you had a domestic violence case yes which you were fined you hadn't paid them so you

01:47you would be arrested something like she was something like that it's close enough she gave you the money now you're telling me that the reason she gave you the money is because she had a pending case and you were subpoenaed as a witness to testify in her case

02:06yes go ahead and at the same time the exact same time that her case was going on my i had a progress report due for my case my prog i every so many months i would have to come to court show progress on my payments to the neighborhood family center where i took my domestic violence classes and for her case her attorney this very same day that i was going in that i made the four hundred dollar payment was the very same day that her attorney called her

02:36and told her and told her about my case and asked her questions about why i i don't know because they were trying to impeach me as a witness for the on the prosecution

02:45and when christine intervened and she was trying to secure that i was not going to be impeached as a witness for her which i don't know why she came up with this but she

02:59she thought better for me to pay my entire balance on my fines than to have a reason for them to

03:08for them to

03:10i don't know your honor it's not a lie you know it's not a lie excuse me okay so let me try to put

03:18i've never came to her to ask her for it let me try to put this succinctly

03:22your defense is she paid this money so that when you were called as a witness in her harassment case

03:31the people prosecutor would not be able to impeach you as a witness by demonstrating that you hadn't

03:39paid appropriate court costs and fines on your other case is that right yes ma'am

03:45yes ma'am

03:46i thought that's what you just told me

03:48and therefore she on her own volition

03:50yes

03:51took it upon herself

03:53to pay the court costs and fines which were how much

03:56to give herself peace of mind

03:58four hundred it was she gave me four hundred dollars and i have received

04:00she gave just a minute so she gave you the money

04:03no she gave it to sheila the director of the neighborhood family center

04:06so she didn't give you the money she gave it to sheila

04:08she went with me that very night and took me yes

04:10yes ma'am

04:11she gave it to sheila

04:12yes ma'am

04:13yes ma'am

04:14that's another lie your honor

04:15okay

04:16now you tell me miss trojan your version of why you paid this money for her

04:21okay

04:22um

04:23she came but she approached me and asked me for the money to pay off this this fine

04:28and the fine

04:29when did she do that

04:30um it was in the later part of april i believe

04:33go ahead

04:34and she asked me um if i would loan her the money because at this time um i had just

04:39recently

04:40what she asked you

04:41uh it was at her uh apartment

04:43go ahead

04:44and um

04:46regarding the case that she's talking about

04:48she's

04:49okay

04:50you were in her apartment and she said to you

04:51uh

04:52well let's let's go back a little bit

04:54when i was i drove her home one day i was dropping her off at her apartment

04:57there was a um ellie county sheriff's vehicle out in front of her apartment

05:01and she as we were going down the street she grabbed my arm and said don't turn don't turn keep going

05:06and so i kept going she had me parked down the street and then she asked me to go to her apartment to see if the sheriffs were there for her

05:13and i said what's going on what have you done and she said well i have this outstanding um i have this case and i have monies are due and she goes and i'm worried that they're there to pick me up on that because i haven't paid my fines

05:26and so um i went i went to her apartment and um the the when i walked over to her apartment the sheriffs were already gone so i came back and then she had gotten out of my car and came and then we went up to her apartment and then that's when she had asked me if i could loan her the money to pay off these fines

05:43tell me about the whole conversation did any part of the conversation have to do with your upcoming case no because at that time i was i was going through uh my court case but it hadn't even gone to trial yet and i was taking it to trial

05:54so i didn't even have it i didn't have an idea that she was what happens to trial um i have the paperwork here your honor if you'd like to see it just tell me

06:01uh i may look at it what happened well at the time i was going it was going to um i was going to court on it and it hadn't gone to trial yet so i told me that already i asked you what happened when it went to trial

06:12it went to trial and then um she was a witness for me and um i ended up losing the case so you were convicted i was convicted so she's not a very good witness no

06:23judge judy continues in a moment christine trojan says former friend shira wilson owes for an unpaid loan for court fines

06:32shira says she never asked christine for the money i'd like to see the paperwork on her case sure

06:40who are you i'm her boyfriend and i i know a lot about what went on with oh well step up here instead of

06:48sitting there and laughing to shh quiet what do you do for a living i'm in sales what's your name carrie

06:58wagoner what kind of sales you and mr wagoner uh internet have a company of your own no so you work for somebody

07:05else yes i do so tell me what you know about this money that was paid

07:12about the money that was paid by the plaintiff on the defendant's behalf

07:17no problem well first of all it wasn't five hundred dollars that she's suing for

07:21it was four hundred dollars second of all if if shara came to her in april for the money the bill the

07:28court fines were paid in march a month earlier listen to me there is no contest mr wagoner

07:35stop put your hand in front of you oh sorry put your hand in front of you there is no question

07:43there's not an issue as to the fact that the money was paid by the plaintiff on the defendant's behalf

07:49whether it was in march or april so that doesn't make any difference do you understand sure

07:57what else do you have to contribute well the fact is that christine came to shara about her case because

08:04i have the same judge she was paranoid that she was paranoid were you present mr wagoner i was not

08:10then you may be seated sir your honor speak not i'm reading what is this motion to exclude defense witness is that her

08:24yes yes i'm her so it's her only witness they were trying to have me impeached for whatever reason

08:29excluded whatever not impeached excluded that's the word did you ultimately testify yes yes she did that

08:37statement in there does not um it's not for her it's it's for a totally different witness on the other

08:42on the plaintiff's side oh yeah okay tell me about the case that you were convicted of miss wilson

08:50i threw a hairbrush at my boyfriend that he threw at me and i was taken to jail for it and i put no contest

08:58you threw at this boyfriend yes you threw a hairbrush at him yes that he had a razor edge no did it injure him

09:05yes where did it injure him above his forehead was this the first time that you'd been taken into

09:11custody on a domestic violence complaint yes on any account okay are you living together now still i

09:16yes oh good for you so that the only one who's had any money as a result of this lover's squabble is her

09:22is that right correct i have a history i can show you the history of me my payments to the courts were

09:26under control i had no need to second just a second i assume that you were making the payments to the court

09:32because you knew you had done something wrong is that right i was making the payments because i had

09:36an outstanding balance for the class because you had done something wrong you pled no contest which is

09:41equivalent to a plea of guilty right absolutely and you were making your payments yes correct because

09:46you did something wrong yes so you had to be punished yes and you had to be punished by going to classes

09:54for which you had to pay right correct and in addition pay certain court costs because you ate up the

10:02court's time with your nonsense and you got charged for that right right now what kind of statement does it

10:10make miss wilson if somebody else is punished for you listen to me what kind of statement does that make

10:18statement does that make for you that is almost like saying she should go to jail for me because she

10:26wanted me to do something so she'll go and do my time i can pay somebody to do my time i don't have

10:32to go to jail myself as punishment if i can get somebody else to do it that's terrific i was very

10:36proud of the fact that i've been able to take care of all my all my great then that's what i want you to do

10:41you're going to feel absolutely terrific miss wilson because you're going to complete the payment of your fine

10:47judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of four hundred dollars that's all

10:51thank you body's excuse may step out the reason the friendship's bad is not because of the case

10:55it's because i lent her a hundred dollars she's never paid me back shara wilson has never taken

10:59responsibility for anything in her life we went to have a suit after that we went she gave me the money she

11:04we went to have a suit we went to morango we've gone she promised me a number of times of paying certain dates

11:09and times she never did no i don't know them any money that's why she hasn't been biased why the

11:13friendship went bad not because of them because of her and me and now the next case all parties in the

11:18matter of simon versus cavalier step forward please 25 year old grant writer jennifer simon is suing her

11:24ex-roommate 24 year old designer katie cavalier for breaking their apartment lease katie says she moved

11:32out because jennifer has a temper all right let's get some stipulated facts here so that we can move on with

11:38this case quickly miss simon the defendant was a roommate of yours in a shared house that's correct

11:43and according to you she left one month prior to her agreed tenancy yes owing some 900 in rent yes

11:54the defendant says that while she did agree to remain in initially agreed to remain as a roommate and

12:03share expenses for the month of january she was forced to move out because of the behavior that

12:10was going on in the house yes and you also say miss simon that when she left she left some of her

12:18personal property there that was there during the month of january in 2003 that's correct making the

12:25room unrentable okay why did you move out i moved out because the behavior that i was dealing with

12:34living with them in the apartment was tell me unrealizable tell me about loud fighting screaming

12:40physical fighting who was fighting jen and her roommate amit tell me about it um i would come out of the

12:48shower at eight o'clock in the morning and there would be screaming and fighting in the hallway

12:52um it generally consisted of jen trying to strike amit and he would try to hold her back um and it was

13:00and how many times did this happen probably 15 20 times okay and when did you speak to her about it

13:08the first week of uh november last week of october i spoke to both of them at the same time and i told

13:15them the reasons i was unhappy living there that being one of them and that if it continued and if i

13:21continued to feel uncomfortable living there i would go back to our original agreement which was to move

13:26out the end of december did they agree to that yes they acknowledged i was upset and that that was my

13:32wishes no no did they agree to the fact that they would allow you to modify your rental agreement with

13:41them yes is that correct no i don't remember i i meet and i tend to fight sometimes is he your boyfriend

13:49no he's not we've been friends for a long time but i don't recall the conversation that she's talking

13:54about nor do i ever remember um talking about a different move out time our lease ended january

14:0031st and we were all supposed to live there until january 31st can i ask a question of who of jen no you

14:08ask me can i ask you a question yeah you can ask me um when i originally moved in i was told that the

14:14lease ended december 31st that's true i mean i was i was taking a shorthand a bit of a shorthand

14:21originally the lease was up the end of december but then you all agreed to extend it until the end

14:25of january yes that was by agreement so i made a shorthand now when after october november were you

14:32subjected to the kind of behavior that forced you to move and did you in fact tell miss simon that you

14:37were moving yes what reason did you give her i told her that i did not appreciate um being witness

14:45to the fighting there when did you tell her that the first week of november no no no after that you

14:50stayed november oh the first week of december the first week of december i told her my father was

14:55coming to town to move my things out the following week the second week of december is that correct

15:00that she moved her things out in december um she packed up some of her things her father did come in

15:05mid december however i was of the understanding that it was because she would be gone in europe

15:10for two weeks in january she told us that she would be coming back after the two-week vacation

15:15for the last two weeks in january and she would live with us the last two weeks her father took some

15:20boxes but she left her bed she left her dresser she left several boxes in her bedroom in addition to

15:25several things in the family room and the kitchen did you leave your bed no

15:29she i don't believe that there's a futon mattress whatever it is is that what you slept on yes okay

15:38just a second don't play with me

15:43so you left your bed did you leave a dresser no it was not my dresser the dresser was there when i moved

15:47in we had you been using it i had used it okay did you leave any boxes not to my knowledge you left she

15:55left three boxes in her bedroom in addition to a chair in the family room a microwave in the kitchen

16:02and miscellaneous items did she ever come back to get the chair in the microwave no she never took

16:06the chair of the microwave she had a cousin come the last week in january she moved the bed to the

16:11curb and she took some of the boxes with her and she tried to move every just a second did you know

16:17this cousin no we had never met her before a female yes what's your cousin's name that came to

16:22i didn't have a cousin come who came my friend jen jennifer came with your friend came with you and

16:29you moved out what i moved the mattress out and i gathered up my box my one box that i had discovered

16:37that she had moved into where did you find the box it was in that room in that room and what month

16:44did you move out the futon and the box it was january 16th then you owe her for the month of january

16:54cookie you don't leave your stuff which you did and expect somebody else to pay your rent if you in

17:04fact moved out because of problems that you were having then you moved out your father was there he

17:11was there with the car he takes all of your stuff and he moves out and you take your futon and you

17:15take your box and you take your microwave and you take your chair and you move out you don't play with

17:20me so you owe her 735 dollars which is rent on your share of the bills take care of your obligations

17:26that's all step out parties are excused you may step out that's case number 524 an account in the

17:33matter peters versus peters president sworn in judge you may be seated sir have a seat please

17:38yes mr peters the defendant is your former wife correct how long were you married

17:45six years i believe and you have a child yes one child yeah how old is your child 13 how long have

17:52you been divorced uh since 96 are you remarried yes ma'am are you remarried no ma'am according to your

17:59complaint mr peters you were being a nice guy and a good ex-husband and a good father at least with

18:06regard to this incident because mrs peters was moving she needed a place to stay because you had

18:11sold a house that had moved you called your former husband and told him about your situation he and

18:18his wife were going to be away they told you could come and stay in his house is that right they weren't

18:22away he was living out of the country living he wasn't there that's correct and he said until your new

18:29place is ready you can come and stay in my house that's correct with our son very nice of him is

18:35that right yes ma'am because mrs peters by the time this case is over you and i are going to know each

18:43other very well and i want you to disabuse yourself of any inclination not to tell me exactly what

18:52happened do you understand yes ma'am because there are certain things that make sense and there are

18:56certain things that don't make sense and if it doesn't make sense it's usually not true do we

19:01understand each other yes your honor good according to your complaint mr peters what was supposed to

19:06be a couple of weeks turned out to be a little bit longer than that but it was okay with you correct

19:12you were not home at the time but when you came home you found a substantial number of items missing

19:18from your house yes what items were missing from your house mr peters that were there when mrs peters

19:25and your son moved in the built-in dishwasher was missing dishwasher the stove was missing

19:32the built-in microwave cabinet was missing my bedroom so it was missing the vacuum cleaner was

19:38missing so we have a dishwasher stove microwave cabinet a bedroom set bedroom set consisting of

19:44bed and what just uh with a mattress and frame and and the bed itself so we're not talking about a

19:49bedroom so we're talking about a mattress correct okay anything else i had some heirlooms originally when

19:54we got divorced that she had and i wanted to stay within the family and a couple other times she

19:59had been at my house and saw the broiler and she wanted to take that so i let her use that then when

20:03i did go to her house to help her move things into storage you're getting you're getting away from me

20:09sir i'm saying all this was missing and she had sold it in a garage sale well my vacuum cleaner my broiler

20:17were there other things that were missing from the house or is that the list of things that was

20:21missing when you came home that's pretty much it yes ma'am where is things your honor we did not remove

20:27any of those things from the home i didn't ask you whether you removed them from the home i do not

20:31know where the items are really yes ma'am when you moved into his house was there a dishwasher there

20:37yes there was when you left his house was there a dishwasher there yes your honor there was

20:42when you moved into his house was there a stove yes your honor when you moved out of his house

20:46was there a stove? Yes, Your Honor. So I assume if I asked you all the rest of these questions

20:51about all the rest of the items, you would tell me they were there when you moved in

20:54and there when you moved out? That's correct. What date did you move out? December 10th.

20:59And what date did you come home? January 6th. And what did you do when you moved out? We took

21:05some of our possessions that we could. In fact, we did leave possessions in the home as well.

21:11My son's futon, a TV, some other items, because we did not have a moving truck to move that.

21:17Yes. And whether or not those items were still there or not, I'm not. They were there when

21:23we left as well. I took my son's clothes, their computer for school. When you came home, was

21:29there any evidence of a break-in? No, Your Honor. Front door locked? No, Your Honor. It was

21:34unlocked. It was unlocked. And you personally saw that? You were the one who entered your

21:39house first. Yes. What did the house look like when you came home? It was a disaster,

21:44Your Honor. There was about 200 piles of dog poop all over the house, urinated all over

21:48the carpets. Who has dogs? Dog food. She has a dog and a cat. She brought the dog with her

21:54to my house. My dog was with me, Your Honor, but it wasn't like that when we left. And he

21:59said there was dog food all over the kitchen. There was not when I left. Uh-huh. Who is this

22:05gentleman? This is her nephew. Does he have any information or is he just here for her? No,

22:10he's a witness, Your Honor. Oh, step up. Tell me your name. Mark Cherry. Mr. Cherry, what do you

22:16know about this furniture? She had told me to sell, if Shaq could sell the stove or whatever,

22:22the stove, the microwave, a couple weeks before she left and then three or four days before. Hold on

22:26a second. What do you mean she told you to sell? She said if she knew, I wanted to know if I knew

22:31anybody who wanted it, that stuff or wanted to buy a stove or microwave, stuff like that.

22:37Where were you when she told you that? In the house. You were over there visiting? Yeah. Any

22:42particular reason or was it just socializing? I was just over there to stop by. It's not like we

22:48don't talk. And she said, do you know anybody who wants to buy a dishwasher and a stove? Yeah,

22:52she's told me anything that anybody needed could sell it. And then three or four days before she left,

22:57it was like too late. She just told anybody, anybody want anything, they could take whatever they

22:59wanted. Who did she say that to? She told me that. Now I'm waiting to hear you. Your Honor,

23:05when Mr. Peters left, he told me if I could sell any of his items to get him the money to do that.

23:11He had sold the fridge. As you see in my statement, he was trying to get rid of these items. And yes,

23:17I did, but I did not sell anything. I did not give anything away. Did you tell anybody that they

23:22could come on over? I did not say it was a problem. I don't believe you. Okay. I don't believe you.

23:26You want to know why I don't believe you? Because he owes you money, according to you.

23:31That you put in your answer. You say, he owes me child support. And this was a really good way

23:36of being nasty. And that's what you did. You opened up the door and you said to your family,

23:42to your friends, whatever, if you want to pay, fine. If you don't, come and get it.

23:46That's really nasty. I'm not that way with him, Your Honor. Well, let us assume you didn't. But I

23:52believe you did. You're still responsible because the house was left in your care. And if the place

23:58was trashed, and it was trashed, according to him, and items were missing, missing on your watch.

24:05Either way, you're responsible. And the reason, by the way, Mrs. Peters, because I was going to say to

24:11you, because I read your papers. And it just didn't seem right to me. Here was a guy who says,

24:16I'm going to do a nice thing to my ex-wife. I'm not going to tell her to take my kid and go to a

24:21hotel to go someplace else. My house is empty. Come and use my house. It's okay. What? He's remarried.

24:28You're not. You're moving. He's not. He's in a house. You're not. I mean, all those things go through

24:34your mind. And I don't see any reason why your nephew would lie. Do you? No, Your Honor. I'm not

24:40saying he's lying. Oh, you're not saying he's lying. Well, he just said that you told everybody

24:44that they could come and take what they want. It's not in those exact words. No, Your Honor. Those were

24:47pretty much the exact words. It was an open house. Judge Judy will continue in a moment. And later today,

24:53Thomas Peters claims ex-wife Gloria Peters stole belongings from his home while he was on vacation.

24:59Thomas says she cleaned him out. You have photographs of this house? Do the house look?

25:06Yes, ma'am. I have before and after pictures, both. And the before picture is actually from a real

25:13estate company in September, and she moved in October. So, and left in the, those are the before, and these are the after.

25:20Well, before it was a nice house. Yes, ma'am. But the doors and the light fixtures and the house.

25:37You know, I could see the plumbing is gone. All the light fixtures are gone. Ceiling fans are gone.

25:42Carpets destroyed. The plumbing under the sink was gone when I got home.

25:46The front door to his bedroom is on my other aunt's house.

25:51Yes, I went over there and found my stuff in her sister's house.

25:55When I walked in, she was vacuuming with my vacuum.

25:58You're not a nice person, Mrs. Peters. Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount requested, $3,000. That's all.

26:03Why did I excuse? You may step out.

26:05I'm just happy it's over.

26:06I'm just glad this is all over with. It's been a long time coming.

26:09We've been in and out of court for the past 10 years.

26:11Just trying to get her to admit what she did was wrong.

26:13I did not take the items.

26:14I walked in and everything was gone.

26:16Tried to turn on the lights. There's no lights. There's no light fixtures. There's nothing.

26:20And now, the next case.

26:22All parties in the matter of Panaccio versus Arnie. Step forward, please.

26:2625-year-old personal trainer Joseph Panaccio is suing his ex-girlfriend, 24-year-old retail salesperson, Demesha Hardy, for an unpaid loan to pay rent.

26:37Mr. Panaccio, you claim a loan to the defendant in the amount of $1,000. According to your complaint, she paid you back $100. She owes you the rest.

26:46Correct.

26:46The defendant says she's paid you back part of it in cash. Part of it is from a sweater that she said a dog of yours destroyed. Is that right?

26:54Yes.

26:55When did you make this loan and why?

26:57I made this loan about December 15th.

27:01Of what year?

27:032002. I've known her for two years. I met her at a department store where she works.

27:09And basically, we've just been friends ever since.

27:12And what I did was she needed a favor for me to loan her the money, the $1,000. I'm a personal trainer, so a lot of times I get paid cash. So it's not unusual for me to have $1,000 to $1,500 in my house. So I paid her the money.

27:28What did she need the money for?

27:29Rent.

27:30Is that right? Yeah. Go ahead.

27:32Time kept passing and passing. After Christmas, I got a hold of her on the phone and she agreed to write up a statement saying that she paid me $100 out of the $1,000. She owed me $900 balance due by January 15th, 2003, which was never paid. And every time I talked to her...

27:53Can I see the note, please?

27:54Yes. Every time I call the defendant, she just keeps telling me to take her to court. She don't care.

28:03A whole lot of swearing and cuss words. I had no other choice but to take her to court.

28:10Where were you when she signed this?

28:12At her house.

28:13When was it signed?

28:14December 28th, I believe.

28:17Is that right?

28:18Yeah, that's about right. What was he doing at your house?

28:21He had stopped by my house like four or five times looking for me because we'd had a conversation. And he let me borrow the money on November 28th. That's when I got the money from him.

28:31And I told him that I was going to try and have it back to him by the 15th of December. But my new job, I didn't get paid. They were having some problems with the payroll.

28:39And I explained this to him. And I said, I'm really sorry. I'm not going to have the money for you. But I do have $100. And I gave him that before he went to Boston.

28:46So when he got back from Boston, which was after Christmas, he had stopped by my house and he had asked my neighbors where I was. And he was looking for me. And he was flipping out. Like, where have you been? I see all these boxes outside. I thought you were moving out. I thought you were skipping town on me, paying me back your money.

29:03So I said, you know, if it's going to make you feel better, I already offered to sign something for you. I will sign something that says I owe you this money. And that's when we did that.

29:12Okay. Now you say that you gave him back more than $100.

29:15Yes, I have.

29:16When?

29:16I paid him $200 in cash. She drove me to his house. And I gave him $200 in cash on December 31st, 2002.

29:25You forgot about that?

29:27No, I didn't forget about it. Her statements are false. That was never, never happened. She paid me $100 and that was it. If she paid me anything else than that, I would have written it up and done it the right way.

29:38After I paid him the $200, I called him the next day because I'd remembered about the note that I signed. And I said, look, Joe, you know, we should keep up with this and sign things.

29:49And he's like, oh, you know, I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to offend you by having you sign something. I threw that paper away. It's not like that. I was just nervous because you hadn't paid me any money.

29:59And it was supposed to be due on the 15th. And I said, fine, that's fine. But she was there. She saw me give him the money.

30:04And then. Tell me your name. Jamie Harris. What do you do, Miss Harris? I'm a waitress.

30:12How do you know the defendant? I'm her roommate. Tell me about what you saw on the 31st of December.

30:18I drove her over to Joe's house and I asked her where he's going to be. He walked outside.

30:25I pulled into the parking lot and he came out and leaned into my car window.

30:30So she handed him the money. I saw him count two hundred dollars in his hand.

30:35And then he asked us what we were doing later on that night, if what we were going to do for New Year's Eve,

30:40if we wanted to hang out and that he would call us later and that whenever she had any more money,

30:47whenever it wasn't a big deal, just give it to him as it comes.

30:51Her statements are false. And if I ever did call her, all she would do is swear and say, take me to court.

30:58I don't care. Take me to court. You know, that's all I ever got out of her.

31:02What other money did you give him?

31:03I think it was January 14th, whatever the Saturday was, two weeks after that day.

31:08I paid him another two hundred and fifty dollars. But I have school on Saturday.

31:12So I told him that he could come by my house and pick it up and either Jamie or my brother would be home.

31:18And he came over that day. He called me after he picked up the money and said, thanks, I got it from your brother.

31:24And I'll thanks. I'll have the other money. You know, just call me and let me know when you want to pay me some more money.

31:30And I said, fine, that's fine. I should be able to pay you within before the end of this month.

31:35And he said that that was fine. It's a totally false allegation.

31:38I would also like to admit into evidence. I have a message that she left on my cell phone that I had recorded.

31:45That says what? Just her swearing and telling, saying, you know, I owe you the money and take me to court.

31:53Give it to Bird because I can't hear from back there.

31:56Okay, what you want to do is you want to hit this play button two times.

32:00Two times.

32:01Correct.

32:10I have message Wednesday, January 29th, 764 p.m.

32:16So, I think that you're on track, but you must be insane.

32:20You just called me and I'm yelling like you're going to take me to court and it's all a time to be honest and talking.

32:27But most, and then you're going to call me back and tell me what you're doing tonight.

32:31Who cares?

32:32If you want to take me to court, then take me to court.

32:35I don't give a, I already told you that.

32:37Do what you have to do.

32:38But I'm not going to have you, like, ruining my night by calling me and yelling and talking to me because I don't need that.

32:44So, if you want to meet tomorrow and get your money, then that's fine.

32:50But don't be calling me and talking.

32:54Which never happened, Your Honor.

32:56I mean, she never paid me the money.

32:59I was at home when he came by and picked up the money, the $250 from her brother.

33:06And I was also there on many, many phone occasions when he called her yelling.

33:10There's no question that he did call her because she's calling you in response to you making a phone call to her, sir.

33:15Well, yeah, I kept calling her, but I would never get a response back.

33:18Okay.

33:19Now, even if I believe you, you still owe him $400.

33:23When we were dating, I was at his house and his dog ate my sweater and I told him that, you know, that's $200 sweater.

33:29You're going to need to replace that.

33:31And he said, he was laughing.

33:32He said, I'm sorry.

33:33I didn't mean for that to happen.

33:35Where did you put your sweater?

33:37He put it on the floor.

33:38Where were you?

33:39I was, we were sitting on the couch and he's like, here, let me put your sweater.

33:43I guess he meant to put it on the coffee table, but it fell on the floor.

33:46And then the dog ate it.

33:47Listen, madam.

33:48So, here's the sweater.

33:50Watch out for your own sweater.

33:52The dog wasn't hiding anywhere.

33:54The dog was out, right?

33:55No, but he agreed to pay for it.

33:57We had a verbal agreement.

33:58He said, I'm sorry, I'll replace it.

34:00Stop it.

34:01Stop it.

34:02Please.

34:04Mr. Panaccio, why would you, I want you to think very carefully.

34:09Why would you keep calling her about this money instead of just taking her to court?

34:15Well, I thought we could handle this case without having to go to court, you know, because then

34:20I would have to go down to the courthouse and file and now it's going to cost me money

34:23for court costs.

34:25When did you stop dating her, sir?

34:27Um, we never really dated.

34:29We were basically friends for a couple years, you know, good friends.

34:33And, uh...

34:34I'm not sure whether I believe that, sir.

34:36Okay.

34:37You're at her house.

34:38She's at your house.

34:39When did you stop being friends?

34:42Um, we stopped being friends maybe November 15th.

34:50That was before you gave her this money?

34:53Yeah, because we're still good friends, like I said.

34:56Ms. Hardy, you owe him $400.

34:59Pay him.

34:59Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $400.

35:02That's all.

35:02Parties are excused.

35:03You may step out.

35:04Amen.

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