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00:00This dog played with your dog?
00:02Mm-hmm.
00:04I didn't know the severity of what was going on.
00:07The puppy is deceased.
00:10You were told by the vet not to have your dog
00:14around other dogs.
00:15Do you understand that?
00:17Listen.
00:17No, you listen to me.
00:19I'm supposed to listen to him.
00:20Cut off his mic.
00:22This is Judy Justice.
00:30Michelle Ordonez is suing her former friends,
00:44Cooper Curry and Ethan Clausen,
00:46for the cost of a puppy, vet bills,
00:49and emotional distress.
00:51Court, come to order.
00:52All rise.
00:55You see it, please.
00:56Hello, Judge.
00:57Case number 1168,
00:58Ordonez versus Curry Clausen.
01:02You're welcome.
01:03Ordonez.
01:04Yes.
01:04You bought one dog from one of these gentlemen in 2019.
01:09Yes.
01:09From which gentlemen?
01:10I had actually bought it from both gentlemen,
01:13their business, BHB.
01:16They presented it to me as an entity,
01:19so I paid Ethan and Cooper.
01:21Just a sec.
01:22Your complaint says that in September 2019,
01:25I bought a puppy named Dolly from Ethan.
01:28Yes.
01:28Can we keep it simple and consistent
01:30with what you wrote here?
01:31It should have been BHB.
01:33Well, it's not BHB.
01:35BHB's a corporation that cannot appear in court
01:38without a lawyer.
01:39When they had sold me the dog,
01:41they had presented it as a real company.
01:44So I had-
01:45Can I see the paperwork?
01:47Yes.
01:47So when I received-
01:49Don't say anything.
01:50Can you just give me the paperwork?
01:51Can you just give me the paperwork?
01:59Do you have a copy of her contract?
02:02Yes, I do.
02:02I'd like to see it.
02:03They had withheld the papers, so I wasn't able to see anything.
02:17Just a sec.
02:19It was Michelle Montfort.
02:22It was my married name.
02:23I put an O on top for Ordonez, but when I paid her off,
02:28I should have been given the UKC papers, which I wasn't-
02:30Don't tell me shoulda watercutta.
02:31I don't care shoulda watercutta.
02:32I don't care shoulda watercutta.
02:33This says that you paid $2,000 for the dog-
02:37Yes.
02:38And 50%-
02:39Breeding rights.
02:40Breeding rights.
02:41Which meant that-
02:43Just not really germane to this case, but it means that if you breed the dog,
02:49that I assume that whoever is Ethan-
02:54Yes.
02:55That would be you.
02:56You have 50% breeding rights, which means that you get
03:00to breed the dog once and she does, or you get 50% of the litter.
03:04What does that mean?
03:05So it means I would split the stud fee with her, go half with it, and then I would get
03:11half of the litter.
03:12So let's say she had 10 puppies, I would get five and be able to sell them.
03:15Well, you have to make that clear.
03:17That's not what it-
03:18Okay.
03:19That's not what this means to me.
03:21With regard to Dolly, you still have Dolly.
03:24Yes, I do.
03:25Yes.
03:26You still have to get rid of your counterclaim because your counterclaim is for the return
03:30of a co-owned dog, right?
03:32Yes.
03:33You don't co-own this dog.
03:35This is not a co-ownership agreement, so that takes care of your counterclaim.
03:39There's nothing in this contract that suggests that you co-own the dog.
03:43Good.
03:44Now, Dolly is still alive.
03:45Yes.
03:46Gladly.
03:47This is...
03:48Your last name is?
03:49Curry.
03:50Curry.
03:51Are you partners?
03:52Yes.
03:53You also sold the plaintiff a second dog.
03:57Yes.
03:58That wasn't in 2019.
03:59That was in 2021.
04:01Yes.
04:02And you two became friends.
04:03We've been friends for a long time.
04:05How long?
04:06I want to say since I got Dolly maybe a couple months before that.
04:10So, 2019.
04:11Yes.
04:12That's a year and a half.
04:13I was approached by the defendant to buy a dog as a friend.
04:16You bought another dog?
04:18Yes.
04:19Good.
04:20Same breed.
04:21Same breed.
04:22And they're?
04:23From the same kennel.
04:24It's actually his long-term...
04:26Now, just tell me, what kind of dog is it?
04:28Oh, it's an XL Bully.
04:29American Bully.
04:30Is that a pit bull breed?
04:33It's a pit bull mixed with a Staffordshire Terrier.
04:36So, they're quite...
04:37They're probably about this tall.
04:39And they get up to about 160 males, probably like 170.
04:44Okay.
04:45And so, now, you have two.
04:47You have one that's two years old and you have a new puppy.
04:50Yes.
04:51You also...
04:52Well, the puppy is deceased.
04:54I know that.
04:55Yes.
04:56Yes.
04:57I know that the puppy is deceased.
04:58Well, that's what your case is about.
05:00Yes.
05:01You became friendly with Mr. Curry.
05:03Both of them, actually.
05:04Just try not to interrupt me again.
05:06Sorry.
05:07And you were moving.
05:08You were moving with whom?
05:10With my children and my husband at the time.
05:13How many children do you have?
05:15Two.
05:16Two sons.
05:17And you had a husband?
05:18Yes.
05:19And so, you were moving from where to where?
05:22So, we were moving, actually, into an apartment because our home was...
05:25Don't tell me, because you were moving from where to where?
05:29From my home to an apartment.
05:31Were you renting the home?
05:32At the time, yes, I was.
05:34What month and year were you moving?
05:36I moved in the beginning of August, the end of July.
05:41What date were you planning on moving?
05:43I was trying to move the first of August, but it so happened that I moved a little bit earlier.
05:49Was Mr. Curry supposed to move into your house?
05:52Yes.
05:53Is that the arrangement that you had made with him?
05:55Yes.
05:56And was he going to pay you rent?
05:57He was going to be paying partial rent, yes.
06:00How much rent?
06:02At the time, I think I told him $1,600.
06:05How much?
06:06She told me $1,800.
06:07I gave $900 upon my deposit and the next...
06:10When did you give her the $900 deposit?
06:12About a week or two prior to me moving in.
06:15There is no contract.
06:17On what date?
06:18There is no contract, it was just...
06:19I didn't say contract.
06:21I never used the word contract.
06:23Okay.
06:24You said deposit.
06:25Deposit, yes.
06:26On what date were you supposed to be moving in?
06:28I believe it was around the...
06:30Don't say I want believe.
06:3126th of July was around approximately.
06:34Upon getting there, she was still there and her kids.
06:37Now you also have one of these dogs?
06:39I have three.
06:40All the same breed?
06:41Yes, ma'am.
06:42All American bullies?
06:43Yes, ma'am.
06:44You got yourself and all three dogs?
06:47Two live with my mom and one live with me.
06:50So you had one?
06:51Yeah, at the time.
06:52That you were moving into the house with?
06:53At the time, yes.
06:54That's all I care about.
06:55What do I care about the rest of your life?
06:57I don't even care about this portion of your life, but it's my job.
07:01So you were moving into this house that she was vacating with one dog?
07:06Yes.
07:07That's an answer.
07:08Okay.
07:09I don't care how many cats or dogs or canaries your mother has.
07:12Well, I own them.
07:13I don't care.
07:14That was your question, Your Honor?
07:16I don't care.
07:17You had one dog that is relevant to this case that moved into her house.
07:22Correct.
07:23A sick dog.
07:24Now, what did I tell you?
07:26Sorry.
07:27It's getting towards the end of the day.
07:29I'm getting testy.
07:32Your family may care about you.
07:34I, on the other hand, have an idiot who was given specific instructions not to have their dog around other dogs,
07:42and you specifically didn't listen.
07:56Michelle Ordonez claims her friends, Cooper Curry and Ethan Clausen, owe for the cost of a puppy and vet bills.
08:04Now, the dog was sick.
08:07Uh, she had just been released from the vet, so she was no longer sick.
08:11Just a second.
08:12The dog's name is?
08:13Uh, Carmella.
08:14What was wrong with her?
08:16Uh, she had had parvo.
08:17When you say she had just been released from the vet, what was the name of the vet who cared for her?
08:24Animal Kingdom.
08:25Is that the regular vet?
08:27Yes, ma'am.
08:28How long was Carmella at the vet?
08:30Three days.
08:31Three days.
08:32When she left the vet after three days, she had been diagnosed with parvo.
08:37What were her symptoms?
08:39Um, she was just groggy and not very, uh, dog-like.
08:44I don't know how to explain it.
08:45She wasn't loving.
08:46She was just sickly.
08:47What was she like when you took her out of the vet?
08:49Um, the vet called me and...
08:51Don't tell me what the vet told you.
08:52To get her.
08:53Don't tell me what the vet told you.
08:56The dog was in prime condition to come home.
08:58The dog seemed fine.
09:00Yes.
09:01And if I called Animal Kingdom, you have that number?
09:04Yes, ma'am.
09:05They would tell me that the dog was released and had been tested and was free from parvo.
09:13Yes, Your Honor.
09:14Okay.
09:15Sarah, do this for me, please.
09:18Take that number, go in the robing room, call Animal Kingdom.
09:22Tell them that you're calling from Judge Judy Scheindlin.
09:27We're calling about Cooper Curry's dog, Carmella, that was released from Animal Kingdom end of July of this year.
09:37The dog had had parvo.
09:39Would you find out from the vet whether the dog was free from parvo when the dog was released from the vet?
09:46Sure.
09:47Would you do that? Thank you.
09:48If you have any problem with them, let me know.
09:56Mr. Curry was supposed to move in to your home and you were supposed to be out of your home.
10:01We were in the process of moving, yes.
10:03Mr. Curry came to your house with his dog.
10:06Did you have a conversation with him?
10:08He actually came unannounced and no, I did not have a conversation with him before he came.
10:13Did he ever discuss with you that his dog had had parvo?
10:17Look at me.
10:18No, he did not.
10:19Did you?
10:20Yes, I did, Your Honor.
10:21Yes, he did.
10:22I'm going to ask you again.
10:24Did he ever discuss with you that his dog had parvo?
10:29Make sure I get an answer.
10:31Right.
10:32No, he did not.
10:33Okay, so you have two of the same kind of dogs and you wouldn't have left your dog around a dog that looked sick.
10:42Never.
10:43That looked sick, correct?
10:44Correct.
10:45So his dog didn't look sick?
10:47No.
10:48Played with your dogs?
10:49Yes.
10:50I even asked him to watch the dog.
10:53I know that.
10:54Played with your dogs?
10:56Mm-hmm.
10:57Appeared healthy?
10:58Correct.
10:59And that was on what date?
11:01July what?
11:02I want to say from the 24th through the 25th.
11:06So you had a full day to see them interacting and to see how his dog was behaving.
11:11Correct.
11:12And then you left.
11:13And you left him with your two dogs.
11:15Yes.
11:16So you left him on the 25th with your two dogs.
11:19That was by arrangement.
11:20Yes, I asked him permission if I could leave with you.
11:22Leave the dogs.
11:23Fair.
11:24Where?
11:25And when did you come and get the dogs?
11:27The next day.
11:29Within the next day he had called me and said the dogs will not stop, excuse my language,
11:35and throwing up everywhere.
11:37So that's the 26th?
11:38Yes.
11:39So you came back the 26th?
11:41Correct.
11:42And I picked up both dogs.
11:43She didn't, your honor.
11:44When did she come back?
11:45Her baby daddy picked him up and it was about two or three days later.
11:48Her baby what?
11:49My baby's father.
11:50Her baby's father.
11:51He came and picked him up.
11:52My ex-husband.
11:53Okay.
11:54And she would not answer the phone for two or three days.
11:57So she didn't come the next day?
11:59No.
12:00And neither did anyone else?
12:01No.
12:02I had a housekeeper come and clean the house of all their throw up and poop while they were
12:06ignoring my calls.
12:07That's funny.
12:08I had a housekeeper.
12:09Okay, do you have any, do you have your phone with you which would show the messages?
12:14I actually got a new phone.
12:16Everybody gets a new phone when I ask them for proof.
12:18I got a new phone.
12:19My phone fell in the pool.
12:21It fell in the toilet.
12:22The dog ate the phone.
12:24My husband smashed the phone.
12:26My wife threw it out of the car.
12:29Whenever you came, the next day, the day after, did you come personally or did you send the
12:36father of your baby?
12:37So he was threatening me.
12:38Just to answer the question.
12:39The father of my child went to go pick up the dogs.
12:42Okay.
12:43And when you went to get the dogs, did you take them immediately to the vet?
12:48I took them the next day.
12:49Why did you take them that day?
12:51Because I didn't know the severity of what was going on.
12:54They looked groggy, but I didn't know exactly if they were sick or not.
12:58So I had set up the appointment for the next...
13:00Were both dogs fully inoculated?
13:04At first, they were just acting like themselves and then they just started deteriorating.
13:08Listen to my question.
13:10Were both dogs fully inoculated, vaccinated?
13:14Had they received all of their shots?
13:17They were.
13:18Both of them.
13:19You have proof from the vet from that?
13:20From the vet, yes.
13:21I have her vet records and her vet bill.
13:24Okay.
13:25Now I want to see the records of her inoculation.
13:27One that died.
13:28Now don't get me all those things.
13:30I asked you for a specific piece of paper.
13:33That's her or that's his vet records that I got from the vet.
13:40No, that's not what I asked you for.
13:43I asked you for her records of vaccination.
13:46That's the only records I had gotten.
13:48Then you don't have...
13:50The answer is that you don't have records of that puppy.
13:54That was the puppy that died.
13:55How old was the puppy?
13:56When he died, he was about 14 weeks.
14:00He was 14 weeks.
14:01Sarah?
14:02Yeah.
14:03Got a lot of information.
14:04Okay.
14:05So Carmela was diagnosed on 7-12-21 with not only parvo but intestinal parasites as well.
14:13And she had a hospital stay until approximately the 14th in hospital where she was treated and picked up.
14:21And then there was a revisit with a strict instruction to not be around any other dogs as it was still a highly contagious disease.
14:28She revisited on August 23rd for her second vaccine.
14:32August 23rd?
14:33Of 2021.
14:34That's his dog?
14:35Yes.
14:36August 23rd?
14:37For a revisit after the hospital stay where she received her second vaccine, which was a combo vaccine including for parvo.
14:44With again another instruction not to be around any other puppies or dogs and not to purchase any more puppies and dogs until she was revisited.
14:52But there was no negative test result when she left.
14:55No negative?
14:56She said there would not have been a negative test result but she left with the second dose of the vaccine and the strict instruction to not be around other dogs.
15:03Not to be around other dogs.
15:05Your Honor, I was homeless and she was allowing me to do that.
15:10I don't care whether you were homeless, hapless, sad, snowflake.
15:15I don't care.
15:16It's irrelevant to me.
15:18Do you understand?
15:19Yeah.
15:20Maybe.
15:21Maybe.
15:22Just a second.
15:23Hey.
15:24I'm going to throw your case out.
15:25Do you want me to do that?
15:27She wasn't supposed to be there.
15:29She was there, fool.
15:30She was not supposed to be there.
15:32Listen.
15:33No.
15:34You don't understand.
15:35She wasn't supposed to be there.
15:36I'm supposed to listen to him.
15:37I'm supposed to listen to him.
15:38Yeah.
15:39Cut off his mic.
15:51Michelle Ordonez has accused her former friend, Cooper Curry, of bringing his sick puppy into her home and giving her dogs a serious illness.
16:01Now, I don't know if you have family.
16:03Your family may care about you.
16:05I, on the other hand, do not.
16:07I, on the other hand, have an idiot who was given specific instructions not to have their dog around other dogs and you specifically didn't listen.
16:18And whether you're homeless or not, who gives a rat's behind?
16:22Well, I paid rent to move into her house and I was supposed to be moving in and she got there.
16:26I don't care if you move in.
16:27You're not going to give her dog Parvo.
16:29She wasn't supposed to be there.
16:31It doesn't matter.
16:32It does.
16:33She wasn't supposed to be there.
16:34She wasn't supposed to be there.
16:35She wasn't supposed to be there.
16:36She was there.
16:37Fool.
16:38She wasn't supposed to be.
16:39She was there, fool.
16:40She was not supposed to be there.
16:41She was there.
16:42Listen.
16:43No.
16:44You don't understand.
16:45You listen to me.
16:46She wasn't supposed to be there.
16:47I'm supposed to listen to him.
16:48I'm supposed to listen to him.
16:49Yeah.
16:50Cut off his mic.
16:51homeless, maybe a little high, maybe
16:53a little stupid. I'm not exactly sure
16:55which one. All three. Maybe all
16:57three. You were told by
16:59the vet not to have
17:01your dog around other
17:03dogs. Do you understand that?
17:05You understand that? Yes. And when
17:07you're told not to
17:09have your dog around other dogs, and
17:11you're supposed to be a dog lover, then
17:13whether she's there
17:15or not there, if she's there,
17:17she's got her dogs there,
17:19you're not supposed to take your
17:21dog near her dogs.
17:23That's what you were told.
17:25That it's a highly contagious
17:27disease. Don't
17:29take your dog near
17:31other dogs. That's what you were told.
17:33Can I see your vet bills, please?
17:35Do you have anything else to do with this case anymore? I already
17:37dismissed your counterclaim. You can sit down.
17:39So this is for
17:41each treatment for
17:43her dog? I just want to, I just
17:45want the total
17:47amount of your vet bills.
17:49How much did you pay
17:55him for that, for the dog that
17:57died? $3,000.
17:59It wasn't paid off either. How much
18:01did you actually pay him of
18:03the $3,000? Show me.
18:05There's, we did it cash exchange,
18:08but on here it says,
18:09I have a text message that says I paid for the dog.
18:11Okay. I'm looking.
18:15So is
18:15what you're telling me, the entire vet bill
18:17for both dogs was $303?
18:20No. That was
18:21for each treatment for
18:23each dog. You say
18:25for each dog. This doesn't say for each
18:27dog. If you call the vet.
18:29I'm not calling the vet. Your responsibility
18:31is to bring me proof.
18:34Right. This isn't proof.
18:35You're suing for vet bills. So far,
18:37the only vet bill I have is
18:39for $303.50.
18:42No, excuse me. It was
18:43$478.50.
18:45You paid $175.00.
18:47The balance is $303.00. Did you ever
18:49pay them?
18:51Uh, no.
18:51No. So you actually
18:54only paid $175.00.
18:56Now I'd like to see the text
18:58showing me that you paid him
18:59the $3,000 for the dog.
19:05I have her papers
19:07or his papers.
19:08Stop talking.
19:10I asked you for a specific
19:12thing. I said
19:13show me the text that you
19:15refer to when you say
19:18you paid him the $3,000
19:20for the dog.
19:21It's not specific
19:26on there, but he says that I
19:28own the dog.
19:28I can read.
19:30You said you had a text.
19:31I'm reading it.
19:32You paid for her as a pet
19:34and co-owned,
19:36but I'm primary owner
19:37on papers.
19:38Well, Ethan is
19:39technically, you're Ethan, right?
19:41Yes.
19:43So that's you who's writing this.
19:45No, it's Cooper actually
19:47writing that.
19:47I, yeah, I said.
19:50Mm-hmm. Yes.
19:51You're Ethan,
19:52so it's Cooper writing this.
19:54So.
19:54Sorry.
19:56Try to shut up.
19:57Yeah, you breached
19:58the contract.
19:59Laugh out loud.
19:59I've had my attorneys
20:00on this all day.
20:01You're attorneys.
20:02You're homeless.
20:03Unhapless.
20:04Okay.
20:05$3,000 plus $175.
20:07$3,175.
20:09I'm also demanding
20:10her papers
20:11because I had paid
20:12for her
20:13and I never received
20:14her papers.
20:14I'm not dealing
20:15with papers,
20:16first of all.
20:17You only need papers
20:18for a dog
20:18if you intend
20:19to breed her.
20:20Correct.
20:20Right?
20:21Yes.
20:22And you don't want
20:22anything further
20:23to do with him.
20:24Never.
20:25So I would have
20:25her neutered.
20:27Honestly,
20:27that was-
20:28That's a very good idea.
20:29That's what you say
20:30in here.
20:31She's a pet
20:31and I want to-
20:32So that's what I would do.
20:33So you don't need papers
20:34for her.
20:35That-
20:35$3,175.
20:37Judgment for the plaintiff.
20:39We're finished.
20:39Thank you very much.
20:41Court is adjourned.
20:42She knew my dog
20:44had parvo.
20:45She knew my dog
20:46wasn't supposed
20:46to be around dogs.
20:47She just lied
20:48to the judge about that.
20:49I would have never
20:50let him in my home
20:51if I knew he had parvo
20:52or the dog had parvo.
20:54By letting me
20:55come into a house
20:56with a sick dog
20:57and her knowing it,
20:59that's negligence
20:59on her part.
21:00You know,
21:00I opened my doors
21:01to him
21:02and he opened
21:03his parvo disease
21:05onto my animals.
21:06She never came through
21:07to get the dog.
21:08I don't know why
21:09she said one to two days
21:10because it was more
21:11like three to four.
21:12You know,
21:12justice is going
21:13to come either way.
21:14If it's not from me,
21:15it's from someone else.
21:17The vet was very helpful
21:18on the phone.
21:19I asked her
21:20if he took the dog
21:21discharged with
21:22a negative test
21:23and she said,
21:24well,
21:24that's not exactly
21:25how that works
21:26and explained to me
21:27how she gave
21:28strict instructions
21:29on both occasions
21:30that he brought in
21:31the dog
21:31to not have that dog
21:32be around any other dogs
21:34because it's highly contagious.
21:36And not only that,
21:36but also she said
21:37not to purchase
21:38any new dogs
21:39for him to acquire
21:41any more dogs
21:41due to the contagious
21:42nature of the disease.
21:44So, very helpful.
21:46You know, sometimes
21:47in the past
21:48I would have made
21:49that call myself.
21:50I have to tell you
21:51it was delightful
21:52for you to get
21:53that information
21:54and be able
21:55to convey it to me.
21:57And decisive, actually.
21:58Very decisive.
21:59You know,
22:00one would think
22:00if you're discharged
22:01from a vet's office
22:03that you're okay,
22:04but clearly not.
22:05Just discharged
22:06from the hospital stay
22:07that she was in.
22:08The dog was
22:09in the hospital?
22:10She said around
22:12two or three days,
22:13but that it was
22:14a fairly young dog
22:15so that she recovered
22:16quite quickly
22:17from her symptoms.
22:18However,
22:18that did not take away
22:19from the contagious nature
22:21of the disease.
22:22Sad.
22:23Well, one puppy died.
22:24If you can't take care
22:25of yourself,
22:26don't get a 160-pound dog.
22:28Good advice?
22:29Yeah.
22:29Are you a victim
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