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00:00Thank you all. Very nice to see you.
00:03Hello. Good evening.
00:05Hi. You're all very welcome to the show.
00:10You couldn't be more welcome to the show.
00:12Before we do another thing, just want to say huge congratulations
00:15to everyone involved in tonight's Children in Need.
00:18Well done then.
00:20Yeah. Another brilliant effort.
00:25And talking of brilliant, look who's singing for us tonight.
00:28It's Noah Khan. Yeah.
00:34And at this time on the show, Noah, very welcome.
00:39What are you going to be performing for us later?
00:41I'll be singing my song, The Great Divide.
00:43Well, we look forward to that. Very good.
00:46But first, who's joining us on the sofa tonight?
00:49He's one of the nation's favourite comedians.
00:52Starring with Steve Coogan in The Trip and playing Uncle Bryn
00:56in Gavin and Stacey.
00:57Now he's returning to the world of sitcoms in Bills Included.
01:00It's Rob Brydon!
01:04Yay!
01:06Looking lovely. Lovely.
01:08Beautiful. Beautiful.
01:09Beautiful.
01:11This triple Oscar nominee starred in The Truman Show,
01:16Love Actually and the hit crime drama Ozark.
01:18Now she brings us a story of friendship against the odds
01:21in Onwards and Sideways.
01:23It's the great Laura Linney!
01:30Hello.
01:31Hello.
01:32Good to see you all.
01:34Welcome, welcome, welcome.
01:35David Manning, everybody.
01:38He's given us some of TV's most memorable performances in Broadchurch,
01:44Doctor Who, and most recently the gripping prison drama Time.
01:47Now he's back causing more chaos as Lord Tony Battingham in Rivals.
01:53It's our good friend David Tennant!
01:56Yay!
01:59Well, great to see you!
02:01Woo!
02:05And can you believe it?
02:07We've got another triple Oscar nominee,
02:10who won a Tony for The Color Purple
02:13and defied gravity as Elphaba in the smash hit Wicked,
02:16now starring in the gripping courtroom drama Prima Facie.
02:20It's Cynthia Erivo!
02:24Hello!
02:25Nice to see you!
02:27Welcome, welcome!
02:28Hello, Erivo, everybody!
02:34The glamour, the excitement.
02:36Who knows who...
02:38Because, Cynthia, I know you're a fan of someone on the couch.
02:39Well, I'm a fan of all of them.
02:41Of course.
02:42Yes.
02:43So, that's...
02:44But I can't say I know them personally.
02:46Yeah.
02:46But this wonderful man sung to my face.
02:49Yes.
02:49When was that at the BAFTAs or something?
02:51I did.
02:51I did.
02:52I did the...
02:52Yeah.
02:56In front of her.
02:58I mean, the gall of it.
03:00I enjoyed it and I enjoyed it now.
03:01Thank you very much.
03:03Thank you for being so indulgent.
03:04Yes, yes.
03:05And, Laura, lovely.
03:06I don't know if you've spoken to Rob enough to know that he's got your favourite accent.
03:10Yes, he does.
03:11You like a Welsh accent?
03:12Well, you know, supposedly there is Welsh blood in me.
03:16Is that right?
03:16Way, way, way back.
03:17Yes, there's a place...
03:18There's Linney Medieval Village or something which is now just land.
03:23I didn't know that.
03:23I mean, there's nothing there.
03:24So, Linney is a Welsh name?
03:25I don't know if it's...
03:26We would pronounce it...
03:27That's what I've been told.
03:28Sidney.
03:29Sidney.
03:29Laura Sidney.
03:31Oh, yeah.
03:31Not really.
03:34You took that for real.
03:38Don't stomp on her dreams.
03:41She was delighted.
03:43And, uh, David Tennant, I love this.
03:45So, you are just back from America.
03:47Yes, upstate New York.
03:49You're filming.
03:49And, uh, you stumbled upon something very special.
03:53And I would have thought quite unexpected.
03:55Very unexpected.
03:56Yeah.
03:56So, I'm upstate New York.
03:57I'm in a little place called Beacon, which is a beautiful town.
04:00I know Beacon.
04:00Yeah.
04:02And I'm on a hotel on the Main Street, which is very nice.
04:05And I come out of my hotel and I turn right and I go about 10 feet,
04:11maybe 20, and there's a Doctor Who-themed restaurant.
04:16What are the chances?
04:17What is this?
04:19This is yourself.
04:20I mean, is it all kind of...
04:23I mean, those are extraordinary paintings of former Time Lords.
04:27It's called the Pandorica.
04:29Yeah.
04:29And, which is a reference to a Doctor Who story called The Pandorica Opens,
04:33obviously.
04:33Of course, yes.
04:34You don't need to tell me.
04:35Which is ironic because the Pandorica seems mostly to be closed.
04:39But every, a couple of days a week, it's the TARDIS door, literally,
04:45opens and you can go to the Pandorica.
04:48And you must have caused a sensation when you walked in.
04:52It was pretty deserted.
04:54LAUGHTER
04:57I avoided it for a while as I thought, this is quite unlikely and a bit weird.
05:02But eventually, I thought, I can't visit Beacon and not visit the Pandorica.
05:06Yeah.
05:07So eventually, it was open one day and I went in and there was an old couple sitting in
05:11a corner and a large screen with me fighting aliens from 2006, very loudly,
05:18layering out across the street.
05:20The couple didn't really seem to know what the reference was.
05:23They were just having some soup.
05:25LAUGHTER
05:27But it was a little surreal.
05:29And yes, there's those paintings on the wall, there's a row of crocheted dolls
05:33down one wall representing each version of the Doctor.
05:36Yeah.
05:37And it was deserted.
05:38And then eventually, this lady comes from the back.
05:40It turns out it's a one-man band, this restaurant.
05:43Oh, yes.
05:44And she comes out and she just,
05:45yeah, sit down, I'll come to you in a second.
05:47She's a little flustered because of the soup.
05:50LAUGHTER
05:51Two tables.
05:53LAUGHTER
05:53And eventually, she clocks me.
05:56And she was delightful.
05:58She's called Shirley.
05:59Yes.
06:00And she's a big Doctor Who fan, unsurprisingly.
06:04LAUGHTER
06:04And she opened a theme restaurant for a British sci-fi series
06:07in upstate New York.
06:09Yeah.
06:09Well, it's on her.
06:10And now, we checked it out and we found the website for the restaurant.
06:14Yeah.
06:14And, well, the arrival of David Tennant did cause quite a sensation.
06:17They've posted a big picture of you and Shirley.
06:20Yes, she is.
06:21Yes, she is.
06:26And you know what I mean?
06:27And you're kind of made up for her because, you know,
06:29if she's struggling and everything, like, David Tennant eating there,
06:31how great is that for business?
06:33They closed for good on Monday.
06:36LAUGHTER
06:38No.
06:39Are you being serious?
06:40No.
06:40No, listen.
06:41They really did.
06:42No.
06:42Are you being serious?
06:43He was only there at the end of last month.
06:46Listen.
06:47Daddy bitch!
06:48Listen.
06:48You did!
06:50I can reveal I know why they've closed.
06:53Oh, really?
06:54Yes.
06:54Do you not know this?
06:55No.
06:55It's because she's relocating to the UK!
06:58Oh!
06:59Yeah!
07:02Come on, Shirley!
07:04Yes!
07:04Oh!
07:05The Pandorica will reopen.
07:08All will be well.
07:09What will you be there at the opening?
07:10I've got to be now, haven't I?
07:12Yeah, that's right.
07:12You have to talk yourself into that.
07:13I might have to cut a ribbon or something, yeah.
07:15I always wonder about the moment when the idea came to her.
07:18Yeah.
07:19I know what I'll do.
07:20Yeah.
07:20I'm going to make this restaurant.
07:22In...
07:23Oh, and you know...
07:23In Beacon.
07:24In Beacon.
07:25Yeah.
07:25About, you know...
07:26I thought there'd be more puns in the menu.
07:30It wasn't that...
07:31I thought there'd be, like, eggs-terminate or something.
07:33You know, it'd be something.
07:35Yeah, there's a bit of that.
07:36And there's a lot of tea.
07:37There's a lot of different types of tea you can get.
07:39Yeah, yeah.
07:40And all...
07:41Exactly.
07:42Americans just see tea when they hear British.
07:45Just think tea.
07:46That's it.
07:46Well, good luck to Shirley when she...
07:48Exactly.
07:48Good luck to Shirley.
07:49Come on.
07:49Yeah, come on, Shirley.
07:51Yeah.
07:53Yeah.
07:54Listen, let's get started tonight with the new film from Cynthia Erivo.
07:58She stars in Prima Facie.
08:01It opened today in cinemas nationwide.
08:04And before we talk about it, here is a taste of the trailer.
08:07APPLAUSE
08:12You are extraordinary in the storm.
08:15And clearly, the current news cycle, it couldn't be more timely.
08:19So, just talk us through your character and some of the story.
08:23Yes.
08:23Tessa Ensler is a barrister who ends up taking a lot of sexual assault cases.
08:31And usually she's very good at them.
08:32She wins them often.
08:34And then she finds herself in a situation where she has had a terrible situation on her own hands.
08:40And she ends up being the victim of a terrible sexual assault case.
08:43And essentially, the story is about not just the case because you know what happens, you see it, but how
08:51the law is the interplay between how it gets sold or how it gets put up in court.
09:01Yeah, and how the law treats women.
09:04Yeah.
09:04When it comes to consent, when it comes to how we remember things, the way we're expected to remember things
09:10when we're standing up on the stand.
09:12And I'm already thinking, it's real then, because Susie Miller, she was a barrister herself?
09:17Yes, she was, yeah.
09:18Okay.
09:18She's brilliant.
09:20She wrote the screenplay.
09:20Sorry, I forgot.
09:21Yeah, she's the writer.
09:22She wrote the screenplay, and it comes from her play.
09:26It was originally a one-woman play, and then she wrote the screenplay.
09:30And I think she wrote the screenplay before she wrote the play.
09:34Oh, is that interesting?
09:35But she's just a brilliant brain who is determined to help change the law when it comes to sexual assault.
09:44And the play that Susie wrote, obviously, that was a big hit in the West End at Broadway.
09:49Yes.
09:49Sorry, Jodie Comer.
09:50You didn't see that, did you?
09:51I did, no.
09:52But did you talk to Jodie?
09:53We did, yes.
09:54Randomly, we sort of ended up at the same event together, and so we just chatted about it and what
09:59it does, what it can do, what it means, how much it takes from the player,
10:04and how much it also gives, yeah.
10:06Yeah.
10:07And oddly, so Jodie did the one-person play, but you've just finished a kind of marathon one-person play
10:15where you were playing Dracula,
10:17where you were playing everything in Dracula.
10:19Yeah.
10:19Oh, there she is.
10:20Oh, yeah.
10:21There you go.
10:21There you are.
10:23Because we spoke to you before you actually started.
10:26How was it?
10:27I think I described it like, what did I say it was?
10:32It was like the extreme form of crack.
10:36You know, extreme crack, Laura.
10:38Yeah.
10:38Yeah, you know.
10:39The really extreme stuff.
10:41Yeah.
10:41That's what it felt like.
10:43That's what it felt like.
10:43It was insane every single day.
10:45I think I was terrified most of the time getting on stage, and then I was also like going through
10:50a rush of being able to play these different roles.
10:53I think my mind was completely fractured by the end of it.
10:57So it was a little bit nuts.
11:00But here's the thing.
11:01You talk about little bit nuts.
11:02In the middle of the run, right, you're doing this exhausting one-person show, you ran a marathon.
11:09Yes.
11:10Yes.
11:11Wow.
11:14That's fun.
11:16So were you training for the marathon while you were doing the show?
11:19Yes.
11:20Wow.
11:20It was helpful.
11:22It was helpful.
11:23It did.
11:24It really helped.
11:24It helped me sort of like focus.
11:26So when I was off stage, it was another way of getting back into my body.
11:31And so it was the thing I would do every morning before I got ready.
11:35Wow.
11:35And I bet vocally it was helpful.
11:36Yeah.
11:36I would rehearse the lines.
11:38I would rehearse my...
11:39But also, can I just say, you didn't just run a marathon.
11:42You did it in three hours, 21 minutes.
11:44Sorry.
11:44I mean...
11:49That's amazing.
11:51Yeah.
11:52Please tell us you were a little tired the next night when you did the show.
11:56I was, but I think I was still running on adrenaline.
11:59OK.
11:59I went back to the show the next night and everything was hurting.
12:03But you sort of go, well, that's what's going to happen.
12:06And you just figure out how to move through it.
12:09About two nights after the adrenaline wore off and I was definitely feeling it.
12:13But it was a rush.
12:15Yeah.
12:15I loved it.
12:16Yeah.
12:16Because weirdly, Laura, I think it was the first time you came on the show.
12:19You were here to promote a one-woman play you were doing in...
12:22Yes.
12:22My name is Lucy Barton.
12:23Yeah.
12:23And you were very much looking forward to it.
12:25But I've heard you talk about it since.
12:27Yes.
12:27I was terrified.
12:28I was terrified every night.
12:31And it was an hour and a half of me talking.
12:33And I would have a moment, like 45 minutes in, where I'd be like, oh, shut up.
12:40Stop talking, stop talking, stop talking.
12:42And I got sick every night.
12:45I had a red bucket.
12:46No.
12:46And I would throw up every night.
12:49My God.
12:49Yeah.
12:50It's a very interesting thing because most of the time when you do a play, eight shows
12:53a week, you get into a rhythm and it takes on a life of its own.
12:56But a one-person thing is really something.
13:01I thought that was like, I thought I was insane because I was like, why is this not getting
13:05easier?
13:06No, it doesn't get easier.
13:07Every night.
13:07And some nights it would be harder.
13:09Yes.
13:09But it's a remarkable thing to be able to do.
13:12I mean, it's a real, it's a real gift.
13:14But do you just miss people to hang out, like do you just miss people kind of hanging out?
13:18Yeah.
13:18It's all lonely.
13:19You just sort of go, you go to the dressing room, say hello to the stage manager.
13:23That's what, that's what stand-up comedy is like.
13:25Yeah, of course.
13:26You get to an age and you, you, you just tire of the loneliness of it.
13:31You come off the stage and then you're back at the hotel and even if it's a nice hotel,
13:35you're still there.
13:36Yeah, yeah.
13:36You, because you've done a one match however you do.
13:38I've done, I did two performances.
13:41Derek Jarman's.
13:42Wow, quitter.
13:42I know.
13:44I know.
13:45Derek Jarman's blue, which is just a sort of, a kind of poem really.
13:49Yeah.
13:50Done as a stage play.
13:52And I, I find it terrifying too.
13:54And in the dress rehearsal, I dried stone dead and completely forgot where I was.
13:58Oh.
13:59Which meant that the rest of the experience was pretty unpleasant.
14:02Pretty sort of.
14:02It was quite white knuckle.
14:04But yeah, that was the thing I found.
14:05You would, you would come off and you'd just sit and look at yourself.
14:08Yeah.
14:10There was nobody to go, oh.
14:11It was rubbish tonight, wasn't it?
14:13Yeah.
14:13All the sort of, all the camp camaraderie.
14:16Rob, you just had an amazing experience in the West End, giving Herod in Jesus Christ Superstar.
14:22Oh.
14:22I did.
14:22I was one of the Herod.
14:23Yeah.
14:24Go on.
14:24Look at that.
14:25Yeah.
14:26Yeah.
14:26I don't, I don't think they all saw me doing it, by the way.
14:29I think that applause is for Jesus Christ Superstar.
14:32Um, I, most incredible experience.
14:36One week, which is lovely, because you never get tired.
14:39One song, great.
14:41I'd never seen Jesus Christ Superstar.
14:44I was very aware of it.
14:46I went on the Thursday night before I start on the Monday.
14:49I watched the show.
14:51I'm blown away.
14:52It's such a great production.
14:54It really is, yeah.
14:55I know you've seen it, right?
14:57Yeah, yeah.
14:57The next night, Glenn Close was sitting here, and she was telling you that she's doing it
15:01in January.
15:02The next day, the Friday, I go, and this is going to be my rehearsal, the Friday afternoon.
15:08I've learnt the song, but there are quite a few moves.
15:12And you've got to be, and I'm, I'm going, I'm not going to remember this.
15:16By Monday, I'm cramming it in.
15:19I'm singing it again and again.
15:21I'm thinking, oh, my voice.
15:22I look in the stalls.
15:24It's an empty theatre.
15:26But who's that in the stalls?
15:28It's Glenn Close.
15:31She's come in just to have a little look.
15:34She sat there in a big coat with a couple of friends as I'm stumbling around.
15:40And, oh, it was terrifying.
15:43But then when you get to do it, it's the best thing, because the show's so good,
15:49it's a great song, and you go back out at the end for the curtain call,
15:53which you have earned about that much off.
15:57It was, oh, I would do it again in a shot.
16:00Listen, very quickly, Cynthia, you are also in a new fantasy adventure
16:04called Children of Blood and Bone.
16:07Yes.
16:08What's that about?
16:09It's taken from a book, Children of Blood and Bone,
16:11and it's set in Orisha.
16:15It's about, I guess, I feel like it's kind of about love,
16:19and it's about the reclamation of magic within this place.
16:26And the character I play, Kaya, is essentially a villain, but I love her.
16:32She's complicated.
16:34But there are a group of people called the Magi who have lost magic,
16:39and this is sort of them discovering their magic again.
16:43She is in another section of people who want magic to be gone forever,
16:48so they're sort of in battle.
16:51In battle.
16:51Well, that'll be out on January the 22nd,
16:54and don't forget, Prima Face is in cinemas right now.
16:58Cynthia Erivo, everybody!
17:00Thank you very much!
17:04And the best of news, everyone.
17:08David Tennant is back as Lord Tony Battingham
17:11in the new series of Rivals.
17:14I just love Rivals. You're so good at it.
17:17And it all kicked off on Wednesday.
17:19It's back on Disney.
17:21So if people don't know anything about Rivals,
17:23who is Lord Tony?
17:25He's a c***.
17:27LAUGHTER
17:33No, he's not.
17:34No.
17:35No.
17:36No, no, no.
17:37He's misunderstood.
17:38He's misunderstood.
17:40If you enjoy that, you won't be seeing it again.
17:44LAUGHTER
17:45He's...
17:46HE LAUGHS
17:50He's a...
17:50He's a little precious flower.
17:54He runs Carinium Television.
17:57Yeah.
17:57In the 80s.
17:58He's...
17:59Yeah, he's slightly monstrous.
18:03He's power-hungry.
18:05He's pretty ruthless.
18:08But he's not...
18:09And he's not quite from the right level of society.
18:12And that doesn't half annoy him.
18:15Yeah.
18:15He can't quite break through the glass ceiling of aristocracy.
18:19So he's got all the money, he's got all the power,
18:23but he'll never be one of the...
18:24So this is the second half of the second season.
18:28Yes.
18:28So the first half of the second season ended with your wife dying.
18:34Yes.
18:34Yeah.
18:34So this picks up the story there.
18:36Yes.
18:37So he's been married to Monica for many years.
18:40She's absolutely his rock, his anchor, his moral compass.
18:43And this is a man who needs a moral compass.
18:45He's not behaved particularly well to her.
18:47Yeah.
18:47But he's absolutely needed her and relied on her.
18:50And then in the storms of 87,
18:54she suffers a terrible car accident and she's gone.
18:57And suddenly this man is untethered and not in a great place.
19:02Yeah.
19:03We've got a clip.
19:03This is you as Lord Tony,
19:05having an out with Alex Hassel and Aidan Turner.
19:15And you do such a great job.
19:17They really kind of lean into the 1980s.
19:20Yeah.
19:21With a fantastic soundtrack.
19:23Yes.
19:23Did it bring kind of the 80s flooding back to you?
19:26Well, yeah.
19:27I mean, my 80s were in Paisley.
19:29They were a little bit remote from the world of champagne
19:32and shoulder pads, if I'm absolutely honest.
19:34But, yeah, no, I remember it.
19:36I remember the Wall Street and, you know,
19:38the greed is good and Thatcherism.
19:40It was all there.
19:42Not where I lived, but you were aware of it, you know.
19:45And obviously, David, you're very busy
19:47and you get offered lots of work.
19:48And am I right that at one stage you were so busy
19:53you created an imaginary assistant?
19:55Is this true?
19:57Oh, well, yeah.
20:00I mean, it was basically an email address.
20:03But I'm not very good at saying no to people.
20:06I'm a bit conflict-averse.
20:08And people ask you to do things.
20:10And if you don't have time where, you know,
20:12sometimes it's a bit like...
20:13You just don't want to.
20:14Or you just don't want to.
20:15Or you become the crusher of dreams.
20:17And then you see the look on someone's face when you say no
20:20and you realise like, oh, God, they've gone to their room
20:24and they're crying now.
20:25And it's brutal.
20:26Well, yes.
20:27I find that uncomfortable making.
20:29But still clearly not enough to do all the things
20:31that people want me to do.
20:32So I did...
20:33I hid behind a personal assistant who didn't really exist.
20:37Now, what was her name?
20:39Melissa Von Stressel.
20:41LAUGHTER
20:43I think they would have seen through it.
20:45Yeah.
20:46Yeah.
20:48Where did you get the name from?
20:50I just...
20:51I clearly was reaching for something as preposterous as possible.
20:54I think I was trying to be...
20:55I felt guilty about the fact that I was creating this fabrication.
20:59She's your alter ego, isn't she?
21:00Yes, clearly, yes.
21:01She belongs in you.
21:03She's in here somewhere.
21:04You reached for a cookbook and found the name.
21:06Yeah.
21:06Can I just say, Rob was interested there.
21:08Yes.
21:08Because Rob will see your personal assistant and raise you.
21:12I'll give you an agent.
21:14I was a radio presenter in Wales
21:15and a TV presenter in Wales.
21:18And I would get asked to go and do things.
21:20And I didn't really have an agent at that time.
21:22So I invented a guy called Richard Knight.
21:25LAUGHTER
21:26And he would phone the organisers and I once...
21:30I had to go...
21:31It was some kind of fundraising evening.
21:34I'm terribly embarrassed.
21:35And I managed to get a fee for it.
21:38LAUGHTER
21:38I know.
21:39How are you embarrassed about getting a fee for it?
21:40Well, it was a fundraising.
21:42You know, they were all there for the good of their hearts.
21:45LAUGHTER
21:46I would be on the phone.
21:47Is that Mr Knight?
21:49I go, this is Richard Knight here.
21:50When did you want Rob for?
21:52Well, we wondered if you could come down on the Saturday the 14th.
21:55Yeah, he'll be there.
21:56No, listen.
21:57The guy is an angel, but I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask,
22:01are we going to see a little bit of Josh for this?
22:04LAUGHTER
22:05And then I would go to these events and they'd say,
22:08oh, I spoke to Mr Knight, he's quite a character.
22:12LAUGHTER
22:12I'd say more than you realise.
22:15LAUGHTER
22:16And, David, just going back to Rivals,
22:20this second half of season two is sort of bittersweet
22:23because this is when we all said farewell to the great Dame Jilly Cooper.
22:28Indeed, yeah.
22:29And, yes.
22:30And she was properly a part of the show.
22:33Absolutely.
22:34Oh, she would sit in the script room
22:36and she was involved in storylining
22:37and she would visit us on set regularly
22:40and she would throw parties at her house
22:43and she was everything you would hope that she would be.
22:46She was sort of glamorous and very mischievous.
22:50She would whisper terrible things in your ear.
22:53LAUGHTER
22:53And she was as thrilled with it as we were by getting to know her.
22:59I mean, it was...
23:00I think she gloried in the fact that people
23:04had rediscovered these stories.
23:06And how great, at that end of her life,
23:08suddenly to be...
23:09Vindicated, absolutely.
23:10This glorious final act.
23:12I mean, she still left us far too soon,
23:16but I feel very, very proud to have got to know her.
23:19And at her memorial, they served champagne in the church,
23:22which...
23:23Woo-hoo!
23:23Absolutely.
23:25Well, you can see David Tennant
23:27in the second half of season two of Rivals
23:29on Disney Plus now.
23:31There you go.
23:33Now...
23:37Meanwhile, Laura Linney brings us a very special film.
23:41It's called Onwards and Sideways
23:43in cinemas now on BBC One and iPlayer this Christmas.
23:47So, like, this is just a gorgeous, gorgeous film.
23:50Thanks.
23:50It's funny, it's heartbreaking.
23:52What can you tell us about it?
23:53It's about two people who meet in a hospital waiting area,
23:59and they've both been diagnosed with Parkinson's
24:01on the same day in the same place.
24:03And it follows their relationship over five years.
24:06So I was lucky enough to work with the great Rhys Evans,
24:09who was spectacular in this movie.
24:12And even though the context of the story takes place
24:15within the Parkinson's world, it's a very funny movie.
24:18Yeah.
24:19Our writer, Paul Mayhew Archer,
24:22who was the writer of Vicar of Dibley,
24:23has had Parkinson's for 17 years.
24:25And so he always jokes
24:28that it's the one thing he's never had to research,
24:30was doing when writing this movie.
24:31So it comes from really his unbelievably positive outlook
24:37on life and, you know, the joy of people
24:41leaning on each other.
24:42And it's just, I'm so proud of this one.
24:44I really am.
24:45Well, just to give us a sense of the film,
24:47let's talk about the tone of the film.
24:49Here's a bit of the trailer.
24:51APPLAUSE
24:55And when she said that was Paul Mayhew Archer,
24:57you saw him...
24:59Yes, when he says,
25:00run, Tony, it's your only hope, that's Paul.
25:02Yeah, yeah.
25:02Am I right in thinking that you and Rhys,
25:05you're the only performers portraying Parkinson's
25:08that aren't people living with Parkinson's?
25:10Correct, we are.
25:10And it's only because the movie, you know,
25:13travels over time that it wasn't possible
25:15to have people with Parkinson's do it.
25:18Yeah.
25:18So we were, you know, the people,
25:19everybody was wonderful.
25:20But what was that?
25:21That must be so intimidating.
25:22It was.
25:23To be pretending.
25:24No, no, it really, and it was the type of thing
25:25where I think Rhys and I both were so excited
25:27to do the movie and then we showed up to do it
25:29and then you realize what you're actually facing
25:32and that you really...
25:33This is not easy and we really had to jump in
25:36and really had to commit and try and...
25:38So there's the Parkinson's aspect of the movie
25:40and then there's the narrative of the film
25:43and about these two people who intersect
25:45and come together.
25:46So...
25:47And sometimes the Parkinson's would be
25:49against the rhythm of the life scene,
25:52so you'd have to sort of readjust
25:54and figure out how to play it all.
25:56So it was a wonderful experience.
25:58But it's really funny.
25:59Yeah, no, it properly is.
26:01I mean, clearly there are heartbreaking bits
26:03to this film too.
26:04But it is properly full of jokes.
26:06And Rhys is a, you know,
26:08is that the first thing you've done with him?
26:10Yeah, it is.
26:10He's a glorious actor.
26:11Did you ever see him playing Scrooge
26:14at the Old Vic in A Christmas Carol?
26:16No.
26:17Oh, he was so good.
26:18I went to see him in that with Tom Jones.
26:21Well, now.
26:22Oh, yeah.
26:23I've heard about this.
26:24I was...
26:25Yeah.
26:25I happened...
26:26I ran into Tom Jones, like you do,
26:28and he said,
26:29you know, Rhys Evans,
26:31he's doing A Christmas Carol.
26:38At the Old Vic.
26:40Exactly.
26:41Shall we go?
26:42So I thought, well, yeah.
26:44So I go to the theatre with Tom Jones.
26:48And I'm sat there,
26:50and Rhys was fantastic.
26:52And everybody's going,
26:52there's Tom Jones.
26:53And we went back afterwards to see Rhys.
26:56And I think Rhys had an uncle and aunt in that night as well.
26:59So we get taken around to the side of the stage.
27:01We meet the uncle and aunt.
27:02Hello, hello, hello.
27:03We go back into the dressing room.
27:05It's all very nice.
27:06Da-da-da.
27:06And we go away.
27:07And Rhys told me a few days later
27:09that his uncle said to him after he'd gone,
27:11he said,
27:11hey, that one bloke was a spitting image of Tom Jones.
27:20But Rhys, Rhys is spectacular.
27:23He is.
27:23He's one of our best actors.
27:25I mean, it's...
27:25He's got beautiful warmth, compassion,
27:27and danger in him as well.
27:28And skill.
27:29I mean, unbelievable, luxurious skill.
27:31He's fantastic.
27:32He's wonderful.
27:32He's great.
27:33Well, listen, you guys have made a beautiful film.
27:35And it deserves great success.
27:50Now, talking of happy things, Rob Brydon is back in sitcom land.
27:55His new show is called...
27:57Yeah, I know.
27:57Ooh.
27:58Back in sitcom land.
28:00His new show is called Bill's Included.
28:03It's available from Friday the 20th of November on BBC One and iPlayer.
28:08So, I'm guessing you play Bill.
28:10I do, yes.
28:11Yes.
28:12So, who is Bill?
28:14What is the situation?
28:15What is the comedy?
28:16Bill is Bill Beam, and within two minutes of the first episode, he comes home.
28:20He finds his wife in bed with the gardener.
28:22She leaves him.
28:24He's lonely.
28:25What's he going to do?
28:26He's a nice guy.
28:27He's an upbeat guy.
28:28Yeah.
28:28He picks up his paper.
28:29He sees that there's been a fire at the halls of residence at the university.
28:34He has a thought.
28:35I will rent rooms to students.
28:37He gets four very different students and tries desperately to be their friend.
28:44It's a properly funny sitcom.
28:47Oh, Graham, thank you.
28:48Yeah.
28:48No, it really is.
28:50It's such a pleasure to watch.
28:51We've got a clip from Bill's Included.
28:54This is you with one of your new housemates, and they're helping you get back on the dating
29:00scene post-wife.
29:09It seems like it was very much written for you.
29:13It was, yes.
29:14Because I'm not that in my big bottom boots either.
29:18Was Bill ever more of a stretch?
29:21Yeah, well, it came about because, do you remember Steve Coogan?
29:26He was very big in the 90s.
29:29I'll Google him later.
29:30Yeah, look him up.
29:32Look him up.
29:32And he said, why are you not doing character comedy?
29:37You should be doing game shows, character comedy.
29:39And I thought, yeah, I've not done it for ages.
29:41So I did a series for Steve for his company years ago called Human Remains, where I played
29:45different characters.
29:46And there was one in that, his name was Gordon, and he spoke like that.
29:49I thought I'd love to do him again.
29:51I thought, well, he could be the landlord.
29:52So we shot a little taster, very hand-held, very natural light.
29:58I had a wig and I had scrappier clothes and a spout like that.
30:03And it was kind of similar.
30:05We watched it back.
30:07I was so creepy.
30:09It was...
30:10I didn't mean to be.
30:12I didn't think I was.
30:13So we had a rethink about it.
30:15We changed some things and we decided we want to make something much more accessible,
30:21inclusive, that played more to me.
30:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:24And listen, you mentioned Steve Coogan.
30:26You are back together again.
30:28Yes.
30:28We are.
30:28There's a new series of The Trip.
30:30Oh, very good.
30:31Very good.
30:36Because I'm sure one or both of you have been on the show saying you were never going
30:41to do it again.
30:42So how did it happen?
30:43Well, that's after spending four weeks with each other, yes.
30:46Well, six years went by.
30:47I thought we'd finished with The Trip to Greece.
30:50And then it's Michael Winterbottom, it's his baby, and then he comes back and
30:53it's always appealing because it's a unique way of working.
30:57You shoot in sequence.
30:58It's a very small crew.
31:01You travel around to the places.
31:04And the two of us have loads of room to improvise, which is so rewarding.
31:11And he is as good as it gets.
31:14So it's like playing tennis with a great tennis play.
31:17It raises your own game.
31:18Yeah.
31:19And also, Scandinavia is very different.
31:22You know, we'd been to Mediterranean places.
31:25This has a different feel, a different landscape.
31:28It's a nice development, I think.
31:31I did a movie with Steve Coogan called The Dinner.
31:34I am sorry.
31:35Well, you did the one that hit you and Richard Gere.
31:37Yes, yes.
31:37And he's a wonderful actor.
31:39Richard Gere is.
31:40I mean, I've seen him.
31:42He works so hard.
31:44He really is.
31:44Not just Pretty Woman.
31:45I mean, he's done so many.
31:47I've got an officer and a gentleman I've got very good in.
31:51You've had...
31:51Steve is a very good actor.
31:53Yes, he is.
31:55Yeah.
31:55There you go.
31:57No, I know he did that.
31:58He did the thing.
31:59Well, he does an impression of Richard Gere in one of the trips.
32:02And he told me, he came up to me and he said,
32:05I've seen you do the impression.
32:07And he was, didn't he hit him or something?
32:10Or did Steve make that up?
32:11No, no, no.
32:11They had a big fight sequence at the end.
32:13Yeah.
32:13And I think he gave him a big whack for the impression.
32:16Yeah, he did.
32:16Oh, wow.
32:17Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:18Why does that give you so much joy?
32:21I don't know.
32:21It just does.
32:24And is the thing behind this one that you're going to see the Northern Lights?
32:28Yes.
32:29And do you?
32:29No.
32:31We don't see them in the show.
32:34And we didn't see them in real life.
32:36But the reason we didn't see them in real life was very age-related.
32:39Because each day, the crew would say,
32:42Boys, tonight the Northern Lights are going to be out.
32:4512.30, 12.45 tonight.
32:48Well, forget that.
32:50I will be asleep.
32:52Neither of us were willing to interrupt our sleep.
32:55Seriously.
32:56Because you're going to be improvising, you need to be, you know, on your toes.
33:00So we did not see them.
33:01No.
33:01Fair enough.
33:04Listen, we look forward to the new trip.
33:06That's coming out next month on Sky.
33:08And bills included starts next Friday.
33:11Rob Brydon, everybody.
33:15All right.
33:18It's time.
33:19It's time for music.
33:20He is the two-time Grammy nominee who has become the most streamed folk artist of all time.
33:26Performing the title track from his latest number one album, The Great Divide.
33:31It's Noah Khan.
33:32Noah Khan, everybody.
33:34And his band.
33:35Come on over, Noah.
33:40So nice to meet you.
33:42Come on up, Noah.
33:43That's Rob, Laura, David, Cynthia.
33:48That is Noah.
33:52How great was that?
33:54They love you.
33:57They love you.
33:58No, I can't.
33:59I'm loving the threads.
34:00That's fabulous.
34:01Thank you very much.
34:02No, really nice.
34:03I actually made it myself.
34:04Well, well done you.
34:06No, that's a lie.
34:07Back at the tour bus with the bedazzler.
34:10It's very nice.
34:11Have you met anyone on the couch before?
34:12No.
34:13This is the perfect place to meet you guys.
34:15How are you guys doing?
34:16Nice to meet you.
34:17Pleasure.
34:17Hi, Laura.
34:18It's relaxed, it's casual.
34:19Huge fans of all of you guys.
34:21Thanks for your work.
34:22Listen, we're so thrilled you're here and so happy for all your success.
34:25That song you just played, that is from the latest number one album,
34:31The Great Divide.
34:31Now, that is available now.
34:33It has been, I think, for 28 weeks and it's been in the top 20 that whole time.
34:40Wow.
34:4028 weeks now.
34:45And, you know, everyone got to know you with Stick Season and I just wondered,
34:51because of the huge success of that song, that album, how weird or stressful was it
34:57to kind of go, okay, now I'm going to do another album?
34:59Oh, it's horrible.
35:00Yeah.
35:01I hated it.
35:02Yeah, honestly, even after, before I even finished making Stick Season, I was already
35:06thinking about the next album.
35:07So, I didn't enjoy, I don't enjoy anything very much and this process was like, the process
35:12was painful.
35:13I was just stressed about like, reproducing it and like, all the pressure and like, I
35:17don't know.
35:17So, even when I was a little kid, I had writer's block.
35:20So, I was always scared of like, not being able to create the way I want to and then it's
35:25kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
35:26Yeah.
35:26Yeah, that was bad.
35:27I actually got so bad that I thought about like, quitting music and becoming a groundskeeper
35:31for my golf course.
35:32I was, I thought it would be a really nice like, humble like, just like, day-to-day task.
35:37Yeah.
35:37But I'm sure it would have gotten like, fucking golf block too.
35:43But I, I, your story is extraordinary.
35:45So, this song, Stick Season, that went out on TikTok stuff, was it overnight or did you
35:51notice it kind of gradually gathering momentum and becoming this huge phenomenon?
35:56Um, it was kind of, I guess overnight like anything is on social media.
36:00I, uh, I wrote the first verse and then I was like, so, I'm so insecure still, nothing's
36:05changed.
36:05But I was even more insecure back then and I, I would delete things like, immediately if
36:09I didn't think they were going to do well.
36:11And I had gotten high.
36:12I took an edible and I had gotten high so I forgot to delete it.
36:15And I was like, I just went to bed and like, probably watched like, Spongebob or something.
36:19I was going to bed and like, fell asleep.
36:20And then woke up the next morning like, oh shit, I forgot to delete that horrible song.
36:23And then it had like, all these views and likes and stuff and, yeah.
36:27And that's how I get my confidence, so it's perfect.
36:29Likes.
36:30And we all get our confidence in likes.
36:32Yeah.
36:33And I love, like, it's very rare you get someone on the couch and you, you know, we
36:37often say, and you're going on tour.
36:39You're on tour now.
36:40Yeah.
36:40But your next year, Mr. Mann is going on a tour.
36:44It's called The Last of the Bugs.
36:46It's a 31-date world stadium tour.
36:49Wow.
36:50Right?
36:50It's 2027.
36:52You're playing three nights at Wembley Stadium.
36:54There's three nights at Wembley Stadium.
36:57Wow.
36:57Don't try and buy a ticket.
36:58The golf.
36:59Crazy.
37:01Crazy.
37:01Yeah.
37:03I'm going to blow it.
37:04When was that TikTok thing?
37:05How long ago was that?
37:06Like three years ago.
37:06Three years?
37:07Yeah.
37:082023.
37:09The TikTok thing was three years ago.
37:11I know.
37:11That's crazy.
37:11And now three nights at Wembley Stadium.
37:13I'm milking it, dude.
37:17As long as the banjo's in style, we'll stay around as long.
37:21I do, I mean, I know you're being self-deprecating and stuff, but you are kind of, you are enjoying
37:25it, right?
37:26I'm having a lot, I'm having a ton of fun.
37:27Oh, good.
37:28I'm getting to hang out with you guys.
37:29We're all longtime friends now.
37:31This is the best moment of my life.
37:33Yes.
37:35We should acknowledge, big singing voice at the other end of the couch.
37:42I was very scared when I was singing because I knew you were over here and I was like, aw,
37:45dude.
37:45It's beautiful.
37:46Aw.
37:46You sound amazing.
37:48And I know in the past you've done concerts.
37:50I have.
37:50Would you ever do like a tour tour?
37:53I kind of do a mini tour throughout the year.
37:56I end up doing lots of symphonies.
37:58And with jobs and stuff, do you, do you kind of go talky talky sing now?
38:04Talk, talk, sing.
38:05A little bit, yeah.
38:06A little bit, yeah.
38:06A little bit, yeah.
38:07So when are we going to hit a sing again?
38:09We just hit a sing.
38:10I did the Hollywood Bowl.
38:11Oh, of course you did.
38:12In fact, Jesus Christ Superstar.
38:13Jesus Christ Superstar, yeah.
38:15That was a different Hollywood Bowl.
38:18Do they have that thing at the Hollywood Bowl where people are eating dinner in front of you?
38:21That's right.
38:22That's a crazy thing, right?
38:24This is not the Hollywood Bowl in Surbiton where you can go ten pin bowling.
38:28It's not that one.
38:29It's not that one.
38:30That wouldn't be as impressive.
38:31No, I think it would be fun.
38:33It would be fun, yeah.
38:35It would be fun.
38:36Yeah.
38:36Yeah.
38:36No, so usually they finish eating before I start singing.
38:39OK, good.
38:40Yeah.
38:40I was going to say, that would be annoying.
38:41She refuses to go on.
38:42But I don't mind.
38:43You don't mind?
38:44No, no, no.
38:45It's kind of the wonderful thing about the Hollywood Bowl is people can come with their families
38:49and it is a really lovely night out.
38:51It's a beautiful venue.
38:52To just be there.
38:52You can hear recordings of Elvis in Vegas and on some of the...
38:56When fans have recorded it in the audience, you can hear the clanking of cutlery.
39:01Yeah.
39:01It's Elvis!
39:02Right?
39:03On this...
39:05It feels bizarre.
39:08Oh, yeah.
39:09That's such a historic venue.
39:11That's amazing.
39:11It's wonderful.
39:12You ever feel like...
39:13You probably don't feel like this, but you see all the famous people that have played
39:15there and you're like, man, I'm about to go fuck this thing up forever.
39:19This was here and now it's me?
39:20What are we doing?
39:24That's how I feel.
39:26Well, Noah, good luck with everything.
39:28You did.
39:28You so deserve it.
39:30Well done on the album and thank you for that great performance.
39:32Noah Kahn, everyone!
39:35You guys are amazing.
39:37Sorry.
39:39No, no.
39:39You stay.
39:40You stay.
39:41Everyone stays.
39:42Everyone stays.
39:43Once we get you, you can't leave.
39:45Okay.
39:45Yeah.
39:46It's like an episode of Black Mirror.
39:48It's the endless chat show.
39:50It's like the Truman Show.
39:51Oh, yes.
39:52Oh.
39:53Nice reference.
39:55Which you were in, famously.
39:56Yeah.
39:58We got it.
39:59I would have stayed in there if I was for a minute.
40:01And listen, that's it before we go.
40:02It's just time for a quick visit to the big red chair.
40:04Who have we got?
40:05Hello.
40:05Hello.
40:06Hi, what's your name?
40:07Heather.
40:07Heather, hello Heather.
40:08Where are you from?
40:09I'm from Florida, but I'm originally from New York, which I tell you
40:11because I don't want you to think I'm a crazy Florida person.
40:13Okay, fair enough.
40:15And so where do you live now?
40:17In Florida?
40:17In Orlando, right by Disney World.
40:19And so you're just here on holidays?
40:20Yes.
40:20Yeah, I actually got here this morning.
40:22Oh, wow.
40:23Yes.
40:23Wired.
40:26Someone took a caffeine pill.
40:28All right, Heather.
40:30Off you go with your story.
40:32So some years ago, we had a local radio station.
40:34They had like a 21 and up game show.
40:37And I got called up for Family Feud, which I think you call Family Vault
40:41or something like that.
40:42Family Fortunes.
40:43That's it.
40:44Family Fortune, yes.
40:45So the question was, name something that starts with the letter C,
40:49that men don't like to do.
40:51And my husband and my friend are yelling, cook, cook,
40:54because that wasn't on the board.
40:55I had had some drinks and thought I'd be funny and leaned into the
40:59microphone and said cunnilingus.
41:05I thought it was funny.
41:06It was funny.
41:08Yeah.
41:08We saw it coming, though.
41:09Yeah.
41:10We saw it coming.
41:11Yeah.
41:11Yeah.
41:12We saw it coming.
41:14Yeah.
41:16I thought it was going to be cunnilingus.
41:17And then when they were saying cook, cook, I thought she'd
41:19just say cop.
41:20That's funny.
41:21OK, that really is all we've got time for.
41:23So please say a huge thank you to all of our guests tonight.
41:25Noah Khan.
41:28Rob Brydon.
41:30Laura Linney.
41:33David Tennant.
41:35And Cynthia Erivo.
41:39Join me next week with pop supergroup Take That.
41:42Top Chef Jamie Oliver.
41:43Oscar winner Michelle Yeoh.
41:45Comedy great Ben Stiller.
41:46And the king of Chad himself, Robert De Niro.
41:48I'll see you then.
41:49Good afternoon.
41:50Bye-bye.
41:50Bye-bye.