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What does Dan Quinn's future look like if the Commanders lose tonight? Will that spell the end?

Grant and Danny break it down from every angle.

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00:00is there any path at all with a rough night in the mini-buy?
00:06The only reason I ask is because it's by 2.0 here,
00:09where you have the most days you're going to have to do anything.
00:11Yeah, by one and a half.
00:12That Quinn could be in trouble after tonight.
00:14And the worst-case scenarios include another meltdown at the end of the game,
00:19this one with everybody watching.
00:20If you get to the end of the game and something crazy happens,
00:23that would be bad for him.
00:25If you get blown out in a pick-em-type game,
00:27you're a one-and-a-half-point underdog,
00:29obviously that's not a good look.
00:30You know how I feel, though?
00:31I think the ship has sailed.
00:32I believe that the chance you had to move on from him
00:35was much earlier on,
00:37closer back to when the last Giants fiasco happened.
00:40And I now think you've weathered the storm.
00:43At this point, it's just people screaming.
00:44It's just noise.
00:45Sure.
00:46That eventually goes away.
00:47The team is actually playing hard.
00:49You beat the Eagles.
00:50You hung with the Rams.
00:51You were right there with the Niners.
00:53I think there's enough for them to point to
00:54to just continue down this path.
00:56Now, I also think he's not going to be back next year, likely.
00:59But I do believe he finishes out the season.
01:01I don't see any world where they use this mini-buy
01:03to make a change.
01:03I don't either.
01:04And play this out for me.
01:06Let's say it's bad tonight for whatever reason.
01:08It happens.
01:09A stinker on primetime.
01:10That's never happened to Washington before,
01:12said the person that's never seen them.
01:13But let's say it is bad.
01:15Can you imagine how much worse it would look
01:18if you don't do anything with a trade deadline,
01:20you double down on this whole enterprise,
01:23this whole process,
01:24and then fired him?
01:26Like, to me, this is now Adam Peters.
01:29I don't know.
01:29It's not, again, it's not quite they're totally tied together,
01:31but there's a, there was a doubling down on this.
01:34Whereas there's no scapegoat anymore, right?
01:36If, had you decided,
01:38hey, after that debacle,
01:39where you got,
01:40we couldn't get a playoff on fourth,
01:41on to get the field goal,
01:43and you didn't know what down it was,
01:44just the way it looked.
01:45And this game mismanagement,
01:48the timeout bungling,
01:49how many legal procedure penalties there are,
01:52we can't watch this for another second.
01:54You're gone.
01:54There's your scapegoat, right?
01:56Where it's like his operation wasn't any good.
01:58You've now gone.
01:59I endorse him.
02:01I endorse this roster I put together.
02:03I endorse this team,
02:04this whole process.
02:05We're good, man.
02:06We don't need anything.
02:07And then you fired him?
02:09That would, to me,
02:10that would be the, like,
02:11would look so terrible for Peters.
02:12It does seem like,
02:14by not making any trades,
02:16you probably then can't move on from him.
02:19Because you signed up for an eval period
02:22for the rest of the year,
02:23or a going for it period.
02:25But, my rebuttal to that is,
02:27if you lose this game,
02:27there is no going for it.
02:28If you lose this game.
02:30You went and it's over.
02:30I don't care about the math.
02:32This is it.
02:32This is the whole ballgame.
02:33You either win and you have a shot,
02:34or you lose,
02:35and the competitive portion of the season is over.
02:37The other thing,
02:38and I could tie in the deadline in this way, too.
02:42Both could actually work,
02:43where you didn't make any moves at the deadline,
02:45and you were to fire him.
02:48Not making trades at the deadline
02:49was Adam Peters saying,
02:50we are good enough to win the division.
02:52This is a good roster.
02:53Then you fired Dan Quinn
02:54after a bad performance tonight,
02:55and your press conference is,
02:58we love Dan.
02:58He's a great guy.
02:59We're moving on to something new and fresh here.
03:02But Peters essentially says,
03:03this is not a bad roster.
03:05We lost Terry McLaurin and Deami Brown,
03:07and we're not struggling at wide receiver.
03:10We lost to Ron Payne and Javon Kinlaw,
03:12who we paid $28 and $15 million against the cap this year,
03:15and we're still pretty good at defensive tackle.
03:18There is spots where there is depth.
03:20We are without a tight end that we like a lot this week,
03:24and we're three deep at the position.
03:27I agree that they have spots they need to work on,
03:30and this is not a great roster,
03:31but there are plenty of positions
03:32where they're actually very well built.
03:35And he could sit there if they were to make a move
03:37and say, the reason we didn't make any trades
03:40is we do think we're good enough to win.
03:41We don't look at this roster and see two, six, and one.
03:44And by the way, that is why we're making this move.
03:47We don't think we're getting good enough leadership
03:49and coaching, and we're going to find the guy
03:51to take this roster to greater heights.
03:55That would be the way that you could thread the needle
03:57between the two.
03:58Now, I do not think they're going to do that.
04:00Right.
04:00I think Dan Quinn is here for the rest of the year,
04:02regardless of what happens.
04:04I guess it's possible that with a couple weeks left
04:06in the season, if they lose 30-13 or something
04:09a couple times, with two weeks left,
04:10you could have some interim coaching period
04:13to evaluate somebody on the staff
04:14just as a, you know, should we keep them around type guy.
04:17But, I don't know, I don't see it.
04:20Let's go to Shane in Fairfax.
04:21Shane, do you think anything that could happen tonight
04:23would even make Josh Harris have to think
04:24long and hard about a change?
04:27What up, Commander? What up, GP?
04:30Hey, buddy.
04:31Hey, Commander, I tell you what, man,
04:33you're getting good at that.
04:34Pretty soon people go and think,
04:35man, you're a kin, my friend.
04:38Appreciate you, buddy.
04:40You can come down south and pass all day long
04:42for Southern.
04:43Hey, look, let me tell you something.
04:44No, I'm with you, GP.
04:45I think that regardless,
04:47I know the fan base don't want to hear it,
04:49but I think he's here.
04:50If they wanted to let him go,
04:52they would have done it a long time ago.
04:55Now, like you said,
04:56now it's not about Dan Quinn now.
04:57It's about AP.
04:59It's about him now.
05:00We know Dan Quinn's not coming back next year.
05:02We know he's,
05:03unless he goes out and wins a damn Super Bowl,
05:05which we know that's not going to happen.
05:06How sure are you, Shane?
05:07You say that like it's a foregone conclusion.
05:09I still have real fear that that's not set in stone.
05:13Here's why I say that.
05:14Because if they keep losing,
05:17by the end of the year,
05:18the fan base is not going to be going to the stadiums.
05:21And I don't know if you're going,
05:23but a season ticket holders,
05:25if you go to these games,
05:26nobody's, hey, look,
05:27every time you lose,
05:29the fan base is not going to show up.
05:31I agree.
05:31And you made a great point the other day
05:33that the attendance,
05:34and I'm there,
05:34I'm seeing it.
05:35It is dropping.
05:36And there's nothing worse
05:37if you're an owner than empty seats.
05:38I agree with you.
05:39Dress like a seat,
05:40as Anthony Davis said.
05:42And not only that, GP,
05:43you see the other team
05:45more than our fans there, right?
05:47So the Wade team is now home game.
05:49And that's the last thing you want.
05:51That's any owner,
05:52as any kind of competitor,
05:54if you will, right,
05:55coming into your stadium
05:57or whatever you do for business
05:58and taking over.
05:59But you said if they keep losing, okay?
06:02They play the Giants
06:03in a pick-em game tonight.
06:04The Cardinals with a third-string quarterback,
06:06they could win that game.
06:08The Titans are a...
06:09That's a cost-up game.
06:09Well, I agree,
06:10but I'm just saying, hypothetically,
06:11if you just beat
06:12some of the worst teams in the league,
06:14the Cardinals are on your schedule,
06:15the Titans are on your schedule,
06:17the Falcons are poo-poo,
06:18the Texans are 3-5,
06:19they probably will beat Washington.
06:21But my point is,
06:22they could just be bad
06:24and win three or four more games
06:25and get to five or six on the season.
06:28And then you've had a 500-stretch run.
06:30And how do you know
06:30they're not going to turn around
06:31and go,
06:32look, the second half
06:33was way better than the first half.
06:34We actually want to keep the band together.
06:37But see,
06:38that's the last thing we want as fans
06:39is necessary wins right now
06:41that we're out of it.
06:42But if we lose tonight,
06:44then, yeah,
06:45then, I mean,
06:46look, here's the thing.
06:47We should have moved
06:48at least a couple of pieces
06:50just for the future,
06:51but we didn't.
06:52So that's where we're at.
06:53Number one,
06:54the offensive line.
06:54We should have done something else.
06:56Decker was still out there.
06:57I don't know if he's still out there or not,
06:58but you had opportunities
06:59to assign people
07:00to help with the left tackle.
07:02But you didn't.
07:03So he is so stubborn
07:04that this is his roster
07:06and he's going to go down
07:08with his ship.
07:08This is his line or die.
07:10Appreciate you, buddy.
07:10Thank you, buddy.
07:11Thanks for the call.
07:11I've got to get to the next one,
07:12but always good to hear from you.
07:14I'm not predicting this.
07:16I just want to float the idea
07:17whenever we hear,
07:19because I'm with Shane.
07:20We're in lockstep, bro.
07:22But when people act so confidently,
07:24like,
07:24it's already set in stone
07:26that it's already been written in Sharpie
07:28that Dan Quinn
07:29is not going to be here next year.
07:30If that was true,
07:31I don't think he'd be here now.
07:33I think they are giving him
07:34every opportunity.
07:35And I'm just saying
07:36you could win tonight
07:37and then you got the Cardinals
07:38with Carson Beck
07:39and then you got the Titans
07:40with Cam Ward
07:41and then eventually
07:42you got the Texans
07:43who that's going to be
07:44a toss-up type game.
07:45Again, they're a three-win team.
07:46The Falcons are not any good.
07:48What if the Jaguars
07:49are resting starters
07:50when you play them in Week 17?
07:51You win an empty calorie game.
07:53We saw it last year
07:54against the Eagles.
07:55Yes, we did.
07:55Week 18 against the Cowboys.
07:57Maybe they win the division
07:58and they're resting a starter.
07:59Maybe they're just bad.
08:00You never beat them.
08:01Dak Prescott torches you.
08:03But it's the final game
08:04of a season on January 10th
08:05and something weird happens.
08:06If you finish
08:08four and three
08:09in your last seven
08:10or something,
08:11I think people need
08:12to prepare themselves
08:12for the possibility
08:14that we're on this
08:14hamster wheel again
08:15next year.
08:16Reggie in D.C.,
08:17what's up?
08:19Hey, what's going on, fellas?
08:20Hey, buddy.
08:20Grant, you hit this
08:21on the head.
08:22Okay.
08:23Dan Quinn
08:24in his introductory
08:25press conference
08:25when he hired
08:26Cliff Kingsbury
08:27he said,
08:27the reason I picked him
08:28is because, man,
08:29when I had to go
08:29against his defense,
08:31his offense rather,
08:31because I just had
08:32so many issues.
08:33I remember that, yeah.
08:34Cliff, Cliff,
08:35I mean,
08:35Dan did not want
08:36to fire Cliff.
08:38AP did.
08:39If you hit all,
08:39believe all the reports
08:41and, you know,
08:41Cliff got tired
08:42or whatever it was.
08:43So you're telling me
08:43right now,
08:44okay, listen,
08:45the guy who I wanted,
08:46who I had success with
08:47in year one,
08:48year two,
08:49again, injuries,
08:50you can put all the factors in,
08:51I got rid of him.
08:52I interviewed,
08:53you're going to tell me
08:54that AP wasn't involved
08:55in the OC decision?
08:56Yeah, okay.
08:56Yes, he was.
08:57So now,
08:58because I'm having
08:59some struggles,
09:00which we had to at least
09:02think that that was going
09:03to be a remote possibility,
09:04you're going to get rid of me
09:06after year one?
09:06Absolutely not.
09:08Dan Quinn will be back
09:09next year unless,
09:11this is the only caveat,
09:12if the wheels fall off.
09:14And what indication
09:15do we have
09:16that it's falling off?
09:17We're losing games, yes,
09:18but it's not falling off.
09:20You gave me a,
09:21you literally gave me
09:22a freshman.
09:23You got to give me
09:24opportunities for this freshman
09:25to grow into a sophomore
09:27and then what we can see.
09:29This fan base can stop
09:30with this nonsense
09:31just automatically assuming
09:33he's going to get fired
09:35when you force me
09:36to get rid of the guys
09:37that I wanted to keep.
09:39Like, come on now,
09:40what are we talking about?
09:41Again, I think we're going to put,
09:42I don't think we're going
09:43to put a run in,
09:44but I think we're going
09:45to win enough games,
09:46probably end up seven wins
09:47where, yeah,
09:48the fan base is not
09:49going to be happy,
09:50but you're going to have
09:52to give me a second opportunity
09:54with these freshmen
09:55because you forced me
09:57to do it,
09:57minus the defense.
09:59The coordinator theory.
10:01It's not crazy.
10:06He didn't do this
10:07by himself.
10:08That part,
10:09I totally agree with.
10:11Meaning the coordinators?
10:12Yes.
10:12Yeah.
10:12He didn't decide,
10:14he didn't go to Adam
10:15and say,
10:15I want to fire
10:16both of these guys.
10:17I want to hire these other.
10:18This was a mutual operation.
10:20How much of it was
10:21Peters dictating to Quinn?
10:23That I can't tell you.
10:24There is the reporting
10:25and I've heard a bunch
10:27that he and Kingsbury did
10:28butt heads
10:29and were at odds
10:30from time to time.
10:32I don't see this team
10:33getting hot
10:34and going on a big run
10:35or ripping off
10:35a bunch of wins in a row
10:36because I don't think
10:37they beat the good teams
10:38they're going to play
10:38like the Minnesotas
10:39or the Bengals.
10:41If you could steal
10:42one of those,
10:43it is possible
10:43that you'd win
10:44three or four in a row.
10:45But for better or worse,
10:46and this is a compliment
10:47to Dan Quinn,
10:47it's maybe not what
10:48people want to hear
10:49that want change,
10:50that want to try
10:51to be great,
10:51that feel like
10:52this is a one-way ticket
10:53to mediocrity
10:54with this staff,
10:55with this coach
10:55over nine years
10:56who's sub-500
10:56and who over his last
10:58several years
10:59is 12 games under
10:59500 in two different places.
11:03His players play
11:04very hard for him.
11:05They don't quit.
11:07You know what I mean?
11:07Yeah, of course.
11:08Aaron Glenn's Jets,
11:10they don't seem that interested
11:11in keeping his job.
11:12You see this all the time
11:13with coaches.
11:14Right now,
11:14the Colts don't look like
11:15a team that is going
11:16to be really sad
11:17when Shane Steichen
11:18gets fired.
11:19The Commanders,
11:20they don't lay down
11:21for Dan Quinn.
11:22They like Dan Quinn.
11:23They're going to play
11:24hard for Dan Quinn.
11:25That's why I think
11:26they have the ability
11:27to steal some of these games
11:28and I just don't see
11:29a change coming in season.
11:31I'll be shocked.
11:32So yeah,
11:32so I,
11:32again,
11:33I know that people
11:34have pointed to Harrison
11:35and what they've done
11:36in hockey for the Devils
11:37where they've changed coaches
11:38like they change underwear,
11:40which I think is more
11:40NHL culture.
11:41Coaches change in that sport
11:43all the time as it is,
11:44so they've kind of
11:45gone along with that
11:46but with,
11:47again,
11:47the one sample we had
11:48for football was
11:49when the whole world
11:50as this team was going
11:514-13 and knew
11:53that Ron and the Martys
11:54were a joke
11:54and they shouldn't
11:55be here at all,
11:57he just,
11:57they waited and bided
11:58their time for the very end.
11:59So at a minimum,
12:00he's going through this season.
12:01At maximum,
12:02we're at worse,
12:03kind of to your point,
12:05the Troops rally
12:05for one last time
12:06for the old Gippa
12:07and next thing you know,
12:09there's some
12:09quote-unquote momentum,
12:10which is a false thing anyway.
12:1230% of rosters turn over
12:13regardless good,
12:14bad,
12:14and different
12:15and momentum
12:16would have been real
12:17if any of the time
12:18Washington had one
12:19of those hot streaks
12:20to end the season,
12:20they would ever have
12:21a good year to follow that up.
12:22The whole thing's bogus
12:23but it's something
12:24people tell themselves
12:24to preserve their gigs
12:25and pat themselves
12:26on the back.
12:27The worst case scenario
12:28is they do just well enough
12:30to convince the fools
12:31that yeah,
12:32we're on the right course,
12:33let's stay with this dude.
12:34Double play is next.
12:36What's going on in our lives?
12:37Nothing to do with sports.
12:38We're closing in on
12:40Commander's Giants
12:41a little bit after
12:428 o'clock tonight,
12:43a little over
12:44four and a half hours
12:45from right now.
12:46This is The Fan.
12:47making sure
12:47that
12:48everything
12:48is

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