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Giannis Antetokounmpo left ‘speechless’ over Doc Rivers shade.
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00:00for 15 minutes of heat I sure do did any of you catch the Doc Rivers comments he was on
00:06with Bill
00:06Simmons over the weekend what he said about Giannis and if you missed it I'll sum it up for you
00:12he
00:12basically said that it was difficult for him to coach Giannis while he was coaching him with the
00:18Milwaukee Bucks and he questioned his basketball IQ he said something along the lines of he just
00:25likes to use his brute force to get to the rim on every play he doesn't believe in execution
00:32and that you know again I think the the the most important takeaway here is Doc kind of torched
00:38Giannis while talking with Bill Simmons Eric said he had low IQ yeah doesn't have a super high IQ
00:49I'm assuming he's saying basketball IQ that was my assumption as well I did watch the quote he
00:54didn't say basketball IQ I think he meant basketball IQ but he didn't specifically say it
01:00okay because there's a to not have a because there's a lot of you hear about how LeBron knows
01:05where everybody's supposed to be at all times and all of that stuff but there's some guys that live
01:09off natural ability as well but if he's talking about just God-given brains that's a that's that's
01:15hurtful well Eric's bullshit was asked about it uh and I'm so torn on this by the way because
01:22I love Giannis and I happen to like when he just steamrolls wherever he wants to go it's maybe
01:28because it's new for us I happen to like for whatever reason it annoyed Doc Rivers I guess
01:33he's trying to run an offense a particular scheme but I like when Giannis just puts his head down
01:39and somehow he ends up with a layup and a foul um but it pains me because I love Doc
01:46Rivers in
01:47uncut gems it's not a reason to pull on this topic I'm just telling you and Doc Rivers only his
01:56voice
01:56is in uncut gems it's at the very end and uh all hell is breaking loose but man he was
02:03so good I'm gonna
02:04I'm gonna take this to a heat to a heat angle to where Bam and Giannis now they're really I
02:10don't
02:10know if they still did I didn't see the Sacramento game how they're playing them separate times Bam is
02:15a system guy listen to the coach do exactly what I'm said I'm told to do if Giannis is just
02:21playing
02:21street ball him and Bam probably don't vibe that well on the court that would be my guess a lot
02:25tell me if I'm wrong well you're wrong because they're playing outstanding and uh yesterday was
02:30another example of it gold state game they were they were rotating they weren't playing together
02:35gold state game are we calling a six point win over one win Sacramento outstanding I didn't call the
02:42win outstanding they were outstanding okay that's fair that's that's a fair delineation and in fact
02:48I mean I if you want to dive into the numbers Giannis had one of the more spectacular games of
02:53his
02:53career yesterday not because of the points he scored but how he got his points he made a career
02:59high seven jumpers yesterday in the game he was just shooting jumpers Sacramento built a wall
03:05and Giannis was in his bag yesterday knocking down jumpers it was a very weird heat game the way that
03:11they ended up winning the game um but they got the victory so they're two and two on this west
03:15coast swing
03:17he he scored 14 points off jumpers is a is a historic night it was a career high in jumpers
03:24made for a
03:25player who Doc Rivers was criticizing only likes to go downhill only likes to be at the rim and can't
03:31really do anything else showed you other parts of his bag last night that wasn't that impressive of a
03:37stat Solana well what about 29 14 hey this guy has 11 jumpers it's not a it's not a great
03:44stat
03:45it's a pretty great set it's a career high for Giannis how many people know how many people know
03:51their career high in jumpers he's not a jump shooter I get that I'm just saying it's not a
03:58stat that's normally measured you're saying it's a career high like it's a big deal but who cares
04:02about someone's career high in jumpers well I do I I care because it was fascinating yesterday how
04:08how Giannis got his points it was fascinating yeah it was it was it was fascinating it was
04:14fascinating it was a big takeaway from the game yesterday fascinating means something he's 10 he's
04:20jumping from 10 feet and throwing the ball in the rim he had 29 14 three assists two steals two
04:28blocks
04:28yesterday he was a plus 19 only the third game as a member of the heat where he had a
04:34positive plus
04:35minus and the heat yesterday made a change to the starting five remember I told you on Friday
04:39we've got a Wiggins problem they subbed Andrew Wiggins for Pella Larson and the Miami heater one
04:45and oh with Pella on the starting five also Tim Hardaway jr. is getting just a couple more minutes than
04:51me y'all shoot the same percentage you might as well get some minutes the Hulk Tim Hardaway jr.
04:59has not scored a point in three games it's it's remarkable they think they forced Tim Hardaway
05:08jr. to give away his retired number hey hey Tim give it back here give it here you can't wait
05:17he is a he is a combined 0 of 8 in his last three games for the Miami heat anyway
05:23go ahead with the
05:23Doc River stuff I was just giving you the business there because I like uh you get no pushback on
05:28pre-heat
05:29and post-heat and all that stuff and I just like I like giving you the business all right so
05:35Eric
05:35Spolscher was asked about these Doc Rivers comments as you can imagine Spoh did not engage
05:41yesterday Giannis Antetokounmpo after his fascinating game with seven career jumpers
05:47what he was he was asked about Doc's comments Eric Neem who covers the team covered Giannis in
05:54Milwaukee the athletic uh sent him down here to Miami does fantastic work here's his video
05:59yesterday in the locker room asking Giannis about the about these comments
06:04podcast and said that he felt like you can be not so easy to coach that it's sometimes difficult to
06:11get the best out of you just what is it kind of feel like to hear that from who said
06:17that Doc
06:18uh from your own coach oh my god um first of all it's not my own not my coach my
06:27coach is uh coach
06:28Paul uh but he's a guy that he's a coach that I've worked in the past uh um speechless um
06:37um he made those comments when today a couple days ago yeah you you gotta you gotta go you have
06:44his
06:44number right you do I know you do you gotta go ask him you know why he thought that like
06:51that's on him
06:52that's not on me that I just gotta focus on you know my team and you know what I gotta
06:56do and
06:56how I can be better and how can I help the team but like god damn that's crazy never like
07:05never let
07:06I don't know bitterness or pettiness uh get in front of your goals and training for every athlete
07:13out there never let that that's that's insane but you gotta go ask him what he why he said what
07:19he said
07:20not me so I watched that this morning I love yeah I mean I love Giannis because even
07:30instead of just giving you know this hackneyed answer that most athletes would he's like
07:37like he's making noises like you would make at the office if someone said you know hey we're at 13
07:46percent on toner and uh do you think we should change the toner now or should we wait till we
07:52print off that big product
07:56yeah let's change the toner like I like that he's he's such a normal guy to me I'm not certain
08:03that I
08:03don't believe I'm not certain I believe that he wasn't aware of the Doc Rivers comments until that
08:08very moment because it was a couple days prior and it was kind of everywhere so I'm not certain that
08:13I completely believe that's the first he's learning of the comments regardless I love
08:20Giannis I also like Giannis talking to Doc Rivers as if he's a young upcoming athlete saying don't
08:27let pettiness get in the way of your dreams and Doc Rivers kind of like done everything he wanted to
08:33do but I took the clicking and and moaning as cuss words because there's no way a guy of Doc
08:42Rivers elk and Giannis's all-star celebrity status that have been in this building together
08:49don't know that they don't see eye to eye there's no way Doc surprised the world with that
08:53I think Giannis was clicking like this raggedy bastard now he done told the media that me and
08:58him ain't getting along who don't let the pettiness young athletes don't let the pettiness get to you
09:03like I think you're right yeah he was censoring himself he was surprised that Doc told the world
09:09that for some reason he was shocked you could tell I think he was hurt by it too oh I
09:13think he was hurt
09:14that Doc would say that publicly about especially imagine coming off a record night on jumpers
09:23you know seven yeah like think about that like what what a terrible night to have this information
09:30foisted upon you because this is probably probably is it his biggest athletic accomplishment is his
09:37lead is his career lead in jumpers and then you're faced with that so now you can understand also why
09:43he
09:43would be so you're telling me post game show everybody everybody's asking about Giannis and
09:49the the different way he got his shots yes it was the it was the biggest takeaway from the game
09:53yesterday different audience than this yes that's right Crowder you are 100% that's interesting you
09:59are saying that this show is very different than pre and post heat you are 100% correct you have
10:06nailed it you have absolutely nailed it not wasn't my intention to ever even bring it up
10:12yeah no it was you two big time it was it was Crowder saying that Giannis and Bam can't play
10:18together which again it was just proven wrong over the past couple games where both of them are
10:22averaging ridiculous numbers oh Giannis got 14 from 10 you're more you're more upset at that than
10:27Giannis being talked about then like Giannis had a more tempered response and so on oh you're telling
10:35me that because me and Jax and Amy Auduburt were fascinated by something that
10:41you're not
10:48bro he's averaging Giannis is averaging yesterday at 29 points Crowder he's averaging over 50% from
10:56the floor 28 points per game 13 rebounds per game five assists he's he's being the superstar he's
11:02being a top 10 player I know I didn't say he's not good but all Bam's numbers are down if
11:07you want
11:07to rattle off the same numbers for Bam they're all the numbers Bam's numbers are not down after
11:12the first four games numbers can't be down but let's take out all the bad games Solana it's only
11:17eight games into the season take out four of them how what's the record what's the record what's the
11:22record four and five nine games you want to take out four you want to take out four of the
11:2810 and
11:29say holy six games it doesn't make sense on it's not we're not 70 games into the season we are
11:36what
11:36I'm doing games into the season and we know they don't they have not figured out how to play well
11:41together don't bring up Sacramento because they're a middle school team they've gotten significantly better
11:46on the court and his numbers even with the first four games he's averaging 19 points per game eight
11:51rebounds per game on 53% shooting how is that not good it's lower than his past it's lower and
11:58he's
11:59not getting any assist he's standing over there in the corner at times Golden State I watched the
12:02entire game they switched in and out that was two games ago you bring up the recency bias of what
12:07you
12:08said and your narrative want to be they don't play well together that's what I'm trying to be figuring
12:11out and that's why they have a losing record right now because they haven't figured it out Solana you can
12:16go to
12:16hell with jump shooting numbers whatever you want to there is a funny text I'm gonna go seven jump
12:22shots for a career high sounds more like you're taking a jab at him
12:32also to the person who put on the chat Hawk is tripping there's zero percent chance the
12:36Canes get the playoffs with three L's when the hell did I say that
12:44I agree man Hawk is tripping bro Hawk has no idea what he's talking about you think they'll lose
12:50the Duke and Wake Forest and get into the college football playoff you're crazy bro you know I but
12:57but to the to the Doc Rivers thing quick because I was just thinking about guys they said Randy Moss
13:02was hard to play with or he was he was hard to coach because he was just so good I'm
13:07not running
13:07around how you tell me I'm gonna run I'm gonna go get open Junior Sayow would be the epitome of
13:11that
13:12Junior Sayow didn't run the defense he is a 12-time Pro Bowler Hall of Fame first ballot
13:17but he was gonna do whatever he wanted to because he was that good if Giannis is that good
13:21cut him loose and give him the damn biscuit well correct me if I'm wrong Doc did not have success
13:25in Milwaukee with Giannis right it was a disaster he overtook Adrian Griffin's team who was the one
13:31seed in the east and then it was just an unmitigated disaster after that Doc in his mind and his
13:37explanation forevermore has to explain why didn't you have success with that Bucs roster and I'm
13:45guessing he's always thought to himself because Giannis was uncoachable I wanted to run something
13:51and he was just interested in doing what he wanted but hey uh I mean Doc Rivers was a star
13:56like
13:56uh spoiler alert that's what superstars do when you're top five basketball player in the league
14:02like you're if you think that you need a bucket you're gonna go get that bucket and by the way
14:07if
14:07you don't do that we criticize you and this is something that uh Jax told us Ira told us Jim
14:13Larry Negus said it you get a guy like Giannis you don't put him in your system you build your
14:18system around Giannis so Doc was trying to make him I don't know what the hell player he was trying
14:22to make him but obviously Giannis was being Giannis which he should because he's an MVP and an NBA
14:27champion man that 15 minutes of heat did not go in the direction Solana thought it was no it did
14:32not
14:33and by the way he said Doc Doc has reportedly apologized to Giannis via text Mark J Spears is
14:39on NBA today and he reached out to Doc and he says that Doc ultimately texted Giannis explained
14:47some things to him that superstars are tough to coach and he was trying to get more spacing for
14:52Giannis that was a challenge um and he apologized for the low IQ comment all right we gotta take a
14:58break
14:59here we will come back we're gonna give you the top 10 list of uh jump leaders in the NBA
15:04when we
15:04come back who is leading the NBA in jumpers Solana I'm sorry that I find it such sport to do
15:20that
15:21that was legit but that was funny like that was funny but he is surprised that he doesn't get the
15:27same reaction out of us that he does out of Jack's name he ought to hurt no I'm not surprised
15:32I'm not
15:33surprised you thought historic jumper night was gonna get off with pickle article it's not historic
15:38jumper night it's just that Giannis scored 29 points doing it in a different way he's ever done it
15:44his entire 10-year NBA career that is interesting that that is interesting in and of itself okay I
15:51get it but like how many do you think he's had in the past has he had a night with
15:54four jumpers
15:55yeah okay so he had three more jumpers last night like that's the part he didn't do it all on
16:02jumpers
16:03he didn't have 14 attempts all of them jumpers and shot 14 of 14 I just don't think it was
16:08as
16:08spectacular or fascinating as you made it out to be he made more points on other things
16:27simple math
16:35funny