Dave Portnoy Reacts to Michigan Firing Jason Beck, Oregon Stuns Ohio State + Jon Gruden's NFL Recap

Name: Dave Portnoy Reacts to Michigan Firing Jason Beck, Oregon Stuns Ohio State + Jon Gruden's NFL Recap
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00:00:02Welcome in, guys.

00:00:04Monday's Wake Up Barstool is just a sad sack of humans here on Monday's Wake Up Barstool.

00:00:10We had a great weekend of football.

00:00:11The Bears last night beat the Buccaneers.

00:00:13The Packers rolled the Patriots.

00:00:15Notre Dame comes up with a controversial massive win over the Hurricanes.

00:00:19LSU gets embarrassed by the Crimson Tide.

00:00:21We got Coach Cruden coming on.

00:00:23We got Brandon and the whole Monday crew here.

00:00:24And it all starts now on FS1.

00:00:35Good start to the day.

00:00:36The fives are incredibly high.

00:00:49Here it is, guys.

00:00:50Why do we do it?

00:00:51Why do we love football so much, Brandon?

00:00:53Why do we love this thing that can cause us so much pain and so much hurt?

00:00:58You lose your third game of the season.

00:01:00You're acting like this?

00:01:01I am.

00:01:01You're acting like this.

00:01:02I know I'm spoiled.

00:01:03I know.

00:01:03That's why I'm trying to go to an expert to help me out here.

00:01:06I just, I don't know.

00:01:08I mean, Dave, how are you feeling today?

00:01:10It's about as rough a football weekend as you've had since when?

00:01:15This is a bad football weekend for me.

00:01:17And I have a quote from the great Marv Levy of the Buffalo Bills that I have to start this

00:01:24show.

00:01:25Fight on my men, Sir Andrew said.

00:01:28Okay.

00:01:28A little I'm hurt, but not yet slain.

00:01:31I'll just lie down and bleed a while.

00:01:34And then next weekend, I'll rise and fight again.

00:01:37So, you know, that pretty much sums it up.

00:01:41A bad, bad weekend.

00:01:43Really, for two different things.

00:01:46We're talking pro, we're talking college.

00:01:48Michigan, I mean, maybe it's a good thing.

00:01:50Michigan loses to Michigan State, loses to the Paul Bunyan Axe, which, you know,

00:01:56Whittingham doesn't even seem to care about trophies or rivalries or anything.

00:02:00Jason Beck fired the next day.

00:02:04Now, we've heard multiple out of Michigan that he was forced to, that it was like basically,

00:02:12hey, you have to fire this guy or else you're on the chopping block.

00:02:16That would be what I guessed happened, to be honest, because his reaction after the game

00:02:21didn't seem like he was going to fire Jason Beck.

00:02:23I have absolutely no idea.

00:02:25This won't change anything for Michigan, firing the offensive coordinator.

00:02:29Won't fire anything.

00:02:30I'll change it because they still have now an old Utah coach who's been there forever.

00:02:33So, it's this Utah system.

00:02:37I think Whittingham has to go.

00:02:38I think the whole thing has to go.

00:02:40I think the whole thing has to be blown up.

00:02:42I think Bryce Underwood has got one of the rawest deals of any player ever.

00:02:46He could still be like a top 10 QB.

00:02:49Nobody could succeed in this system that they have.

00:02:53The fact they didn't let Underwood come in and at least have a shot when they couldn't

00:02:58move the ball, couldn't score.

00:02:59They've been shut out three times.

00:03:01This is a debacle in Ann Arbor, an absolute debacle in Ann Arbor.

00:03:06And, yes, Jason Beck absolutely had to be fired, but this is like sticking your hole

00:03:12in a dam.

00:03:13This isn't going to fix anything.

00:03:15This isn't.

00:03:15What?

00:03:16Well, we got to play the audio.

00:03:18We got to play the Whittingham audio.

00:03:19Like, since we're here talking about it, because this is the wildest quote that I can remember

00:03:25head coach saying.

00:03:26This guy, this guy is watching Matlock.

00:03:30He's watching Murder, She Wrote.

00:03:32He still has only the three network channels.

00:03:36This guy, and it's, again, one of those things we have on this show.

00:03:41This guy is asleep at the wheel.

00:03:44He's watching Golden Girls.

00:03:46He's, this guy, this guy, he may have had a great career at Utah, but this man is asleep.

00:03:53He shows no reaction.

00:03:55It's like he's sedated on the side.

00:03:57This is what he does all game.

00:04:00No reaction to anything that's going on.

00:04:03Now, did he have a good run in Utah?

00:04:05Yeah.

00:04:06Is this killing his legacy?

00:04:08Look, go well, go look what Utah's doing.

00:04:11Utah's, what, two, three in the country?

00:04:13They're having the best season they've had in 20 years.

00:04:15All they had to do was get rid of this guy.

00:04:18So, yes, Jason Beck, see you later, but we bring in a guy.

00:04:21He's not a fit on any level, on anything, and we can play the clips.

00:04:27He's done it all year, but he's living in a dream world, this guy.

00:04:31Yeah, so let's play Coach Whittingham after the game, talking about, you know, these games,

00:04:37the trophies, and where Michigan's season goes from here.

00:04:41It's my job as a coach to rally him back up and get him ready to, you know, compete for

00:04:45these last three games.

00:04:46And I don't know, is there any more trophies in these last three games?

00:04:49I don't think there's any more trophies.

00:04:50But anyway.

00:04:52This guy stinks.

00:04:54And by the way, a week ago or two weeks ago, he's like, we got to see the full body

00:04:58of work

00:04:59before we can judge.

00:05:00What are you talking about?

00:05:01This isn't the NFL.

00:05:02Well, you got to get the playoffs.

00:05:05The fact, this team wouldn't make the playoffs when we expand to 24.

00:05:09So.

00:05:11Yeah, 48.

00:05:12So I'm glad Jason Beck is gone.

00:05:14And this isn't personal.

00:05:15I'm sure he's a nice enough guy, good family, whatever.

00:05:18This guy is a football terrorist.

00:05:22Whittingham football terrorist.

00:05:23And just, I don't know how we're going to do it.

00:05:25I don't know where the money is going to come from.

00:05:27We're Michigan, whatever.

00:05:28Who knows what's going on at state, that school.

00:05:31Everything's falling apart.

00:05:32And I also have something to say before we move on past this, all right?

00:05:36Before we go past this.

00:05:37Yeah.

00:05:38You know, as embarrassing as it was, there were two things that were equally, if not more,

00:05:44embarrassing this weekend.

00:05:45And I'm going to start with the team we played, Michigan State.

00:05:49Michigan State celebrating this win.

00:05:53Hoisting the trophy.

00:05:55I'm seeing all videos of them dancing around Ann Arbor.

00:05:58They're burning couches in East Lansing.

00:06:01You didn't do a diddly poo.

00:06:03You didn't do a diddly poo.

00:06:07Have some self-respect, Michigan State.

00:06:11You didn't do nothing.

00:06:13You stink.

00:06:15You're one of the worst teams in the Big Ten.

00:06:17You beat a cripple.

00:06:19We're a cripple.

00:06:20Anybody can beat us.

00:06:22Western Michigan beat us.

00:06:23Minnesota beat us.

00:06:25I don't care.

00:06:27You're going to burn couches for people.

00:06:28We can't score on a high school team if you had an ounce of dignity and an ounce of class.

00:06:35Michigan State, they're too stupid.

00:06:37They would have walked across the field, shook hands, and acted like this was no big deal.

00:06:42Because you didn't beat anybody.

00:06:44This Michigan team, I want them to lose.

00:06:47I want you to lose by 30.

00:06:49Get them all out.

00:06:50To watch Michigan State celebrate after picking on a handicapped kid, a kid with disabilities, that's what Michigan State does

00:06:59because that's who Michigan is right now.

00:07:01We're a cripple.

00:07:02We're a has-been.

00:07:04We're a joke.

00:07:05And it's all the coaching stuff.

00:07:07Number two, I want an apology from every single person in Columbus.

00:07:12I want them to get in line and line up.

00:07:16I'm in the keys from here to New Mexico.

00:07:19And I want them all to come in a receiving line and say, hey, Dave Portnoy, you've been right about

00:07:26Ryan Day from the jump.

00:07:28He's a coward.

00:07:30He can't coach.

00:07:31He was born on third base.

00:07:32All of it.

00:07:33Get in line and say, I'm sorry.

00:07:36You should be back on big noon kickoff.

00:07:39It was a joke what they did to you.

00:07:41They're trying.

00:07:41Yes, we have problems in Ann Arbor.

00:07:43But that team's a joke with the talent they have.

00:07:46So, yeah, real bad weekend for Michigan.

00:07:49No doubt.

00:07:50And a bad week.

00:07:50I'm sure we'll get into the Patriots, which was really more disappointing for me.

00:07:55But let's not forget, as bad as the weekend Michigan had, Michigan State had a worse weekend, and Ohio State

00:08:03had the worst weekend of the bunch.

00:08:05Well, no.

00:08:06No to Michigan State.

00:08:07They were 2-6.

00:08:07Yes, that was embarrassing.

00:08:08They were 2-6 and going through their own crap.

00:08:10They get to be happy, okay?

00:08:11They get to be happy.

00:08:12Not that happy.

00:08:13They knock off the jackasses they have to share a state with.

00:08:15You had to feel good for Michigan State.

00:08:17It's like throwing a kid in a wheelchair down a flight of stairs and celebrating.

00:08:20Because Michigan State's probably spent all season saying, Michigan's bad, Michigan's bad, Michigan's bad.

00:08:24And you're showing up every single week.

00:08:26I still think we're going to the playoff.

00:08:27And finally, they got exposed by Michigan State the other night.

00:08:30And it is over.

00:08:31And now you're firing everybody.

00:08:32So that's fine.

00:08:33However, you're right.

00:08:36Ryan Day is a joke right now.

00:08:38Ryan Day is the biggest joke in college football right now.

00:08:41You talk about a team that has lost their starting quarterback.

00:08:43Okay, you lost your starting quarterback.

00:08:45It gets hard out there for some teams.

00:08:47And some teams don't have backups.

00:08:48But you're Ohio State.

00:08:49You've got five-star after five-star after five-star.

00:08:52And you lose your quarterback so your defense stinks now?

00:08:55You lose your quarterback and your run game stinks now?

00:08:57You can't have any toughness?

00:08:59Jeremiah Smith's yelling at everybody?

00:09:00Look, you're up 14-0 against a team who's also in their backup quarterback, by the way.

00:09:06Oregon's been through tougher crap this year than Ohio State has.

00:09:09They're on the road.

00:09:10And they absolutely thumb you in the eye for three-and-a-half quarters, two-and-a-half quarters,

00:09:14whatever it is, and destroy you in your own home field.

00:09:17It's embarrassing.

00:09:17And as soon as his talent advantage goes away, and as soon as it gets tough,

00:09:22Ryan Day and his team fold.

00:09:24And that is pathetic.

00:09:25And I've got to say, I've been living in this bizarro world for, like, three to four years

00:09:30where I honestly wake up and I'm like, am I the only guy with eyeballs?

00:09:34Am I the only guy with a brain?

00:09:36Am I the only guy with common sense?

00:09:38Am I the only guy who's seeing what I'm seeing?

00:09:40I'm trying to take the—because I like the rivalry.

00:09:43I've said it.

00:09:44I like the rivalry.

00:09:45I'm trying to lead these Ohio State fans to water, and they won't drink.

00:09:50I'm like, you guys have absolute fool's gold with this coaching staff.

00:09:53This guy had a fluke, gimmicky little run.

00:09:56What is he, 6-5 in his last 11 with this roster?

00:10:00He's on the hot seat.

00:10:01Everybody at Ohio State wants him gone.

00:10:03They want him fired.

00:10:04And when he gets fired, I should get reinstated.

00:10:07Trust me, I sent a couple texts to the powers that be.

00:10:11I said, when this guy's gone, I'm right back in there, right?

00:10:15So we'll see, because his clock is a-tickin'.

00:10:18They probably wouldn't make a 2014 playoff either.

00:10:21Well, don't you think Ryan Day might leave on his own terms?

00:10:24He might do it himself instead of having the embarrassment of getting fired?

00:10:28You think he's going to quit, or what do you think he's going to do?

00:10:30I'm insinuating maybe he would take, like, another job or an NFL job if something opened up instead of getting

00:10:36fired.

00:10:36Who's going to hire this guy as an NFL job?

00:10:38They still look at him like a national champion winning coach, whether or not we think of him so lowly

00:10:42as irrelevant in this situation.

00:10:44I'm just giving the hypothetical.

00:10:46He has no—maybe they'll hire him to sweep the floors in an NFL facility.

00:10:51All I know is their quarterback got hurt, right?

00:10:54They've given up 71 points in back-to-back weeks to USC and Oregon, two teams that looked dead in

00:10:59the water a month ago.

00:11:00Yeah, that's what happens when you pay, what, $40, $45 million.

00:11:04You have a bunch of guys outside of Jeremiah Smith who are, again, paid happy with the paycheck, and they're

00:11:08soulless mercenaries.

00:11:09They don't care about the team, the program, the rivalries.

00:11:12And, again, you go look at the talent that this team has and loses, like, well, you have Reese on

00:11:20defense and you have Stiles on defense.

00:11:23You—when you have a million guys getting drafted in the front first round, again, as I've said, I could coach

00:11:31this team to 10 wins, 11 wins.

00:11:32So it's exactly what I've said.

00:11:35Nothing has proven me right.

00:11:37And there is also—I get a lot of people—Dave, you said Michigan would make the playoffs.

00:11:41Dave, you said—first of all, I said if they ran the table, they'd make the playoffs.

00:11:45If everyone's being honest here, because I can't remember—we're on a bunch of shows.

00:11:49I was pretty clear I thought there was a good chance that we were in trouble against Michigan State.

00:11:54I was whispering into microphones.

00:11:55Yeah, we did the trust tree.

00:11:57Remember the trust tree last week?

00:11:58Yes, we went into the trust tree.

00:12:00We did, Brandon.

00:12:01I know, Brandon.

00:12:02I know you want—

00:12:02Randy, you did say he wanted to—

00:12:03You shut up!

00:12:04That was actually the most vulnerable Dave's ever been on the show.

00:12:08Right, all right, okay, all right, I don't listen to him when he's—

00:12:10We did, Brandon.

00:12:10I literally said, we've got to get into a trust tree.

00:12:13Yeah.

00:12:13I whispered, I go, I am very, very nervous.

00:12:16He said that.

00:12:17Like, I have eyeballs.

00:12:18But if you want to—you want to criticize Dave Portnoy for having the heart bigger than Secretariat

00:12:24and trying to fight and scratch for his team all the way till the bitter end, then guilty as charged.

00:12:32But I have eyeballs, and I know what's going on with this Michigan team.

00:12:36We can't score.

00:12:38It's a—I said it in the Bryce Underwood.

00:12:40I defended this guy the entire time because I have eyeballs.

00:12:45Nobody can do anything in this offense.

00:12:48There's no pass protection.

00:12:50Nobody's open.

00:12:51They can't run the ball.

00:12:52Tommy Carr, not his fault.

00:12:54We don't know what we have.

00:12:55This Jason Beck, holy cow, I go through and, you know, I'm watching these memes, and they're hilarious.

00:13:03But a lot of them, I'm like, is this true?

00:13:05Is he really on the Al-Qaeda payroll?

00:13:08Like, I don't know.

00:13:09That's how awful this guy is.

00:13:12So, I have a stat on Michigan Coach.

00:13:15Weird stat.

00:13:16Since 1959, Michigan coaches are 1-8 in their first Michigan State game and 6-2 in their first Ohio

00:13:21State game.

00:13:22Do you only want to win both with Sharon Moore?

00:13:24Yeah, listen, I knew that.

00:13:26And Sharon Moore would still be there if he didn't hold a butter knife to the intern's neck.

00:13:30That's fine.

00:13:30But he wasn't doing the job either.

00:13:32The problem is this is the worst offense not only ever at Michigan, like, in the history of college football.

00:13:41And, by the way, Jason Beck, I know this.

00:13:45We give Brandon Walker this big, shiny new contract, right?

00:13:49If he's so bad and so awful that he has to quit two days into it, he wouldn't ask for

00:13:54that money.

00:13:54No.

00:13:55No.

00:13:56Jason Beck should not take a penny of this deal.

00:14:00You have no pride.

00:14:03That's robbing.

00:14:04That's stealing.

00:14:05That's jail.

00:14:06Whittingham, you shouldn't have a buyout.

00:14:08I think there was as well.

00:14:09I think there was a slight compliment in there.

00:14:10He said you're a man of honor.

00:14:12Yeah, I think he did.

00:14:12I think he did.

00:14:13By the way, you're getting away, Scott Frey, with LSU and Lane Tiffin peeing down their leg in the fourth

00:14:19quarter.

00:14:19Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:14:19They were absolutely, you want to talk about a joke of an effort, being up 13-10 against Alabama and

00:14:25then immediately just exiting the field.

00:14:28Oh, but he did have a cool pregame walk with Angel Reese and Kevin Costner.

00:14:31I actually think that's where the joke of the effort started.

00:14:34They got Kevin Costner.

00:14:35Brought the circus to Louisiana.

00:14:36Smoked him.

00:14:37We're not talking about the celebrity walk, okay?

00:14:39Every man to a man, we have sworn off the celebrity walk.

00:14:43I'm with you, Liam.

00:14:44The mercenary crap's out of control.

00:14:46They all drive Range Rovers and G-Wags and they get pushed around on Saturday night when it means the

00:14:51most.

00:14:51It was an embarrassment.

00:14:52It was an absolute embarrassment.

00:14:54And I feel like, I told you all last week, I feel like the kid where I've been burned 10

00:14:59times.

00:14:59I keep grabbing the hot pan.

00:15:01I keep convincing myself it's going to be different this year.

00:15:03We're better.

00:15:04We're at home.

00:15:05We're going to embarrass him.

00:15:06And we lost 14-16.

00:15:08Did you yell a lot?

00:15:09Yes.

00:15:09Obviously, dude.

00:15:10I had strep throat all weekend.

00:15:12I've been yelling all weekend.

00:15:13I've been getting after the Tigers.

00:15:15It was awesome until the game itself.

00:15:17And look, there is no.

00:15:19You had strep throat?

00:15:20Yeah.

00:15:20Pushed right through.

00:15:21And you just go to the stadium and give it to everybody?

00:15:23Yeah.

00:15:23No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:15:25To be clear.

00:15:26That's wild.

00:15:26To be clear.

00:15:27To be clear.

00:15:28Immediately after the show Friday, antibiotics.

00:15:30Got a shot.

00:15:31Got confirmation from the doctor that my contagion levels were good to go by kickoff.

00:15:36So I went through the correct process.

00:15:38Oh, no wonder that entire stadium sounded like a mojo.

00:15:41Yeah, I went through the processes.

00:15:42The point is, though, yeah, the point is it sucks.

00:15:45And we're just never going to.

00:15:46I mean, but guess what?

00:15:47Next time, 2028, we play Alabama, we'll whoop their ass.

00:15:50But Saturday sucks.

00:15:52I do have a question for Blutman.

00:15:53Yeah.

00:15:54I'd love to get Chesney on this show.

00:15:56Can we make that happen?

00:15:58Very easily, yes.

00:16:00I'd love to get him on this show, and we'll see where the show goes.

00:16:04I understand where you're going with that.

00:16:06Wait a second.

00:16:06We'll see where that show goes.

00:16:08I know exactly where you're going with that.

00:16:11Best of luck to you.

00:16:13I'm confident on my side.

00:16:16Better hope so.

00:16:17Wow.

00:16:18Look at that face.

00:16:19I'd love to speak with him.

00:16:22I'm sure he'd love to speak with you, too.

00:16:25Yeah, I'd love to have a conversation with him.

00:16:26I'm sure he's fairly happy.

00:16:27And to be honest, it doesn't even have to be on air.

00:16:28It doesn't even have to be on air.

00:16:29Maybe I'll bring some of my people on the conversation.

00:16:32And let's just have a conversation.

00:16:33Let's just talk.

00:16:34Let's be on the air.

00:16:35Let's talk some NFL football next with Coach John Gruden.

00:16:43Welcome back to Wake Up Barstool.

00:16:45We do it every single Monday.

00:16:46It's time to talk some NFL football with our guy, Coach John Gruden.

00:16:49Coach Gruden, what's going on, man?

00:16:51Last night, Bucs, Bears, primetime.

00:16:54Caleb overcomes four picks.

00:16:57Chicago wins again.

00:16:58What were your biggest takeaways from what you saw out of an uncharacteristic night for Williams?

00:17:04Yeah, I was kind of glad that game ended.

00:17:06You know, it was seven turnovers.

00:17:07It was back and forth.

00:17:10I give Caleb Williams a lot of credit, man.

00:17:12He overcame a lot of adversity and found a way to make plays at the end of the game,

00:17:18which is what the great quarterbacks do.

00:17:20But we all know you're not going to win a Super Bowl or a championship turning a ball over at

00:17:25that rate.

00:17:26You know, when you get hot early, sometimes it can have a negative toll.

00:17:31You start thinking, man, maybe I can make all the throws.

00:17:34I think he'll learn from this and improve from this in the long run.

00:17:38Yeah, and I have an objection with the way T-Bob phrased the question and even, Coach, the Bears overcame.

00:17:45Caleb didn't overcome anything.

00:17:46The Bears won that game.

00:17:49Their defense kept them in it.

00:17:50And listen, I was coming off a very similar thing.

00:17:53You have two quarterbacks I was talking up.

00:17:55I think I had almost won two in my power rankings.

00:17:57We did, yeah.

00:17:58Combined seven interceptions amongst the two of them, Drake May.

00:18:03And then on the other side, I saw a quarterback in Jordan Love, who looked like the second coming of

00:18:10Joe Montana against the Patriots.

00:18:12A good Patriots defense.

00:18:14Gonzalez, who I went into that game, really think it was one of the best cover corners.

00:18:20The game gets absolutely torched.

00:18:22I came away very impressed with the Packers.

00:18:25Very impressed.

00:18:26Did you watch this game, Coach?

00:18:28I did.

00:18:28I watched a little bit of it until it got out of hand.

00:18:31But you got to give Love credit.

00:18:33He's been doing this all year with no running game, a revolving door up front.

00:18:37They got a lot of backup offensive linemen.

00:18:40I mean, this guy's throwing fade away, no step, no look, bullets.

00:18:45I mean, some of these throws now, the coverage isn't horrific.

00:18:48The ball's laid in there perfectly.

00:18:50I used to coach the receivers for the Green Bay Packers.

00:18:53We've had a long history of Green Bay Packer receivers that we have drafted and developed.

00:18:59I could name 100 of them, from Sterling Sharp to Freeman all the way to Jennings and Jordy Nelson and

00:19:05Adams.

00:19:05But these two cats right here, Christian Gonzalez and Matthew Golden, good God, these guys can roll.

00:19:13You don't catch that many passes for that many yards against the New England Patriots in Foxborough unless you are

00:19:20really bad dudes.

00:19:22These guys went to New England, and they put a can of whoop-ass in that place.

00:19:27They did.

00:19:28And it was sad to see.

00:19:29A follow-up on that.

00:19:31You mentioned all these Packer receivers, Jordy Nelson.

00:19:34We got one of them hurt, Dobbs.

00:19:36Now, let's remember that the Patriots are decimated, but still, you get up 45.

00:19:42Is that just great drafting?

00:19:43I mean, there's different coaches, but it always seems, regardless of who the Packers slide in there, they have top,

00:19:50top-flight receivers.

00:19:51I think it's a combination of drafting quarterbacks, drafting receivers, and bringing a team together and helping them grow together.

00:20:00And I think it's been a real secret to their success.

00:20:04Not only Favre and Rodgers and Love in succession, but they have brought in young talent and developed those kids

00:20:12together, and they become grown men.

00:20:14And this is their time.

00:20:16It's really cool to see the development of Watson and Golden.

00:20:22Coach, when you look around the league, what's your other biggest takeaways from yesterday?

00:20:26Was there a team that shocked you or surprised you with what they did?

00:20:31You know, the 49ers continue to roll with a lot of guys out.

00:20:35I mean, they're still missing their arsenal of receivers.

00:20:39They do a great job.

00:20:40Kyle Shanahan has that team playing well.

00:20:42But the guy that really jumped off the screen to me is Joe Burrow.

00:20:46I thought Joe Burrow and his core, they went up to Madrid or wherever the heck the game was, and

00:20:52they put it on the Atlanta Falcons.

00:20:54And I was really fired up with some of the throws Burrow made.

00:20:58I mean, it was down the field, shots to chase, tight window, red zone throws to Tee Higgins.

00:21:04This is an offense that is in high gear right now, and I still have some concerns about their defense

00:21:10in terms of winning it all.

00:21:11But Joe Burrow's fantastic.

00:21:13And it was also great to see Miles Garrett.

00:21:16Good God.

00:21:17I mean, he comes back after seven weeks, three sacks, two of them in the fourth quarter.

00:21:23They're standing them up over the center.

00:21:25They're finding a candy bar on the offensive line, and Miles Garrett takes a big bite out of them.

00:21:31That was a huge performance by Miles Garrett after a long layoff.

00:21:37Go ahead, Brandon.

00:21:38Sorry.

00:21:39Hey, Coach.

00:21:39Brandon Walker, number one college football personality in the country.

00:21:42Are the New York Giants good?

00:21:45I think they are good.

00:21:47I'm worried about their quarterback.

00:21:48I tell you, they're the top of a weak division right now.

00:21:52I don't know what's going on in the NFC East, but their defense is surprisingly good.

00:21:58They have a new defensive coordinator.

00:21:59They're blitzing more than they blitzed in many years, and they can impact the game on

00:22:04that side of the ball.

00:22:05I hope McCarthy gets healthy.

00:22:07I think they've got to get him back in the lineup for them to be legitimate.

00:22:12But they won for the first time in Philadelphia in 13 years.

00:22:16So they have a winning attitude.

00:22:17They've got a culture established.

00:22:19And they have some really good, exciting young players on both sides.

00:22:24I really don't know why they don't wear those uniforms 24-7.

00:22:29They're so much better than the new ones.

00:22:31Both of them.

00:22:31There's so much.

00:22:32Both of them.

00:22:32I agree.

00:22:33And sticking with the Giants, I'm always curious, Coach, your perspective on this.

00:22:37When you're the head of a locker room, head of a team.

00:22:39Malik Neighbors was criticized by Greg Olson and the crew a little bit, saying they didn't

00:22:43like his body language, sulking after a touchdown to Isaiah Likely, didn't celebrate it enough,

00:22:49not happy he's getting the ball.

00:22:50He responded.

00:22:52He, and this is, I don't know that you had to deal with it when you were coaching, whether

00:22:58you were in this internet age where guys go to their phones and they start posting things

00:23:02on Instagram and Twitter and you deal with it.

00:23:05Is that something as a coach you care about?

00:23:08Would you be like, say whatever you want, you leave these receivers to themselves, or would

00:23:12it bother you?

00:23:13No, you care.

00:23:14It would bother you.

00:23:15We all have feelings.

00:23:16I mean, some of us are more sensitive than others, but I used to actually have our coaches

00:23:22coach body language.

00:23:24You know, when you're a quarterback and a receiver drops the ball, you don't want to

00:23:27have displays of emotion.

00:23:29You know, Rich Gannon, I used to call a play and Rich Gannon would be yelling at me and I'm

00:23:33like, God, everybody sees you.

00:23:35You don't like the play call, but you know, you got to really fight.

00:23:39I think displays of the motion.

00:23:41Like if you look at Brandon Walker right now, while I'm talking, you know, he's rolling

00:23:46his eyes and twisting his, you know, he's just, it's that body language.

00:23:50And I think, you know, even with your wife, when you're home and she tells you to take

00:23:54out the trash, you just can't come unglued.

00:23:57But you got to showcase some mental toughness and keep your composure.

00:24:02I have a Giants question for a coach.

00:24:04When John Harbaugh took the Giants job, one of the guys they targeted was Kenneth Walker

00:24:08and they keep trying to get Jonathan Taylor.

00:24:10They had apparently had a second and a fifth on the table, pulled the offer.

00:24:13Could you justify giving up a first round pick projected right now in the late twenties

00:24:17for Jonathan Taylor, who has two years left on his contract?

00:24:20You know, I'd have a hard time doing that if I was with the Giants after watching them

00:24:24a couple of weeks ago against Houston, they've got three good backs.

00:24:28I know one of them's hurt right now, but I'd have a hard time giving up a first and accepting

00:24:33a contract that big for a veteran running back.

00:24:37But Harbaugh obviously is pulling the right switches right now.

00:24:40If he thinks that that's the secret sauce to get them to the Super Bowl or to win a championship,

00:24:45he'll do it.

00:24:46But I don't see the Giants having that big of a need at running back.

00:24:50And that would be an insane move because the Giants, as coach said, they are at the top

00:24:55of a very weak division.

00:24:56But I don't think anybody's sitting here saying the Giants are a Super Bowl team and certainly

00:25:00not a running back.

00:25:01There's very few running backs who can be great without great, you know, offensive lines.

00:25:08Maybe you've got Saquon right now, Kenneth Walker, maybe there's so few and far between.

00:25:12So what are the Giants going to do?

00:25:14They're going to win the division, get bounced in playoffs.

00:25:15And give up a draft pick.

00:25:16He's not the difference between a Super Bowl team.

00:25:19He has signed for two more years.

00:25:21That is part of it.

00:25:22But I do think it is a hefty price to pay for running back.

00:25:25Coach, have you ever seen a division as good as the NFC North currently is?

00:25:30It's hard to believe right now.

00:25:31I mean, all four teams winning records.

00:25:35I'm going to find out a lot tonight.

00:25:37I think we all will about the Minnesota Vikings coming off that loss against Detroit.

00:25:41You know, can they put the wheels back on and beat Buffalo?

00:25:45I worry about Minnesota a little bit.

00:25:47Their offense is just, they're having a hard time doing anything.

00:25:50They only make 15 first downs a game.

00:25:53This defense is worn out.

00:25:54They're on the field too many snaps.

00:25:56But you got to admit, the Chicago Bears, after beating the Super Bowl teams in back-to-back weeks,

00:26:02finding a way to win last night, the Detroit Lions overcoming the Jack Campbell injury to go on the road.

00:26:09I know it was Miami, but they showcase a lot of grit.

00:26:13Jordan Love, the division has great quarterbacks.

00:26:16That's why I worry a little bit about Minnesota the most.

00:26:20I don't think you can just have a one-dimensional team.

00:26:23I think they're going to have to get a lot more offense.

00:26:26That's the team I want to see make a trade at quarterback.

00:26:28They laughed at me, which is funny because they get rid of all these quarterbacks.

00:26:32They laughed at me when they were 6-0 and I said they want to make the playoffs, the Vikings.

00:26:35We'll see who's laughing at the end of the season.

00:26:38They got a tough schedule coming up, that's for sure.

00:26:40Coach, I know you were in Knoxville Saturday getting your weekly dose of attention.

00:26:44But did you see Miami and Notre Dame?

00:26:47Yes, I see it, Coach.

00:26:48Did you see Miami and Notre Dame the other night where Miami is trying to tie the score.

00:26:53They throw it in the corner of the end zone.

00:26:55The guy grabs it, steps inbounds, and then it's knocked out at the end.

00:27:00A lot of people think it might be controversial.

00:27:02I don't know that I – I don't know.

00:27:04Having watched football the last few years, I don't know when I would have seen this be called a catch.

00:27:08But what did you think about this?

00:27:09Is it a catch and should it be a catch?

00:27:10That's a better question.

00:27:11No, I agree with you.

00:27:13Everybody talks about completing the process.

00:27:16You got to complete the process of the catch, and I don't think he did.

00:27:20I thought it was a catch, but he didn't complete the process of the catch.

00:27:24And that involves securing the football throughout.

00:27:28He didn't do that.

00:27:30Unfortunately, it was a deciding factor in this game.

00:27:33I agree with you, both of you.

00:27:37Anybody, including Mario Cristobal, who obviously is full of emotion and saying it's a bad call,

00:27:41that is not a catch 100 out of 100 times.

00:27:45It's like you're just not watching any degree of football.

00:27:48There's some where you can honestly be like, what are they looking at?

00:27:51But not that one.

00:27:53That one wasn't even close to me.

00:27:54You know, if you go back and watch that catch, that's a great teaching moment for coaches.

00:27:59I have pictures of Julio Jones, A.J. Green, some of the big receivers like the kid in Miami.

00:28:05You've got to take that ball out of the sky, and you have to viciously bring it back to your

00:28:11body to protect the catch.

00:28:13And I'm not saying he didn't do it, but there's a great teaching moment that he can learn from,

00:28:19and you've got to watch some of the best in the sideline 50-50 moments.

00:28:24Going with the teaching moment and X's and O's and blackboard, you would never teach in a situation like that,

00:28:31coach.

00:28:32Like, it's almost like a rebound, like he's bigger.

00:28:35If he doesn't bring that actually back to his body, he keeps the catch.

00:28:39If he just keeps it up high, that's also a catch.

00:28:42That would never be a teaching thing with a wide receiver.

00:28:45Well, we try to bring the ball back in where we can secure it, keep it out of the defensive

00:28:49back's reach.

00:28:51You let the little guys, it's like a rebound.

00:28:53Then you let the little guys get in there with those claws, and that's what happened.

00:28:56But if he's high, he keeps it – I guess it makes sense, but he has such a height advantage

00:29:00that little guy's not getting up there.

00:29:02Yeah, well, that's –

00:29:04Maybe I just revolutionized the position.

00:29:06You may have, Dave, but I will say this, because I know you've got T-Bob sitting in there, and

00:29:10you've got yourself.

00:29:11I heard you guys, you were a little sour on your college football teams this weekend.

00:29:16I've got to tell you, Tennessee, that environment there, you guys have been to a lot of stadiums.

00:29:22I see you guys at all these places, that place was freaking rocking.

00:29:27It looked insane.

00:29:28I mean, I couldn't hear.

00:29:29I have a headache still.

00:29:30That place was absolutely off the chains, and they got a great defense.

00:29:36Heupel's done a heck of a job, and man, did we have a blast.

00:29:39You like those uniforms?

00:29:41I don't.

00:29:42I'll tell you.

00:29:42I didn't like them at the beginning, but now I'm wearing all black.

00:29:47I'm going to wear all black for the rest of the year.

00:29:48I love it.

00:29:49It's kind of like the Raiders and Tennessee merging together.

00:29:53God, I love Rocky Top.

00:29:57We've been there, and I would say for me, it was a top three night environment that I've ever been

00:30:03to.

00:30:03I think those uniforms, you can flush them down the toilet.

00:30:06It's like I don't like when traditional schools start getting all crazy on me.

00:30:11We were at another, what I would say, top three, and I don't know where places.

00:30:15We were at Notre Dame.

00:30:16That was my first time at Notre Dame.

00:30:17Shout out Augie's Locker Room, this old vintage store that has a museum in it and all the Newt Rockne's

00:30:24stuff.

00:30:24This place, talk about a special place, and that's coming from a Michigan man.

00:30:28That was an incredible, incredible environment from being there all the way through the crowd at night,

00:30:35the light show, the entry, everything you'd want out of Notre Dame.

00:30:39They delivered.

00:30:40But I would put Tennessee.

00:30:41They're right up there.

00:30:42There's a couple places we haven't been.

00:30:44I've never been somehow to Georgia.

00:30:46Don't know how that's possible.

00:30:48But for places we've been, environments, you're right.

00:30:51Tennessee's up there, and Notre Dame is certainly up there.

00:30:55No doubt.

00:30:56I grew up there.

00:30:57My dad coached at Notre Dame when I went to high school.

00:31:00So that's where I fell in love with football.

00:31:02And to follow Notre Dame up with Knoxville, Tennessee, you can see why I'm half crazy.

00:31:07But maybe we all need to meet in Knoxville in a couple weeks for the LSU-Tennessee game.

00:31:13Maybe we need to go.

00:31:14I'll give you a promise.

00:31:15So here's what we do.

00:31:17We need, we are planning our college football trip, and we're a little bit late because we got fired from

00:31:23the wake-up bar.

00:31:24So we have Georgia-South Carolina circled right now.

00:31:27That's in two weeks.

00:31:28LSU-Tennessee is that week.

00:31:30We have to talk to the schools, and we need them to give us places to go.

00:31:34South Carolina's dragging their feet right now a little bit and not committing.

00:31:38Notre Dame, shout out Notre Dame.

00:31:40They rolled out the red carpet.

00:31:41It's great.

00:31:42If you have a connection at Tennessee who can say, yeah, we'll give you guys a great spot.

00:31:46We'll flip.

00:31:47We'll go LSU-Tennessee.

00:31:48We'll have you there on the show.

00:31:50Let's see what type of clout you have.

00:31:53Okay.

00:31:53Let me see if I can work on that.

00:31:55I would love that.

00:31:57I would love to hook up with you guys.

00:31:58Bring Walker along.

00:32:00We'll be in a Kroger parking lot if Gruden's going to hook up.

00:32:02We can let him ring.

00:32:02He can ring that cowbell as we try to get a reservation.

00:32:05You can ring that bell.

00:32:07See if we can get a table.

00:32:10Coach Gruden, thank you so much for this one.

00:32:12Hey, one more on the way out.

00:32:13I know it doesn't have to do with college football.

00:32:14What would you do if you were the head coach of a team that they didn't score for 37 drives

00:32:18in a row?

00:32:19You saw that with the Chargers?

00:32:2237 drives.

00:32:22He's awesome.

00:32:23He's got to be hot.

00:32:24I would probably head up to the Smoky Mountains and get some moonshine.

00:32:27That's what I would do.

00:32:30There he is.

00:32:30Love you guys.

00:32:31Coach John Gruden.

00:32:31Let's try to make that happen, man.

00:32:33Yeah, we're in if you can make it happen.

00:32:35Shout out to Fox.

00:32:36Shout out to FS1.

00:32:37Incredible cause there.

00:32:38Brandon, there was a lot of great college football this weekend.

00:32:42Unfortunately, a lot of our teams may have us feeling a bit sad, but there were some very

00:32:46big winners.

00:32:47Who had the best weekend in all of college football?

00:32:50To me, I believe the biggest winner.

00:32:52And again, there were some great ones.

00:32:53Notre Dame, certainly.

00:32:54Utah, certainly.

00:32:55But to me, it's Georgia.

00:32:56Georgia goes on the road to a place to Ole Miss had won 26 of their last 27 home games.

00:33:01It's been a very tough place to play.

00:33:02I know a lot of idiots in my life that thought Ole Miss was a national title contender, even

00:33:07though their defense stinks.

00:33:08I have no idea what he was watching.

00:33:10And Georgia just walked in there.

00:33:11The game was over by halftime.

00:33:13They are clearly, when they're playing well, let me say it like that, they are clearly the

00:33:18best team in the country.

00:33:20They have the one hiccup where they just, coming off the Alabama game, they did not play well

00:33:24against Auburn.

00:33:24They turned the ball over too much.

00:33:25And they lost an inexplicable game.

00:33:27But when it's going good, they are the best team, because they're one of the only teams

00:33:31in the country that can play offense and defense.

00:33:33And that's what they did Saturday night.

00:33:34They just destroyed Ole Miss.

00:33:36Liam, when Gunnar Stockton plays like that, like, can anybody beat Georgia?

00:33:39Well, their success comes down to Mike Bobo's play calling.

00:33:42That's what it really comes down to.

00:33:43If he doesn't shoot himself in the foot, doesn't shoot the offense in the foot, doesn't get

00:33:46obsessed with the bubble screen, Georgia's chilling.

00:33:48They're far and away the best team in the country.

00:33:51Liam, you're UCLA Bruins.

00:33:53On a weekend where everybody's favorite teams in the company fell, you were maybe the only one

00:33:57who somehow survived the slaughter.

00:33:59Yeah, not according to Ben, but that's okay.

00:34:02Ty Diefenbach, tried to tell you guys we upgraded that passer.

00:34:06I know we lose a little bit of juice in the run game without Nico, but Diefenbach, eight

00:34:10completions for 303 yards, T-Bob.

00:34:13What is that?

00:34:14Yeah, you didn't know that?

00:34:16Eight for 303.

00:34:17Wait, what?

00:34:18Eight.

00:34:18Back-to-back-to-back.

00:34:19Is that Randy Moss on Thanksgiving?

00:34:22Passes resulted in touchdowns for Diefenbach.

00:34:25He had back-to-back 75 yards to A.M.

00:34:28Mizeau, whose brother starred the night before for Arizona.

00:34:31We thought, Dan and I thought the score app was glitching because we had Minnesota and

00:34:36we kept crawling back.

00:34:37And before we could even enjoy the Minnesota score, UCLA had scored again.

00:34:42UCLA, they've been number one in my rankings, which we're going to do for a while.

00:34:45I'm not sure they're the best team.

00:34:47I'm not sure they get many wins against the top 10 teams.

00:34:50But in an era and in the Big Ten where everyone's knocking off everybody, nobody's good, you

00:34:56have to tip your cap.

00:34:57You have to say, you know, they've had an incredible season no matter what because they just keep

00:35:02winning.

00:35:02This was an obvious hiccup spot for them at Minnesota, a team that plays very well at home

00:35:09and they handle their business.

00:35:11Number eight, I don't know which ranking.

00:35:12That's a joke.

00:35:14That's a joke.

00:35:14Any other team that is in the Big Ten that is 9-0 is the number one team in the

00:35:20country.

00:35:20This is just strictly reputation that they're that low, but nobody else has been able to

00:35:26do what they're doing in the Big Ten.

00:35:27So they should get their flowers as they stand.

00:35:30I have no idea what will happen with this team when they play another, if they play Notre

00:35:36Dame, if they play Jordan.

00:35:37I have no idea.

00:35:38Can they beat them?

00:35:38Can they not beat them?

00:35:39Well, because I have no idea.

00:35:40I mean, you've had talking heads get on national television and bring up, win three games last

00:35:46year and not being good in recent memory as a reason why they should be ranked lower.

00:35:50It's ludicrous.

00:35:51I think they're a top 10 team.

00:35:53I don't know how good they are.

00:35:54I do trust them defensively that they could go and compete with most teams in the country.

00:35:59I think Georgia would roll them over.

00:36:01But defensively, I think they got one of the best corners in the country in Scooter Jackson.

00:36:06I think they have one of the best linebackers, players in the country in Samuel Mosego that

00:36:10helps them a lot.

00:36:11They're very creative.

00:36:14Exotica defensively.

00:36:15Also, like, dude, they went at Oregon and at Minnesota, two teams who don't lose home

00:36:19games and they'll never get credit for it, which is fine.

00:36:22I see people trying to...

00:36:22They get no credit in Oregon.

00:36:24They get no credit for the Oregon one.

00:36:25They're trying to say, oh, Oregon turned the ball over seven times.

00:36:29Excuse me, brothers and sisters that are watching this football.

00:36:31How do you think they turned it over seven times?

00:36:34Yeah, you force them to.

00:36:35That's a fair point.

00:36:36We're the only ones to talk about.

00:36:37I mean, again, I think what I just said, I'll reiterate one more time.

00:36:40If there is any other team in the Big Ten that's 9-0, they're probably number one in

00:36:46the country.

00:36:47Brandon Walker, are we back in on Texas?

00:36:49They seem to have maybe found something in saying, hey, let's run the ball.

00:36:54Let's not always ask Arch to close out these games in the fourth.

00:36:57And ever since they've done that, it's led to them closing some of these games they were

00:37:01losing earlier in the year.

00:37:02Yeah, well, they have two three-point losses, right?

00:37:04Like, it's not like they've never come out and just gotten beat.

00:37:07Now they're going on the road and winning tough games.

00:37:10Missouri's not an easy place to play at.

00:37:12Yeah, I'm completely back in on Texas as a playoff team.

00:37:15Am I back in on them as a national title team?

00:37:17No, I don't think Arch is good enough for that.

00:37:19But they're a playoff team that will be a very hard out for somebody as long as they

00:37:23get through this weekend.

00:37:24If they get through this weekend, it might be home free for those guys.

00:37:27This was a game, if you watched it, and I'm not sure any of the calls were the wrong calls.

00:37:32I think most of the calls were the correct calls.

00:37:35But inches, I mean, the Missouri coach, Drinkowitz, was going bananas on the sideline.

00:37:40It seemed like every bounce, every call went against Missouri.

00:37:44I've said this for a while.

00:37:45Yeah, I do think Texas is a playoff team, and I am not ready to hand the trophy over

00:37:52to Georgia like these guys.

00:37:53I think anybody can beat anybody in this playoff.

00:37:56I really do.

00:37:56I think anybody can beat anybody.

00:37:58All I'm saying is when teams are at their max and Georgia has the highest ceiling, Georgia

00:38:04has the best team if they play there.

00:38:07Now, obviously, on a week-to-week basis, you can get beat by somebody.

00:38:10But if we're just ranking the teams based on their ceiling, Georgia's the best by far.

00:38:13I mean, they got clipped by Auburn.

00:38:15Nobody on this planet would have seen that coming.

00:38:17Is Oregon entering the picture again on the way out here?

00:38:21I don't think they were ever out of here.

00:38:23I think you guys called their death weights.

00:38:26But how many times can they reenter the picture?

00:38:28They lost to Illinois a couple of weeks ago.

00:38:30How many times can they reenter?

00:38:32I agree, dude.

00:38:33That's what I'm asking you.

00:38:34If they go 9-3, they're going to have wins against USC and at Ohio State.

00:38:40Oh, they're in.

00:38:41At three loss, it's the same thing I was saying about Michigan when I was just hoping against hope.

00:38:47If they run out, you're going to have to include the Big Ten.

00:38:50There's going to be Iowa.

00:38:52But are they going to be able to pass UCLA, Indiana, and Iowa?

00:38:56That's three.

00:38:58Well, not UCLA, clearly.

00:39:01Iowa.

00:39:02Possible.

00:39:04Illinois thinks a complete blip on their schedule, but they would have wins at USC and at Ohio State and

00:39:10Boise State, which gives them a playoff win.

00:39:11I think you could have four Big Ten teams.

00:39:13Yeah, but then you've got to account for the SEC, too.

00:39:15Yeah, because now you've got Texas, two loss, Tennessee, two loss.

00:39:18They're looking good.

00:39:19It's crowded.

00:39:20It's crowded right now.

00:39:21We haven't passed that hour to one next.

00:39:24I got it.

00:39:27Welcome back.

00:39:28We've got Barstool here on FS1.

00:39:30Some news, Brandon, in the college football rink.

00:39:33It looks like NC State is going to hire Phillip Rivers to be the head coach.

00:39:40Do we have a lot of great examples of the former players jumping straight to the head job working out

00:39:45lately?

00:39:45Because I feel like this is a trend that has not borne a lot of fruit.

00:39:48No, I don't think so.

00:39:50And I think I know what their mindset here is.

00:39:53They believe in this NIL era all they really need are the buy-in from the fans and the buy

00:39:59-in from the boosters

00:39:59to get the money flowing back in the program, and that's how they'll build it back.

00:40:03And the way to get the boosters' money and the fans' money is through bringing home the favorite son, Phillip

00:40:09Rivers.

00:40:09I think discounting the fact that he's never coached in a college football game, he's never recruited,

00:40:15he's never done any of that is very, very, very stupid.

00:40:17So they're trying to go after half of the equation.

00:40:20They're going after the money and the fans without regard to the coaching acumen, and I think that's crazy.

00:40:26He has coached high school for whatever that's worth.

00:40:28He's 6-6.

00:40:29Oh, is that? I didn't know.

00:40:30Well, their starting quarterback apparently got hurt this year.

00:40:33Deshaun Jackson won eight games in his first year at Delaware State, but they're 3-3 this year.

00:40:39I mean, Prime kind of, you know, Prime was great at Jackson State.

00:40:42First on the scene in Colorado, that's gone disastrous.

00:40:45Michael Vick won one game in his first season.

00:40:47Well, we're talking about starting at Tennessee State.

00:40:50Michael Vick seemed to have some sort, I saw a video of him.

00:40:53Yeah.

00:40:53A confusing video in which he said they were in the victory formation, and he called in the victory formation,

00:41:00took his headset off, and they ran a play, fumbled, and lost the game.

00:41:04Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:41:05Bad weekend for this to be the headline for NC State on Monday.

00:41:10I saw Jericho Cautry's going to be in the mix for an assistant coaching job.

00:41:15Yeah, but you can't just take all the names from your past and put them in.

00:41:18Like, there's a reason college coaches are college coaches.

00:41:21Brad, are you telling me the kids, the high school recruits right now, don't know Jericho Cautry?

00:41:25No, I'm just saying.

00:41:27Like, I get the idea.

00:41:29You're exciting the fan base by bringing them all back and looking on the sidelines, but you can't just do

00:41:33that.

00:41:33You have to have actual coaches to coach these kids up.

00:41:37Their coaching search was Philip Rivers from the jump and then a fake interview with Russell Wilson,

00:41:44who's probably most known for Wisconsin.

00:41:46I don't understand this at all.

00:41:48Yeah, no, I mean, I agree.

00:41:50Maybe bring him in as an assistant for your new coach, but as the head guy, he's never been at

00:41:54this level?

00:41:55Is a guy like that, is he willing to be the assistant?

00:41:57I mean, you're NC State, I do think it's a little bit strange, but I don't think it's the craziest

00:42:03flyer in the world.

00:42:05I mean, if you're Philip Rivers and you can recruit because of your name and you surround yourself with great

00:42:12assistants,

00:42:12maybe you got a shot.

00:42:13I don't think it's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

00:42:15I mean, what else are you going to do?

00:42:17How else are you going to turn it around?

00:42:18I mean, like, this trend will continue to go.

00:42:21So, like, if USC were to lose Lincoln Riley in some capacity, Carson Palmer is going to be one of

00:42:26the first guys that they call

00:42:28who's coaching high school in SoCal right now.

00:42:30I mean, UCLA hired Deshaun Foster a couple of years ago, and then immediately they had to hire,

00:42:34immediately they had to go hire this guy.

00:42:37Yeah, yeah, yeah, and now they, these, on and out of the picture.

00:42:39Yeah, like, there's a reason.

00:42:41Don't get you an up-and-coming coach.

00:42:43It's a 50-50 proposition at best there, but you might hit a Chesney.

00:42:47You might hit a Cignetti.

00:42:48Jason Eck is out there.

00:42:49Someone go get Jason Eck.

00:42:51Yeah, true.

00:42:52All right, guys, there it is, hour number one.

00:42:54We've got a lot of NFL talk coming up, hour two, and we've got a couple of top ten lists.

00:42:58Brandon and Dave are going to give you their top ten college football teams.

00:43:02Did any new Super Bowl contenders enter the mix?

00:43:04It's all coming up next here on FS1.

00:43:07Don't go anywhere.

00:43:07Grab yourself a coffee.

00:43:09Lock in for hour two.

00:43:10Philip Rivers isn't even going to get a nice state quarterback, because they're just going to go with Gunnar Rivers.

00:43:19Welcome back to Wake Up Arsenal, guys.

00:43:21Every single Monday we do it.

00:43:22Both Brandon and Dave bring you their top ten teams of college football.

00:43:27Now, we've seen these lists at times be very far apart.

00:43:31I feel like recently we've seen them come together.

00:43:33Let's look what it looks like this week.

00:43:35Dave, take it away.

00:43:37So, I've had UCLA number one now for a couple weeks, and they've done nothing to take that away.

00:43:43They keep winning, and they keep winning fairly easily.

00:43:46Utah has been up there undefeated.

00:43:49A huge win in the Holy War.

00:43:51Bear Bachmeier, just crucial turnovers killed them.

00:43:55Utah was a great game.

00:43:56Utah jumped out big.

00:43:58BYU came roaring back and a bunch of turnovers.

00:44:02An absolute, by the way, pleasure, a fiesta for the eyes of that game.

00:44:07The red versus the blue just works.

00:44:11Georgia is my number one, one-loss team.

00:44:13So, they get the three.

00:44:14Notre Dame, I think I had them in the second half of the top ten last week.

00:44:19But you beat the number one team in the country.

00:44:22You bolt up there to four.

00:44:24Huge win.

00:44:24They have SMU, so another big game for them this weekend.

00:44:28But they should be in the playoffs now.

00:44:29Now, they're a national title contender, no doubt.

00:44:32Indiana continues one loss right there.

00:44:36Miami, I actually think Miami is a little bit of a winner this past weekend.

00:44:41Because it looked like for a couple minutes there, they were going to get absolutely boat

00:44:44raced and get blown out of the building.

00:44:46And then you really start to question this Miami team because they haven't beaten anybody.

00:44:51They've had a couple Houdini escapes.

00:44:54But they came roaring back and could have won that football game.

00:44:57And I think reestablish themselves when they're focused and ready to go.

00:45:01They can beat anybody.

00:45:02Tennessee looks good.

00:45:04Bama, you can argue Bama should be above Tennessee.

00:45:06I've had people been saying that.

00:45:09Or Texas, excuse me.

00:45:10They want it.

00:45:11These three SEC teams, listen, you won't argue them 7, 8, 9 in any order.

00:45:16I can hear arguments.

00:45:18And I said last week, I don't know what to do with Wake Forest.

00:45:21Wake Forest played Merrimack this week.

00:45:23Merrimack, I don't even think, is an accredited high school team.

00:45:27And they beat them like what you'd expect.

00:45:29They beat them by 70.

00:45:31Nobody's been within like 30 of Wake Forest in two months.

00:45:34So I don't know what to do with Wake Forest.

00:45:37I guess they'll have their chance to stake their claim in the ACC championship.

00:45:42And if they win that, they go.

00:45:44So there it is, top 10.

00:45:46All right, Brandon Walker, your turn.

00:45:48Yeah, very similar, except I do believe Georgia to be the best team in the country.

00:45:51So I have them at number one.

00:45:53I have Utah at two, UCLA at three.

00:45:55So those two undefeated teams come in.

00:45:57I also, like Dave, put Notre Dame up at number four.

00:46:00I got Alabama five.

00:46:01Alabama, I know they lost at home to Georgia.

00:46:04And then the next week, both Alabama and Georgia had the hangover after that game.

00:46:08They both lost.

00:46:09I just think they're really good.

00:46:10They go on the road to LSU.

00:46:11They go on the road to Kentucky.

00:46:12And they're killing these teams in the second half.

00:46:15So I got them there.

00:46:16Texas, I believe in them very much at six.

00:46:19Miami, I don't drop them much.

00:46:21I did drop Indiana.

00:46:22If you look at Indiana this weekend, the teams that they've beaten went 0-8 this weekend.

00:46:27Their overtime wins against Minnesota, their overtime wins against Michigan, not aging well at all.

00:46:33Nothing on this resume is aging well at all.

00:46:35So I dropped Indiana down to eight.

00:46:37I've got number nine, Tennessee.

00:46:39And I also don't know what to do with the 10 spot.

00:46:41I have Texas Tech 10 and Wake Forest 11, even though Texas Tech could have very easily lost Saturday night

00:46:46when West Virginia was in town.

00:46:48And we will be at a Texas Tech game.

00:46:51We're going to Texas Tech at Oklahoma State, I believe, as an 8 p.m. kickoff.

00:46:56College football show, first time ever in Stillwater.

00:47:00That is this coming Saturday in a huge game in the Big 12.

00:47:04Very excited about going to Stillwater.

00:47:06Never been there.

00:47:07That's going to be great.

00:47:08Brandon, maybe the only thing that somebody could point out here, they get upset about Tennessee obviously dominating Alabama in

00:47:15Knoxville and yet coming in significantly lower here.

00:47:18Yeah, and they followed that up by going to South Carolina and losing to a team they shouldn't have lost

00:47:21to.

00:47:21So, like, I know that head-to-head you want to honor it when it's even, and I understand that.

00:47:27But that is a pipe dream at best.

00:47:28Because these teams play 12 games.

00:47:30They don't just play one game.

00:47:30If we were ranking these two teams based on how they played in Knoxville that Saturday, yeah, I'd rank Tennessee

00:47:35over them.

00:47:36Otherwise, Alabama's been exceptional on a week-to-week basis outside the loss to Georgia.

00:47:41So, I got them up there.

00:47:43And you start at this point in the season, if you want to start playing the string game, like when

00:47:49you're looking for, like, a serial killer and everyone put the strings in the mouth,

00:47:53you can start doing that with every team.

00:47:55Well, this team beat that team, yeah, but that team beat this team because there's a lot of cross-pollination

00:48:00at this point.

00:48:01And it's also just watching the teams, right?

00:48:03Like, Tennessee has an excellent defense.

00:48:05Yeah, top five.

00:48:06And they can run the football.

00:48:07It's not explosive, but it just wears you down, it wears you down, it wears you down.

00:48:11Their quarterback is bad, and they can't throw the ball.

00:48:14Alabama can do everything.

00:48:15Well, I guess they can't run the ball that much.

00:48:17But Keelan Russell's fantastic, and their defense is fantastic.

00:48:19Well, and, I mean, at this point, guys, Caleb DeBoer, like, we're surrounded with big-name coaches that don't have

00:48:25great records in the biggest moments.

00:48:27He's been fantastic.

00:48:28You look at his record against top ten opponents, I think it's like eight and two or something at this

00:48:32point.

00:48:32Nine and O off a bye week.

00:48:33Nine and O off a bye week.

00:48:35Look at what he's done against Lanny's greatest.

00:48:37And I hate that I'm the one that had to suffer it this weekend, but, like, it wasn't that this

00:48:43game, the final score is not necessarily indicative of how it went on a play-to-play basis.

00:48:49But the better coach team, Alabama, won every single high-leverage moment Saturday night.

00:48:55So that's what it is, right?

00:48:57Like, LSU, early in the fourth quarter, scored a touchdown to take the lead 13-10.

00:49:00Yeah.

00:49:01And they had been threatening to take the lead all day because they were the better team through three quarters.

00:49:04But that didn't matter because they got in the fourth quarter, and Alabama absolutely dominated them when it mattered.

00:49:09Dominated them.

00:49:10Now, again, like, I will say, if you want to use Brandon Walker's logic, like, who has Indiana beaten?

00:49:17They went 0-8.

00:49:18LSU hasn't beaten one good team this year.

00:49:20Not one.

00:49:20LSU's not.

00:49:21They've won this season's what?

00:49:22Texas A&M?

00:49:23Yeah, we have no good wins.

00:49:25We have not.

00:49:25It's the middle of November.

00:49:27We beat them.

00:49:28Yeah, so...

00:49:28But I don't have them ranked highly.

00:49:29What are you talking about?

00:49:30But no, but this, when you bring Alabama all the way up, you know, like, they killed an LSU or

00:49:37beat an LSU team on the road, and they were a six-point underdog.

00:49:40That was just a missed line.

00:49:42I mean, LSU has done absolutely nothing on the field to deserve anybody's respect, if they're being honest.

00:49:48Well, LSU's played three good teams, and they've lost to all three good teams.

00:49:53And they got out code bad.

00:49:54They paid $100 million to end up, maybe not even just in the same place, arguably an even worse place.

00:50:02And there's no excuse, like, after what Cignetti did in this NIL era, the goal for Lane given here in

00:50:07year one, it was always playoffs.

00:50:09You know what happened?

00:50:10And anything short of the playoffs, it was going to be a failure.

00:50:12Week one happened.

00:50:13No, no.

00:50:14Yes, week one happened.

00:50:15And they beat Clemson by 50 points, and everyone's like, holy cow!

00:50:19That was awesome.

00:50:20What happened was...

00:50:20Congrats to Clemson on bowl out of stability.

00:50:22What tore up LSU's season was Ole Miss winning the playoff game against Georgia last year.

00:50:27I fully believe when Lane took that job, he was taking Trinidad Chambliss with him.

00:50:30I fully believe he was taking Kiwan Lacy with him.

00:50:33And when Ole Miss won, and the transfer portal ended during that game week for the next game,

00:50:38Trinidad Chambliss had to stay at Ole Miss, and it has kind of ruined both their seasons.

00:50:42Yeah.

00:50:43It has not.

00:50:44I don't...

00:50:44Like, are you saying that because you have information, like, Lane off cameras?

00:50:48Like, this is what happened?

00:50:48Because I don't...

00:50:49No, I don't have information.

00:50:50Because I don't think that's true at all.

00:50:51I just don't think Lane Kiffin wanted to come into this season with Sam Levitt as his quarterback.

00:50:56And Sam Levitt being his quarterback...

00:50:58Sam Levitt being his quarterback is the reason they're not winning these football games.

00:51:02I disagree with that.

00:51:02Could have been DeMond Williams.

00:51:05Yeah, I'm taking on...

00:51:06What do you mean you disagree with it?

00:51:07You don't think Sam Levitt's the reason they're not winning games?

00:51:11Sam Levitt has been outright bad for LSU in these big moments.

00:51:16You can't put up 13 points at home versus Alabama.

00:51:19No, I mean, you ran 45 plays in Alabama territory.

00:51:22You scored 13.

00:51:23They ran 50 plays overall.

00:51:24Had plenty of end goals and nothing ever came to fruition.

00:51:27And do I have information right from Lane Kiffin?

00:51:28No, but I have a pretty good authority.

00:51:31Lane Kiffin thought he was taking Trinidad Chandler.

00:51:32Where does Lane Kiffin rank in the hierarchy of head coaches?

00:51:36I still have him pretty high.

00:51:38This has been an abject failure so far this year.

00:51:40Yeah.

00:51:41Yeah.

00:51:41He built Ole Miss from nothing.

00:51:43I agree.

00:51:44I still believe in the long term.

00:51:46But again, I also, if you're someone out there, you're an LSU fan,

00:51:50and you don't agree with this idea of preaching patience, you're right.

00:51:54You were never supposed to be patient.

00:51:57You paid all this money to get the most expensive roster in the country.

00:52:00You were supposed to make the college football playoff this season.

00:52:04You were supposed to win these big games this season.

00:52:07And again, three good teams, three losses.

00:52:09There is no being patient in 2026.

00:52:13There's no reason to wait and see.

00:52:15If Indiana could do it right away, if UCLA could do it right away,

00:52:19if Wake Forest could find a way to do it.

00:52:22Wake Forest has the lowest paid roster in all Power 4,

00:52:25and they're able to be in the playoff picture.

00:52:27There's no excuse for any top team.

00:52:29The only excuse that they could say is, well, we paid a bunch of kids a bunch of money,

00:52:33and then they didn't care about the program.

00:52:35That's on you.

00:52:36Find better high-character guys.

00:52:38Yeah, I agree that the patience thing is long gone.

00:52:42Well, I think Lane will figure it out there.

00:52:44Yeah, I do.

00:52:45But people have the right to be like this, 6-3, not what we signed up for.

00:52:48And bigger, it goes back to the Lane move to LSU in the first place.

00:52:52Because if Lane stays at Ole Miss, you're probably not having this transfer portal turnover

00:52:58where it feels like half that Ole Miss team did go to LSU and half stayed at Ole Miss,

00:53:04and you split up the two teams.

00:53:06They're probably still all at Ole Miss, and they're probably a national legit,

00:53:10even though I thought they were, a national championship contender.

00:53:13So, the move to LSU, I always thought, in today's day and age, is a parallel move.

00:53:19Like, he proved you can win a national championship at Ole Miss.

00:53:23He was right there.

00:53:24He was knocking on the door.

00:53:25So, you got to start over.

00:53:27Now, would I give, if I'm an LSU guy, would I give him more leeway to figure this out

00:53:33and get it than you would Kelly?

00:53:34Of course.

00:53:35Of course.

00:53:36It's natural to be disappointed.

00:53:37But I do think that 51-10 opener against Clemson, people are saying,

00:53:43this is a national championship.

00:53:45This is a national championship.

00:53:46The preseason odds were hovering around 17, 20-1.

00:53:51So, they weren't one of the top elite teams.

00:53:54I actually think I said I thought they were, like, sleeper teams.

00:53:57So, people weren't saying they were there yet, despite the roster.

00:54:01Can I also say one thing?

00:54:03Yeah, yeah, go ahead, bro.

00:54:04This is an Oregon situation, too, where they're not dead.

00:54:07I know we're killing them.

00:54:08I know we're burying them.

00:54:09Their next two games are against two lost teams ahead of them in the rankings.

00:54:12They play Texas at home and Tennessee.

00:54:14If, if, if they won those two, they would be the most attractive SEC 9-3.

00:54:19But they've shown nothing to tell you.

00:54:21But neither is Oregon.

00:54:23That's what I'm saying.

00:54:24Brandon's not saying that he expects them to, just that there is a path.

00:54:28I disagree.

00:54:29I agree.

00:54:30I do feel like Oregon was showing, was showing great stuff defensively and nobody wanted to

00:54:35care about because the offense was such a train wreck.

00:54:38Nobody, nobody thought when they went and lost Illinois that Oregon could, could do what they, could do.

00:54:43Yeah, I think that's probably right.

00:54:44I, I like them to win against Ohio State.

00:54:46Do you guys see any value in these odds here?

00:54:48The odds are up here.

00:54:49This is the first time we've really seen separation.

00:54:52And if you're that sold on Georgia, plus 245 is not bad.

00:54:55Notre Dame plus 400.

00:54:57Bama plus 680.

00:54:58I think Miami at 8-1.

00:55:00That, that seems to have some value based on what I saw.

00:55:04I will continue to hammer Texas.

00:55:06Texas has been so good in the biggest matchups.

00:55:09They win big games.

00:55:11They win big games.

00:55:12And they win them a lot.

00:55:13And like, they're, they're doing, they're doing the thing Miami did last year where they

00:55:17figured out, wait, what if we run the ball?

00:55:19We don't put everything on Carson Beck's shoulder.

00:55:21We lean on our great defense.

00:55:23And Colin Simmons should be healthy by the time.

00:55:24Colin Simmons is going to come back.

00:55:26Like, Texas at 10-1 would be my play right here.

00:55:28Like UCLA, 33-1.

00:55:29I got that.

00:55:3033-1.

00:55:30You're going to get a rush.

00:55:31That's for sure.

00:55:32I got, I got the UCLA football, UCLA men's basketball parlay, which is plus 1-8-8-5-0-0.

00:55:42That is, I believe, $13 to win like $28,000 or something.

00:55:47Good luck.

00:55:48So we're in on that.

00:55:49How, how can we win?

00:55:50I don't like, I also have the Michigan-Michigan parlay, but I don't like how it looks.

00:55:55Yeah.

00:55:56Oh, no.

00:55:56No, I wouldn't imagine so.

00:55:57What about, what about Utah?

00:55:59We haven't talked a ton of Holy War yet.

00:56:01They jump out to the lead.

00:56:03Then Bachmeier and BYU come roaring back into halftime.

00:56:07Look at that crowd.

00:56:08Look at this game.

00:56:09Those jerseys are so good.

00:56:10It's a beautiful crowd.

00:56:11It's a beautiful game.

00:56:14Does anybody, I'll just say it.

00:56:16Does anybody believe Utah is winning three playoff games in a row?

00:56:19No.

00:56:20I don't.

00:56:21No, but I think that they.

00:56:22I think they're going to be the sacrificial Big 12 team this year.

00:56:25I don't think it's sacrificial.

00:56:26Like, I, I, is it hard to win, obviously, three games?

00:56:30Yeah.

00:56:30Can they win a game or two?

00:56:31Can they win a game in the playoff?

00:56:33Yeah.

00:56:33I think they.

00:56:34Yeah.

00:56:34I think, yeah.

00:56:35I think that they could present more mismatches and more trouble for a defense than people

00:56:41realize because the whole two quarterback thing that they do, I think is fascinating and

00:56:46really is, like, BYU was struggling in it for a bit.

00:56:49Look at the stat.

00:56:50Utah's quarterback.

00:56:51Did you see the catch that I'm saying here, man?

00:56:53Look at the stat, Blutman.

00:56:53Look at the stat.

00:56:55Since 2019?

00:56:55Utah's first win over BYU since 2019.

00:56:58You know what else is the first time since 2019 that the head coach wasn't Kyle Whittingham?

00:57:05I'm telling you, I think we got sold a lemon.

00:57:09Well, you, you have reacted.

00:57:11Caught a falling knife, dude.

00:57:12You've reacted.

00:57:13Oh, it's a falling butter knife.

00:57:14You've reacted plenty to sleepy Kyle Whittingham.

00:57:18He's made that face at Utah for the last five, six years, man.

00:57:22And they've been terrible.

00:57:24The way that they lost the BYU game last year, crazy, found a way to lose.

00:57:32I think I went to a used car dealership and they put paint and they put new tires and nobody

00:57:41checked the engine and we bought a lemon and we started going down the road and it just

00:57:47by the way, the guy was going to retire.

00:57:49We all thought it was a beautiful car, too.

00:57:51I thought it was an incredible car.

00:57:52I did, too.

00:57:53A lot of it was, a lot of it, there weren't a lot of cars left on the lot.

00:57:57That's fair.

00:57:58Yeah, but you're Michigan.

00:57:59You should be able to make cars be on the lot.

00:58:02Is that?

00:58:03Used to be the car capital of the world.

00:58:05Where they, where they make cars, guys.

00:58:08Oh, there it is, guys.

00:58:09The Dallas Cowboys.

00:58:12Oh, come on.

00:58:15Boy, disaster.

00:58:18Hey, this is Captain Lang.

00:58:20Here at NAVSTEP WSS, you can't fly without supply.

00:58:24Dave, I'm going to agree with you on a couple important things.

00:58:26We both stand for a country and we both stand for a team.

00:58:29Go Patriots!

00:58:31Hell yeah, dude.

00:58:32Shout out Captain Lang there.

00:58:34American Patriot right there.

00:58:35American Patriot.

00:58:36Wasn't a great day for the Patriots.

00:58:38But hey, it's the NFL.

00:58:40It happens.

00:58:40Brandon, you think we haven't talked enough about Drake May's day quite yet?

00:58:44He was awful.

00:58:45He was terrible.

00:58:45He was pathetic.

00:58:46Now, Caleb throwing four interceptions, I'm sure, is going to give Dave a little bit

00:58:50of leeway in this argument.

00:58:52A little bit of a way to come back on it.

00:58:54But they at least won the game.

00:58:55Drake May was, he was throwing passes.

00:58:57He could have thrown six interceptions.

00:58:59He was throwing some of the worst passes you'll let.

00:59:01Where is this to, Drake May?

00:59:03Like, he was throwing some of the worst passes you will see an NFL quarterback.

00:59:06That happened in the first drive of the game.

00:59:08They're immediately behind.

00:59:09He was outright bad.

00:59:11Now, I know every week the producers like to, you know, pillow fight with Dave and come

00:59:16up with great games for his feelings and play Drake or that.

00:59:19Well, let's play Drake or that today because he was awful.

00:59:21That's a great play.

00:59:21That was a great play.

00:59:22Look, he obviously didn't play well.

00:59:23And I thought Brady, who was announcing the game on this throw in particular, you've

00:59:27got to dart that in.

00:59:28You've got to paint him as opposed to fluff it.

00:59:31Here's his stats.

00:59:3221-38, 3-3.

00:59:34Terrible rating.

00:59:36He's not the reason they actually lost the game, though.

00:59:39Like, a couple of those interceptions, one, you know, there are different types of interceptions.

00:59:45The first interception, horrible, and set the tone for the game, you can argue.

00:59:49But if the Packers want to score 100 yesterday, they could have scored 100.

00:59:55He did pull them back a couple times within striking range, and the Packers come right

01:00:00back down the field.

01:00:01Christian Gonzalez, who has been spectacular since he's put on a Patriot uniform, absolutely

01:00:07torched.

01:00:08Never seen anything like it.

01:00:09So, yeah, Drake played bad football.

01:00:12He maybe could have played perfect football, and they still don't win this game because

01:00:16their defense just had no answers.

01:00:19Definitely a bad one.

01:00:20Now, you always, when your two best players don't have good games, Gonzalez and Drake,

01:00:26it's tough to win.

01:00:27We're still missing our one and two receivers.

01:00:30But again, this was, to me, more eye-opening.

01:00:32I think I actually, and I thought the Patriots would win this game, and I was live betting

01:00:38them the entire time, which hurt.

01:00:40But this was more impressive to me for the Packers.

01:00:45Like, the Packers, to me, stamped themselves as a legitimate Super Bowl contending type team.

01:00:51I've always been a Jordan Love guy.

01:00:53He's in a, I don't know where he was in my last QB rankings.

01:00:56I've always had him high up there.

01:00:58He's a great player.

01:00:59They can't run the ball.

01:01:01But there are, this division, to me, the Bears and the Packers are light years ahead of

01:01:07the Lions and the Vikings.

01:01:09So, it was a bad loss.

01:01:11And the Patriots, I look at this wild card standing right now in the AFC, the Patriots

01:01:16are the third wild card.

01:01:17And I, the only team that I can see being a legitimate threat, certainly not the Browns,

01:01:24it's certainly not the Raiders, certainly not the Ravens without Lamar.

01:01:27There's these three and five Texans who are somehow still sneaking around the chicken

01:01:33coop, as Lou Holtz would say.

01:01:36But this is a loaded, loaded AFC.

01:01:40I keep saying it.

01:01:41It didn't change my perception of the Patriots all that much.

01:01:45We played bad, but I think we got beat by a very good team.

01:01:48So, you mentioned Jordan Love.

01:01:49And yeah, the Packers have been fantastic, six and three now.

01:01:52What about the MVP race, right?

01:01:54Because Burrow's on fire right now.

01:01:56Josh Allen done what he does every single year, seemingly.

01:02:00Loves enter the mix.

01:02:01Caleb Williams.

01:02:02Brock Purdy.

01:02:03Because all the Niners do is they keep winning, seven and one now.

01:02:06Who's your, I mean, even Trevor Lawrence.

01:02:09Who's your MVP right now?

01:02:09And you didn't even mention Patrick Mahomes.

01:02:11And I watch this Chiefs team.

01:02:13That running back is electric.

01:02:18Kenneth Walker.

01:02:19Thank you, Dave.

01:02:22I get in this argument every single Tuesday with Big Cat and them.

01:02:27What do they say?

01:02:27He is a game-changing running back.

01:02:29All I want is to acknowledge that Kenneth Walker belongs in the Jameer Bajan tier.

01:02:34I'm not saying he's better.

01:02:36That's all I want.

01:02:37And every Tuesday we have this fight.

01:02:39And I was glad to see Kenneth through this.

01:02:41Watch it, Kenneth Walker, if you don't put him in that list.

01:02:43He, he, so you combine him with Patrick Mahomes, who's still, Patrick Mahomes is playing football.

01:02:50They've got to get healthy.

01:02:52Worthy went out with an injury.

01:02:53But this Chiefs team, I would not sleep on them for a second.

01:03:01If you take, in fact, if you take the Patriots out of the equation, because I'm always going to pick

01:03:05them to win the Super Bowl or the AFC,

01:03:07if I, you said, hey, Dave, you've got to take somebody to the AFC to go to the Super Bowl,

01:03:11win the Super Bowl, can't be the Patriots, I'm taking the Chiefs.

01:03:14You like them better than the Jags?

01:03:16I do.

01:03:17I mean, history would be proven right.

01:03:18I mean, the last, like, what, 15 Super Bowls, you're like the Patriots or Chiefs, and I'm like.

01:03:22I mean, I think the Jags are very good.

01:03:24But, I'm saying history would prove you right.

01:03:26No, but they've bounced back, and they, it's such an improvement with this running game.

01:03:30Holy cow, he's great.

01:03:32Yeah, I think he belongs in those talks, but, like, his lower body control and what he's able to shake

01:03:38off is absolutely otherworldly.

01:03:41And then their backup running back, Emmitt Johnson, is equally as good at forcing missed tackles.

01:03:47There's no wasted breath when you're facing them.

01:03:49You can't relax in the run game at all.

01:03:51I mean, there's no other, there's no other quarterback running back tandem that you would put ahead of those two,

01:03:56right?

01:03:57Mahomes, Walker?

01:03:58Uh, Alan Cook?

01:04:00No, for me, Cook isn't in the same.

01:04:02I don't know if Mahomes is, I don't think I think as highly as, uh, Mahomes as you.

01:04:10Wow.

01:04:10Goff Gibbs.

01:04:11Goff Gibbs is up.

01:04:12Alan Cook would be up there, but whatever, the point is.

01:04:14Purdy McCaffrey.

01:04:15You're still talking about it.

01:04:16Purdy McCaffrey?

01:04:16Yeah, I, I, I, I think, I think Goff.

01:04:18We can't, Goff had five fists.

01:04:21Listen, listen, listen, listen.

01:04:23What's up about this year?

01:04:24Listen, listen, I, I guess this is, I clarify something, and, and, and I don't like him, but I've lived

01:04:31through it, and I've been part of a dynasty.

01:04:33For you guys to just be tossing willy-nilly Patrick Mahomes, like, oh, Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes, uh, that is,

01:04:43we are talking some crazy lunacy.

01:04:47Patrick Mahomes has three Super Bowl rings.

01:04:49Yeah.

01:04:50What are we talking about?

01:04:51Well, we were talking about the combination, but you're, you're, you're.

01:04:54But he's so much better than the other quarterbacks.

01:04:56Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I, I understand.

01:04:57I won't push back too hard against that.

01:04:59Uh, I want Kansas City people to put, anybody on a treadmill right now in Kansas City, put a pin

01:05:04in that, that I defended the dynasty.

01:05:06I know that, I know that he's, he's had some respect.

01:05:08He's won three Super Bowls, and that's great, but in the year of our Lord, 2026, he's not a better

01:05:12quarterback than Josh Allen.

01:05:13He's just not.

01:05:14He's just not.

01:05:15Not a better quarterback than Josh Allen.

01:05:16I don't know that I agree with that.

01:05:17As we stand here right now, you think he's the best quarterback in football right now?

01:05:20I, I think you can argue for either one.

01:05:22I don't think Patrick Mahomes has played to the.

01:05:24I don't think Josh Allen, I don't think Josh Allen is playing the best football of his life right now.

01:05:28Probably not, but I don't think Patrick Mahomes has played to the level of best quarterback in football this year.

01:05:32I think Patrick Mahomes would be pretty good.

01:05:33And I think if he didn't have the three Super Bowls, you wouldn't even come close to saying that.

01:05:36No, that's not true.

01:05:37But that is also a big F, you know?

01:05:39Because he's, he's, he's, he's played.

01:05:41It's a huge F, but, but if we were just talking about 2026.

01:05:44Yeah.

01:05:44And you, you weren't worried about what he's done in the past and you watch what was happening on the

01:05:47field.

01:05:47I think Patrick Mahomes would not say he's the best on the field.

01:05:49I think Patrick Mahomes has looked spectacular.

01:05:51He's just not the best quarterback in the league.

01:05:52Patrick Mahomes is the only quarterback on record in the last 20 years with under five air yards in attempt

01:05:58in four straight games on 30 plus attempts.

01:06:00You can't throw a ball downfield anymore.

01:06:02Yeah.

01:06:03Like yesterday, he wasn't that impressive.

01:06:04That is, that, that, that to me means absolutely nothing.

01:06:08It's who do you have on your team if they're still moving, putting points up and running.

01:06:12That, I heard that.

01:06:12That, listen, I've heard that, what you just said, a check down merchant argument with Tom Brady.

01:06:18I like what he used to say about Brady.

01:06:19I mean, the point is they're winning.

01:06:21They're six and two.

01:06:22Of course they're winning.

01:06:23They're the Chiefs.

01:06:24But we're having a best quarterback in football.

01:06:25I know, but I'm saying, but I'm saying to Dave's point, if it came down to it and your favorite

01:06:31team had Mahomes lining up across you in a playoff, you'd be terrified.

01:06:36You're peeing down your leg.

01:06:37You're terrified.

01:06:37Yeah.

01:06:37I mean, Walker's acting like this is insane that I'm saying Mahomes is in the conversation.

01:06:42No, no, no, no, I'm saying, all respect to Patrick Mahomes, he is, what he has done in his career

01:06:47has been amazing.

01:06:48I think it is an insane statement to say, oh, play on the field in 2026, he has been the

01:06:52very best quarterback in football.

01:06:54Now, this is, this is an ugly thing that the producer is doing to me because most people aren't going

01:06:58to see the date that this was before last week.

01:07:01So Dave has dropped me number one, my two quarterbacks that combined 7,042 interceptions this past week.

01:07:08So the list has changed.

01:07:09Josh Allen hasn't played.

01:07:11I got Patrick Mahomes probably is up there one, and Jordan Love right now is probably sitting at two.

01:07:16Josh Allen at three.

01:07:18Joe Burrow's playing the best football of his career.

01:07:20Yeah, what do we make of Joe Burrow?

01:07:22Yeah, Joe Burrow, I have him at five.

01:07:24That's pretty good.

01:07:25I think Josh Allen is a little looser with the football.

01:07:29And maybe because, honestly, when you're watching all the games, he didn't play great against the Patriots.

01:07:36So I watched that game intently.

01:07:37And the game they lost previously, I think he's a little bit loose with the football.

01:07:42Yeah, he's dangerous.

01:07:42Is he the best scrambler beat every way?

01:07:44Yes.

01:07:45But I don't know.

01:07:46Right now, I think I got Mahomes number one.

01:07:48I may have to update this list so I don't get done dirty like this.

01:07:52Because you know the clickbait crowd, and the crowd wants to say, I don't know ball.

01:07:55They're going to take that.

01:07:56They're going to edit out the date, and they're going to make me seem like a fool.

01:08:00I'm saying if you put Mahomes at number one, the you-don't-know-ball crowd is going to run out

01:08:03of here,

01:08:04and they're going to be louder than they've ever been about you.

01:08:07Because you're just based on three Super Bowls and all that.

01:08:09In 2026, Mahomes is not the best quarterback in football.

01:08:13Oh, again, I'm not just saying this.

01:08:15I certainly think a reasonable man can argue that he is.

01:08:19I don't think that's the most talented team.

01:08:21They've got the running back.

01:08:22They don't have explosive – when he needs first downs, when he needs plays,

01:08:27he gets it 99% of the time.

01:08:29Didn't get it against Denver at the goal line, but not many people do.

01:08:32But he took them right down the field.

01:08:35There isn't – if you force – if I get Patrick Mahomes,

01:08:41and I need the Super Bowl tomorrow, there's not one ounce of me is like,

01:08:45man, I wish I had this guy instead.

01:08:46Instead, I love who I ended up with, and I'll go win a game.

01:08:49I think you're putting an enormous amount of disrespect on Patrick Mahomes' name.

01:08:53And by the way, I saw the same thing with Tom Brady.

01:08:56Tom Brady was very kind of similar for a long time,

01:08:59where he would stack up Super Bowl after Super Bowl after Super Bowl.

01:09:02People would say, I want Peyton Manning.

01:09:04I want Aaron Rodgers.

01:09:06I want this guy.

01:09:06It's like, the guy who keeps winning Super Bowls isn't your guy?

01:09:10Like, Tom Brady won six.

01:09:12He had – he won three, and then he had the delay, and he came back and got more.

01:09:16There's no accident.

01:09:17You don't win three Super Bowls in this league by accident.

01:09:21You have to be a Hall of Fame first ballot number one quarterback, which Mahomes is.

01:09:26He is all of those things.

01:09:28He is all of those things.

01:09:29He is not the best quarterback in football right now.

01:09:32Well, look, let's talk about a guy that is vying to be the best quarterback in football,

01:09:35and that's Dak Prescott and the Cowboys.

01:09:37They avoid disaster on Sunday.

01:09:41They're down bad, looking like they're somehow going to lose.

01:09:43Grants at the Dallas Cowboys on their fourth win.

01:09:46They're in second place in the NFC.

01:09:47The owners over there are taking notes.

01:09:48No one cares for the Dallas Cowboys.

01:09:49They end up scoring.

01:09:50They win late.

01:09:52We're supposed to talk more about the Cowboys.

01:09:54Is Jerry Jones against Clipboard Carly the worst matchup of announcers or vongers you've ever seen?

01:10:00Oh, I love Clipboard Carly.

01:10:01Clipboard Carly slander?

01:10:02Yeah, that's crazy.

01:10:03I'm just a national television brand.

01:10:04I'm just saying.

01:10:05Jerry Jones and Clipboard Carly in the building at the same time?

01:10:08Do you have a Clipboard Carly take?

01:10:09Sorry she gives a damn, dude.

01:10:11She's locked in.

01:10:12She's on the sidelines writing down notes.

01:10:14I want to see the notes from this game.

01:10:17Can you imagine if Jerry Jones had a headset on?

01:10:20At least they're not trying Daniel Jones.

01:10:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:24By the way, I hear that.

01:10:25Who wants Daniel Jones?

01:10:28Why is this all of a sudden a thing that everybody's talking about?

01:10:31They won't trade Daniel Jones.

01:10:32Who's asking for Daniel Jones?

01:10:33The Vikings, apparently.

01:10:34Good point.

01:10:35Good point by Brandon.

01:10:36I actually had the same reaction.

01:10:37You know how down bad you got to be?

01:10:41To say, hey, hey, let me pull up the phone.

01:10:44It's late night in my front office.

01:10:46You know what the real shame in this whole thing is?

01:10:49We're going to have to keep hearing about these stupid Cowboys because of this stupid division.

01:10:54They're not out of it.

01:10:55Plus 255.

01:10:56I mean, that's not out of it at all.

01:10:58They've got a very tough schedule, though, coming up.

01:11:00They still have a lot of – they have to play like the 49ers and Seahawks, I believe, still.

01:11:06Are the Giants the least convincing?

01:11:08I don't know.

01:11:09I understand what you're saying.

01:11:10I mean, they've got two wins and two losses.

01:11:13No, but after that, after that, they still have the Rams that have to play.

01:11:17I mean, it's the Giants.

01:11:19Are the Giants going to come back and be about 500, probably?

01:11:22Yeah, that is very tough.

01:11:23You're right.

01:11:24Rams, Jaguars, Commanders.

01:11:25That's like four tough games, four games they could win.

01:11:29Do you believe –

01:11:30Yeah, but they're already behind the eight ball.

01:11:31Yeah.

01:11:31Should the Jaguars be the favorite in the AFC right now?

01:11:36The AFC is so tight.

01:11:38Yes, I have no problem with them being the – I have no problem with them being the favorite,

01:11:42but I have no problem with the Chiefs being the favorite.

01:11:44I have no problem with the Broncos being the favorite,

01:11:47and I certainly have no problem with the Bills being the favorite.

01:11:50This is a loaded, loaded division, and you guys have been saying it.

01:11:55Joe Burrow guaranteed a Super Bowl this year.

01:11:57The Bengals were – they've suffered so many injuries, their defense so bad,

01:12:03but Joe Burrow is a play away from a Super Bowl.

01:12:06There's a lot in the Patriots.

01:12:08I mean, yeah, they're five and four.

01:12:10They look like crap yesterday, but if we lined up and play Green Bay tomorrow,

01:12:14I'd still think we're going to win.

01:12:15There is a lot of teams in this AFC.

01:12:17Oh, the Jets are in the hunt.

01:12:18This Bengals team may be better than the one to make.

01:12:20Oh, the Jets get in the hunt.

01:12:21The Jets are in the hunt, guys.

01:12:23Why is it because David Bailey hit Patrick Mahomes really hard yesterday?

01:12:26Why?

01:12:26Who's making the hunt graphic?

01:12:28I don't think anybody can go into Denver or Kansas City and win in the playoffs.

01:12:36Even the Jets?

01:12:38I don't know why the Jets are in the hunt.

01:12:40By the way, the Jets, I kind of gasped.

01:12:43As anybody else, you'd be like, they turn around.

01:12:45They got such a young team.

01:12:47They're – I don't even know how it's possible.

01:12:49They – if the season ends at A, they got three of the first ten picks in the draft.

01:12:54That's unbelievable.

01:12:55Insane.

01:12:56Nobody believes they're going to do anything.

01:12:58No, but credit to the Jets for innovating.

01:13:00They're using a tight end to do their kickoff now.

01:13:03Yeah, yeah.

01:13:04And then he kicked it out of bounds.

01:13:07That, by the way, I lost betting yesterday, but, like, that spread, nine and a half.

01:13:13That was bizarre at Kansas City.

01:13:15People still don't think Kansas City, I think, is kind of back to where they are.

01:13:20They had that terrible year last year, and I did say I thought the dynasty window had closed.

01:13:25I am fully back in on the Chiefs.

01:13:27All right, there you go, guys.

01:13:28Stock up, stock down.

01:13:30Coming up next here on Waga Barstool, who should you be investing in and divesting from?

01:13:35We'll let you know right here on WUB, live from Chicago.

01:13:44What's happening, y'all?

01:13:44Welcome back to Wake Up Barstool.

01:13:46It's time for Davey Day Trading Global.

01:13:48Stock up, stock down.

01:13:49Dave, take it away.

01:13:52So I'm going to start with a stock up.

01:13:54Rob Gronkowski inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame this past weekend.

01:14:00And, you know, you end up on, like, if you have TikTok or Instagram, certain rabbit holes that you go

01:14:05down.

01:14:06And if you watch Rob Gronkowski's highlight tape, the most dominant, best tight end of all time,

01:14:13it is not even close.

01:14:16I don't care what stats say.

01:14:18I don't care what anything says.

01:14:19This guy was an absolute monster.

01:14:22The plays he made, how fast he was, how big he was, how unstoppable he was.

01:14:28Just an absolute beast.

01:14:30Congrats, Rob.

01:14:32We have this video also of his induction.

01:14:34There's very few people who are as genuine, nice, and as big a meathead from beginning to end.

01:14:41Hasn't been changed by fame or fortune.

01:14:43This is Rob Gronkowski in a nutshell.

01:14:46Laughed out loud at his Hall of Fame speech.

01:14:49That's what it's all about.

01:14:51Literally picking yourself back up when you get knocked down and come back harder.

01:14:55Play after play.

01:14:57The discipline, the accountability, the resiliency.

01:15:02Camille said you can't say that word.

01:15:04Take it out.

01:15:04I just messed up.

01:15:06She jinxed me.

01:15:09She jinxed me.

01:15:10Well, you need that word because you need it because it's unmatched to play this game.

01:15:17Yeah, he fought through it.

01:15:19Resiliency.

01:15:20There we go.

01:15:21Resiliency.

01:15:22There you go.

01:15:23I picture him and Camille, his girlfriend, longtime girlfriend, big bar stool, telling

01:15:28them when they're practicing this speech, Rob, can't say it.

01:15:31Got to pull it out.

01:15:32But I mean, listen, I've had so many.

01:15:34You want to tell the true whether a person is a good person?

01:15:38I've heard so many stories about pro athletes and girls will be like, oh, this guy was super

01:15:42nice to me.

01:15:43It's like, well, yeah, you're hot.

01:15:44Every single guy has ever always said Rob Gronkowski is about the nicest person they

01:15:50met in person to everybody, no matter how successful, who you are, just a genuine nice

01:15:56guy in the greatest tight end in the history of football by a mile.

01:16:00All right.

01:16:00My stock up is simple, guys.

01:16:02The New Orleans Saints.

01:16:03Never has a team been more back.

01:16:06Gumbo weather's here.

01:16:07Calvin Banks is back.

01:16:08Jordan Tyson's back.

01:16:10Saints beat the Browns on Sunday in OT.

01:16:13Remember, they lost the game.

01:16:14Like this earlier this year where they had the two-boy conversion in overtime.

01:16:17They didn't get it.

01:16:18This time, the Browns tried to get it.

01:16:19They don't.

01:16:20Saints, three and five, back in the playoffs.

01:16:23There it is, guys.

01:16:24That's so pathetic.

01:16:25There it is, guys.

01:16:26Saints are back, baby.

01:16:27Let's freaking go.

01:16:28That's so pathetic.

01:16:29Who dat?

01:16:30Let's go.

01:16:31Bringing me back to life after that debacle.

01:16:34Saturday night in Death Valley.

01:16:36Can't believe he survived Shadur.

01:16:38Who's up?

01:16:38You've got to lead this conversation.

01:16:40Meek, you're up.

01:16:40Stock up.

01:16:41Ohio Tate's sugar intake.

01:16:43For those who don't know, Ohio Tate, he works with us.

01:16:47He made a punishment on Saturday for every point Oregon scores.

01:16:51If they beat Ohio State, he has to eat 10 peeps.

01:16:54He did this two years ago.

01:16:55This is Tate on Sunday.

01:16:56Oregon dropped 41 points on them.

01:16:58That's 410 peeps for Tate.

01:17:00He's 190 down.

01:17:01Why did Tate continue to do with 10 peeps per point?

01:17:04I don't know.

01:17:05If you do five peeps per point, no one bats an eye.

01:17:08Maybe he just wants to give himself diabetes.

01:17:10And he has Dan Landing making fun of him in the locker room.

01:17:13Not good to be an Ohio State fan.

01:17:15Not good to be Ohio State.

01:17:16Actually, we have the Dan Landing clip.

01:17:18Let's watch this.

01:17:18This was after the big win on Saturday.

01:17:24I don't know where to begin.

01:17:25I got multiple views to address, first of all.

01:17:27First of all, f*** you, Dan Landing.

01:17:28Dan Landing, I know you're going to see this.

01:17:29F*** you.

01:17:30I simply ask you not to run out in this situation.

01:17:36And that's why Dan Landing is the easiest stock up of all time.

01:17:41He's a 40-year-old head coach, and he wins games and acts online like all of us would after.

01:17:47He went into Columbus, and his first thought after a game was,

01:17:51you know, I talked to this guy Tate at Big Ten Media Days a few months ago.

01:17:55Let me troll him.

01:17:56Let me DM him.

01:17:57Let me make a reaction video to him.

01:17:59I got time to kill on a five-hour flight.

01:18:01I'm watching all of the peeps drama.

01:18:04Dan Landing handles his winning business like any Barstool employee would.

01:18:08He's an incredible troll.

01:18:09He'd keep you on the peeps run a lot.

01:18:11He was running up the score trying to get more peeps.

01:18:15Let's not forget it was 14-0 Ohio State in this game.

01:18:18An absolute embarrassment.

01:18:19The fake punt with two-edge rushers.

01:18:21Unbelievable drop-your-nuts moment for Dan Landing.

01:18:24Brandon Walker's title.

01:18:24Dave Portnoy, take it away.

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01:18:33AZ FUD, Paige Buechers broke up.

01:18:37Now, they were on a podcast talking about it on AZ FUD's podcast.

01:18:41Apparently, it broke up a year ago.

01:18:42But if you can't believe in AZ FUD and Paige Buechers, teammates in love,

01:18:49then I don't know what we can believe in.

01:18:51Yeah.

01:18:52You got close on both those names, I guess.

01:18:53You're like Jordan.

01:18:54I got it right.

01:18:55AZ FUD, Paige Buechers.

01:18:57Beckers.

01:18:58Beckers.

01:18:59But so we lost Jordan and Bill.

01:19:00We've now lost AZ and – yeah.

01:19:02Yeah, it's tough.

01:19:03Yeah, but Justin still got Madison, and they're killing it.

01:19:07Well, did you see Harbaugh's quote after they scored?

01:19:09You know, they went 37 drives in a row without scoring,

01:19:12and after the game, he said, well, that was a positive.

01:19:15So good?

01:19:15Oh, you're good?

01:19:16Yeah, there we go.

01:19:17I honestly think there's a chance she dumps him.

01:19:21Who, Beer?

01:19:22Madison Beer could dump Herbert.

01:19:25And take DJU?

01:19:27Just take – I mean, she is such a superstar on top of her field.

01:19:32Right now, he's the punching bag of the NFL.

01:19:35He's a loser.

01:19:36Brandon Walker, what do you got?

01:19:37My stock down is Lane Kiffin and LSU, but not for losing the game.

01:19:42You know, you go out there, you lose a game, you lose to Alabama.

01:19:44It's bad, but, you know, you can understand it.

01:19:47It's this bizarre tiger walk they're doing before the game.

01:19:50It's this bizarre – he's trying to do these celebrity red carpets or whatever.

01:19:55He's trying to be the – who's the singer guy?

01:19:58Yeah, Morgan Wallen.

01:19:59He's trying to do the Morgan Wallen entrance.

01:20:01He's got Shaq, Angel Reese, and for some bizarre reason,

01:20:04Kevin Costner in the tightest pants you'll ever see.

01:20:06I have no idea why you're doing this.

01:20:09This is something that is not necessary, and for a three-loss team,

01:20:13this looks silly and ridiculous.

01:20:14Lane's a great coach, but this is nonsense.

01:20:17He's walking him on Saturday.

01:20:18Yeah, yeah.

01:20:18I mean, that just still looks like Brian Kelly in the white pants.

01:20:21Yeah.

01:20:22And he got – he got Costner's on his phone.

01:20:24I mean, he's just texting.

01:20:25Angel fresh off a Game 7 loss?

01:20:29Okay, okay.

01:20:30I mean, she blocked me on Twitter.

01:20:31It's on her note.

01:20:33It's tough, too, because you've got, like, the main social media account.

01:20:36Kevin Costner's outfit.

01:20:37Oh, it's just different.

01:20:38It's just different.

01:20:39No, it's not.

01:20:39You're sitting here at three losses once again.

01:20:41Why is Kevin Costner there?

01:20:43He was in Baton Rouge all weekend long.

01:20:44I have no idea.

01:20:46Everywhere we went, it was like, oh, dude, Kevin Costner.

01:20:47Shaq, I get.

01:20:48Angel Reese, I get.

01:20:49Why is –

01:20:49Who's the other guy?

01:20:50The other guy –

01:20:51Paul Skeens.

01:20:52Paul Skeens and Dunn.

01:20:53Paul Skeens that you get.

01:20:53Yeah, those are all those you get, but, like, they're going to walk out every game,

01:20:57even when you lose, and now Kevin Costner is bizarre, and it doesn't –

01:21:01it's just an unforced error.

01:21:02I love it.

01:21:02I actually – I don't – I don't hate it when you're bringing LSU legends back.

01:21:09I, like, he asked me to do it.

01:21:10That I don't get.

01:21:11I would never do it.

01:21:12Like, I'm not an LSU fan.

01:21:13Why would I do the target?

01:21:14Why – I don't know Costner's association to them.

01:21:17So, I think if you really do legends, legends, you can kind of make it work.

01:21:22No.

01:21:22Nobody's ever wanted to be there less than Kevin Costner doing that walk.

01:21:25I think it's one of those situations where you just have to win.

01:21:29Because right now, whether it's the basketball goal on the sidelines,

01:21:33all the light shows, all the celebrity shows, when you're losing these games,

01:21:38people are pissed.

01:21:39Like, to a man, go watch Leonard Fournette's rant that he put up there

01:21:42about the celebrity rant after that game.

01:21:44Everybody's out.

01:21:45Everybody's out.

01:21:46It's Deion Sanders in Colorado.

01:21:47When it's working, it's great, and when it's not, people get upset.

01:21:50Yes.

01:21:51Yes.

01:21:51Neek, what do you got?

01:21:53Stock down to New Jersey Devils, because I'm not sure if anybody saw this.

01:21:57They traded for Connor Hellebuck, one of the best goalies in the league,

01:22:00and he's returning to Winnipeg on Tuesday.

01:22:04He's not playing in the game, even though he wants to play,

01:22:06and their GM put out the nerdiest statement you've ever seen, citing,

01:22:09however, in our estimation, playing in this game would potentially give us a reduction

01:22:13of our expected win probability.

01:22:16He's one of the best goalies in the league.

01:22:18Why are you saying playing him would hurt your win probability?

01:22:20Yeah, what do they even mean?

01:22:21This is all hoopla.

01:22:24This is a major stock up for me, Sonny Mehta, doing this.

01:22:27This guy is an absolute nerd.

01:22:29He's the GM of the Devils.

01:22:31He's a data scientist, a former professional poker player, a writer, an options trader,

01:22:35a musician.

01:22:37He's just a nerd, an analytics nerd.

01:22:39He's played, what, five of their last six games, Hellebuck?

01:22:42They're playing that Winnipeg.

01:22:44He's one of the worst teams in the league.

01:22:47Connor Hellebuck's biggest problem and why he hasn't had postseason success

01:22:50is because he's too taxed and plays too many regular season games.

01:22:54It's November.

01:22:55It doesn't matter.

01:22:56That all adds up.

01:22:57They got games with the Capitals and Canadians coming up.

01:23:00You need them for that.

01:23:01Tebop, get them.

01:23:02Take control, Tebop.

01:23:04Can I do a stock up?

01:23:05That was all garbage.

01:23:07Everybody shut up for a second.

01:23:08Shut up.

01:23:09Dave, go ahead.

01:23:09I don't know that we have any of the video I requested.

01:23:12I don't know if we got legal,

01:23:13but at the University of Michigan,

01:23:15it was the annual Mud Bowl before the game.

01:23:19This is SAE frat versus Phi Delta, I believe.

01:23:22And it raised $100,000.

01:23:24Here's, look at this.

01:23:26This is the first play of the game, by the way.

01:23:28Now watch the guy who catches the touchdown.

01:23:30He gets pushed by the guy in purple.

01:23:32I believe then he gets killed.

01:23:33The guy in purple absolutely attacked.

01:23:36Now this was play one of the Mud Bowl.

01:23:40There's all these clips.

01:23:42Every single play seems to end with a brawl.

01:23:46And I'm not talking like pushing and shoving.

01:23:48Full-blown punches to the back of people's heads.

01:23:51A absolutely violent game.

01:23:53And I'll tell you what.

01:23:55If Jason Beck and Kyle Whittingham had an ounce of the attitude

01:24:01and the motivation that these kids had in the Mud Bowl,

01:24:05we'd be undefeated.

01:24:06He should have to go play in the Mud Bowl

01:24:09and see what Michigan is all about.

01:24:11I don't even know how they're still allowed to do it,

01:24:13especially at a liberal school like Michigan,

01:24:15where they hate everything fun.

01:24:17But they raised $100,000 for charity.

01:24:20I believe Phi Delta won on the last play.

01:24:22And at least 17 guys look like they got sent to the hospital.

01:24:26Did they have the Mud Bowl when you were coming through?

01:24:29They did.

01:24:30So I was in SAE for a week.

01:24:32I was in SAE for the week.

01:24:34I know the handshake.

01:24:35I rushed.

01:24:36I obviously, all the frats I rushed, they're all like,

01:24:38Dave, we want you.

01:24:39You're the life of the party.

01:24:41I did not handle the hazing so well.

01:24:43So when it changed from rush and they're being nice to you

01:24:46to, hey, Dave, get me a beer,

01:24:49I was like, I think I'm out of this.

01:24:51I'm not built to get hazed.

01:24:53All right, there it is, guys.

01:24:54Stock up, stock down coming up next.

01:24:56Let's close out today's show.

01:24:57We've got a little Monday Night Football preview

01:24:59to get you some picks and get you out of here.

01:25:01Big one coming up tonight.

01:25:02More Waga Barstool live from Chicago.

01:25:10All right, welcome back to Waga Barstool.

01:25:12Monday Night Football night, guys.

01:25:13We've got Bills at Vikings.

01:25:15Dave, we have arguably the best offense in the NFL.

01:25:20I mean, statistically the most successful with the Buffalo Bills

01:25:23going against one of the most dominant defenses we've seen in years

01:25:27in what Flores and the Vikings are doing right now.

01:25:30Who do you think wins this sort of unstoppable force

01:25:34versus immovable object battle between those two sides?

01:25:37Maybe not the game as a whole,

01:25:38but like when those two sides are on the field,

01:25:41will Allen and the Bills reign supreme or the Vikings?

01:25:45So, yeah, I think it's impossible to not look at this game as a whole.

01:25:50And what I think will happen is the Vikings will have some success

01:25:54slowing them down, stopping them.

01:25:56Josh Allen's got to protect the football.

01:25:58But if the Vikings offense, because the Bills defense is not horrible,

01:26:02if the Vikings offense keeps going three and out short drives,

01:26:06you can't keep giving Josh Allen the ball.

01:26:09And eventually the Vikings defense will be worn down

01:26:13and the Bills will prevail.

01:26:15That's what I think is going to happen.

01:26:17So, for me, the bigger story is not will the Vikings defense

01:26:20be able to shut down Josh Allen?

01:26:22Because I think they'll have some success,

01:26:23but you can't just keep giving the guy the ball over and over.

01:26:26The Vikings offense can't keep the ball a little bit

01:26:29and can't sustain a couple drives.

01:26:31I just don't know how they hold up the whole game.

01:26:34I've said all along these are the two best records in football.

01:26:37I don't think the Vikings are going to make the playoffs in that division.

01:26:40I looked at their schedule.

01:26:41I thought they had a real chance to lose four football games in a row.

01:26:44This would be the second.

01:26:46So, I'm picking the Bills here.

01:26:48Based on that analysis I just gave,

01:26:50I just think the Vikings offense is so bad

01:26:53that you can't stand up giving the ball back over and over and over.

01:26:59Eventually, they're going to beat you.

01:27:00It's a great point on the offense,

01:27:02but Brandon, is the offense better with Carson Wentz and not Kyler Murray?

01:27:07It's 50-50.

01:27:08It's like six of one half dozen of the other.

01:27:10I think you still have the problems offensively that you have with Kyler Murray.

01:27:13They're just trying to throw everything against the wall

01:27:15and see something stick.

01:27:17I don't know.

01:27:17I'm with Dave.

01:27:18I think the Vikings are losing in the midst of a four-game losing streak right now,

01:27:21and tonight is the big one there.

01:27:23It's the only one at home.

01:27:25If they win this game, I'm just kind of selfish.

01:27:27I don't want the Vikings to survive this division.

01:27:29I want to see the Bears, the Lions, and the Packers in the playoff

01:27:32before I have to watch the Vikings offense in the playoff.

01:27:35Yeah, I kind of get that.

01:27:35I like the Bills.

01:27:36The only thing I'll say to counter that,

01:27:39if the Vikings do survive this division and win this division,

01:27:42that would mean you're looking at a Super Bowl-caliber defense,

01:27:46and they deserve it.

01:27:47Like, in this division, nobody's getting any cupcakes.

01:27:50So if they do survive this whole season, kudos to them.

01:27:53I just don't think they can.

01:27:55So if I had to tell you today who's going to get left out

01:27:59of both the North and the NFC West,

01:28:02who do we think it's going to be?

01:28:03Is it Rams-Vikings?

01:28:05No, I feel like it's the Seahawks.

01:28:06Oh, wow.

01:28:07I feel like I kind of like where the Rams are a little bit more

01:28:09than where the Seahawks are.

01:28:12And Vikings with that defense, it's just so hard to pick.

01:28:15I would say Lions probably.

01:28:18All right, my pick for tonight, look,

01:28:19I think if there's one area where maybe the Vikings defense

01:28:22is a little susceptible, it's against the run.

01:28:25They're just not elite there.

01:28:26James Cook's been on fire.

01:28:27I think the Bills run the ball enough to win this game on the road.

01:28:30We're all picking the Bills.

01:28:31I'm picking the Vikings.

01:28:32I think with Carson Wentz, they're at least going to take more shots

01:28:34down the field.

01:28:34The Bills have a 30th-ranked passing defense last time I checked.

01:28:38I mean, I think Carson Wentz is at least an upgrade over Kyler Murray

01:28:40in terms of moving to football.

01:28:41I think Kyler Murray's literally like a bottom five quarterback

01:28:44in football at this point.

01:28:45So I'll take the Vikings in a high-scoring matchup.

01:28:48How about 30-27 Vikings?

01:28:50I think any time you say we've got an upgrade with Carson Wentz,

01:28:54you're going down a bad path.

01:28:56Bill, Bill, Bill's in a splattering.

01:28:59Splattering.

01:28:59I don't know.

01:29:00Who's he been listening to?

01:29:01Boy.

01:29:02Who's he been listening to, Brandon Walker?

01:29:05Good Lord.

01:29:06Oh, my God.

01:29:07You need to come up with a cool term.

01:29:09A-2, blood tank.

01:29:10You're on my show.

01:29:11Unbelievable.

01:29:12Why don't you come up with it?

01:29:13Dave, thank you so much.

01:29:14Thank you so much, America.

01:29:15We'll be back with more Wake Up Barca tomorrow.

01:29:17We'll be back with more Wake Up Barca tomorrow.

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