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The trade deadline is fast approaching, and Washington faces a major dilemma on both sides of the ball.

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00:00You know, it's funny.
00:01We were just talking about it during the break,
00:04and we talked about it yesterday when Adam Schefter reported
00:07that Brandon Ayuk has filled his paperwork, filed his paperwork,
00:11and he's going to report to the Niners.
00:14They asked Kyle Shanahan about it.
00:16Did you see the quotes there?
00:17I did not see the quotes.
00:18He wants nothing to do with Brandon Ayuk.
00:20Should we bring out the Landon Brandon meter?
00:23You might have to.
00:24The only thing I'll say about it regarding Kyle Shanahan is
00:28he said, listen, I haven't thought about it at all.
00:31I haven't asked about him at all.
00:34Literally, I have zero.
00:35Why would he care about him?
00:36But he did say this.
00:38They did say, is it safe to say he will never play for this team again?
00:42And he said, there are no absolutes in life.
00:45He actually left a sliver of the door open.
00:50Yeah, but Shanahan, wasn't he also the guy who a few years ago,
00:54I can't remember the exact context, was asked about something.
00:57And he was like, I can't think about this afternoon.
00:59I can't think about tomorrow.
01:01We could all die.
01:02I don't know if I'm going to be here tomorrow.
01:03It's in that same realm.
01:05All right, so I've got the Landon Brandon meter.
01:08We haven't broken this out in quite a while.
01:10I've got it at 0% right now.
01:12Actually, it's probably at less than zero.
01:15Where should we move it?
01:17The commanders?
01:18Yes, Washington commanders.
01:19Less than zero.
01:20I'm keeping it right there.
01:22Even though they have a void in their wideout room with Terry gone, it's still less than zero.
01:29They have enough issues that they don't need to bring Brandon Ayuk into the mix.
01:33I'm surprised I haven't seen him around town.
01:35I mean, Ashburn is not that big of a city.
01:38Yeah, tell people what kind of the rumblings are that he's being seen around town.
01:42I don't know where he lives.
01:44We talked about the house that he purchased.
01:46Yeah, you don't have to give out his address.
01:47He's not living in that house because it's not fit to be lived in yet.
01:51It's probably 60% done, but he's living somewhere in that area.
01:57And apparently, he goes to Creighton Farm all the time.
02:00Creighton Farm's a great club, great golf course, huge club, great bar and restaurant.
02:05And apparently, he goes there and hangs out with all the members.
02:08Okay.
02:09And they love him.
02:11Remember, he did put on Instagram, we have the picture here.
02:14He said, I'm going to go crazy in Burgundy and gold.
02:18You can stamp that.
02:19Okay, that's fine.
02:20That was before he started calling.
02:22Here's what I need to know.
02:23Jay Daniels, a little ass boy.
02:25Here's what I want to know about him.
02:26In between all his trips to Creighton Farms and hanging out with the fellas, is he practicing?
02:33I asked the same question.
02:34Is he running routes?
02:35Is somebody that can deliver the ball throwing him NFL caliber throws?
02:41We don't know.
02:42I'm going to guess the answer is no.
02:44I'm going to guess he's not really working out.
02:47He might be in football shape, but I don't know.
02:50I don't think he's in football shape.
02:51He could be in decent shape.
02:52He looks like he's fit-ish, but there's no way he's in football shape.
02:56Here's a scenario for you.
02:57Would you consider if this week they got a win, so they upset the Rams?
03:02Yeah.
03:03By the way, Matthew Stafford icing his arm yesterday.
03:05He was expected to play, but banged up arm.
03:10Let's say Stephon Diggs went down for the season.
03:13Now you're down Stephon Diggs.
03:15You're down Terry McLaurin.
03:16No.
03:17You would get somebody that's been playing.
03:19I would scour other teams to see receivers that are out of favor.
03:24Guys who have been playing.
03:24That's when you go after Brian Thomas.
03:26There already is going to be so much distraction with coaching uncertainty, trade deadline issues.
03:34No.
03:35The ship has sailed here in D.C.
03:39There's just no way if you picked up IU, if Diggs went down.
03:42He hasn't played in two years.
03:44He's not going to have an impact.
03:45He's weeks away from being able to potentially help.
03:48And he also, by the way, I believe, just crossed the line.
03:52It just got too crazy.
03:54They don't need that.
03:55It's just, it's a clown show.
03:57Now, maybe somewhere else where they weren't as focused in.
04:00I don't know.
04:01Name a random team.
04:02The Colts or something.
04:03Or they weren't sort of locked in on all the IG speculation that was going on daily.
04:07They may not appear to that fan base as big a clown show as it would here.
04:13It would be a massive distraction.
04:16We were talking about a daily in July and August.
04:20I'm not sure they were in other NFL markets.
04:22I'm sure they were perusing.
04:23It's kind of, they weren't talking about, I mean.
04:25Not like we were.
04:26Yeah.
04:26Because he was talking about joining the Commanders.
04:28Yeah.
04:29Yeah.
04:31It is interesting, though, that there's an article on Commander's Wire.
04:37And I guess Ian Rappaport confirmed the speculation saying that, in fact,
04:42the Commanders were negotiating with the Giants for a deal for Deron Payne before the injury.
04:52Oh, so.
04:53I saw that.
04:54That's so the Commanders asked.
04:55Like, the one real trade piece that they have of value is Deron Payne.
05:00Yeah.
05:01And he snaps his foot in the half during the bye week.
05:04Well, but also, they're talking to a division opponent.
05:09Right.
05:10You know what?
05:10They would have traded him.
05:11That doesn't make any sense to me.
05:12That's a little weird, but they would have traded him to anybody.
05:15Well, obviously.
05:16If the package was right.
05:17How often does Harbaugh talk to Adam Schefter?
05:21It seems like there's a million stories about the Giants contacting teams with interest.
05:27So the Giants supposedly were in on Jeffrey Simmons.
05:31Yep.
05:31He gets traded to the Chicago Bears.
05:34Well, this one was from Rappaport.
05:35You're mentioning Deron Payne.
05:36Okay.
05:37Well, whoever he's talking to, it seems like Harbaugh's talking to a lot of people.
05:40Well, remember, somebody over there within the organization told us the reason why they
05:43leak to the national guys is that way they get information on the other teams.
05:47Right.
05:48You know?
05:48And they know what's going on.
05:49Because Rappaport will give other coaches information.
05:51Yeah.
05:52And you keep hearing that the Giants are interested in Jonathan Taylor.
05:57Yep.
05:57Yes.
05:58I saw Schefter saying, but look, at the end of the day, if Taylor's moved, only one team's
06:05going to get him.
06:05Who are the next running backs that are sort of under consideration?
06:09Because there are teams that want running backs.
06:11And for the life of me, I can't remember the one he mentioned.
06:14Derrick Henry?
06:15No.
06:15It wasn't him.
06:16I'm sure he is, but it wasn't him.
06:18It was somebody else.
06:20Was it Pollard?
06:21No.
06:22It was somebody else that he thought would maybe be the next one to go.
06:28Sorry for bringing that up and not knowing the answer.
06:30But I heard that yesterday when I was in my kitchen.
06:33There was some talk a couple days ago that Mikey Sanistro could be a potential trade option.
06:41And I know that a lot of people just poo-poo that right off the bat going, well, why?
06:44He's been terrible here this year, been limited to special teams duty.
06:49But remember, sometimes teams, if they have high grades on you coming out of the draft,
06:54you have a little success at times.
06:56He had a little success his first year.
06:57They might think, hey, you know what?
06:59Maybe there's something there.
07:00Kick the tires on him.
07:00Sure.
07:01I mean, look at Emmanuel Forbes.
07:02I don't think it's outrageous.
07:04No, you're not going to get anything for him.
07:06You might get a six-rounder.
07:08You get very little.
07:09But I don't think you can rule it out out of hand.
07:13And somebody might want to kick the tires on him.
07:16He was a high draft pick.
07:18And those type of guys will get other chances.
07:21And you see ex-redskins and commanders all around the league.
07:24You're going to see one this week if he's healthy.
07:27Cam Curl.
07:29Emmanuel Forbes flourished to an extent after he left Washington.
07:34You might see one with a big role in tonight's game in Chris Rodriguez.
07:38Correct.
07:38Facial Tootin hasn't practiced the last couple of days.
07:42And Rodriguez may get 20 carries tonight.
07:44He might be the starter.
07:44I know.
07:44I'm going to have to ask Dave if I should start him.
07:47I mean, if you have him.
07:48I got him in one league, yeah.
07:49If Tootin doesn't play, I feel like Dave's going to tell you to start him.
07:53Start him, yeah.
07:54I would guess.
07:56So, I don't know.
07:57Are you guys, do you feel any differently about the Rams game as we're approaching here?
08:03What are we, 72 hours away?
08:05I don't love the fact that the commanders have giant holes on their defensive line and the
08:11Rams come into this game with, as JP mentioned, Stafford icing his arm and managing arm soreness
08:16and all they've been doing over the last two or three weeks is handing the ball to Corum
08:20and Kyron Williams and not passing the ball a lot.
08:23Like, I can see that.
08:24And not having your starting defensive tackles both out for the year.
08:27Are you more concerned about slowing down the Rams, who are only scoring 24 a game,
08:35or are you more concerned about their defense and Aaron Donald potentially having Myles Garrett
08:41come back?
08:42Which one are you more concerned about?
08:43I'm more concerned about slowing down the Rams.
08:46This sounds weird to say.
08:48They're a rushing attack.
08:49They're known for generally throwing the ball all over you with Matt Stafford, but they've
08:54kind of pivoted off of that over the last month.
08:56Yeah, we've talked about this yesterday, that since Devontae Adams has gone down, they have
09:01leaned into three tight ends, running the football, and their offense hasn't been blowing
09:06people away.
09:06I mean, last week they didn't even have 100 yards in the first half.
09:09Yeah, the combo of the two running backs and the fact that tight ends routinely pick
09:15apart the commanders, and that's what the Rams are leaning into now, that gives me pause.
09:21I'm worried about that too, but I think that Washington's been pretty good against the
09:26run, so I think even with backups, they'll be pretty good because the linebackers will
09:29make stops.
09:30I'm just worried that the tight ends and Puka will go nuts.
09:33Shouldn't they be better against tight ends with Sonny Stiles?
09:36They play a lot of zone.
09:39I don't know if it's all on Stiles, but I mean, that's part of the reason he was drafted
09:43is because he allegedly can run and cover tight ends.
09:47They do play a lot of zone.
09:49True.
09:49So tight ends are getting behind him.
09:51Yep.
09:52That was one of the grossest things I've seen in a while.
09:55Was what?
09:55So Jason, thankfully, he did hit the cough button and he cleared his throat like he
10:00does a million times.
10:01I had a little phlegm.
10:02But then he spit it into it.
10:03It's all phlegm, yeah.
10:04All full of boogers.
10:06Yeah, that's what it is.
10:06It's crazy.
10:08But Craig, also, I said that one of the keys is you have to, Washington, or the Rams are
10:14pretty good at time possession.
10:15I think they're ninth in the league.
10:17Washington's probably middle of the pack.
10:19You've got to win time of possession.
10:21You've got to be on the field offensively.
10:24And you've got to force some turnovers, at least two of them.
10:26The only way, though, you win time of possession, though, is it means generally you've got to
10:30run the ball.
10:32They don't run it that well.
10:33Well, that's why Jaden's got to have about 70 yards rushing.
10:36Short completions.
10:38Short completions.
10:38You could have an attack like the Bears' first drive this past week.
10:45Last week, where they, against the Seahawks, had, I think, 18 plays?
10:4817 plays?
10:49So you can have a methodical drive.
10:51You could.
10:52Of course.
10:53And Jaden's good at that.
10:54You guys have been criticizing him for too many short completions.
10:57Obviously, he could do that.
10:59But I think you've still got to be able to pound the football.
11:02It's got to be a big part of it.
11:04The criticism is not that too many short completions is that there are opportunities downfield and
11:09he's either not throwing it or not seeing it.
11:12I know we're going to do a segment later based on Dan Orlovsky's take on risk-taking.
11:17That's kind of the criticism.
11:19It's the Kurt Warner critique.
11:21Yeah, I just think I really like Kurt and I think Kurt means well and all these guys mean
11:24well.
11:25But we'll see.
11:25I think he has a different approach than Kurt.
11:28Kurt's just always looking to have a home run ball every time with his arm.
11:32I don't think that Jaden plays the game that way.
11:35And I don't know that he necessarily should.
11:37In fact, I might even come around with cakes a little bit this week with teams making such
11:43a concerted effort to keep him in the pocket that this might be the week that they do have
11:49to draw up a couple runs for him.
11:50Let's go.
11:51Because, listen, I don't like that in general.
11:53But I think if he's not going to get five or six on his own, like last week I think
11:57he
11:58only got two, then we're going to have to create a couple other opportunities.
12:01He's got to have more than two.
12:02He's got to have more than two because that's that extra gear that takes him to that next
12:07level.
12:08And that's where he really dazzles.
12:11He could dazzle you with plays from the pocket, too.
12:14But, I mean, we all know that what makes him next level is the dual threat.
12:17Kyron Williams and Blake Corum combined are averaging five yards of carry.
12:21Yeah, they're both in the top 20 in the league in rushing.
12:25I don't know if it's going to be a problem.
12:26I don't know if you guys care, but it's always just kind of interesting to see where they
12:29are in the power rankings.
12:31And they're kind of all over the place.
12:33If you had to guess, what do you think their average power ranking is in terms of just kind
12:39of the culprits that are always kind of gauged here, like USA Today, Sports Illustrated,
12:45Walter Football, Yahoo, etc., Sporting News?
12:48I'll go 26.
12:49I was going to say 23.
12:50Jason nailed it.
12:5124.
12:52What do you think their low is?
12:55In other words, their 30.
12:5728.
12:58Okay, so you're thinking of it that way.
12:59Their low is 27.
13:01Okay.
13:01And their best is 22.
13:03Their best is actually 17.
13:05For whatever reason, Walter Football is size.
13:08I love Walter Football.
13:09I consume his mock drafts a lot.
13:11And that's up from last week.
13:13They had Washington at 19.
13:17So they got to be in that group that believes that this should be like a 4-3 team.
13:22It shouldn't be a whatever, 2-4-1 team.

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