00:00I think, more than anything, it's Ben Johnson's constant commitment to running the football.
00:08You know, I'm not the biggest Ben Johnson guy. I'm no Grant Paulson, I'll tell you that much.
00:13I mean, Grant Paulson, like, literally would, if he had a poster of Ben Johnson over his bed,
00:22he would probably wake up and salute Ben Johnson every morning.
00:27I, like, I tease, I kid, but that's, I mean, that's as honest as I can be.
00:33Like, I think, I think Grant loves Ben Johnson more than he loves Kyle Shanahan and or Mike Shanahan,
00:40who we both covered for a long time, and we both respect the bleep out of,
00:45and we both know how good of coaches they are.
00:48I think Ben Johnson is bigger in his eyes than any of those guys, and he worships that style.
00:55Okay?
00:57Ben Johnson is a hell of a play caller, hell of a play designer, hell of a head coach.
01:01I mean, I'll admit I was wrong on him.
01:05I wasn't sure that he would be the head coach that he's turned out to be,
01:10because I thought, you know, a lot of what he did in Detroit was based on talent.
01:16And I still believe that to be the case.
01:19You can be the best head coach, the best play caller in the world.
01:23If you don't have the talent, you're not making dinner.
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