00:00Something that really stuck out to me about Ben and about Caleb Williams is a personnel man, as you guys
00:06put it in the article,
00:07citing that as your source, saying that Ben, Ben Johnson, has done a fantastic job of not taking Caleb's playmaking
00:16gifts away.
00:18And Layla just brought it up, too, before we came into this segment, about how important Ben Johnson has been
00:25to Caleb Williams.
00:26Can you even, like, put a letter grade on that, or how do you answer that question?
00:31There it is. Done. Next question.
00:33It really is, because, look, that's the other thing you hear from people around the league, is there's respect for
00:39Caleb, there's respect for Ben,
00:41but then you put them together, and it's like, oh, God, you know, those two guys are working together now?
00:45And so there is that little bit of respect, I guess, that's there around the league for what those two
00:51guys are capable of.
00:52Look, like, we know, Mark, we saw it with our own eyes, heard it with our own ears, that Ben
00:57was on Caleb's ass on a lot of different things throughout the early stages of their relationship.
01:02And yet, as you mentioned in that quote that you referenced, he didn't try to turn Caleb into a robot.
01:06He didn't try to make him a player he wasn't.
01:09He's trying to get him to understand how to play the position while still allowing him to be that artist
01:14that he can be as a playmaker.
01:15And so far, so good, right?
01:17Now, all of a sudden, you've got the makings of something that's got great promise.
01:21Obviously, we know, hearing from Ben again last week, that the message all offseason is going to be, yeah, that
01:26was great.
01:27Last year was awesome.
01:28Wasn't good enough.
01:29How do we get ourselves one step up?
01:31And there's going to be a lot of steps and a lot of time investment that goes into that.
01:34Well, I know.
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