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Featuring Alejandra Olea, managing director, Americas, Believe; Marcela Moreira, country director of Believe Brazil; Bruno Duque, head of Latin America and Brazil, TuneCore, and Diego Douetts, Co-Founder of Sonar Music discuss the rise of Brazilian music and what the future holds for the genre.

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00:00When we look to expand Brazilian music outside of Brazil,
00:05I think one of the mentions that what Ale mentioned
00:07was doing featuring with Latin artists like Anit has been doing.
00:17Thank you to Believe for presenting this conversation on Brazil on the Rise.
00:22My name is Dan Reist.
00:24I am the Executive Editor of Business at Billboard.
00:27With me here, we have Alejandro Lea, Managing Director of the Americas for Believe.
00:34MC Kako, Brazilian artist on Sonar Music.
00:39Diego Duets, co-founder of Sonar Music.
00:43And Bruno Duque, head of Latin America at TuneCore.
00:48So, I wanted to start...
00:52I wanted to start this conversation by...
00:56Stating a couple statistics here.
00:58So, the IFPI said that last year, the overall global music business grew by 6.4%.
01:05Brazil grew by 14.1%, moving up to the 8th largest market in the world.
01:12On Spotify, music by Brazilian artists grew 24% year over year.
01:16Portuguese language music grew 26% year over year.
01:20And Brazilian funk, in particular, grew 36% year over year.
01:26So, Brazilian music is clearly booming.
01:30And my first question to you all is, why?
01:35Well, to start, I think those numbers are very impactful.
01:39I would also say the amount of artists earning more than 1 million reais a year doubled in the last
01:47three years.
01:47So, we can see that Brazil has a very strong domestic market, a very large audience, and a huge tapestry
01:55of sound.
01:56Brazil is many sounds.
01:58It's a continental country.
02:00We have sertanejo, we have forro, we have pagodi, we have urban.
02:03Within urban, we have hip-hop, we have rap.
02:05So, Brazil has grown a lot because of the increasing penetration of digital music, which allows people to find the
02:13music before there's any filters.
02:16So, it becomes even more organic.
02:20I think it has also grown because there is a big tapestry, so there's a huge variety of music out
02:27there.
02:28And there is more increasing collaboration with the rise of Latin music that also includes Brazilian sounds.
02:36So, now we see featureings, collaborations.
02:39Sometimes a sound can reach an audience even before the artist does.
02:44And the fact that Brazilian sounds are reaching more and more audiences has also created an audience that is hungry
02:52and has an appetite to understand where those sounds are coming from and go deeper into the analysis of where.
02:58So, I think there's more audiences finding new artists through digital streaming and recording music than ever before.
03:06And how would you describe the business in Brazil?
03:10I think the Brazilian music business, in contrast.
03:13So, I've had the pleasure to work throughout Latin America.
03:16And in contrast with a lot of the main markets in Latin America, in Brazil, we have a lot more
03:23independent players and entrepreneurs.
03:25And this is the case with Diego and Sonar Music.
03:29And that has allowed more labels to be pushing their artists and having more varied conversations with the DSPs, with
03:40the platforms.
03:40So, I think the variety in tapestry, the large audience, we're talking about a country with 200 million people.
03:49And the fact that digital penetration is still growing has contributed a lot to the growth of the music industry
03:57and also the importance of local entrepreneurs in understanding the audiences, understanding the artists,
04:04and creating a mix of what they want to hear and serving it to them.
04:10Yeah, I think that is a key word for the Brazilian market, which is diversity, right?
04:15When you look inside of Brazil, we have diversity in genres.
04:19We have diversity in culture and audience and everything.
04:23So, I think Brazil, I'm from Brazil, but I live in Mexico for the past six years.
04:28So, I was able to manage and understand what is the difference in nuances about both markets.
04:34But when I look at Brazil, I look at Brazil as, I want to say like it's a bubble, but
04:42in terms of like we're a big country,
04:45we're more than 200 million people inside of Brazil.
04:47And when we look at the music industry inside of Brazil, it's the largest music industry like across Latin America.
04:55This diversity influences a lot when you look for consumption and audience across the country.
05:02So, like Ale mentioned about the genres that we have, some genres actually have influences from Africa or vice versa.
05:09So, I think that's a point that Brazil is unique.
05:13When you look for Brazil, it's like the growth of Brazil, the rise of Brazil, funk as well.
05:18When you look at funk, we have influences for not only specifically from the Brazilian funk,
05:23but also from the U.S., hip-hop and rap.
05:26So, that's what I think is the key word for Brazil is like diversity.
05:32How would you say that the industry is changing or evolving to support and take advantage of the growth of
05:39the music?
05:41I think, one, we're much more receptive to other genres and new sounds.
05:48I'm very impressed by the amount of people that are just here in a panel talking about the rise of
05:52Brazilian music.
05:53I think, two, there is artists that are more willing to expose themselves internationally and do collaborations and featureings than
06:00ever before.
06:01They're not only now looking to the U.S. in English speaking, but they're also looking to regional Mexican, to
06:07Latin sounds.
06:08So, I think we have a much more, one, willing audience to hear new sounds.
06:14And two, artists that are eager to collaborate not only in Latin America, but even outside.
06:19We are doing featureings with artists from Russia, from France.
06:23So, I think that globalization of music has really helped for Brazilian sounds to become much more international, regional, and
06:33local than ever before.
06:35And definitely the digitalization of music.
06:38In an original perspective, we see an example of Kako here.
06:42He's been collaborating, like, with a lot of artists inside of Brazil, which help artists not only, like, to promote
06:50their own song, but reach new audience from other artists.
06:53So, that's one of the key things that, on the funk genre, they do a lot.
06:58Sometimes, there's, like, five featuring artists, four collaborations, whatever.
07:02So, I think this is really important to spread out, like, your music, your career, to other type of genres,
07:11or even other type of audience that other artists can bring to you as an artist in Brazil.
07:17So, as you don't see that much outside of Brazil, you don't see that much in the U.S., for
07:22example, or even in Europe, like, artists doing, like, five, six collaborations in one song.
07:27But usually, hip-hop and funk in Brazil, they usually do that.
07:30It helps a lot.
07:31It's, like, even can be a marketing strategy, or it can be, like, just, you know, I want to reach
07:36new audience or do collaborations because these artists, I like it, or other way.
07:43Diego, how have you built sonar music over the years?
07:47O crescimento da sonar, meio, muito orgânico.
07:50The growth of sonar was very orgânico.
07:53É, dando oportunidade para jovens periféricos.
07:56Giving opportunity for young people from the periphery.
08:00Uma produtora musical com um formato de incubadora.
08:04It's, like, a music production company as an incubator.
08:10Isso, acho que é o que fez a sonar crescer.
08:13That's what I think made sonar growth.
08:18And what do you need to do as a label to help support the growth of Brazilian music right now?
08:25How do you need to change?
08:28Acho que toda empresa, o selo principal é o que ele precisa de investimento, né?
08:33E a gente contamos com a Belive para isso.
08:35The label needs investment and we counted with Belive with that.
08:39Não só no investimento artístico, mas também na profissionalização dos colaboradores.
08:51E acredito que essa formação entre sonar e Belive foi o que ajudou com esse crescimento.
08:59And I believe this partnership between sonar e Belive, which was the key to help the label to grow.
09:07And Dan, if you allow me, what I would add to this is, it has been impressive, the job that
09:12sonar has done in the urban industry in Brazil.
09:15And this is what we're talking about.
09:17Strong entrepreneurs that know the local audience, that have a big relationship with their artists,
09:22that then partner with international partners to make sure that they also understand a bigger ecosystem
09:28and can together collaborate with investment, but also knowledge and connections in network.
09:36And what challenges are you seeing in the marketplace for a label like yours?
09:42Ah, o desafio, o desafio.
09:44Acho que hoje a concorrência do mercado é o nosso maior desafio.
09:50Manter essa audiência, ter o público voltado para os nossos produtos é o nosso maior desafio hoje.
09:57To keep the audience with us is one of the big challenges and the competition as well.
10:04So the music is not just growing in Brazil, it's growing around the world.
10:08How are you guys seeing this music spread around the globe?
10:13Well, I think that's a few factors that are interesting in the Brazilian music.
10:18If you go to top 20 on Spotify, top 20, you're not going to see not even like an English
10:25-speaking artist in the top 50.
10:29If you go, for example, to Portugal, top 50 Portugal, you're not going to see some Brazilian artists featuring there
10:36in the chart.
10:37We speak the same language, different accents, but you're not going to see the opposite, for example.
10:42You're not going to see Portuguese artists from Portugal charting in Brazil.
10:46So that's one thing.
10:50Another thing is like when you go to the live perspective, you see that Brazil have much more attractions in
10:56Europe than the United States.
10:58Because, for example, you can see Rock and Rio Lisboa.
11:02It's on the 11th edition.
11:04June this year was the 11th edition.
11:07And we had just one in the United States in Vegas in 2004.
11:12So, again, some totally different markets.
11:15Of course, there's much more Brazilians.
11:19I think in 1.9, the last census was 1.9 million Brazilians living in the United States and 1
11:24.8 across all Europe.
11:26So we have a kind of similarity you have when you look to like Brazilian audience outside of Brazil.
11:33But I think one of the key things is that when we look to expand Brazilian music outside of Brazil,
11:41I think one of the mentions that was doing featuring with Latin artists like Anita has been doing very well.
11:50And I think it's one of the key things as well when we look to expand Brazil, let's say across
11:57borders from Brazil or getting out of the bubble from Brazil.
12:01So I think that's one of the key facts.
12:03Of course, one of the things also, I want to keep point, before Despacito, when it was released, it was
12:12impossible to listen to Spanish music in Brazilian radios, right?
12:16Unless the majors put a lot of money in Shakira, Ricky Marty, etc.
12:21But after Despacito, we started listening also to Spanish music.
12:25So there's kind of this, Brazil has also exported music.
12:29At the same time, we are listening to music that is non-Portuguese.
12:33So I think Brazil is now starting to look outside of their own bubble, even though the local consumption is
12:40very, very strong.
12:41Like I said, the top 50 on Spotify in Brazil, it's only Brazilian artists, 1 to 50.
12:47So I think that's one of the key points that...
12:52And Kaka, how have you seen your music spread around the world?
12:55Yes.
12:56First off, I'd like to say thank you, guys.
12:58It's an honor for me to be here representing my country, my music, which is Brazilian funk music.
13:04I'm very glad to see that this genre of our song is reaching a lot of people.
13:10I think that music has a very special way to connect people beyond borders and language.
13:16So I'm very happy to see.
13:19I've been building my career in Brazil for several years.
13:22It's not been easy so far.
13:25So nowadays, when I see my music reaching people from other countries, it's very nice.
13:31It's amazing for me to see.
13:32Especially funk music, which is a very special, special rhythm, because it comes from a very real place.
13:41We sing about what we live, what we believe, our struggles and everything.
13:47And even when people didn't, don't understand what we're saying in some tracks,
13:54but they can feel the rhythm, they can feel the vibe of our songs.
13:58So it's nice.
13:59For me, it's nice.
14:00What opportunities has that opened up for you as the music has kind of spread beyond Brazil?
14:07Yet, I haven't done yet any collaborations with artists from other countries,
14:13but I had a lot of fans from other countries, like Angola.
14:17I have a big fans there, a lot of fans in Angola.
14:21Portugal.
14:22I have been to shows.
14:23I have been to a show in Paraguay, which is another country from South America.
14:30So I think there's a lot of things to come yet in the future.
14:36And why do you think that the music is resonating so well around the world?
14:41I think that was because that's what I was talking about.
14:46Like, it's really original.
14:49It's a rhythm that only Brazil has, you know, that Brazilian thing, Brazilian thing of ours.
14:56I think this is, for me, the most, the biggest reason for this reaching out, everybody.
15:06Okay.
15:07Sorry for my English.
15:08No, no, no, you sound great.
15:10Perfect English.
15:12And then, how can the Brazilian music business take advantage of some of this global growth?
15:19I could say one thing is to make, what we're seeing, again, is an audience that has the appetite,
15:25but also artists like Caco that want to go out, that want to reach out to different audiences.
15:31So opening opportunities like the one Latin Billboard has given us this week to sit down and talk about the
15:37rise of Brazilian music,
15:39making sure that not only executives, I believe, but executives in the industry as large
15:44are realizing the desire from Brazilian artists to really export their music to blend with different sounds.
15:52And I also think something very important that you said, Caco, which is with globalization also comes the sharing of
15:59the struggle.
16:00So funk music is talking about a local struggle, and I think a lot of people identify with the struggle
16:06because sometimes the struggles are not only local, they're universal.
16:09So I think that that is an important point.
16:12Yes, I think that despite all the recognition we've got with the Brazilian funk,
16:19we still have facing a little bit of social stigma in Brazil, yes, social stigmatization in Brazil.
16:30So despite all the recognition we've got, it still is a criminalized genre, you know?
16:41You think that the genre is viewed as more with a little bit of stigma, funk genre?
16:47Yes, we still face that struggle in Brazil, especially inside in some places, you know?
16:54So you think a wider adoption of the genre by the music industry, more people understanding that the genre is
17:00more than just,
17:02that it goes beyond the prejudices that it may have would be beneficial?
17:07Sorry?
17:08Do you think that people understanding better the funk genre and really not being so prejudiced against it?
17:14Yes, yes, yes, of course.
17:17We spoke about how artists can really kind of take advantage of this global growth.
17:25How is that also helping artists in Brazil as the music spreads?
17:29Well, again, I think that is a key factor is that when we look inside of Brazil,
17:34I think collaboration is one of the things that we see artists helping each other grow,
17:40especially in the funk.
17:42Those collaborations, again, reach new audience, reach new fans,
17:45and create for you as an artist, even though you're a beginner, mid- or mainstream artist,
17:50to help another growth artist in the side of Brazil.
17:56And also, I think it's now the diversity for artists to put the song out in the platforms, right?
18:06When we look like 10, 15 years ago, you only were able to do it through majors
18:11in case you have audience for that.
18:13Now, we have the independent labels, independent distribution companies,
18:17independent groups like Believe, which help these artists to put their music out
18:23and build their career, help them build their career.
18:26So, that's, I think, one of the main factors that Brazil is now have this, again, diversity
18:35in the portfolio of songs and genres.
18:38And, of course, in Brazil, being the largest market in record music revenue in Latin America.
18:46So, I think that's a couple of key points that I'd like to highlight inside of Brazil.
18:53What makes the country such a powerful environment for developing artists
18:59and developing businesses as well?
19:04One, I think...
19:05Please.
19:06No, no, no.
19:07I want you to answer this.
19:07I think, sorry, I think especially our culture, you know?
19:10I think that's the most special thing, I think, that impacts in the way we make music,
19:18the way we go in the studio, we put our heart in our songs.
19:22So, I think that's what makes us make the Brazilian funk so original, you know?
19:28That what is the biggest impact, I think, is our culture.
19:32The diversity of it, it's so varied, right?
19:36And it's so big geographically.
19:39And what challenges exist for the industry in Brazil as things continue to expand?
19:45I think the penetration of digital music, I think, is one that we need to continue looking at.
19:54The more penetration there is, the better.
19:56I also think increasing collaboration, the rise of independent labels, I think, will be something that we should be looking
20:04at.
20:05And being able to fund labels like Diego's Sonar is going to be very important.
20:14To maintain the plurality, to make sure that we continue to have a diverse marketplace and that there's no filters,
20:22that we can have different things.
20:25And again, having spaces like this to be able to show and talk about the variety and the importance of
20:33Brazilian music
20:34and how it's rising at the levels of Latin music, I think that would be important as well.
20:40Yeah, and I think one thing that I think it's falling down is the language barrier, especially in Latin America.
20:47Because, you know, people from Chile understand what people from Puerto Rico speak, right?
20:53Spanish.
20:54Like I said, the one example that I gave like a couple answers ago was like Brazil and Portugal.
21:01We speak the same language, but you don't see the penetration of Portugal music inside of Brazil, even though we
21:08speak the same language, but a different accent.
21:10But I think the language barrier is like falling down a little bit, especially because some artists starting doing like
21:16looking for the Spanish market and Latin market.
21:20Well, we are Latin as well, Brazilians, but we're looking at it as one same market, one same team, right?
21:28And now we are spreading our music, even Spanish and Portuguese across the globe go into Europe or either go
21:34into the United States or Canada as well.
21:37Just the fact that GACO is touring in Paraguay.
21:40Yeah.
21:40I mean, that's huge.
21:42Congratulations on that.
21:44Thank you so much.
21:46I mean, even like I was saying, even the people who don't understand the lyrics, they can feel this.
21:54So it's kind of ours, our thing, you know, nice.
21:59Brazilian funk beat.
22:02You were speaking about the importance of investment in labels such as Sonar.
22:07Are you seeing more investment come into Brazil and how do you think the industry can help foster more of
22:13that to help the independent community?
22:16I definitely see a lot of investment in Brazil, meaning on Belief's side, it's one of our priority markets.
22:23But if you see the competition, there's a lot of eyes in Brazil.
22:27And I think that that is great.
22:30And it's something we should take advantage of and continue to educate the industry and not from like, I'm going
22:37to educate you how to do it, but make sure that the artists understand what they're signing, understand what the
22:42money is for.
22:44Partner with labels like Sonar who are very interested in building a big roster of artists that can go local,
22:52regional and international.
22:53I think that is super important.
22:56Yeah, yeah, just, I'm giving, I think it's very similar in a DIY perspective as Tunicore.
23:02We have Brazil, one of the main markets, priority for us.
23:05So the investment is really focused on some specific genres that is attracted by DIY segment.
23:12So, yeah, we are very aligned with the strategy with not only what the market offer, but also what the
23:19group itself is looking inside of Brazil and happy to contribute, I believe.
23:25What other genres are you seeing resonate in addition to the funk?
23:32I would add, Diego, what other genres in the label are you seeing resonate?
23:36Can you translate that to him, Owen?
23:45There are some derivations of the funk, there's a funk, the left europeu, from Eastern Europe.
23:54Trap, yep.
23:56I think that's it.
23:57Além of the funk, today, the rap and the trap walk in the same line.
24:07It's very bad.
24:09Definitely, and I also would say that there's a lot of mixing within the genres.
24:15He talks about trap, and I've heard trap nejo.
24:19Forró is being inspired also by a lot of urban beats.
24:22So I think there is not only the same usual genres, but there's a lot of cross-pollination between the
24:29genres, like funk and funk, which are spelled differently, and they have a bit of a different sound, but come
24:37from the same root.
24:39What does Brazil need to compete globally around the world alongside the other larger countries in the world, larger territories
24:50in the world?
24:52I'm going to venture to say collaboration, an understanding of the marketplace, and investment.
24:59Those three things.
25:00Understanding Brazil.
25:02And again, that's one of the reasons we're here, and I'm so thankful that you're here listening to us, is
25:06to talk about Brazil, to have their own artists and labels talk about their own experience.
25:12So more of that.
25:14I don't know, Bruno.
25:15Yeah, I think when you look for Brazil markets, it's a very, very competitive market.
25:20Not only in terms of, like, what is going to be your goal in terms of business to put, like,
25:26our label distribution company in Brazil, but also as an artist.
25:29Because, again, we've been releasing songs, like, thousands and thousands of songs every day in different genres, different cultures.
25:36So I think, in general, Brazil is a very, very competitive market.
25:41When I look to the other markets in Latin America, because, well, in Tunicore, we oversee a lot of, like,
25:47the whole Latin America, from the U.S. Latin to the bottom.
25:50And, of course, Brazil, as one of the main priorities, for me, it's a very, very, like, challenge just to,
25:57like, build or help an artist grow inside of Brazil, which has successful cases as Anna Castella, Raffi Jr., now
26:08Piseiro, which is one of the genres that we're looking to.
26:12So, again, it's, I think it's a very competitive market, and I've been seeing that, looking now at Mexico, for
26:21example, when they started with regional Mexico.
26:25I saw that in Brazil, like, a long time ago, the structural region of Mexico, and years ago, when they
26:32started doing sertaneja in Brazil, as well.
26:34And how can this momentum be cemented to create more lasting opportunities for artists?
26:41More plurality.
26:43Not just one top artist exporting their music or becoming international.
26:49More international artists becoming, more local artists becoming international.
26:53More live shows from Caco in the U.S., in other countries from Latin America.
27:00I think, again, maintaining diversity and plurality in the audience and in the different artists we consume is going to
27:11be paramount for us to have a strong tradition of listening to Brazilian music and to different genres.
27:21And when you look to the next three to five years or so, what do you hope to see for
27:26Brazilian music, for the Brazilian music business?
27:31I have an overview of what, as an artist, what do you hope to see?
27:35What do I hope to see?
27:36I think this constance of work, this constance of the artist of making music, you know, still making music.
27:48And when you make music for just making music, you know, not with this big intention of making a global
27:55hit, you know, making music and things naturally will be happening.
28:00And, you know, I think that's what moves the music industry, when the artist comes into a studio and make
28:06his music.
28:07And I think that's what I want to see as an artist, we're just making music, having the support from
28:14the companies, having the support from our managers and make music.
28:20I want to see more music, more genders coming, new genders, new collaborations, opportunities, which in the last four or
28:31five years have been growing up, you know.
28:35I've seen this growing up so fast in Brazil, and that's what I want to see in the next years.
28:41I love that, and I completely agree.
28:44More collaboration, more openness to, rather than compete, to collaborate and feature across different companies.
28:52I would love to see more investment.
28:55But overall, what you said is for the love of music, not for the art of making a global hit
29:00or not.
29:01It's just more investment to create more music and see where that takes us.
29:07All right.
29:08Well, guys, thank you so much for joining me.
29:10And thank you to everybody for coming to us.
29:14Thank you very much.

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