00:00I want to cut across right now to TMC Lok Sabha MP, Senior Leader Mahua Moitro, who's joining us live.
00:06Ms. Moitro, thank you for taking the time out.
00:08Allow me to ask you a first quick question.
00:10Where does the TMC Mamata Banerjee faction stand on the protest call by Abhijit Dipke, which is the 16th of
00:19this month?
00:19Will a political party like yours be joining in?
00:26As our leader Mamata Banerjee has already tweeted today, she said that we've always stood for democracy over the years
00:33and we continue to do that.
00:35And what has happened today is a blot on democracy.
00:38Jantan Mantar is a public place.
00:41You cannot be criminally, you cannot be trespassing on a public place, A.
00:46B, criminal trespass has to have intent to do something criminal.
00:50In this case, all they did was unfurl the flag.
00:53And the last time we saw that was a crime was under British colonial rule.
00:57And also what we've seen here is they say it's breach of peace.
01:00How is unfurling a flag breach of peace?
01:03So we are with them 100%.
01:04Mamata Banerjee has tweeted her support and as have all the other India Alliance leaders.
01:10So we are behind them 100%.
01:13Ms. Moitro, you yourself did get roughed up the last time around you went out in protest.
01:20Will there be physical presence of opposition parties in this protest?
01:25Because till now we've seen a complete demarcation where at one end when the opposition protests the India Alliance, it's
01:33separate.
01:34And then there is the call of the CJP.
01:35Do we see the merging of parts right now?
01:38Because the language seems to suggest there is one common cause and every part should come together.
01:46It's definitely one common cause and everything has to come together.
01:50All of us are together as you've seen with the solidarity shown of the Gen Z young protesters with us
01:57and us with them.
01:58So it's definitely one and that is to reclaim our democracy.
02:01There's no doubt about that.
02:03Now when the youngsters, when Gen Z, when the students are protesting, the senior leaders have taken a call that
02:10we don't want to go in and cramp their space.
02:12So we don't want to go in and cramp their space and political parties, there are a lot of people
02:16in this country still who believe that they don't want to align with a particular political party.
02:22But at the same time for something like this, like vote chori, like reclaiming democracy, they still want to be
02:27out there.
02:28So we want to leave the space open that if there are people who want to be, you know, without
02:33political color, but to go in and reclaim democracy from the hands of these louts and goons, that they are
02:39free to do that.
02:39Which is why we have been doing our protests on different days and leaving the CJP and the youngsters to
02:47do it on different days.
02:48So I don't know if they will converge later, but as of now this has been simply done to leave
02:52everyone their space.
02:53But we are all in the same fight together, fighting for the same goal.
02:57Ms. Moitra, you had the Home Minister yesterday, after even senior cabinet ministers like Piyush Goel.
03:03The train of thought now is very clear.
03:06The messaging coming in from the government is an attempt on the opposition part, like you, an attempt to spread
03:13anarchy, playing into foreign forces, and also supporting what the Home Minister called Ghuspetias.
03:24Who is interested in the Home Minister?
03:26Is anyone interested in this Home Minister?
03:29Tell me honestly, is anyone interested, does anyone give a flying fig as to what Home, Amit Shah says?
03:36He's been in hiding.
03:37If he's been Home Minister, this government has held the Home Portfolio for the past 12 years.
03:42If they're still giving us the bogey of Ghuspetias, like I've said this before, he's the first person whose resignation
03:47should be on the table.
03:48So, no one's listening to this dog whistling anymore.
03:54If you've seen the ECI data infrastructure, the software, the clouds, it's all held by this company in Bangalore, next
04:03-gen, which is held by Finot Khosla, who's got ties to Epstein, who's based in Silicon Valley, who's not based
04:09in India.
04:10So, what are we talking about?
04:12This foreign infiltration, nationalist thing, we are anti-national, we've had enough of all of this.
04:18People who, there is no bigger criminal, democratic criminal in this country than someone who stole democracy and stole the
04:26mandate.
04:26And that is the BJP and the BJP ecosystem that has done it via Seema Khanna and Gyanesh Kumar.
04:34There is nothing, there are no other criminals in that.
04:36Ms. Moitra, where does...
04:37So, I'm Piyush Gowell.
04:38Does anyone listen to Piyush Gowell?
04:41You know, ma'am, you know, in effect, well, those who support the government will turn around and say the
04:46same of the opposition.
04:48So, you're well within your right to ask that question, but there's a counter-opinion on that as well.
04:52For those who do support the government and who do feel that the likes of you are spreading handily.
04:56Just a counter-opinion, I have not heard, I have not heard one counter from this government on what the
05:04main points are.
05:05I have not heard one counter from the Home Minister and Modi ji, the Prime Minister, on how Gyanesh Kumar
05:14is still in his seat after it has been proven that the Election Commission has stolen the mandate.
05:20After it has been proven that people were illegally deleted without a chance for hearing from the database in this
05:28country.
05:29How, when it has been definitively proven that a majority of the 13 crore voters and definitely majority of the
05:36ones in West Bengal that have been deleted, have been deleted illegally and should be back on the rolls.
05:43We've not heard, that is the main issue.
05:45The main issue is not about, you know, what you're saying, what I'm saying and this kind of tutu meh
05:50meh.
05:50This is not the issue. You said there were Ghuspetias in Bihar. I was a petitioner in Bihar. Who were
05:57the Ghuspetias? Could you prove at the end of the Bihar SIR how many Ghuspetias were there? What's the number?
06:02There were 200 odd Nepali Hindu women who were married to Biharis on the border districts.
06:09In Bengal, there were 27 lakh pending adjudication where they are coming back, the hit rate of their being accepted
06:17once they are being heard at the tribunals is something close to 95%.
06:22So, 95% of those 27 lakh people, now it is 32 lakh people, should be back on the rolls.
06:28How many are Ghuspetias? At the end of the Bengal exercise, give me a list of 100 Ghuspetias that you
06:34found.
06:35Have you done that? These are the questions. This is not a question of tutu meh meh and I would
06:39request you, Preeti, you somehow managed to take a stand somewhat divergent from India today, which is complete Gaudi media
06:45and I'm saying this, not you, so you're not responsible for it.
06:48But you've somehow been somewhat of a sane voice in India today. So, I'm telling you on live television that
06:53it's high time that the media also called this out.
06:58We want real answers. This is not about Puyish Goyal doing tutu meh meh or Amit Shah doing tutu meh
07:02meh. Give us the answers.
07:03Allow me to ask you one final question, but do allow me to say this. The sheer fact that I
07:08represent my channel, my channel represents me and I just want to leave it at that.
07:12And I'm very proud to be associated with India today. And I will just now ask you one final question
07:17before we let you go.
07:18Wonderful. And I hope, yes, yes.
07:21Let me ask you one quick question before we let you go. Because the Congress has taken a very strident
07:27stand that the buck doesn't stop with the Chief Election Commissioner's resignation.
07:31They've escalated it to the Home Minister and the Prime Minister himself. Other political parties like the Samajwadi Party and
07:38even the left parties have made it very clear that their fight is limited to the resignation of the CEC.
07:48I don't think we are limited to that. I don't think and I don't know where you're quoting that from,
07:53but we've made it very clear that that Amit Shah, we said Amit Shah needs to resign a long time
07:58before.
07:59So, we have said Amit Shah needs to resign 10 months ago, for the past two years ago. So, we
08:03have made it very clear that Ganesh Kumar is not some rogue agent.
08:07Ganesh Kumar has been propped up by the government, by Amit Shah and Narendra Modi. Who is Ganesh Kumar? He's
08:13an IAS officer from who's been deputed here.
08:16Ganesh Kumar has not come from Mars on some mission to destroy Indian democracy. He's been placed here by people
08:21who destroy democracy.
08:22Why is this government, after all of this uproar, all of this, that people are hitting the streets, bending over
08:28backwards to save Ganesh Kumar, Priti?
08:31Who is Ganesh Kumar? He's just nothing. He's a puppet. Who are the ones holding the, who are the puppeteers?
08:36It's Narendra Modi and Amit Shah. And of course, the bug stops with them.
08:40If they would remove the Ganesh Kumar, they've got three other tattoos in the line to replace Ganesh Kumar.
08:44So, obviously, the bug doesn't stop with Ganesh Kumar. And I'm not sure that they, I don't know where you've
08:48got that.
08:50I'll tell you where I've got that from, because we've had both left parties and Samajbadi parties who've come on
08:56the channel and said very clearly that their limited fight today is the resignation of the CEC and they're not
09:03escalating it to the HM and the PM.
09:05They've said that. But thank you for taking the time out and joining us this evening. I appreciate the time.
09:11That's not what I got to go away, but I definitely hope that.
09:13Okay. Fair point. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Moitra, for joining us. Appreciate it.
