00:00I've always wondered if part of that is why the idea of, like, imposter syndrome that can come with, like,
00:09commercial success exists, is I think if you write in that way, there's part of you that kind of acknowledges,
00:19it, like, almost feels like you're not responsible for it.
00:22So then if people are like, oh, you've made this thing and that means that you're this, there's something in
00:30there that feels like, oh, I can't take credit for it, it just kind of happened to me.
00:35I think I've always found the things that I end up liking the most or, you know, have been the
00:42most special things to me are the ones where you kind of write it.
00:45And then as you're listening back or reading lyrics back, you're kind of learning something about yourself of, like, you're,
00:53like, realising that you've said something rather than, oh, I'm going to sit down, I'm going to say this.
00:59Yeah, and you might not realise and you might record it and track it and everything and not realise until
01:04you've mastered it.
01:06Yeah.
01:06And then you suddenly hear, oh, shit, that's what I meant.
01:09Yeah.
01:09Yeah.
01:10That's right, I think.
01:11But at the same time, it's not not you because you spend, it's not divine intervention or anything like that.
01:20It's like you, you've got to show up in order to find these things, you have to show up.
01:26Much like with any job, you develop skills at what you do.
01:30If you're a cameraman, you develop skills, you develop a relationship with your camera.
01:35If you are a songwriter, you develop a relationship with whatever the hell that is.
01:40Mm-hmm.
