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Troye Sivan reveals how Madonna cleared the sample on “Party,”and why that moment became a major creative unlock for the song. He walks us through the writing process, and how the track evolved from early versions into the final club-ready record. Troye also opens up about the emotional whiplash of his new era, releasing “She’s the Best” and then pivoting into the rush of “Party.” He reveals what he actually measures success by, the cultural conversation he hopes the music and videos spark, and the way he balances bold pop moments with more interior, vulnerable storytelling. Plus, Troye shares what it was like working with Nicole Kidman, breaks down “Cowboy,” “Canada Dry,” “Sex Star,” “Troy Meets World,” “FF” and more!
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00:00It's like my favorite moment in the video, like as I'm kind of diving in.
00:07Hi, I'm Troye Sivan and this is Billboard News.
00:14Party in the Bush, party in the Billboard office with Troye Sivan.
00:17How you doing?
00:18Good, how are you?
00:19I'm so happy you're here, man.
00:20We got so much to talk about, so let's jump right into it.
00:23So you dropped She's the Best, immediately followed by Party.
00:26What has it been like to see the reaction so far online to your new music?
00:28It's been crazy.
00:30I think I've been honestly kind of like pleasantly surprised because I definitely have been like pushing myself, I think,
00:39and maybe in turn also like pushing people.
00:41And I wasn't really sure how, you know, I know that kind of like when the album arrives, I think
00:48everything kind of becomes like clearer and kind of clicks into place.
00:51But the sort of journey that I wanted to take people on to get there is definitely like a bit
00:55of a roller coaster.
00:56And so going from something like as sensitive as She's the Best into something as like kind of irreverent as
01:05Party, I've been very excited to kind of like do that.
01:09And it's been fun and I've been really happy with how it's all kind of like being received.
01:20And I mean, I remember when you first played the album for us, you were kind of talking about like
01:24dropping She's the Best first and knowing that you had this party like waiting in the wings.
01:30So when She's the Best dropped, I did see online the chatter, people being like, oh, they were kind of
01:34shocked that you went this like emotional slow way.
01:37And I was like, yeah, they don't know he's got a plan.
01:39Yeah.
01:39So did you when you watched it kind of unfold that way?
01:42Do you care that people are like dissecting your releases in that way?
01:46No, it's kind of what I want, you know, like I think for me, I I've never really strived for
01:53like a hit in my in my whole career.
01:57You know what I mean?
01:57I've like never really had one, to be honest, you know, so as far as like that's not true.
02:01No, the thing is, I appreciate that.
02:03And I think I think it can feel that way, but like by the metrics of, you know, like a
02:09chart or something like that, the billboard charts, I wasn't going to say it, but you did.
02:18You know, it's like, I think the highest charting song I've ever had was like youth, maybe really youth peaked
02:26higher than Rush.
02:33Exactly.
02:33Yeah.
02:33So the thing is that like I feel, I feel like a song like Rush has changed my life so
02:40much more than a song like Youth did, even though they're both, you know, whatever.
02:43And so for me, like the kind of commercial, like numeric performance of something has never really been my goal.
02:52And so as long as there's, you know, cultural conversation and people like kind of, you know, listening to the
03:02songs and kind of understanding what I'm trying to say and watching the videos, like that's kind of like my
03:07thing that I care about much, much, much more.
03:11And so, yeah, I think it's like it's a fun part of it for me.
03:17And let's talk about the fun.
03:19Party's a great song, by the way.
03:25Party is with my brother, Tide, Rob Feier, who's our friend from Australia, Styles Fuego, who's Australian.
03:33I started writing the lyrics with Luca, Elvira and Tove, who work with Addison Rae all the time and whatever.
03:40And Leland's on the song and it's like, and then Madonna and Mirwai are on the song because there's the
03:45sample.
03:46So even like the credit list is like a party, which I think is really fun.
03:52And it's funny how kind of like simple the song is, considering how many people worked on it.
03:56But it's just one of these things that like took so many different forms over the time, like that we
04:03wrote it.
04:03The first version of it was kind of sung.
04:06And then I was like, I went home and I spoke it into my computer and I made a little
04:10track, sent it to my brother, who then made it the track that you sort of hear now.
04:13Then Styles took it and worked on it.
04:15Then we got the sample involved.
04:16So it's like this whole big kind of long process.
04:18So it's a party and we got to talk about the Madonna of it all.
04:27So at what point in the creative process did the sample come in?
04:31Did you have to like reach out to the Queen?
04:33Like how did that all come together?
04:34I think it was like probably a quarter of the way through the whole process.
04:39And it was a huge unlock in the in the creative because I tried to write, you know, like verses
04:47or
04:48different chorus or a pre chorus for the song.
04:51And every time I would do it, the kind of like concept of the song is I wanted it to
04:55be sort of like a big can I swear?
04:57Yeah, of course.
04:58Like a big kind of like irreverent fuck you kind of song like where it's just I was like, no,
05:03this needs to be cyclical because that is the entire concept of the song.
05:06And any time I would write a new part, it would kind of take away from how I wanted it
05:11to feel, which was just this like go, go, go.
05:15You know, like really kind of like loose thing.
05:18And so once I realized that there could be this moment in the song where before you hear the music
05:25sample, it kind of like there's like this almost vacuum where the track kind of cuts out and it cuts
05:31to me breathing as if I'm like heaving on a dance floor.
05:34And then music by Madonna creeps in and in my head, it's like I'm on the dance floor closing my
05:41eyes, having one of those moments where I feel like I'm like ascending and then music starts to play on
05:48the dance floor.
05:49And it is like the thing that takes me to, you know, like Nirvana or something.
05:53I kind of like had this story in my head and then I got so attached to it and I
05:57was so nervous.
05:58But Madonna somehow made it very easy and said yes, like pretty much right away.
06:03And yeah, it was amazing.
06:05The scary thing was that there was still like because there's so much there's so many writers on the song
06:09or whatever.
06:10There's so much like background stuff that needs to happen when you're approving when you're getting a sample approved.
06:14Yeah.
06:14And we were filming the music video and it wasn't like signed, sealed, delivered like at all.
06:18That's scary.
06:19And like the video is a big video as well.
06:21So I was like, fuck, please.
06:22I really, really, really hope that this like works out.
06:24And it did.
06:25Okay.
06:25Party in the bush.
06:27Party in the bar.
06:27Hey, Madonna!
06:31That's awesome.
06:32And I mean, I love, I love hearing your creative process.
06:34It's so awesome.
06:35But like with Madonna and getting that stamp, like what is your Madonna moment?
06:39Like have you met her?
06:40What is the part of her career that?
06:42I have not met her.
06:43Well, we got to make that happen at the VMA Sunday.
06:45Maybe, maybe.
06:46She's performing.
06:47Yes.
06:47I'm excited to see that.
06:48I mean, my, like my Madonna moment is, that was the first like song that I knew in my life
06:55was like a prayer.
06:56Like as a little tiny, tiny, tiny boy, I would run around in circles in my house growing up.
07:02I was maybe like four or five or something like that.
07:06And I would sing like a prayer by Madonna over and over and over again.
07:10And that was kind of like when my parents were like, oh, yes, here's a nice voice.
07:13Oh, wow.
07:14Yeah.
07:14I love this story.
07:15And then let's talk about the music video, which is crazy.
07:18Like so insane.
07:20Like as people were like, everybody's discussing it.
07:22So talk to me about that queer liberation and putting it in that setting and why you decided
07:26to do that.
07:27Well, really, the concept started with like Gordon Bon Steiner and I, he directs all the
07:32videos.
07:33We were talking about partying as kind of like a general concept.
07:36And I think it's something that we both take quite seriously in our lives, like as a form
07:41of like catharsis, I think.
07:43I think it's like such a beautiful way to feel like a human being.
07:48Like to me, there's something very, very, very touching about seeing groups of people
07:55dancing.
07:56I'm like, that is so sweet that these like people have gathered.
08:00And for this amount of time, they're letting go of kind of like everything else that's
08:06happening in their life.
08:07And they're being kind of like connected through this shared experience or whatever.
08:10And so it sounds a bit wanky, but like I think about how beautiful that is a lot, you
08:15know, especially I think like having played shows, you're so aware of, you know, every single
08:23night you get to see this like amazing, amazing thing that happens.
08:27And so we were just talking about that and we were talking about how I think it's like
08:31innate to people, how they have this need to let loose.
08:36And so we were like, okay, well then surely people have always died, you know, yeah, in
08:41some capacity.
08:42And then when Gordon pitched me the idea, because it was his idea, he's a genius, I was like,
08:47first I was like scared because I was like, it's such a camp idea.
08:51So camp.
08:51I know.
08:52And I love that.
08:53But I was also like, girl, we got to like, we can't go.
08:56So like, I didn't want it to be, I wanted it to be fun, but I didn't want it to
09:00be funny
09:01necessarily.
09:02Like I didn't want people to be like laughing the whole time being like, this is ridiculous
09:05or this is like a costume, even though it is.
09:08And then he said to me, he's like, no, no, no, but we'll shoot it like the favorite.
09:12And I love that movie.
09:13And immediately I saw the vision of like how beautiful it could be.
09:19But it also still sounded so far-fetched that I was like, if we can pull this off, it'll
09:24be like the best thing that we've ever done.
09:26If we can't pull it off, this is going to be a absolute dumpster fire.
09:30So yeah, it was so fun.
09:32Well, it's not a dumpster fire.
09:33I mean, Sir Ian.
09:34Yeah, no, that was crazy.
09:34How did that come together?
09:36So I met him when I was like 14.
09:38We did a play together in Australia.
09:40And so I've always had like a soft spot for him because it was at a really like informative
09:47time in my life.
09:48I was about to come out of the closet to my mom.
09:52And I think meeting him and just seeing such a kind of like confident, self-assured, seemingly
09:59really happy, openly gay man who was also working in the industry that I wanted to work
10:04in, it was just like very inspiring to me.
10:05And so then when we were talking about, again, this kind of like this idea of partying being
10:11passed down through like kind of generations, especially through queer, like, you know, in
10:15queer communities, we were like, okay, he's like the perfect person for it.
10:20And so I tracked down his email and I did.
10:24Where's this man's email?
10:26Yes.
10:26I asked the gay guy on Instagram that I follow that I know knows him.
10:31Amazing.
10:31Yes.
10:32I was like, what is his email?
10:33And I sent him a video of me like explaining the idea and he said yes.
10:38That's so sweet, man.
10:39And then last thing about the music video, I got to talk about it.
10:41Of course, you've seen the memes.
10:43You know.
10:44I haven't.
10:44What?
10:46Party on the way to the party at the park.
10:48Diving into something.
10:50And I feel like it's hilarious because you obviously know the debate always about, is Troy
10:54a top?
10:54Is he a bottom?
10:55And I was like, when I saw that scene in the video and now everybody wants to debate about
10:58that, I'm like, do you think about that?
10:59Are you playing with the gay men that obsess about stuff like this?
11:03No, honestly, no.
11:05I kind of like didn't really think much of that.
11:07Like I knew that it was fun and I knew that it was hot to me.
11:11But no, we were just kind of like going for it.
11:14And it's like my favorite moment in the video.
11:16Like as I'm kind of diving in, then kind of going into the choreo.
11:21So I just, it makes me smile every time.
11:23Corey, you're sick, man.
11:24I can't wait to see you perform this stuff.
11:26Party in the bush.
11:28Party into the bridge.
11:29Party at the restaurant.
11:30Party at the club.
11:30Party in the day.
11:31Party in my house.
11:32Duh!
11:33And then let's remind, let's talk about the album.
11:35So She's the Best, obviously a very meaningful song.
11:37Your tribute to women, trans, all the things.
11:39Like what made you decide you wanted to kick the album off with that?
11:42And name the album She's the Best.
11:43I mean, it's such an important song to me.
11:45And I think it was just something that I hadn't explored before in music.
11:50And it's something that I've like felt for my whole life and never really like had a way to express
11:55it.
11:56And so once that song existed, I was thinking in the context of the album, you know, like the album
12:02is such a journey.
12:04Like there's this sort of whiplash between like these songs that I feel like I'm performing on stage and, you
12:11know, they're super big and like bombastic.
12:14And then all of a sudden I'm like depressed and lonely in my hotel room, like writing songs about this
12:19like man that I have not met yet.
12:21Like these like manifestation love songs.
12:23And this is kind of like this almost like pathetic element to the album as well.
12:27And I think I spent so much time in both of those places and neither felt like they were really
12:35like totally fulfilling me.
12:37And when I arrived at She's the Best, I think that's also why I made it the album title.
12:42It's like I realized that that was the one thing that I that is constant in my life and that
12:48has always been constant.
12:49And like the stability of it and the support that I've had from from like the women and like feminine
12:55people in my life has been the thing that's kind of got me through all areas.
13:00And then I also just really like the idea of, you know, I think coming off the back of like
13:03a project that was as pop as my last one, I kind of almost wanted a little bit of like
13:10a reclamation of like I I still have no real interest in like playing the pop game, really.
13:17And I liked the idea of doing something that was for me, you know, she's walking down the street with
13:22a little thin cigarette, great smile and a kind of stain on the floor.
13:27Nicole Kidman.
13:28So tell me about like getting her involved and how awesome that was.
13:33Yes, I was just listening to every single night.
13:37Oh, every single night.
13:38I knew you would be on Adele's Day.
13:40So good.
13:43But yeah, I mean, Nicole is like, I think maybe I haven't spoken to Adele about the song, but I
13:49think that maybe for the same reason she wrote that song, it's like she Nicole represents something, I think, to
13:57so many people that is kind of like unexplainable.
14:02It's this like there's an energy there that is just so captivating and a power and like obviously talent and
14:11beauty.
14:12And it's like she's such a good example of like the women that I've been obsessed with my entire life.
14:16And so when writing, she's the best, you know, like my mom has that quality to me, you know, like
14:21and so I think Nicole just being a representative of it.
14:23So I was like, she's kind of like the perfect person for this.
14:29And we had worked together and so I had her phone number on my phone and I was always gagged
14:34by that.
14:35She's going to text Nicole.
14:36Yeah.
14:38And I, yeah, I asked her if she wanted to do it and she also just said yes.
14:43And I was like, I'm going to, I didn't say this to her, but I was like, I am going
14:47to believe it when we wrap the video, you know, that it's actually happened.
14:52Because I don't know, she's Nicole Kidman, like, of course, something's going to come up or like whatever.
14:56And so every time, because she was very, very, very involved and like excited by the project, I think.
15:02And so we were, you know, like texting back and forth about styling and hair and makeup and locations and
15:08stuff like that, basically.
15:09And so every time my phone would go off and it was her name, I was like, fuck, here it
15:13is.
15:13Like she's going to say like, I have booked a movie with Meryl Streep and I can't come anymore.
15:18And it never happened and she came.
15:20That's awesome.
15:35And I mean, how did you like channel that feminine energy and like kind of that back and forth in
15:40the studio when you're doing those personal songs, like you said, but you're also doing party.
15:44Like, do you separate your time?
15:46Do you like go into different spaces when you're creating different tracks like that?
15:49No, one kind of felt like relief from the other, you know, like I think I would be writing these
15:54songs that I couldn't wait to perform live where I feel like I'm this kind of fully self-actualized version
15:59of myself.
16:00And in my head, there's like, you know, dancers on stage and I'm like kind of giving this show that
16:05I would have dreamt of when I was a kid.
16:07And then I would allow myself to kind of like write the more interior stuff as a as an expression
16:18of something that that kind of like also felt true or sometimes felt more true.
16:21And then I would need a break from that and kind of like bounce back to the sort of like
16:27bravado version of myself again.
16:29And it was kind of like a back and forth like that sometimes in the same day.
16:32You're talking about performing and like how you envision yourself, the Sweat Tour, incredible, like what you did on the
16:38stage there was great.
16:39How do you see yourself creatively, visually for this album and when you have to perform it?
16:43I'm super excited because we just announced the first of only two, but like underplay shows where we're playing these
16:50kind of like intimate venues.
16:51And that's going to be my starting point and I'm really, really, really excited.
16:55You know, I think like when I'm making the music, I know that I'm inspired by what I'm making.
17:00If I can imagine the video and imagine the live show.
17:03And so I'm really excited to bring it to life.
17:06Let's talk through some of these tracks.
17:07So Canada Dry, I love the breathy vocals on the hook there.
17:11That was really nice.
17:12So talk to me about like the inspiration in creating.
17:14What?
17:22Yeah, so this one's really fun.
17:23The lyric in the chorus is, I want to sip your body till it's Canada Dry, right?
17:28And in my head, it's about this like hot Canadian man that I've met.
17:33And something about this track made me feel, it's like it captures a specific feeling in pop music that I
17:37love, which is like slinky sexy.
17:41Slinky sexy.
17:42Do you know what I mean?
17:43Yeah, as soon as you said it, I was like, yes.
17:45Okay, cool.
17:45Like I feel like Addison does a really great job of it.
17:48Janet is like sort of the queen of it.
17:50Kylie is amazing at it.
17:52And these are all artists that I love.
17:53This song made me feel like slinky sexy.
17:55And so I started writing this chorus that was like so kind of like ooey gooey, like breathy.
18:03Just to me, it's very, I feel very empowered in my femininity in this chorus.
18:07You know what I mean?
18:09And yeah, it came, my brother again is the producer on it.
18:13Rob is the producer on it.
18:13And Leland.
18:14And it was just like very easy.
18:16I wrote the chorus and recorded it at home.
18:18And yeah, it kind of just like came.
18:21And Cowboy also so vulnerable.
18:24And you have a really interesting story behind that.
18:26So I want you to talk about Cowboy.
18:28What's my interesting story about Cowboy?
18:29You told it at the party.
18:31Oh, did I?
18:32Yes.
18:32Fuck.
18:33You're like, no, I've got to say this.
18:34Yeah.
18:42No, I mean, so Cowboy is one of the songs on the album that's, it's like a manifestation song,
18:47you know, and it's a specific person who like kind of visited me in a dream in a really nice
18:54way.
18:55The thing about a dream obviously is that by the time the morning comes, it's like,
19:00uh, the lyric is, um, the night and our time is a cavalry that's gone too soon.
19:06And I loved the, I like this visual of, of a Cowboy kind of like riding away and I wake
19:12up and he's not there kind of thing.
19:13But the, the kind of like euphoria of, of getting to have that moment while I'm asleep,
19:19uh, was, was really nice.
19:21Yeah.
19:22And then, I mean, keeping the vulnerability going, Sexstar, I love, I love the lyric,
19:26don't you thank me, it's a pleasure for you.
19:28That was like, it's dope.
19:29Cause I think all gay men have this kind of feeling that you're writing about in Sexstar.
19:33So tell me about the inspiration in recording that track as well.
19:35Don't you thank me, it's a pleasure for you.
19:40Yeah.
19:40So Sexstar is one of my favorite songs on the album.
19:43Essentially it's like the, the question of it is what do I need to do to meet this guy?
19:51You know?
19:51And so, you know, the, the song opens up with, I got a fake tan, I got a trainer and
19:56it's
19:56like, you know, all these things that you're kind of like molding and changing yourself.
20:00It's like, I'm an actor, entertainer, if you like that kind of thing.
20:03Like, I'm like really trying to pitch myself to, to this guy.
20:07And then the, I mean, the chorus lyric is like, it's, it's essentially asking, do I
20:12need to become some sort of sex star to like, you know, win you over?
20:16Yeah.
20:16And it's like, cause I'll try, I, I, I'll do whatever it takes kind of thing.
20:19Yeah.
20:20It's like a very, I think there's, there's like a real like sadness to it because you
20:26can, I think hear someone in this case me who is really just like throwing themselves
20:33at someone and, and kind of like maybe not coming from the right place with it where
20:39it's like, Oh, I think I know that my therapist, for example, would say that like, that's not
20:44the right kind of like angle to be taking.
20:47Like, I think you're going to meet someone when you're like really centered in yourself.
20:50And when you realize that they, you know, it should be coming from a place of kind of
20:53confidence rather than of like elasticity and bending to somebody else's needs.
20:59But we've all been there.
21:00Like, yeah, it's a feeling that I think we carry with us when we're trying to impress
21:04somebody and, but you just got to be yourself.
21:07I'm sure it's what your therapist is saying.
21:09Exactly.
21:09You sound like a, I do like the, that vulnerability, like you said earlier, a bit pathetic is how
21:16you described it.
21:17But I like that you also have a confidence in it.
21:19And I feel like a place in the album that, that really meets is Troy Meets World.
21:30Yeah.
21:30It's like, it has that vulnerability, but also that like drive.
21:34So do you feel that way about that track?
21:36Cause I, I have two favorites, but I think that's one of my favorites.
21:38Really?
21:39Okay.
21:39Nice.
21:39Thanks.
21:39Troy Meets World, I think is an important like bridging song almost on the album because
21:43it has the feeling of both sides of the album.
21:46Like I really wanted something that felt like I could like shake ass to it, but I also really
21:52wanted to incorporate some of the kind of like organic instrumentation.
21:56Like I was like, okay, shake ass, but with flutes, please.
21:59Shake ass, but with flutes.
22:00Very little of you.
22:01Right.
22:01Yeah, totally.
22:03Yeah.
22:04So like concept wise though, it's, it's definitely me in my, it's like in the kind of moments when
22:10I do feel empowered by the way that I kind of like get to travel and see the world and
22:15meet
22:15all of these people.
22:16And it's like, I think the, again, you know, the sort of like bringing together of people
22:20through music and everything that is something that I, that I still feel so often.
22:24And I'm really, really lucky.
22:25It's just not the whole story, I think.
22:28And so that's why this album is so important to me is to kind of like give people a bit
22:32more insight.
22:33Yeah.
22:33And I think my absolute favorite song of the album is Fucking Forever.
22:37Really?
22:38Yeah.
22:38It's, it's called FF now.
22:40Oh, do we just FF it now?
22:41Yeah, we have to FF it, but you can say it, but FF is now my favorite song on the
22:47album.
22:47And I think what's great about it is it's interesting that you've had to change the title because
22:50I was like a song called Fucking Forever probably shouldn't be a wedding song, but it's giving
22:55like wedding song.
22:56It's giving like beautiful, it's giving like first dance, it's giving all this stuff.
23:00So tell me about that song and why and how and what it means to you.
23:03Yeah.
23:04So FF is a love song, 100% through and through.
23:13The thing is that I don't know who I'm in love with yet.
23:16So it's like, I wanted it to have this like heaviness to it and this like weight that kind
23:21of like feels like the longing, you know?
23:24And so it's this like love song that feels like it kind of like drags you through the mud
23:28with it.
23:29And I just really, really love it.
23:31I'm really proud of the lyrics as well, like me and my baby are fucking forever.
23:35Gone are the days of waiting for pleasure.
23:38Concrete and steel like some real architecture.
23:40Me and my baby, me and my babe are fucking forever.
23:43So good.
23:43I just like, I really, really love it so much and yeah, I'm really proud of it.
23:47Yeah.
23:47And I'm proud of you for this whole project, man.
23:49I'm so excited for everybody to hear it.
23:51What do you want fans to take away from it as a full body of work?
23:54I mean, I think all I ever really want is to feel, I think I was like plagued
24:02with this desire to feel understood like from my whole life, you know?
24:06And I think that like music has always been my way to most accurately express myself.
24:11And so I do see the albums, it's like, it sounds corny because I think a lot of people say
24:16this, but I write very, very like journalistically and I think, yeah, just like, I sort of can
24:24look back on my albums and see them as like life updates.
24:27You know what I mean?
24:28Like I go back and listen to Blue Neighborhood and I kind of know exactly where I was at at
24:32the time.
24:33And then same thing with Bloom and same thing with Somebody Give Each Other.
24:35And now this, I think all I really want is for people to be like, I understand him.
24:43And I hate to ask you to do this, but I am because I think you know this, I'm a
24:46Blue Neighborhood
24:47stan, down and down.
24:49Best album, one of the best albums of my life.
24:51Wow.
24:52Listening to the new album, I felt like there was a return to that vibe.
24:56So I want to know how this album stacks up to you when you look at all your projects.
24:59Have you ranked them yet?
25:00And how do you feel like this one stacks up?
25:03I can't rate them in like favorites or anything like that because they're also, I think, different
25:08to me.
25:09But I did notice that, you know, I think that when I think about where I was in my life
25:15when I wrote Blue Neighborhood, it was a very kind of like sensitive time for me, definitely
25:20kind of coming of age, feeling very overwhelmed and like a bit lonely, you know?
25:25And when I think about where I'm at in my life right now, I think I have felt a bit
25:31overwhelmed
25:31and a bit lonely and a bit sensitive, you know?
25:33And so I think I'm realizing about myself that naturally there's these moments where
25:38I kind of, I guess, return to like a real sense of self.
25:43And I think that I'm realizing that what you maybe are hearing is like just a very kind
25:48of like true version of me, you know?
25:51Like who knows?
25:51Maybe hopefully I'm not like this in my feelings in the future.
25:55Like there's going to be an album where I'm not lonely.
25:57Yeah.
25:58Yeah.
25:58I don't know.
25:58Like, yeah.
25:59But this one I think is interesting as well because it has something that maybe Blue Neighborhood
26:04didn't have where it's got this like, I do know what it feels like now to feel confident.
26:10I was about to say it has the confidence.
26:12In myself, you know?
26:13And so I think having both is a really just kind of like accurate picture of where I'm
26:18at now.
26:19All right.
26:19Well, before we get out of here, we're going to do Troy's best things.
26:22Just a little rapid fire.
26:23Okay.
26:24And see what you think is the best.
26:26So what's the best Nicole Kidman movie?
26:28I mean, Moulin Rouge was the first one that I ever saw.
26:31So I'm just going to say that one.
26:32All right.
26:32The best scent.
26:34Scent?
26:34Mm-hmm.
26:36I would say my most.
26:39Sages Rose by Tulane Yel.
26:41Oh, got to check that out.
26:43The best pop girly.
26:44Fuck.
26:45I can't say that.
26:46You can.
26:47No.
26:48No.
26:49How about this?
26:49Best legendary pop girly?
26:51Because I know your answer.
26:53Janet?
26:54Yes.
26:54Yeah.
26:55Okay, Janet.
26:56Okay.
26:56The best runway look.
26:58Yours or someone else's?
27:00Oi.
27:00I mean, I'm a Prada boy down.
27:04I love going to the Prada shows.
27:06I think there's always something, like, so classic and timeless about their shows.
27:12So, yeah, maybe something from a Prada show.
27:16Prada boy down, I'm obsessed with as an adjective.
27:19I love that.
27:19The best Australian treat?
27:22Flat white.
27:23Flat white?
27:24Yeah, just like the coffee.
27:25Oh, just a flat white coffee.
27:26That's Australian?
27:27We invented that.
27:28I did not know this.
27:29Well, now I'm going on a tangent, but what I also want to ask, party in the bush.
27:33Okay, you explained it, like, you know, you guys, give me a story from that.
27:36Paint a picture, because I'm like, I'm trying to picture, you just drive out into the nowhere
27:40and drink in the bush?
27:42Exactly right.
27:43Yeah.
27:43So, usually someone will bring, like, a generator and some speakers, and then you
27:48find a place and have a party.
27:50I need to do this.
27:51Yeah.
27:51This is a life goal.
27:53All right.
27:53The best Aussie celeb?
27:55Oh.
27:57Nicole Kidman.
27:58And the best song from She's the Best.
28:02Fuck.
28:06Changes every single day for me.
28:10Today, I'm going to say, FF.
28:15That's the one, bro.
28:17I'm telling you, that's the one.
28:18Nice.
28:18Troy, I fucking love talking to you, man.
28:19Thank you so much.
28:20Thank you so much for hanging out.
28:21No worries.
28:21Of course.
28:23No worries.
28:24Yeah, so we're going to ask you for anything.
28:24We'll see you now for a week before we can.
28:25Listen to this latest change.