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En entrevista con El Espectador, el secretario de Seguridad de Bogotá, César Restrepo, habla de la propuesta de militarizar las calles de la capital. Aclara el rol de las Fuerzas Militares en la ciudad, explica por qué la militarización es una medida jurídica inviable y expone los resultados en la reducción de homicidios durante la administración del alcalde Carlos Fernando Galán. Además, detalla los principales retos frente al hurto común, el déficit estructural de pie de fuerza policial y las reformas que requiere el sistema penal colombiano para combatir la impunidad.
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00:00It's impossible to say what the government thinks about deploying soldiers on the streets.
00:05because the soldiers are already participating in the functions and missions that the Constitution and the Law give them
00:10and in the type of activities they carry out to support citizen security.
00:13The problem here is neither the police, nor the judges, nor the prosecutors.
00:17They have to respond to a legal framework that does not give them the tools to defeat crime.
00:22And the country needs to be aware that if it doesn't allocate many resources
00:26to revitalize the capabilities of the police and military forces,
00:29So then it is postponing the possibility of putting criminals and delinquents at a disadvantage.
00:51The approach is flawed, among other things,
00:55It's because the issue of withdrawing the soldiers is as if that's not happening.
01:00And at the beginning of Mayor Galán's administration, from day one,
01:04in its strategic approach for the city,
01:09One of his first instructions was that the Army was an integral part
01:12of our efforts in city security.
01:14Obviously, that effort is within the framework of the authorizations granted to that force by the Constitution and the Law,
01:19and in coordination with the leadership of the Metropolitan Police,
01:24who is in charge of the operational action of urban security and citizen security.
01:31Therefore, it's impossible to say what the government thinks about deploying soldiers on the streets.
01:37because the soldiers are already participating in the functions and missions that the Constitution and the Law give them
01:41and in the type of activities they carry out to support citizen security.
01:45People will wonder what mixed patrols, city edge patrols,
01:52support for control activities in the city,
01:58checkpoints for control on public roads,
02:03security in perimeter areas of military units,
02:07the extremely important work of the military gaula,
02:11intelligence gathering that contributes to the city's intelligence fusion,
02:16including comprehensive action.
02:18The Army played a leading role in addressing the fires that had recently begun before the government.
02:24So, the question is what the government thinks about deploying the army to the streets.
02:29This is clearly contradictory to the leading role and participation of the Army.
02:36in the city's security, so much so that he is a member of the City Security Council.
02:48No, I cannot interpret what those who propose the concept of militarization intend.
02:56Among other issues, the concept of militarization is not a spontaneous concept,
03:00It is part of a legal framework that is very clear in stating
03:04which is a measure for exceptional states,
03:07in which the National Police are overwhelmed in their capacity to act in the city
03:12and additionally for a very short period of time.
03:15It is what could be called a stabilization figure
03:18in order to regain control of a city as a whole,
03:23where the police no longer have any say,
03:26The police are completely removed from the security equation.
03:30and basically a campaign of reconquest is waged.
03:35Obviously the city has security challenges,
03:39Like all cities in Colombia, there are challenges in terms of theft,
03:43This problem exists with motorcycles being used by criminals
03:47to commit robberies, but all of those are behaviors that when you look at them
03:52in light of the national context, in light of the context between cities,
03:56the capacity of these organizations to destabilize the city
04:01because it does not correspond to the criteria established by law regarding that figure.
04:05I'll just tell you one thing, Alex,
04:07the homicide rate in the localities of Ciudad Bolívar,
04:12Kennedy,
04:15They are lower than the homicide rates of cities like Barranquilla
04:18or from cities like Cartagena or cities like Santa Marta.
04:24So, if one makes an assessment of the general conditions that exist
04:29to use an exceptional measure, because they clearly have no place.
04:34The problem is that sometimes they want to confuse things.
04:37or bring it into the political discussion
04:39and to suggest that this would be a factor of change
04:44And it turns out we're already working on that.
04:47Sure, what would be a factor of change?
04:49Further judicial investigation,
04:51that the Dijín of the National Police and the Sijín of Bogotá
04:54receive many more people to do the research
04:57to dismantle criminal organizations.
05:00That's very important.
05:01That the Attorney General's Office and the CTI have more resources
05:04and have more staff dedicated to quickly completing the processes
05:08of prosecution against these theft gangs
05:11which are clearly of great impact on the public,
05:15against which we are constantly fighting,
05:18but that its reduction requires judicial power
05:22and a judicial system that will send him to prison
05:24and strengthened anti-theft laws.
05:27The laws against theft are very weak
05:29And that is why, quite rightly, citizens feel frustrated.
05:34Because no matter how much we fight against theft,
05:38because theft continues to be a common occurrence in cities
05:40And that's where strengthening laws against theft is needed.
05:43the legal framework that is currently relatively weak.
06:01Of course, because there are also more crimes.
06:04That's not necessarily how the matter is interpreted.
06:07There are more complaints, Alex.
06:09And with more complaints, what it's showing us
06:11It's that police work has regained trust.
06:14of the citizens and allows us to learn more about crime.
06:17It is important to always remember that the records
06:19on which all these analyses are based
06:21These are records of complaints, not actual cases.
06:25And to the extent that the police
06:26we managed to bring it closer to the citizens,
06:28Citizens trust more, they report more
06:31And that allows us to better understand the crimes.
06:33and hit them faster.
06:35Look how in Bogotá, perhaps Bogotá today,
06:38It is the city that, through the CTI,
06:40of the civil sectional quality
06:41and the metropolitan police, the CIGIN,
06:45They develop the research processes
06:46the fastest in the country.
06:49Not being the optimal one, because really
06:51the country's research times
06:53They are quite bad because of the way the law is structured,
06:56But in Bogotá, get yourself checked out.
06:58of all the critical cases that have occurred
07:00during the last three years
07:02and almost all of them are solved.
07:05Where is the great challenge for Colombian society?
07:08And therefore from Bogotá?
07:09Because we are registered in the legal system
07:11and in the country's security system.
07:14It's that common crime,
07:16crime that affects citizens on a daily basis,
07:19theft from the person,
07:21the theft of the bicycle,
07:22the theft of the truck,
07:24the theft of the motorcycle,
07:25have a legal framework
07:27that makes that behavior much more serious
07:30within society
07:31and much more serious if violence is used.
07:34And that's true today.
07:36nor within the framework of...
07:38When the captures are made,
07:40throughout the entire criminal process,
07:42He is clearly not being treated that way.
07:44In Colombian society,
07:45theft,
07:46which is what bothers citizens the most,
07:48to the inhabitants of the cities,
07:50It is a crime against which the State
07:53It has no legal force
07:55in order to punish those who commit it.
07:57And that is where we have the challenge as a society.
08:08If a soldier is on a street
08:10And there he sees a flagrant offense,
08:13can work,
08:14may react
08:16to retain,
08:18apprehend the individual
08:19in the exercise
08:21of a pursuit caught in the act
08:24and detain him until the police arrive
08:27so that the police can take legal action.
08:30and capture it.
08:32Because the only institutions
08:34that in Colombia
08:35They have judicial police functions
08:37They are the National Police
08:39and the CTI of the Attorney General's Office.
08:42In the streets,
08:44They are the ones who can take legal action.
08:45So, in that case,
08:47The most the soldier can do is
08:52apprehend
08:52until an authority
08:54with judicial police functions
08:56You can perform the capture.
08:58And if he has a gun,
09:01because he might react
09:03in terms of an armed attack.
09:05The thing is
09:06We need to analyze,
09:07I imagine that
09:08members of the military forces
09:10They are very clear about that,
09:11that a reaction
09:13with a rifle,
09:14which is a weapon of war
09:16in an urban setting
09:18to react
09:20facing a crime
09:21common or a violent crime,
09:23because it can generate
09:24some collateral damage
09:25catastrophic.
09:35No, I don't share your opinion
09:37in which it has come
09:37deteriorating in recent years.
09:39In fact,
09:39for the past three years
09:40We've been recovering it.
09:41This is shown
09:42the different surveys.
09:43And the case
09:44from Mr. Balanta
09:46which is a case
09:47terrible,
09:48which is a case
09:50That's why
09:50It is under investigation
09:51of the Attorney General's Office
09:52of the Nation
09:53and the General Inspectorate
09:54of the National Police,
09:55They don't even commit it
09:56members of the Police
09:57Metropolitan area of Bogotá.
09:59In fact,
09:59the Metropolitan Police
10:01from Bogotá
10:01is
10:03very diligent.
10:05The same general
10:06Cristancho
10:06assumes knowledge
10:08on the topic
10:09from the first minute
10:10in order to clarify
10:11What time is the situation?
10:12and make the decisions
10:13that correspond
10:14And that's why
10:14we have clarity
10:15who are not members
10:16of the Metropolitan Police
10:17those who participated
10:18at that event.
10:20And from the same
10:21National Police
10:22has been promoted
10:23that case
10:25be investigated
10:25quickly
10:27by the Attorney General's Office
10:28of the Nation
10:29and it's already in their hands
10:29from a prosecutor in Soacha.
10:31Now,
10:32What's going on?
10:33That the work
10:34of the Police
10:34It's a job
10:35supremely complex
10:36because it is a job
10:36all the time
10:38being in the middle
10:39of the people
10:40having to
10:41apply the law,
10:43generate mechanisms
10:44of coexistence
10:44and fight crime.
10:46And being
10:47among the citizens
10:48and having to comply
10:48those functions,
10:49that friction
10:50makes
10:51the construction
10:52trustworthy
10:52always be a challenge
10:54permanent
10:55because of the type
10:57function
10:57that there is.
10:58the military forces
10:59they are normally
11:00in operations
11:01in rural areas,
11:02in the areas
11:03Where are they?
11:03the operations
11:04larger,
11:05They are supporting us
11:06us
11:07in the activity
11:08of citizen security,
11:09but they are not
11:10daily
11:11on the street
11:13dealing
11:14with the citizen,
11:15dealing
11:15with the situation
11:16of coexistence,
11:17dealing with the situation
11:18of crime
11:18and violence.
11:19And you put
11:20to the soldiers
11:20permanently
11:21on the street,
11:22You'll see quickly
11:23that those frictions
11:24They're going to behave
11:25how they behave
11:26with the police.
11:37Dr. Alex,
11:38The first thing to say
11:39It's that Mr.
11:39Mayor Galán
11:40has exercised
11:41a leadership
11:42permanent,
11:43asset,
11:43in very good
11:46communication
11:47with the high courts,
11:48with the prosecutor
11:49general of the nation,
11:51with the judiciary,
11:55with all the actors
11:56of the judicial branch
11:57under a principle.
11:59The problem
12:00They're not here
12:01neither the police,
12:02nor the judges,
12:02nor the prosecutors.
12:03They have
12:04that answer
12:04to a legal framework
12:06that doesn't give them
12:06the tools
12:07to defeat
12:08the crime.
12:08And now,
12:09with the new government
12:10national,
12:11This message
12:11We've also taken it
12:13and we continue
12:14Working on that.
12:15We have it in the mayor's office
12:16with leadership
12:18from the mayor
12:18and from the secretary
12:19legal
12:20a group
12:21of former magistrates,
12:22criminal lawyers
12:24of the highest level
12:25contributing
12:26to analyze
12:27which are
12:28the changes
12:29faster
12:29What can we do?
12:30as a judicial system
12:32that allow us
12:33to energize
12:34the application
12:35of the law
12:36and which ones there would be
12:37to do
12:37in structural ways
12:38to propose them
12:40to the country,
12:41to the judicial branch,
12:42to the national government
12:43to move forward on that.
12:45And that's something.
12:45in what sometimes
12:46the citizens
12:47they fail to understand,
12:48This job
12:49He is very careful
12:50because it doesn't depend
12:51of a decision
12:52of a local government,
12:53It often depends
12:54even
12:55of the highest level
12:56of the State
12:57in a conjunction
12:58of efforts
12:58between Congress,
13:00the national government
13:01and the courts
13:02in a common agreement
13:03before the justice system,
13:05which is what never
13:05has been achieved before
13:06for one simple reason,
13:08because everyone
13:09blame is being assigned,
13:10from the administration
13:11district
13:11Mayor Galán
13:12He has done so clearly,
13:13There's no need to look for blame,
13:14we have to look
13:15What do we have?
13:16that improve
13:17so that the criminals
13:18stop having advantages.
13:29Well, little by little
13:31it must be generated
13:32that strengthening,
13:33Dr. Alex,
13:34I would say that
13:35a good approximation
13:36to keep improving
13:37the conditions
13:39in which the State
13:40and the National Police
13:40is strengthening
13:41intelligence
13:42and criminal investigation,
13:45that does not require
13:45so much volume,
13:46in fact
13:47General Barrera
13:49and General Mujica
13:51director and deputy director
13:53of the National Police
13:54in dialogue
13:54with the mayor
13:55and with me
13:56they announced to us
13:57the arrival
13:58of a reinforcement
13:59police
14:00research
14:01to the Sijín
14:02from Bogotá.
14:03That's very important
14:04because the researchers
14:06represent
14:07a muscle
14:07that energizes
14:09limited capabilities
14:10surveillance,
14:11in addition
14:12for intelligence.
14:13And I believe that
14:14in general
14:15in the country
14:15We have to do
14:16an effort
14:16in rebuilding
14:17the power
14:18of the Sijín
14:19or of the Dijín
14:20of the police
14:21of judicial investigation
14:21and of the police
14:23intelligence.
14:24And progressively
14:25to form
14:26surveillance police
14:27to increase presence
14:28and above all
14:29in the field
14:31of the
14:33community policing
14:34of the police
14:34prevention
14:35what is
14:36one of the
14:37links
14:38most important
14:39of construction
14:40security
14:41and that today
14:41It is weaker.
14:42But that takes
14:43time
14:44and resources
14:46and the country
14:47He needs to be aware
14:48that if it does not allocate
14:49many resources
14:50to revitalize
14:51the capabilities
14:52of the police
14:53and of the forces
14:53military
14:54then
14:55is postponing
14:56the possibility
14:58to put them
14:59to the criminals
15:01and to the criminals
15:02at a disadvantage.
15:03In Bogotá
15:04so
15:04the National Police
15:05has announced
15:06that a number
15:07of researchers
15:08judicial
15:09and of police officers
15:10intelligence
15:11will lead to reinforcement
15:12the local units
15:14and we
15:15we continue
15:15with our
15:16different efforts
15:17to support
15:19the community issue
15:21in terms
15:21of coexistence
15:22in terms
15:23security
15:23with managers
15:24of the order
15:24with managers
15:25of coexistence
15:26and with all
15:27the network of managers
15:27of the city.
15:41Thank you!