00:00So there are questions being asked of the ongoing SIR exercise in Telangana.
00:04Our ground reports have also led to voters speaking out saying that their names have been put out in these
00:10applications, in these Form 7 applications.
00:12Joining me on this broadcast is Sridhivas Reddy, spokesperson of the Congress and N.V. Subhash Rao, spokesperson of the
00:18BJP.
00:19Good evening. Thank you both for your time.
00:21Mr. N.V. Subhash, I'd like to begin with you. So all these allegations, particularly from minority groups in Hyderabad,
00:30suggesting that these mass Form 7s that have been submitted to them have been done by the BJP.
00:37It is not an allegation. It is a fact. We are in the factual position wherein our BLA 1 and
00:45BLA 2 have been identified these illegal immigrants.
00:50And the benefit of doubt is, in a small house of 200 square feet, how can 330 people can live
00:57on that?
00:58The second thing is, the age difference, the difference between the father's age and the daughter's age is so much.
01:06There is no way that they can have the children at that age.
01:09So all these things are very, very clear that the Congress Party, along with the MIM Party, are in hand
01:15in glove.
01:16They wanted to give the shelter to rohy gas in this city, especially in the Bhushirabad, in certain sections of
01:22the polling booths, and in Ghoshamal, and many parts of the, you know, just whole city.
01:27So our BLA's and the 1 and 2 are very, very, you know, focusing on that.
01:34And our aim is, you know, SAR aim is to delete, you know, detect, delete, and then, you know, depot.
01:41No, but sir, is this targeted? I'll give you an example.
01:45In the case of Mushirabad, for example, of those 30 names submitted by the BJP BLA, which you've confirmed has
01:52been done by the BJP BLA,
01:55there are, almost all of them are of Muslim electors.
02:02There's only one who is a Hindu elector. In which case is this targeted, sir?
02:07This is, you know, this is the factual situation in that we are, you know, the BLS and, you know,
02:13the 1 and 2,
02:14we are ready to face the criminal proceedings also.
02:17So if it is found, you know, the truth that we have made a, the issue role in that,
02:23whether, you know, the Congress party or the MIM party will give, you know, votes for them,
02:27that this is, you know, the real or only, you know, the duplicate.
02:31And we appeal to all the Congress party units and, you know, the MIM parties to find out,
02:36because there is a security threat in that.
02:38If you are giving, you know, shelter for this kind of people who doesn't have any, you know, the voting
02:43rights,
02:43if you are not citizens on that, what is the case that you are supposed to do on that?
02:47So let me bring in the Congress there. Sridiwas Reddy is with us on this broadcast.
02:50Mr. Sridiwas Reddy, the BJP is saying, yes, we file those applications.
02:54And that's because these are bogus votes, according to them.
02:57Yeah, I would like to thank Mr. Subhash for admitting the fact that BJP is doing all these.
03:03First of all, these are the Form 7 applications which were given by the BLO.
03:09So, they are all pre-filled Form 7s, printed Form 7s which were given.
03:15This is not only in Mushirabad, it is there in other constituencies like Badur Kura and Goshamahal also.
03:21And the CEO himself has acknowledged that these bulk Form 7s which have been given
03:27are definitely going to be investigated because Congress party would like to understand one thing.
03:36That how did these electoral roll data and who selected these households as well as
03:42who generated these pre-filled forms?
03:45Because these forms are submitted to the Election Commission for deletion of orders.
03:51And we would like to understand who has submitted these pre-filled forms, who printed them as well as…
03:56You are asking multiple questions, sir.
03:58This question of pre-printed forms, Mr. Subhash, would you like to answer to that?
04:02See, is it not your responsibility, the Congress's DLA-1 and DLA-2 responsibility to deduct and delete?
04:10You tell me that you are hand in glove with that.
04:13What we are saying is that SAR is not for the deletion, it is for the addition on that.
04:18So, unless proved, we have full sources on that.
04:22When you say that we are only going to do, only for, you know, certifications of the society on that,
04:27then what is, you know, who stopped on that?
04:29That means you are, you know, entering on that because you did not do, we are doing it.
04:34What is wrong in that?
04:35No, but sir, what is the answer, what is the answer to the question on the pre-printed forms?
04:40The pre-printed Form 7s that have been submitted?
04:44Because, because you did not give on that, I don't have personal information about the pre-printed forms because I
04:50did not see on that.
04:51If the election commission has really, you know, rejected, then, you know, the case has to be verified on that.
04:59How can some people live in the same, same community, same, you know, house number, 30 people, 40 people, is
05:05it really possible on that?
05:06You have to answer my question on that.
05:08Okay, Mr. Srinivas, ready your response to that?
05:10That in one house, if there are 30, 40 people, the BJP is doing their bid, they are saying they
05:14are clearing up these voter rolls.
05:15And ultimately, the election commission will scrutinize.
05:18Yes, yes, in Hyderabad, there are a number of houses where we have such sort of families staying there.
05:25And this family, which is sought to be deleted, 31 names of one single family.
05:32And one of them is a Congress booth-level activist.
05:37And if they want the complete 31 members of that family to be deleted, does that mean that people can't
05:43stay in one house?
05:45If they can't afford to stay in a bigger house, definitely they will stay there.
05:48Mr. Srinivas, ready, you admit on that. You have increased points of both his votes on that.
05:53If you are really capable of doing that, you know…
05:55Mr. Srinivas, we are not opposing the SIR, sir. We are only opposing the wrongful exclusion of people by using
06:05Form 7 unpopuli. We are not accepting that.
06:09Mr. Srinivas, listen. Listen. Whenever the Congress party wins in a certain state, you say that SIR is very good.
06:14Constitution is very good.
06:15election commission is very good. DEM is good. When you lose, when you are about to lose, you are making
06:21a false narrative so that people can understand.
06:24Because of SIR or with the election commission or with the party and the party, we have lost on that.
06:29We are not against the deletions. We are not against the deletions.
06:33No, so then Mr. Srinivas is ready. It is now the Supreme Court judges who are saying that…
06:38No, but Mr. Srinivas is ready. Then is the BJP well within their right?
06:41Sir, are they well within their right to submit these Form 7 applications?
06:45And then ultimately the election commission will decide. They have their own scrutiny. They have their own process.
06:50The BJP is saying we believe these are bogus votes and so we are doing a bit by highlighting it.
06:55Now what they are saying is yes, 30 members of a family living in one home, they are also saying
06:59the age gap doesn't match.
07:03There are many households like that, that the age gap doesn't match. If that is of that sort, let them
07:08investigate into that. Why are they not investigating?
07:11Which is what the election commission will do. We are not asking for any ineligible voter to be there.
07:16But we are only saying that every eligible voter has the right to be allowed to vote.
07:21We cannot… we cannot… just because somebody's whims and fancies, every voter cannot be deleted.
07:26Just because they don't vote for a particular party. They cannot bring up such issues and say that they are
07:32not eligible to vote. How can they say that?
07:36It is… it is… it is very clear…
07:38If there are eligible voters, let the election commission come and check this side and…
07:42How come… how come… you know… how come… how come… you know… how come… in Himatnagar or in Kertabath this
07:46has not been detected?
07:48Why in Ushirabad and why in Goshamal? Because…
07:50Why… why not even in Bahadur Pura…
07:53They have been found on the roadside also.
07:56If you are talking about… you know… if you are talking about certain sections of the society…
07:59where you know Bhakti Antha party is targeting…
08:02If you are talking about Himatnagar and other areas…
08:05probably the… the voter share of your party is more… you do not want to do that there.
08:11That is what… that is what you know… you are… you are very…
08:13By saying that the Congress party is… you are… you are the corrective hearing on that…
08:17You are the corrective hearing on that… see… see… see… see… see…
08:18That is not all it says…
08:19Ok… see… see… see…
08:20I will tell you… I will tell you… in you know… one of the… you know… the municipal numbers…
08:253-5-11-8-3-8… there are 123 votes… 123 votes… 123 votes… in one… one house in there…
08:33And you know… one of the municipal numbers is 109… another municipal number is 99…
08:37How can 99 people live in one small community? You know… it is… it is not a community…
08:42It is a double bedroom house… is it possible? Please understand that…
08:47Please understand that…
08:48The whole list of that…
08:49No… so clearly the BJP is sticking by… the fact that they have challenged these voters…
08:54And they are saying that there is reason for it…
08:56We have done our research… we have looked into these seats…
08:58We have looked into the areas… these pockets… and highlighted it…
09:01In such a case… Mr. Shriwa is ready… you are alleging conspiracy…
09:04But the BJP is saying… we are just doing our duty…
09:07The election commission ultimately will look into it…
09:09We… we are… even the Congress party is not…
09:12against removing ineligible voters…
09:14Let me make it very clear over here…
09:17We are not asking… for any ineligible voters…
09:20So then are you jumping the gun by crime conspiracy…
09:22We are saying… we are saying…
09:23That every eligible voter has a right to vote…
09:25And his constitutional right has to be guaranteed…
09:28It cannot be at the whims and fancies of any political party…
09:31Or any other person…
09:33That any voter loses his franchise to vote…
09:36There is no whims and fancies…
09:38It is a fact…
09:40It is a fact what I am talking…
09:42It is a fact…
09:45Ultimately…
09:45Ultimately…
09:46Like I said…
09:47The election commission will now look into these Form 7…
09:50That is the process…
09:51None of these applications that are submitted…
09:53Are immediately accepted…
09:55And votes deleted…
09:55Not the case…
09:56There is a scrutiny process…
09:57I will see what emerges…
09:59From that scrutiny as well…
10:00But thank you Mr. Sridhivas Reddy…
10:02And Mr. Subhash…
10:03For joining us here…
10:04On India Today…
10:05On this broadcast…
