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00:01Muzyka
00:08Thank you, Prime Minister. Thank you very much.
00:10Much has been said about you in Brussels,
00:12but we have not really heard
00:14that much from you in terms of
00:16who you really are, your perspectives,
00:18your views. You know, and it's not a
00:20secret, and I say this with all due respect, in Brussels
00:22there was a clear conversation
00:24about a Prime Minister
00:25that perhaps was going to break the European
00:28consensus around Ukraine
00:30that would play into the hands
00:31of Russia. You said at the time that was a parody,
00:35a simplification of
00:36your views, and it is clear you won an
00:38election with a landslide. When I look
00:40at the war, Ukraine-Russia, what is
00:42the assessment that you make, and what is the
00:44security assessment that you see from your
00:46perspective coming from Bulgaria?
00:47I believe that this war challenged,
00:50has challenged not only
00:52our security
00:54architecture. It challenged our
00:56industrial base.
00:58It challenged our unity,
01:00it challenged our capability, but
01:02most of all, the war
01:04in Ukraine challenged
01:06our critical thinking
01:08and realistic approach.
01:10It challenged most of all
01:12our ability
01:13to design a feasible
01:16political objectives
01:18and to translate them into a
01:20sound military strategy.
01:21and to define
01:23a desire,
01:25the desired end state,
01:27and to define
01:28the victory.
01:29Most of all,
01:31how to define
01:31the road towards
01:33this victory
01:34and
01:35all the circumstances
01:37we need
01:37to pave down
01:39to achieve
01:40peace,
01:41finally to achieve peace.
01:42This is
01:43the struggle
01:44very often
01:45inside of myself,
01:47talking about
01:49military
01:50and political
01:51analysis
01:52and approach
01:52to the war,
01:54to the conflict,
01:54to the overall
01:55global situation
01:57on the security landscape.
01:58I don't want to put words
01:59in your mouth,
02:00but what you're saying
02:00is the fact that
02:01you question
02:02that there is,
02:04well, no strategy
02:05to victory,
02:06saying victory
02:06and peace
02:06without a plan
02:07is not going to work.
02:08That meant that
02:09you were labeled
02:10pro-Russia?
02:11Is that what you're saying?
02:11It is typical
02:13and it is very sad
02:14that if you divert
02:16from the political
02:17mainstream,
02:19excuse me,
02:20you are labeled
02:20immediately
02:22being a pro-Russian.
02:23This is not the reality.
02:25And you say you're not.
02:25I don't care
02:27about supporting Russia.
02:30I care about
02:31realistic approach
02:32and to finally
02:34find the road
02:36to peace
02:36as soon as possible
02:37because
02:37this war
02:38of attrition
02:40is a strong
02:41challenge
02:42for the peace
02:44in global perspective.
02:46it is a growing risk.
02:48This war
02:49drains our social
02:51and economic systems
02:52almost every day.
02:54So we need to find
02:55the peace,
02:56the road to peace
02:57as soon as possible
02:58and we need to
02:59finally achieve
03:00a balance
03:01between military,
03:03economic
03:03and diplomatic
03:05instruments
03:06because
03:06I don't see
03:07the right balance yet.
03:09And our main priority
03:10should be to speak
03:11and to work for peace.
03:13You remember
03:14when President Trump
03:15took the office
03:17he had immediately
03:19proposal.
03:20He offered Ukraine
03:21and Russia
03:22ceasefire immediately,
03:24sit down
03:25at the negotiation table
03:26and
03:27sign a peace.
03:30What was his word?
03:31His word was that
03:32there will be no
03:34better condition
03:36for peace
03:37in the future.
03:38and his
03:40assessment
03:40was that
03:41the situation
03:42will get
03:42worse.
03:45On the other
03:46side
03:46we had another
03:48offer
03:48to continue
03:49fighting
03:50of course.
03:50Who put the offer?
03:51Let's put it up here.
03:52European leadership.
03:53Okay, so you said
03:54the European leader
03:54said we'll continue
03:55the work.
03:55Absolutely.
03:56You remember
03:56this they said
03:57we must continue
03:58fighting.
03:59Yes, I support this.
04:01We must deliver
04:02we must deliver
04:04more and more
04:06weapons and money.
04:07So what is the result
04:08year and a half
04:10later?
04:11I will tell you
04:11perhaps two things.
04:12I'm not Ursula von der Leyen
04:14and I think that is clear
04:14everyone can see it.
04:15I'm not
04:16but she would have
04:17said at the time
04:18she didn't say
04:19stop fighting
04:19she said
04:20weapons for Ukraine
04:21to equalize the field.
04:23I'm not envisioning
04:23Ursula von der Leyen.
04:24I'm not envisioning
04:26any European leader
04:27but that was
04:28a common
04:29accepted approach
04:31for that time.
04:32Now we see a result.
04:34Hundreds of thousands
04:37more victims.
04:40Devastation of the country.
04:42Do you know
04:43I'm afraid about
04:44the latest Russian
04:48strategy
04:49because they have
04:51shifted their strategy.
04:52But is the answer
04:53to them saying
04:54we give you less
04:55because what the
04:55Europeans would say
04:56the answer is not
04:57to say we cut
04:58military aid
04:59or equipment.
05:00It's the opposite.
05:01It is not enough
05:02because we don't
05:03have enough
05:03on stock already.
05:05We have delivered
05:06everything we had
05:07in stock
05:08and our
05:09defense industry
05:10needs time
05:11to produce it.
05:13And what is going on?
05:14That will be
05:15extremely heavy winter
05:16because now
05:17Ukraine cannot
05:18oppose enough
05:19successfully enough
05:21this intrusion
05:22of ballistic missiles
05:23and thousands
05:25of drones.
05:26They cannot
05:27counter these
05:28drones anymore
05:29with light
05:30arms
05:30and small
05:32men
05:34carried
05:37defense systems.
05:38So it is
05:39a huge challenge
05:40and
05:41if
05:42it continues
05:43like that
05:44this will reflect
05:45from inside
05:46to outside
05:47from the center
05:48of the country
05:49and industrial
05:50power
05:51back to the front line.
05:52So what is the path
05:53then?
05:54If you had it your way,
05:55what is the way
05:55forward diplomatically?
05:57My way is to achieve
05:59this tiny balance,
06:01extremely needed
06:02balance again
06:03between military
06:04economic
06:04and diplomatic
06:05instruments.
06:06We have not
06:07exhausted
06:07the power
06:08of diplomacy.
06:10We need to do
06:11and to speak
06:12more about diplomacy.
06:13What do you mean
06:14by that?
06:14Because over the weekend
06:15we saw the German
06:16foreign minister
06:16took a meeting
06:18with his Russian
06:18counterpart.
06:19In the end,
06:20I don't see any
06:21progress that came
06:21out of that.
06:22I do see that
06:23the Russian foreign
06:24minister played games
06:25and to some extent
06:27insulted his
06:27counterpart
06:28after the meeting
06:29and I don't see
06:30that moving
06:30the goalpost.
06:31So is this a question
06:32of the people
06:33who should conduct
06:34democracy or diplomacy
06:35are not the good ones?
06:36Other people should go?
06:38Who should go?
06:39I think some years ago
06:40my good friend
06:42the Prime Minister
06:43of Belgium
06:43at that time
06:44Xavier Bettel
06:44stated this clearly.
06:47We must stop
06:48speaking about Russia.
06:50We must start
06:53talking with Russia.
06:55So we need to hear
06:56the concerns
06:58of both sides
06:59because
07:00at the final end
07:02yes of course
07:03we need
07:03and we should
07:05support
07:05continue supporting
07:06Ukraine
07:07but the most important
07:09is to prepare
07:09the conditions
07:10for peace.
07:12and we should
07:13know that
07:13there is a limit
07:14of just delivering
07:16weapons
07:17and supporting
07:18because
07:19the final
07:20peace setup
07:22will be done
07:22by diplomacy
07:23not by delivering
07:25weapons.
07:25So our call
07:26is
07:27to listen more
07:28to each other
07:29to open the lines
07:30of communication
07:31and the problem
07:32is that
07:33no one
07:34is raising
07:35the question
07:36about
07:37nuclear risk.
07:38Does it exist?
07:40Maybe not.
07:42I don't know
07:43but this is
07:45a risk.
07:46All of us
07:46we speak
07:47about
07:47conventional
07:48war fighting
07:49support Ukraine
07:51conventionally
07:52but
07:53we have been
07:54trying to achieve
08:17over the biggest
08:20nuclear power
08:22without having
08:23capabilities
08:24capabilities to
08:24counter
08:24their
08:25supersonic
08:26weapons.
08:26There is
08:27a risk
08:28and we need
08:29to calculate
08:30at what
08:31extent
08:31and how
08:32is it
08:33possible
08:33at all.
08:34I don't
08:34believe in
08:35this
08:35but we should
08:36take this
08:38into account.
08:39We should
08:39not neglect
08:40this.
08:41How much
08:41can we
08:42press
08:42Russia
08:42without Russia
08:43reacting
08:44with something
08:44else?
08:45I was listening
08:46also to
08:46I don't want
08:47to repeat
08:48to repeat
08:49I'm not
08:50advocate
08:51of Putin
08:51and Lavrov
08:52at all
08:53at all
08:54but
08:54he warned
08:56a month ago
08:57I guess
08:58that if
08:59there is
08:59a war
09:00between
09:01Europe
09:01and Russia
09:03this war
09:04will be
09:04totally
09:05different
09:06and very
09:07short.
09:08That was
09:08the warning.
09:09This is a threat.
09:10I don't
09:10accept
09:11this type
09:12of speaking
09:13but they
09:14speak this.
09:14So you condemn
09:14it.
09:15You condemn
09:15that statement.
09:16You want
09:16to listen
09:17to this.
09:18No, I just
09:18wonder
09:18when you
09:18hear that
09:19statement
09:19what would
09:20you say?
09:20You say
09:20I don't
09:21accept
09:21this.
09:21I say
09:22that
09:22there is
09:25a nuclear
09:26card
09:28and
09:28when
09:29Russia
09:30when Putin
09:30feels
09:32strong
09:33he doesn't
09:34speak
09:34about this.
09:35When Russia
09:36feels weak
09:36that happened
09:37in this war
09:38about some
09:38years ago
09:39they start
09:40playing
09:40again
09:41with the
09:42nuclear
09:42card.
09:44So just
09:45I'm
09:46reminding
09:46that we
09:48need to
09:48have this
09:49into account.
09:50We cannot
09:51close our
09:52eyes that
09:52there are
09:53nuclear
09:54weapons
09:54on our
09:55continent
09:57there are
09:58nuclear
09:58weapons
09:59in the
10:00arsenal of
10:01Russia
10:01and we
10:02this
10:03is part
10:05of the
10:05game
10:06calculation
10:06and my
10:07appeal is
10:08that
10:08no one
10:09is speaking
10:10about this.
10:11No one
10:12is taking
10:15account of
10:16this risk.
10:17We have
10:17multiple
10:17analysts here
10:18who said
10:19they really
10:19believe to
10:20that extent
10:20it's a
10:21card that is
10:22played
10:22politically
10:22because the
10:23Russians
10:23think or
10:25seem to
10:25think weak
10:26leaders will
10:26get scared
10:27by it.
10:29You disagree.
10:30That's clear.
10:31Let's look at
10:32the eastern
10:32flank.
10:33There's a
10:34perception that
10:35the security
10:35picture for
10:36the eastern
10:37flank
10:37certainly
10:37for the
10:38Baltics
10:38and Poland
10:39has deteriorated
10:40over the
10:40past few
10:41months.
10:42We've also
10:42seen the
10:43drone
10:43violations of
10:45the airspace
10:45what happened
10:46at the
10:46German
10:47airport
10:48Romania
10:48we've seen
10:49constant drone
10:50violations
10:51on and on
10:52and on
10:52Is this
10:53now a time
10:53to rethink
10:54if this
10:55is hybrid
10:56warfare
10:57and I
10:57wonder if
10:58you use
10:58that word
10:58warfare
10:59yourself
10:59is this
11:00not a time
11:01for the
11:01Europeans
11:01to redefine
11:02what hybrid
11:04deterrence
11:04to this
11:05warfare
11:05should look
11:06like?
11:06You mentioned
11:07hybrid
11:07warfare
11:08with drones
11:08and other
11:10types
11:10of course
11:12it is
11:13extremely
11:13difficult
11:14to counter
11:15these drones
11:16why?
11:17It is
11:17extremely
11:18difficult
11:18to detect
11:19them
11:19they fly
11:20low
11:20they use
11:21non-metal
11:22materials
11:23it is
11:24extremely
11:24difficult
11:25to detect
11:26on the
11:26radars
11:27so if
11:28you apply
11:29anti-drone
11:30systems
11:30they need
11:32to be
11:32very
11:33congested
11:34on your
11:34boiler
11:34that means
11:35a lot
11:36a lot
11:38a huge
11:38number
11:39of such
11:39systems
11:40and their
11:41integration
11:42and this
11:42is a huge
11:43technical
11:44challenge
11:44to all
11:45of us
11:45and that's
11:46why my
11:47call is
11:47to think
11:48about this
11:49balance
11:49about
11:50different
11:51instruments
11:51of power
11:52and to
11:53design
11:54to formulate
11:55a feasible
11:56end state
11:57of this
11:58war
11:58because we
11:59have
11:59changed
12:01our
12:01desert
12:02end state
12:03about
12:04seven to
12:04eight times
12:05I don't
12:05remember
12:06even
12:06the formulation
12:07of
12:07these
12:08end states
12:09from the
12:10beginning
12:10of the
12:10war
12:10that
12:11position
12:11is still
12:12a minority
12:12in the
12:12European
12:13Council
12:13you say
12:14it's very
12:14different
12:14or very
12:15difficult
12:15to intercept
12:16the drones
12:17the constant
12:18violations
12:19that we're
12:19seeing
12:19repeatedly
12:19is it
12:20because
12:20the European
12:21and NATO
12:21leadership
12:22is weak
12:22or is it
12:23because
12:23they're not
12:23sending
12:23the right
12:24message
12:24if you
12:25escalate
12:25so can
12:25we
12:27so what
12:27is your
12:28proposal
12:28to send
12:29a very
12:30hard
12:30warning
12:32to Russia
12:33I agree
12:34okay
12:35what about
12:36escalation
12:36so you
12:37so you
12:38just accept
12:38they can
12:38do whatever
12:39they want
12:39they can
12:39put explosives
12:40on an
12:41airport
12:42what's the
12:42alternative
12:43no
12:44my
12:44alternative
12:45is to
12:46open the
12:47lines of
12:47communication
12:49to sit
12:50down
12:50and to
12:51discuss
12:51this is
12:52my
12:52proposal
12:52and
12:53sooner
12:54or later
12:55it will
12:56be achieved
12:57and again
12:58it depends
12:59this is a war
13:00of attrition
13:00it reflects
13:01our economies
13:02it reflects
13:03the price
13:03of the
13:04fuel
13:04the price
13:04of the
13:05gas
13:06it reflects
13:07the shortage
13:08of fuel
13:09and gas
13:09in the
13:10European Union
13:11as well
13:12my question
13:12however
13:13on the
13:13money
13:13you will
13:14have to
13:14be in
13:14a consensus
13:15question
13:16both
13:17at NATO
13:18and at
13:18a European
13:19Union
13:19level
13:20when you
13:20get told
13:21at NATO
13:21you have
13:22to pay
13:225%
13:23you have
13:23to buy
13:24weapons
13:25that are
13:25still
13:25continue
13:26to be
13:26American
13:27at the
13:27same
13:27time
13:27we need
13:28to build
13:28our own
13:28European
13:29industry
13:30how do
13:31you go
13:31about this
13:32because
13:32what I
13:32see
13:33from
13:33the
13:33outside
13:34is
13:36you
13:36pay
13:36for
13:36American
13:37weapons
13:37while
13:37trying
13:38to
13:38build
13:38your
13:38industry
13:39while
13:39talking
13:39about
13:39made
13:40in
13:40Europe
13:40you
13:40praise
13:41your
13:41visit
13:41with
13:41Macron
13:41but
13:42to me
13:43these
13:43are
13:43two
13:43strategies
13:43that
13:44at
13:44some
13:44point
13:44it's
13:44difficult
13:44to keep
13:45them
13:45on
13:45one
13:46lane
13:46because
13:46they're
13:47quite
13:47contradictory
13:47so
13:48which
13:48one
13:48is
13:48it
13:48going
13:49to be
13:49a
13:49made
13:49in
13:49Europe
13:50preference
13:50or not
13:50the
13:51problem
13:51is
13:52that
13:52European
13:53defense
13:54industry
13:54is
13:54highly
13:55fragmented
13:55and
13:56of course
13:57we need
13:58to strengthen
13:58our defense
13:59industries
14:00safe
14:01instrument
14:01is
14:02extremely
14:02good
14:02instrument
14:03Bulgaria
14:03is
14:04very
14:04active
14:05participant
14:06in this
14:06would you
14:07want a round
14:07two
14:07there's been
14:08debate
14:08that maybe
14:09if the
14:09first round
14:09was successful
14:10there could
14:10be a
14:10second
14:11one
14:11yes
14:11there could
14:12be
14:12and
14:12this
14:14is
14:14the
14:14right
14:14approach
14:15to
14:15strengthen
14:15our
14:16industrial
14:17base
14:17to work
14:17together
14:18to
14:19communicate
14:19to coordinate
14:20and this
14:21is the
14:21future
14:21for
14:22Europe
14:22but as
14:23the
14:23prime
14:23minister
14:23of
14:23Bulgaria
14:24if you
14:24have
14:24to
14:24sign
14:24a
14:24contract
14:25and
14:25in
14:26the
14:26future
14:26you
14:26have
14:26two
14:26weapons
14:27that
14:27ultimately
14:27do
14:28the
14:28same
14:28job
14:28one
14:29is
14:29European
14:29one
14:29is
14:30made
14:30in
14:30the
14:30US
14:30would
14:31you
14:31say
14:31of
14:32course
14:32we
14:32go
14:32for
14:32the
14:32European
14:33first
14:34we
14:34need
14:34a
14:34European
14:35preference
14:35yes
14:36of
14:36course
14:36this
14:36is
14:37part
14:37of
14:38the
14:38European
14:38strategic
14:40autonomy
14:41concept
14:41and
14:42I
14:42fully
14:42agree
14:42that
14:43and
14:43we
14:43have
14:44been
14:44working
14:44for
14:44this
14:45we
14:46need
14:46to
14:46strengthen
14:47the
14:47European
14:48pillar
14:49of
14:49NATO
14:50because
14:50we
14:51need
14:51to
14:51take
14:51care
14:52about
14:52our
14:53defense
14:53capabilities
14:55and
14:56we
14:56need
14:56to
14:56do
14:57it
14:57in
14:57a
14:57smart
14:58way
14:58we
14:59cannot
14:59exclude
15:00the
15:00United
15:00States
15:00because
15:01United
15:01States
15:01is
15:02a
15:02leader
15:03in
15:04defense
15:04technologies
15:05we
15:06need
15:06to
15:06cooperate
15:07but
15:08of
15:08course
15:08we
15:08need
15:08to
15:09protect
15:09our
15:10defense
15:10industries
15:11otherwise
15:11they
15:12and
15:13for
15:13made
15:13in
15:14Europe
15:14is
15:14it
15:15the
15:15right
15:15way
15:16to
15:16put
15:16this
15:16in
15:17writing
15:17do
15:17we
15:18need
15:18those
15:18percentages
15:19do
15:20we
15:20need
15:20that
15:20made
15:21in
15:21Europe
15:21by
15:22law
15:22we
15:23need
15:23to
15:23operate
15:23like
15:24this
15:24otherwise
15:24we
15:24continue
15:25our
15:26strategic
15:26dependences
15:27on
15:27the
15:27US
15:28are
15:28you
15:28in
15:28favor
15:28of
15:29legislating
15:29in
15:29this
15:29way
15:29we
15:30cannot
15:31immediately
15:33guarantee
15:33our
15:34security
15:35by
15:35ourselves
15:36even
15:37talking
15:37about
15:38the
15:38nuclear
15:38shield
15:39we
15:39cannot
15:40go
15:40without
15:40the
15:41United
15:41States
15:41of
15:42America
15:42because
15:42they
15:42provide
15:43the
15:44essence
15:44of
15:45the
15:45core
15:45defense
15:46capabilities
15:47in
15:47NATO
15:47we
15:48should
15:48it
15:49is
15:49absolutely
15:50clear
15:50it
15:51will
15:51take
15:51time
15:52for
15:52us
15:53to
15:54recover
15:54to
15:55renovate
15:56our
15:56industries
15:57our
15:58industrial
15:58base
15:58our
15:59technology
16:00development
16:01should
16:01Ukraine
16:01be a
16:02core
16:02part
16:02of
16:02it
16:02we
16:03heard
16:03from
16:03the
16:04Ukrainians
16:04saying
16:04the
16:05Europeans
16:05will
16:05need
16:05us
16:05more
16:06than
16:06at
16:06this
16:06point
16:06we
16:06need
16:07them
16:07on
16:07the
16:07technology
16:07advancement
16:08should
16:08we
16:08get
16:08them
16:11been
16:11already
16:12a
16:12part
16:12of
16:12this
16:12many
16:14European
16:15defense
16:15industries
16:16have
16:16already
16:17invested
16:18look at
16:18Rheinmetall
16:19look at
16:19other
16:20companies
16:20they have
16:21presence
16:22they have
16:22invested
16:23they have
16:24developed
16:24strong
16:25industrial
16:26sites
16:27and presence
16:27in Ukraine
16:28Ukraine
16:29has been
16:30sharing
16:31latest
16:32state-of-the-art
16:33drone
16:34technologies
16:34they have
16:35developed
16:35through
16:36experimenting
16:37them
16:37every day
16:38on the
16:38front line
16:39so as an
16:40equal
16:40partner
16:40anyway
16:41the Ukrainians
16:41will say
16:42we will
16:42be joining
16:42the
16:43European
16:43Union
16:43so this
16:44debate
16:44at some
16:45point
16:46of course
16:48Western
16:48Balkans
16:50Ukraine
16:51Moldova
16:51all of
16:52them
16:52they have
16:53place
16:54and their
16:54future
16:54is
16:55full
16:55integration
16:56into
16:56the
16:57European
16:57family
16:57this is
16:58obvious
16:58this is
16:59of course
16:59as a
17:00final
17:00question
17:01when we
17:02hear
17:02NATO
17:023.0
17:03the impression
17:04that I
17:05get
17:05nobody
17:06will say
17:07publicly
17:07with these
17:08words
17:08but
17:08ultimately
17:09it means
17:09that
17:09we are
17:11going to
17:11have to
17:11pay
17:12big time
17:12in NATO
17:13we are
17:13going to
17:14still
17:14have to
17:14continue
17:14for
17:15or pay
17:15for
17:15those
17:16US
17:16weapons
17:16otherwise
17:17there will
17:17be a
17:17retaliation
17:18for the
17:18administration
17:18but then
17:19we're going
17:20to have
17:20to do
17:20all the
17:21hard work
17:21of
17:22the
17:22soldiers
17:23all the
17:24work
17:24that means
17:25real
17:26defense
17:26will be
17:27us
17:27and
17:27ultimately
17:28all that
17:28will be
17:28left
17:29is the
17:30US
17:30nuclear
17:31umbrella
17:31that
17:32will
17:32protect
17:33the
17:33Europeans
17:34and still
17:35be there
17:35as a
17:36last
17:36resort
17:36in
17:36NATO
17:37that
17:37is
17:37essentially
17:38what
17:38NATO
17:383.0
17:39means
17:39for
17:39the
17:39Europeans
17:40is that
17:41how
17:41you see
17:41it
17:41too
17:41you say
17:42you're
17:42not
17:43politically
17:43correct
17:43you're
17:44not
17:44in
17:44the
17:44mainstream
17:44so
17:44I'm
17:45sure
17:45you can
17:45speak
17:45freely
17:46on this
17:46we
17:46when
17:47we
17:47speak
17:48about
17:48NATO
17:493.0
17:50and
17:51the
17:51defense
17:51capabilities
17:52of
17:53Europe
17:53we
17:54should
17:54put
17:54on
17:55the
17:55table
17:57economic
17:57part
17:58social
17:59part
17:59we
18:00should
18:00put
18:00tariffs
18:01on
18:01the
18:01table
18:02we
18:02should
18:03put
18:03European
18:04cars
18:05talking
18:05with
18:05our
18:06most
18:06important
18:07strategic
18:07ally
18:08the
18:08United
18:08States
18:08we
18:10should
18:10put
18:10because
18:11when
18:12we
18:12speak
18:13about
18:13defense
18:13capabilities
18:14it
18:14means
18:15technology
18:15and
18:16industrial
18:16development
18:17it
18:18should
18:18not
18:18go
18:19just
18:19for
18:19military
18:19equipment
18:20it
18:20should
18:20go
18:20for
18:21everything
18:21we
18:22cooperate
18:23with
18:23the
18:23United
18:23States
18:24so
18:24tariffs
18:25are
18:26part
18:26of
18:27this
18:27approach
18:27and
18:28Europe
18:28should
18:29put
18:29everything
18:30on
18:31the
18:31table
18:31your
18:32analysis
18:32of
18:32NATO
18:333.0
18:33I
18:33still
18:34didn't
18:34fully
18:34understand
18:35it
18:35because
18:35you
18:35said
18:35we
18:36need
18:36to
18:36put
18:36our
18:37economic
18:37relationship
18:38and
18:38even
18:38tariffs
18:39the
18:39only
18:39tariffs
18:39are
18:40seen
18:40are
18:40the
18:40Americans
18:41and
18:41European
18:41products
18:42so
18:45more
18:46into
18:46NATO
18:46I
18:47am
18:47just
18:47wondering
18:47from
18:48your
18:48military
18:49background
18:49when
18:49you
18:50look
18:50at
18:50this
18:50NATO
18:503.0
18:51and
18:51you
18:51say
18:51this
18:52is
18:52the
18:52plan
18:52for
18:52the
18:52next
18:5315
18:53years
18:53what
18:54does
18:54it
18:54look
18:54like
18:54do
18:55you
18:55have
18:55US
18:55troops
18:55stationed
18:56in
18:56Europe
18:56or
18:56you
18:57won't
18:58I
18:58think
18:58we
18:59need
18:59also
19:01more
19:02effective
19:03diplomacy
19:04speaking
19:04with
19:05the
19:05United
19:05States
19:05so
19:06to
19:06bring
19:07everything
19:07in
19:08one
19:08basket
19:08because
19:09everything
19:10is
19:10strongly
19:11connected
19:12we
19:12cannot
19:15from
19:16technology
19:17from
19:17science
19:18from
19:18human
19:19capital
19:19from
19:20industrial
19:21base
19:21and
19:22all
19:24the
19:24products
19:24with
19:25dual
19:25usage
19:26and
19:26they
19:26mix
19:26especially
19:27in
19:27AI
19:28and
19:28we
19:29are
19:29lagging
19:29behind
19:29here
19:30in
19:30Europe
19:30in
19:30AI
19:31we
19:32should
19:32cooperate
19:33more
19:35strongly
19:36with
19:36the
19:36United
19:37States
19:37about
19:38AI
19:39and
19:40we
19:41should
19:41go
19:41together
19:42as
19:42strategic
19:42allies
19:43and
19:43partners
19:43because
19:45there
19:45are
19:46some
19:46other
19:46movements
19:47around
19:47the
19:47world
19:47in
19:48this
19:48direction
19:48as
19:48well
19:49well
19:49Prime Minister
19:50thank you
19:50so much
19:51for your
19:51time
19:51you've
19:52been
19:52very
19:53generous
19:53with
19:53your
19:53time
19:53so
19:54thank you
19:54very much
19:54for
19:54joining
19:55us
19:55thanks