00:00I'm joined by BJP leader Pawan Kumar Gupta.
00:02He raised an important issue on the names of BJP members
00:07who had staged walkout in 2000
00:09when the autonomy resolution brought by Farah Abdullah led comment
00:13was passed in the Assembly.
00:15Yesterday, during the debate on statehood resolution,
00:19Minister for Education, Sakina Ittu,
00:22named some of the BJP leaders,
00:24including his father's name,
00:27that he voted for the autonomy resolution.
00:30Today, these remarks were expunged from the Assembly records.
00:35Sir, what actually is the autonomy resolution
00:39and the BJP stand on the autonomy resolution in 2000?
00:43You see that this resolution was passed 26 years ago,
00:48on 26th of June 2000.
00:51I never knew what had happened at that time.
00:54But while I came yesterday here,
00:58Mr. Mir Saibullah, he was saying the same thing.
01:02And on the floor of the House,
01:05Madam Skinna Ittu realized that Lala Shipchan Gupta,
01:09he had sided with the autonomy report
01:11and he sided with the government.
01:13He had voted in favor of the same.
01:14I hotly contested this point.
01:16Then again, Mr. Altaaf Kallu raised the same remarks in the House.
01:22I had protested vehemently that these remarks are totally irrelevant.
01:30A man who remained in one party from 49 to 2008 till his birth.
01:36And four times MLA.
01:38And he was a leader of BJP group.
01:40And that was the largest group in the Assembly.
01:42Although that was not recognized at that time,
01:44the opposition had to have 20 members.
01:47Then they had only eight members.
01:50Then I searched the entire courts of autonomy debates.
01:54In the autonomy debates,
01:55you will find he has made a wonderful speech alleging.
01:58And at one point,
01:59he had said,
02:01even Dr. Varudullah is against terrorism,
02:05but his ministers are never criticizing the terrorists.
02:09And they are only blaming the security forces,
02:12but Dr. Varudullah does not blame.
02:14He had the magnanimity to say all these things.
02:17And this is a six-page speech.
02:19In the last,
02:21the first walkout he made,
02:22once the resolution was announced in the House,
02:27in the month of April,
02:29he staged a walkout,
02:30protesting that this resolution should not be brought.
02:33Then secondly,
02:34once the debate began on June 20,
02:36he again staged a walkout,
02:38that is recorded in the assembly proceedings.
02:40Then he started participating in the discussion.
02:43He made very strong interventions
02:45during the entire debate,
02:47once other members were speaking.
02:49He had made strong interventions.
02:50Then once he was supposed to speak,
02:53before Dr. Varudullah,
02:54being the leader of the largest party,
02:56he spoke so well and so against the autonomy report.
02:59He had discussed that
03:01CAG jurisdiction will not be there,
03:04Supreme Court will not be there,
03:05CEC will not be there.
03:06He had discussed so many points.
03:08And he vehementally criticised it.
03:10And every paper has reported it.
03:12Then in the end,
03:14the motion was put to vote.
03:15They,
03:16while saying no,
03:17they walked out.
03:18This is recorded.
03:19While opposing,
03:20they say they walked out.
03:21Opposing,
03:22what happens?
03:22Opposed,
03:22it happens that when they announced it,
03:25we also had a walkout.
03:26So it means that we are already against him.
03:29So the statement of the statement,
03:30the mistake of the statement,
03:31I was against him.
03:33the speaker has expunged the remarks from the assembly records.
03:37So the,
03:38Faruk Abdullah,
03:39after Faruk Abdullah intervened and sent a cheat to chief minister.
03:41So are you satisfied with the reply?
03:44No,
03:44I am not satisfied with the reply.
03:45The reply should have come from Madam Skinner too,
03:48expressing strong apologies that he was not well informed.
03:52And he,
03:52and he apologises in this house that he had uttered something,
03:56which was malicious in nature,
03:58maligning the,
03:59amaze my father,
04:00and totally rupturing my reputation.
04:02Also,
04:03I had a reputation of my own.
04:07My family is there in this politics for so many years.
04:10We are never enjoyed such type of,
04:12a allegation has been attached to my father.
04:16Even today,
04:17once I were passing through the gallery,
04:19Dr. Faruk Abdullah said,
04:21I had the greatest respect for your late father,
04:25Shri Shivchan Gupta.
04:26He was a great facility.
04:28And these people,
04:30if she says,
04:32is this the contention of the cabinet,
04:37a minister,
04:38there is a collective responsibility.
04:40Anyhow,
04:40it is very good that,
04:41that slip was given by Dr. Faruk Abdullah,
04:44from the business gallery,
04:46that was given to Shri Umaruk Abdullah ji.
04:49He had corrected something,
04:52but he said,
04:53they worked out.
04:53Here it is written,
04:55while opposing,
04:56they worked out.
04:57This is not my record.
04:59This is none of my record.
05:00I have moved the privileged motion,
05:02against both of them.
05:03Against whom?
05:04Against Madam Skinna Itto,
05:06and
05:08Altaap Kallu ji.
05:09And,
05:10I will press for the
05:12impeachment motion.
05:13If they,
05:14if they feel,
05:16they have done a wrong,
05:17they should have stated in the house.
05:19They should have stated in the house,
05:21that,
05:21over remarks,
05:24were totally wrong.
05:26It was not based on the assembly record.
05:28This assembly record,
05:30speaks,
05:30very clearly,
05:32about the things,
05:32which I have already shown to you.
05:34You can,
05:35go to,
05:36the autonomy,
05:37debate reports.
05:38It is a 274 page report.
05:40You can find some very important interventions made there.
05:44But the chief minister,
05:45Umar Abdullah,
05:46has already corrected,
05:47and set the record situation.
05:48He named your father.
05:49I actually wanted to,
05:52speak more on the issue.
05:54I had even said,
05:55I will resign from this house,
05:57and retire from public life.
05:59If my father has said so.
06:01Will,
06:01Madam Skinna Itto and Altaap,
06:03Kallu will also commit the same thing,
06:04if they are proven wrong?
06:06Dekhi hai,
06:07you see,
06:08they were supposed to offer,
06:10a very simple apology,
06:11that we were misinformed,
06:13by a media report.
06:14We say sorry,
06:16ke we were misled by their report.
06:18If these things have not happened,
06:20we retract our remarks,
06:22and they will be explained,
06:23and we feel extremely sorry for the same.
06:25Even a small regret would have,
06:27made them magnanimous.
06:29But they have not uttered a single word.
06:31They have not uttered a single word.
06:32So,
06:32by this 12 page,
06:35that breach of the law,
06:36I provided yesterday night,
06:38I have sent it to the speaker,
06:40through legislative secretary,
06:42and I will press it.
06:43And,
06:44I will also tell you one thing.
06:46There is one,
06:48journalist,
06:48Ahmed Ali Fias.
06:50He has,
06:51he has reported,
06:52and he has,
06:52on the Twitter,
06:53I have,
06:54I have read that,
06:55he has said,
06:56ke eight MLA's voted for the BJP,
06:58two,
06:58two of the MLA's sons are there,
07:00in this assembly.
07:01I am going to file,
07:03not only a,
07:04civil suit,
07:05but a criminal suit,
07:06against him,
07:07maybe at two or three courts.
07:08He will face the rough weather,
07:10of his life,
07:11because he has committed,
07:12a biggest flunder,
07:13by misleading the entire JNK,
07:15by his,
07:16that tweet,
07:17or,
07:17I do not know,
07:18tweet ki ha us ne,
07:20I know,
07:21I do not know,
07:22whether he has tweeted,
07:22but I have,
07:23only read the context of his,
07:24whatever he has written.
07:25He has done,
07:26the greatest disservice,
07:27to a late personality,
07:31who had,
07:33vehemently,
07:33opposed his autonomy resolution,
07:35and he said,
07:36ke he has supported it.
07:38So,
07:39my humble request is,
07:41ke that,
07:41if they offer an apology,
07:43in writing to me,
07:45if they don't offer,
07:46and they should go to the press also.
07:47Otherwise,
07:48I am going to,
07:50press this,
07:51because,
07:52I today challenge the matter.
07:54Now,
07:54there are two things,
07:55if you repeat this statement,
07:57before,
07:58intervention of,
07:59CM,
08:00I asked madame,
08:01if you have got the guts,
08:03come and say,
08:04outside the floor of the house.
08:06I will tell you,
08:07how I deal the matter.
08:08How I can see you.
08:10But,
08:11she started,
08:12she,
08:12she kept laughing,
08:14and,
08:15and she said nothing.
08:17So,
08:18I am grateful,
08:19to the,
08:22Dr. Haru Dulla.
08:23He was,
08:24magnanimous in his approach,
08:25that,
08:26he had set the record straight,
08:28because,
08:29he is a witness,
08:30to that event.
08:32He had known,
08:33how Shivjan Gupta,
08:34had debated,
08:35against the,
08:36autonomy resolution,
08:37how he has,
08:37bugged out,
08:38and how we are,
08:39batted for the,
08:40autonomy resolution.
08:41That is a different matter.
08:43There,
08:44it is a battle of ideas.
08:45People,
08:46after all,
08:47different political parties,
08:49have different political ideologies.
08:50Everybody has got a right,
08:51to say his own thing,
08:52and he is free to say so.
08:54And his freedom of expression,
08:55is already preserved,
08:56under section 30.
08:59MLA is free to speak,
09:00anything in the house.
09:01But,
09:01he,
09:01it must be supported,
09:03by facts.
09:04Thank you,
09:04Baraj.
09:06So,
09:07the statehood resolution,
09:08that was passed,
09:08by the Jumin Kashmir,
09:09Legislative Assembly,
09:10yesterday,
09:11has revived the debate,
09:12on the autonomy,
09:13also that was passed,
09:14in 2000,
09:15by the,
09:16Faruk Abdullah-led government.
09:17In fact,
09:18Faruk Abdullah,
09:18today,
09:19showed up,
09:19in the,
09:20in the speaker's gallery,
09:21and he set the record,
09:23straight,
09:23by passing a cheat,
09:25to the Chief Minister,
09:25Omar Abdullah,
09:26saying,
09:27that those BJP MLA's,
09:29who were part of,
09:302000,
09:302000 Assembly,
09:32rest of while,
09:33Jumin Kashmir Legislative Assembly,
09:34had not,
09:35supported the autonomy resolution,
09:37but in fact,
09:37they had staged,
09:39and opposed,
09:39the resolution,
09:40alongside,
09:41Congress MLA's.
09:43With,
09:43cameraman,
09:44Sajad Ameen,
09:45Mawazam Mohamad,
09:46for ETV Bharat,
09:47from Jumin Kashmir,
09:48Legislative Assembly,
09:49in Srinagar.
