00:00so i do want to remind people we are happy to take your calls about u of m we've asked
00:05the
00:05question third of the way through the year is this a good team because they have all the year
00:10markings of a bad one uh and happy to continue that but worry about your own school okay we're
00:15about to worry about our own school i i'm gonna say some things i'm not asking anyone to agree with
00:21me but look saturday for michigan state was completely and utterly embarrassing okay and
00:34and i'm not mad at fans you can do what you want to do you can show up you can
00:39not show up
00:39uh i'm not going to make jokes about the stadium although i could the point is i have deep concerns
00:48you are staring three and nine down the barrel of a gun because what michigan state did and i said
00:57it
00:57then and i get to say it now i can like pat fitzgerald in a vacuum i can like the
01:04man i can like what he
01:05represents i can like what he did in a dead era of college football while still telling you i have
01:15deep concerns about the hiring well here's where we are from what i said from week one i stand by
01:23this team has no talent why because you hired an unemployed person who didn't have players to bring
01:31with him and who hasn't participated in this new world of college football and i don't care about some
01:38wondrous interview puff piece he did with espn where he told you he was taking notes like
01:46carly ursay gordon but the bottom line is he either didn't have money to spend or he doesn't
01:52know how to spend it because this team is talentless it's garbage they are horrific to watch and right
01:59now you will not be favored in any game the rest of the season sans the game against rutgers
02:07now you go well what did you expect see here's the problem from spartan fans well he needs time you
02:14don't get time this is a year-to-year thing what did i expect go out win seven games why
02:20because you
02:21go to the hooker market and you buy enough and you go win this team blows and when you go
02:28oh well
02:29well who else is doing that okay you want to start with john summerall at florida they might win the
02:34sec how about eric morris a guy i would have loved to have brought to state he's at okie state
02:40with a
02:40top 10 win and now a road conference win as they dropped a bomb on rich rod to the tune
02:46of about 600
02:46yards offense 77 new players 17 of which are from north texas including his quarterback the lord and
02:54savior of our podcast cash the ticket drew mestemaker okay like how about bob chesney another guy a lot of
03:03people wanted oh but he might not stay at the program bob chesney left jmu took players with him
03:10went to a poverty-ass school that can't even pay to keep the lights on and he's got ucla cooking
03:15cross
03:16country and they decapitated mike locksley i like turtles and they won 50 to 3 the bottom line is you
03:24can talk about well fitz is going to build this and going to do that is he because right now
03:31you're
03:32looking at going right now maybe something cosmically will change you look like a three and nine football
03:39team hell i'll give you two free wins four and eight no one is signing up for that so here's
03:48what
03:48it boils down to whether it did state get it right did they get it wrong it seems absurd four
03:56games in
03:56to ask that question so i'm not going to but i can tell you what this will boil down to
04:02barring some
04:04act of god that this team starts playing completely different football looks like they have talent can
04:10complete a forward pass and could actually get to the quarterback none of which they do
04:17here's what you're looking at you have a coach who's now two and 22 his last 24 games against power
04:24four opponents two and 22 okay a guy who has no idea about the portal swears he does but thus
04:35far
04:35why don't we check those evaluations i don't have a drop that could simulate someone taking a dump
04:43but that's what it is okay so here's what it'll boil down to show me in december you either bring
04:51a top 20 portal class to the table spend bogo amounts of money that i don't even know the school
04:57does have or doesn't have because trying to have someone explain spartan ventures to you or msu's
05:03approach on nil i may as well sit down with neil tyson degrassi and have him explain space to me
05:10it's pointless watching the games this team has no effing talent they have an offense outside the
05:20top 110 in college football okay hey he could talk about bedrock he could talk about being as hard as
05:28a
05:28rock he could talk about guns and roses rock they stink and you're not going to build some program
05:37with diamonds in the rough or high school recruit it's not the sport so the concerns i had then
05:43i have now i'm not gonna do did they get it wrong i don't want to go that route i'll
05:48just tell you
05:49he's got till december because if he doesn't pull a major portal class and come up with something major
05:55next year what's it all for because right now you're behind the eight ball because all of those
06:02first year coaches you've talked about with summerall with eric morris with chesney brought
06:06in players and they hit the ground running are they going to win a national title no but you know
06:12what happens next year now you can go out there and tell people this is what i'm doing this is
06:18the
06:18type of style of football i'm playing come in here and transfer here i'm with you on the whole you
06:24yeah i don't think you're going to be favored in a game you may not your next game you may
06:28win
06:29maybe the game one of next season looking at the rest of your schedule that's not hyperbole so
06:34you bring in a guy who can't bring players and either he brought one player he didn't have money
06:40or doesn't know how to spend it and you you were the you're being fair and i tried to give
06:46him a
06:47couple of wins two and ten three and nine four and eight who cares weasel a wazzle a woozle it
06:52was
06:52elemental it's in the wind rica i don't understand how anyone watches this and goes it's going to be
07:00fine because your foundation here's the thing there's no foundation it's the boy the the tight
07:06in the way he keeps playing you think he's gonna want to stick around and play for this other teams
07:11are watching like hey son want to come play to miami want to come play here recall i'll say it
07:15again
07:16they're operating an offense and a defense that's outside the top 110 and a lot of statistical
07:20categories i'm not asking to be top 10 not asking to be top 20 if you can't be top 50
07:25or 60 in
07:26america go to hell how the hell you got an offense outside the top 110 yeah and you you need
07:33to go
07:33out there you got to hit the portal hard when it comes to december that's where you're going to show
07:39me whether you're serious or not that's where you're going to show me whether bartholomew and and
07:44the athletic department and spartan ventures are serious about football because i'm not even saying
07:49you got to have a top 10 portal mike can you be in the top 25 that's what the top
07:5525 is there
07:57because you look at this year can using the accurate how about will stein you can add him to the
08:02first
08:03year head coaches he went to texas a&m and won a game and he's got kentucky cooking right they
08:07had
08:08the number 10 portal class oh weird okay okie state had the number 15 portal class weird ucla had 25
08:16weird and florida if you want to go outside they had the number 30 you had 55 that's and that's
08:24that's
08:25being very considerate because some had you as high as 61 so when the point is whatever he bought it
08:32ain't working they don't have anything he had cam edwards and and you said they were going to run
08:38that kid into the ground and unfortunately he's dead before the leaves turn his knee got blown out and
08:43right you have to have some players because watching the games i'm just looking at him like i'd rather go
08:48to sleep i don't see how you're going to compete like no david i had to go back and watch
08:54eight minutes
08:55of the second quarter against eastern i nodded off and i don't take naps i don't i'm not a napper
09:00you're not a napper no it's a great thing no my wife checked on me i wasn't dead she goes
09:06you fell
09:06asleep during a state game i go babe listen this is a tough watch probably all right she thought they
09:10gave you the big one oh elizabeth my heart i just she's looking for that life insurance policy like
09:17okay back in the game back in the game baby no i just i hold on hold on worry about
09:25your own
09:27phone lines are open buddy anybody there you will be favored come on you'll be favored against
09:35ruckers tell me your concern level with fits now go ahead we're talking sports i'm not gonna write
09:42them off but so far here's what it looks like f they look like a team that's headed to be
09:48three and
09:48nine in the portal world let me be very clear about this 10 years ago this is not the take
09:55i would have given fits a solid three years 10 years ago 15 years ago we talked about pat
10:02fitzgerald i thought he would have been a great coach at michigan i like pat fitzgerald but i can
10:08separate these worlds this new world of football a world he did not participate in because he was
10:14unemployed in his underwear okay well here's your dress rehearsal this team sucks right there's
10:19academic knowledge and then there's applied knowledge he says he took the phd class he learned
10:25the portal he has all that is he said he got promised that there will be money there i didn't
10:30see it in
10:31year one show me you actually know what you're doing so come this december you got the full runway
10:38get the guys in here lock them up i want to see some o-linemen i need to see some
10:44d-linemen i need
10:45to see some right you know you need to go to the portal and bring in 50 kids you can
10:49i'm not even
10:50being hyperbolic but this is my whole thing and then people are like oh geez there weren't a lot
10:55of people at the game who's paying to watch this i don't want to watch it at home let me
11:01just let you
11:02know it was a nice day and i think a lot of people just decided to stay at the tailgate
11:06well i'm
11:07disappointed and watch tv i'm disappointed in you mike the founders were there okay the founders
11:12we were at the african-american museum you were rolling 30 deep you could you i was ready for you
11:19to have a damn insurrection and take that sideline come into your headsets take the helmets the
11:25the founders deserve to get arrested and no you already had a friend in a green blazer you sent me
11:30the picture i like that guy you i thought i was your favorite whitey you are you're my favorite
11:36italian whitey but i like that whitey nice guy the point is the founders that team showed their
11:42ass in front of the founders you had an event up there the light of the world was in the
11:48building
11:48and you know what pat said blow it out your ass
11:54i don't know if pat's down for the culture wow
12:01okay you cannot play that way in front of the founders they can't play that way period and win
12:07games we'll get to the people i don't know that they're going to i think they look like a three
12:11and nine outfit i'm giving them a win ten and a half point underdogs at wisconsin this week
12:16who went to the portal uh yeah they gave their coach money
12:19you