00:00we would go and you know family gatherings they're like all the adults are you know hanging out the
00:07children and on the other side playing their children nobody's watching really when there's
00:12family gatherings so i will go and play hide and seek with my cousins and he will go and find
00:18me
00:18where i was hiding to do that i know a cousin of mine we were having a bonfire and he
00:26will
00:26sit her sit her on his lap put a jacket on top of him and you can see everyone surrounded
00:33around the
00:34fire and nobody thinks that he's actually her well she's just sitting on his lap because nobody has
00:41that twisted mind that he will be doing something like that he got away with so many of this because
00:46nobody wanted to speak out and put an end to it he had every single one of my aunts he
00:51had pretty much
00:52all of my cousins my girl cousins that i know i know some other extended family that was as well
00:59nobody talked about this because it's not something you talked about openly 20 years ago
01:0510 years ago it was not something that it was normal to discuss