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00:00I kind of think I cut you out of my life when we got back from the Bahamas.
00:04It was something said by him that really ended the whole thing.
00:11Virtual reality.
00:13Hi, I'm Danny Murphy.
00:14I'm Evan Real.
00:15And wow, Next Gen NYC, this reunion kind of left me with more questions than answers,
00:21but maybe we just get those answers on season three of Next Gen,
00:24because what the hell happened in the Bahamas?
00:26I don't know. We didn't really get into the nitty gritty of the Bahamas.
00:30There was apparently a very insane interaction between Charlie and Ariana.
00:34However, I need to know how Jesus was involved.
00:38Jesus, I'm so sorry that you got in the mess and now we don't even know how.
00:41Right, because at the end of the season, the series finale, we get that concession.
00:46Season finale, don't knock them over.
00:47Sorry, season finale. The show can't be over because we do love the show.
00:50And we have so many questions.
00:51The season finale, Ariana explains how she felt bamboozled by Charlie proffering himself as a man of God,
01:01even getting a tattoo, only God can judge me.
01:03Then she discovered that he wasn't a man of the Lord,
01:06and that is what ultimately was the nail in the coffin for their relationship situation.
01:12Now it seems like in the Bahamas, they had a drunk moment where, well, what it seemed like is that
01:20she professed her love to him,
01:22and he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought this wasn't what that is.
01:26Right.
01:27I was blackout drunk. I'm sure I wanted to be with the wall.
01:29That's totally fair. I'm not disregarding your mental health.
01:32She made you think she wanted to be with you.
01:34Correct. And my response to that was less than ideal for her.
01:37But she's denying that, but no one's saying what happened, and then Charlie on a hot mic said that Ariana
01:42told him some things were tingling.
01:44Yeah, which was crazy, and then Ava was like, bro, you're still mic'd. They're going to use this.
01:49Like, obviously, they're going to use it.
01:50So we find out that Ariana said something about her private parts tingling because of Charlie.
01:55There she goes.
01:57Okay, okay, you realize we're on mic still. Whispering doesn't matter.
02:01Who knows? Anyways, that was a crazy revelation, and I feel like—
02:06Also, I feel he's lying. I feel she didn't say that.
02:09Yeah, because she was drunk, so what is she—you know, she doesn't know what she said, really.
02:13Well, that's what I love. She was like, I would have professed my love to the wall.
02:16Totally. And then I didn't like the threatening nature of Charlie saying, you don't want me to re-quote you.
02:20You don't want me to—I want to respect you. I don't want to quote you. I don't want to, like,
02:22put that out there.
02:23Like, she said something so absolutely insane, and maybe it was that her **** was tingling.
02:27I don't know, but it just—how—he's just such a grotesque human being to me to even say—like, he knew he
02:34was mic'd.
02:34I think he's like—I don't think he forgot. I think he wanted to say—he was just, like, chafing at the
02:39bits to say it out loud, and so he did so with Ava in a break.
02:42And he probably knew. Like, a percentage of his heart, soul, and spirit knew that it would make it onto
02:47camera.
02:47100% of him knew. And also, when him and Ava were trying to say that Charlie's entire thing wasn't
02:52a game of trying to get Ariana, that it wasn't until after BravoCon, when last season, he said he wanted
02:59to F her.
02:59I know. With so much love to Ava, Ava was like, I didn't hear that until after BravoCon.
03:04Did you watch your own show?
03:04Ava, we heard it. Like, what? I don't know why she's so defensive of Charlie.
03:08I don't either.
03:09That her allegiance to him does not make any sense to me.
03:12And I feel like—I know she's always been friendly with him. I feel—
03:15They got closer.
03:16It came out of nowhere.
03:17Yeah.
03:18Was it the trip?
03:19Maybe the trip to the Bahamas, which poor Georgia was iced out of.
03:22And I liked to—not Ava hitting her with, like, a Mean Girls moment.
03:25Like, everyone thought you were too weird and uncomfortable to bring on the trip.
03:28And I said, do we feel bad? And everyone told me not to.
03:31So, sorry I didn't—what did Ava say? Like, sorry I didn't invite you on a trip that nobody wanted you
03:35on.
03:36Should we tell Georgia I feel really bad? And everyone was like, we're all not really that close with her.
03:39It wouldn't make the vibes great. We'd like it if you didn't tell her.
03:42Like, so ruthless. So ruthless.
03:44And now Georgia and Ava aren't even messing with each other.
03:48They don't have—like, the energy is not there.
03:50I think Georgia definitely has an ally in, I would say, Rowan, Gia, of course.
03:55I'm trying to think who else Georgia is cool with.
03:58But Amira, Georgia, Charlie, I guess it ended—well, it ended with Amira saying she can be friends with both of
04:05them or none of them, but they have to be friends first for it to—and I'm also like, Amira, why
04:09do you want to be in this triangle?
04:11Well, I guess maybe she doesn't want to be in it.
04:13And so as long as, like, they're not getting along, she can't get along with either party on her own
04:18because it makes her relationships with either party too complicated.
04:22And I'm just—I mean, shout out to Amira.
04:25She is a bigger person—
04:27A strong girl, yeah.
04:27A bigger person than me for even wanting to entertain the potential of a relationship with Charlie after it was
04:34revealed on this season that he allegedly made really offensive remarks about not only her trans identity, but about her
04:42boyfriend, Kevin, calling him gay, allegedly, which was highlighted on this two part—the second part of the reunion.
04:50I didn't—when he was alleged—when it came up from Georgia that Charlie allegedly called Kevin gay, I just thought, oh,
04:57he's calling him gay, that's not nice.
04:58I did not tie it back—for me, I did not connect the dot that that is damaging because it ties
05:04back to her trans identity, Amira's trans identity.
05:08And the thing is, because I—that's how I interpreted it the first time that he was insulting her trans identity.
05:12Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
05:12And that's why I was like, why would Amira f**k with this guy?
05:16Right.
05:17In any sense.
05:18And also, Charlie now finding a way to blame Georgia for all of this?
05:23Amira, I did not open the floodgates.
05:24That's God's honest truth.
05:25I did not open them, okay?
05:27It's open.
05:27That's true, but that's a result of Georgia maliciously bringing it up because she saw that we were getting close
05:32again.
05:32I tell you, it doesn't make any sense.
05:33I don't get—Charlie keeps on wanting—Charlie's an interesting thing where he acts like he doesn't give a s**t about the
05:41show.
05:41But he only gives a s**t about the show.
05:42But then also keeps on wanting to have Georgia apologize for things in season one.
05:48Do you really give a s**t?
05:50I think he—I think he does.
05:52And also, like he was saying he wants to find more ways to monetize himself on the show.
05:57But he's not brand safe.
05:59And then Ava, so optimistic of you to say he's on his way to being brand safe.
06:03No, he isn't.
06:04No.
06:05Would you buy anything that Charlie Zaccor endorses?
06:08I don't think so.
06:09And then also just like—
06:10And also, I got to be honest with you.
06:11Sir, it's not about—I don't judge you because you're involved in a crypto—I don't really understand the crypto torture chain.
06:16No one f**king cares.
06:17I don't give a s**t.
06:18It's about how you operate as a person.
06:19And how you treat your friends and how you talk about people.
06:22It's really nasty.
06:23We were part of the people giving a standing ovation for Karen Huger after she got a DUI, a Bravo
06:26card.
06:28Like, lost—we were.
06:29I mean, I was at least.
06:30I think—
06:30No, yeah.
06:31Yeah, so I mean, you could have legal s**t and then come back to Bravo, and it is—we find a
06:38way.
06:38It is not your crypto thing.
06:39It is the way you operate as a human when you're not in the tabloids for being in a scandal.
06:43Right, and this whole situation with Amira and allegedly saying those things that he said about Kevin and Amira is
06:49just, like, absolutely gnarly.
06:51And I think that it was—I mean, I guess, in a way, like, he didn't deny it, so good on
06:56you for not denying something that you probably definitely did.
07:00But also, like—
07:01But he has to take ownership of it.
07:02Right, there was no accountability, really.
07:04Like, he didn't deny it, but he didn't say sorry.
07:07He didn't say, this is why I said it, this is what I said.
07:10He didn't add more context to it.
07:12You're right, he displaced the blame immediately to Georgia.
07:14He's on this, like, rampage of, oh, Georgia was weaponizing the vulnerable spot that our relationship was in, so she
07:20used it as an opportunity to drive a wedge further between us.
07:25Maybe that's partially true because she and Charlie weren't getting along,
07:28and maybe she did see a window of opportunity, but at the end of the day, I would want someone
07:33to—
07:33To look out for me.
07:34To look out for me, and if I were Amira, like, I would want to have that information as hurtful
07:38as it could be because then you kind of just know who you're f***ing with.
07:41I know. And also, an added layer, because Hudson came on part two of the reunion, and Charlie apparently wanting
07:48to rent a party bus with Hudson and a bunch of girls to make Ariana jealous is so immature.
07:53And also, while—which was a reveal to us, at least as that Hudson stumbled into more of an addiction to
08:02drugs and went to rehab.
08:02You act like Hudson was not down bad in a f***ing drug addiction. Like, you don't think about, like, situations,
08:09Charlie—
08:09We're all down bad in our own unique ways. I don't—
08:11He went to rehab!
08:13And Ariana was actually supporting him through all of that, just off-camera and not in a romantic sense, but
08:19more in, like, we're family type of sense.
08:21Which, it was really sweet to see Hudson and Ariana be kind of in a good place in regards to
08:26that aspect of it, but also, I'm like, Charlie, is this all a game to you?
08:31I think it is, and it's really sad, and it was interesting when Ariana was asked by Andy, like, it
08:38seems like you're beating yourself up.
08:40Like, when he was asking her about that situation, like, why are you beating yourself up? And then she starts
08:43to cry.
08:44Are you beating yourself up? I'm just getting a vibe.
08:47Definitely. She is.
08:49Why?
08:49For sure.
08:50Why?
08:51I really don't want to mess up my makeup.
08:53It's okay.
08:54You can touch it up.
08:55And then Liam steps in to say something, and then all the girls step in to say something, and even
09:00Hudson was rallying behind her.
09:02The one person who couldn't say anything supportive was Charlie, and then Ava's whispering to him, like, say something, say
09:08something, and then literally coaches him on what to say.
09:10Finally, when there was an opportunity to say something, he said verbatim what Ava told him to say.
09:14So nothing on Charlie's end is ever f***ing genuine or sincere, and I do like that Ariana was able to
09:20watch this season back and be like, I didn't like the way you spoke about me when I wasn't in
09:24the room.
09:24Yes.
09:25So she started to clock his behavior, which is nice.
09:27I do wish that Ariana wasn't so hard on herself, because as everyone told her, even Liam, who, like, Ariana
09:35was like, you should have-
09:35Who Liam played.
09:36I mean, who Ariana played Liam.
09:38Right.
09:38She was like, you shouldn't be consoling me, like, you're the one who got hurt in this situation.
09:41But he told her, and as did other cast members, like, you're-
09:43Even Andy said, honey, you're 24.
09:45You're so young, like, you need to be exploring and doing whatever, like, follow your heart.
09:50That's why even Ava was like, you're at the age where you go for the bad guy.
09:53I'm like, who's your best friend?
09:55Yeah, what?
09:57Like, it was also weird.
09:59I mean, I'm glad that Ariana received a lot of support in that moment, but-
10:02I know, and also, I don't understand what's happening with Chey and Ava.
10:05Yeah, so it seems like he does make an effort to take her on dates, and she just waits for
10:11it to happen.
10:12And so it's like, they're kind of, like, in this weird limbo spot of, like, we're exploring this, but we're
10:17not really moving forward with it until Chey plans the next date, which it seems like he does every now
10:24and then.
10:25And so in the interim, she's like, hey, Kyle Cook.
10:27I'm gonna kiss Kyle.
10:28I'm gonna do my things.
10:29Yeah, so it is very interesting, but I do feel like there is good groundwork for a third season.
10:34Yeah, oh my God, totally.
10:36I just, I hope we learn more about Jesus's involvement.
10:39Like, why did we get no tea about that?
10:41I need more of an explanation.
10:43I mean, it seems like Ariana was feeling the spirit of the Lord because she said, she was like, you
10:46know, I said in my confession I was gonna tear his ass apart.
10:48And right now, I just, like, don't feel that in my heart to do.
10:51So she chose peace, and she chose to take, you know, the higher road in that regard.
10:55But I don't know.
10:57It's like, how does Charlie move forward with anyone?
10:59Well, I guess he has Ava to help him through it.
11:00I guess so.
11:01And Chey?
11:02Well, I think because Chey likes Ava, so he just comes along for the ride.
11:05Right, yeah.
11:06With that.
11:07We didn't hear a ton from Rowan.
11:09No, she had a joke about one of the questions being from her boyfriend.
11:12Oh, yeah, Brian from New York.
11:14Yeah.
11:14Yeah.
11:14And so I think she's in a good place with everybody.
11:16Yeah, it seems like she's, like, ready for another season.
11:18Riley, or more so, in a supportive sense for everybody.
11:20Yeah, totally.
11:21And then Riley and Ariana are good, even though they weren't for a little bit.
11:25But now they are, which is nice to hear.
11:29Riley's going back to school.
11:31Yeah.
11:31Candy's paying for it.
11:32Well, she's trying to get into school.
11:34I'm gonna say she's going back to school.
11:36She'll get into school.
11:37She'll get into school.
11:38I know she'll get there.
11:39Yes.
11:39And Georgia, you know, we always love you to talk trash to us.
11:44Because I know a lot of, they say that she talks a little too much mess in the press.
11:47Yeah.
11:49Well, I mean, look.
11:49They all do.
11:50They do.
11:51They do.
11:51Telling Vulture that none of her cast members could ever make it into one of her parties
11:55was certainly a choice.
11:57And then when she said it was like.
11:58She seems to understand, though.
12:00Yeah.
12:00And she was like, no, it's because it's, like, underground counter to it.
12:03She's like, the clothes that we wear, just, I don't feel like they would wear it.
12:07And then Ava was like, no, that's, like, a s*** thing to say.
12:10So, but I do, I really do think that Georgia's starting to get it.
12:13She is.
12:13And she's starting to understand.
12:14And she, on social, it seems like she, this cleaning product brand is going to make its way.
12:19Yeah.
12:20She needs help figuring out a name.
12:22She was asking for suggestions.
12:23So, if you have suggestions for what Georgia should name her cleaning product company,
12:29put them in the comments below because we are curious for that.
12:32And she needs as much help as she can get.
12:34She doesn't really have that many friends on the cast to ask for suggestions.
12:36Right.
12:37And she spent $10,000 of her hard-earned cash investing.
12:41Which Ariana reminded her is not nothing.
12:41That's a lot of money.
12:42That's a lot of money.
12:43Yeah.
12:43So, help a girl out.
12:44Help a girl out.
12:45And, I mean, I guess we will get more next-gen NYC within the, I mean, I'm ready for some
12:51more.
12:51I don't think we need a cash shake-up.
12:52I want all these people back.
12:53Yeah.
12:54We need answers.
12:55Yeah.
12:56Start filming.
12:57Yes.
12:58And stay tuned for all of our other recaps in the reality TV space.
13:02And also, you can still vote for the VRT awards that are going to be coming out with your final
13:07date of vote, September 29th.
13:09And, guys, it's now going to be streaming on Philo.
13:11So, if you missed the awards on October 6th at Edison Ballroom on October 9th, it's going to be
13:15streaming on Philo for you to catch up on the fun.
13:18And last year's awards are also going to be on there, too.
13:20Very exciting.
13:21And some of your favorite next-gen NYC stars are going to be at this year's show.
13:24So, stream it on Philo so you can see them.
13:26Fun.
13:27Fun.