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A heated confrontation erupted during a House Judiciary Committee hearing as Representative Eric Swalwell pressed FBI Director Kash Patel over whether Donald Trump’s name appeared in the Jeffrey Epstein files. Swalwell repeatedly demanded a direct answer about whether Patel had ever told Trump or the Attorney General that Trump’s name was mentioned in the documents. Patel said he had never discussed the files with Trump, but did not provide a direct yes-or-no response regarding the Attorney General. The exchange quickly turned personal, with both men trading sharp accusations over alleged evasiveness, a possible cover-up, and conduct in office. The tense clash has intensified scrutiny surrounding the Epstein files and the questions being raised about what officials knew and when.

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00:00Did you ever tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?
00:04The Attorney General and I have had numerous discussions about the entirety of the Epstein files and the reviews conducted
00:09by our team.
00:10Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?
00:13And we have released where President Trump's name is in the Epstein files.
00:15It's a simple question. Did you tell the Attorney General that the President's name is in the Epstein files?
00:19During many conversations that the Attorney General and I have had on the matter of Epstein, we have reviewed.
00:25The question is simple.
00:27Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein Files?
00:33Yes or no?
00:34Why don't you try spelling it out?
00:35Yes or no, Director.
00:36Use the alphabet.
00:37Yes or no?
00:38No?
00:38A, B, C, E, F?
00:39Director, it sounds like you don't want to tell us.
00:42Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name was in the Epstein Files?
00:45Why don't you try serving your constituency by focusing on reducing violent crime in this country
00:50and the number of pedophiles that are legally covered in sanctuary cities in California?
00:56I'll work with you on that.
00:57Do you want to work with us on that?
00:59I'm the longest gentleman from California.
01:01Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein Files?
01:05The question has been asked and answered.
01:06You have not answered it and we will take your evasiveness as a consciousness of guilt.
01:11Director, the first time you saw Donald Trump's name was in the Epstein Files.
01:15Did you close the files or keep reading?
01:20I have reviewed not the entirety of the files.
01:24So you haven't reviewed all of the Epstein Files?
01:27Personally, no.
01:28You're the Director of the FBI.
01:29This is the largest sex trafficking case the FBI has ever been a part of.
01:34Buck stops at the top.
01:35And your testimony today is you have not reviewed all the files.
01:38What I've been doing is busy providing the safest country this country has seen in modern U.S. history
01:44in historic speed because the men and women of the FBI are given the resources to reduce the homicide rates,
01:49to reduce the drug trafficking rate, to reduce the amount of children that are being trafficked
01:53and the number of pedophiles that we've missed is record high.
01:54Well, it sounds like those children being trafficked would appreciate the Director reviewing the files.
01:58You said you don't know the number of times Trump's name appears in the files,
02:01so it could at least be a thousand times.
02:04Is that right?
02:05The number is a total misleading factor.
02:08We have not released anyone's name in the Epstein Files that has not been credible.
02:14Director, it could at least be a thousand times.
02:15We have released every piece of legally permissible information.
02:19You can characterize the numbers however you want it.
02:22Can you claim me my time, Director?
02:23It sounds like if you don't know the number, it could at least be a thousand times.
02:27It's not.
02:28It's not.
02:29Is it at least 500 times?
02:30No.
02:30Is it at least 100 times?
02:31No.
02:32Then what's the number?
02:33I don't know the number, but it's not that.
02:34Do you think it might be your job to know the number?
02:37My job is to provide for the safety and security of this country.
02:40My job is not to engage in political innuendo so you can go out to the sticks
02:45and get your 20-second hit in your fundraising article.
02:48Don't reclaim my time, Director.
02:48Keep going, reclaiming your time, because the people of California are being underserved by your representation.
02:54If the President is not implicated, why not release everything that involves government?
02:57We have released everything, the President and anyone else's side,
03:00that is credible and lawfully be able to be released.
03:04Your fixation on this matter and baseless accusations that I'm hiding child pedophiles is disgusting.
03:10Anyone that says that needs to look at the stats alone.
03:13And go back to the state of California, who's receiving the biggest surge in FBI resources
03:17through my redeployment because the cities of Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco need it.
03:21Director, remembering your oath to tell the truth, did you ever tell Donald Trump his name is in the files?
03:28I have never spoken to President Trump about the Epstein files.
03:32Did you ever tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?
03:37The Attorney General and I have had numerous discussions about the entirety of the Epstein files
03:41and the reviews conducted by our team.
03:43Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?
03:45And we have released where President Trump's name is in the Epstein files.
03:52During many conversations that the Attorney General and I have had on the matter of Epstein, we have reviewed.
03:58The question is simple.
04:00Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?
04:06Yes or no?
04:06Why don't you try spelling it out?
04:08Yes or no, Director.
04:09Use the alphabet.
04:10Yes or no?
04:11No? A, B, C, E, F?
04:12Director, it sounds like you don't want to tell us.
04:14Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name was in the Epstein files?
04:17Why don't you try serving your constituency by focusing on reducing violent crime in this country
04:23and the number of pedophiles that are legally harbored in sanctuary cities in California?
04:28I'll work with you on that.
04:30Do you want to work with us on that?
04:32I'm the longest gentleman from California.
04:34Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?
04:37The question has been asked and answered.
04:39You have not answered it and we will take your evasiveness as a consciousness of guilt.
04:43But, Director, did Donald Trump ever say to you, just find and release the entire truth?
04:49Don't worry if I'm in it.
04:50The instructions from the administration were to release all credible information and we have done that.
04:55Did Donald Trump ever provide information about Jeffrey Epstein as an informant?
05:00Donald Trump has not been and I can only speak for the FBI as an informant of the FBI.
05:04So, Director, you've played this cute shell game where you say you can't release everything
05:08because the court has said that it legally is not allowed to be released.
05:13But the court calls bullshit.
05:16Judge Richard Berman said that when you went to the court, quote,
05:19information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales, pales in comparison to Epstein
05:27investigation information and materials in the hands of the Department of Justice.
05:33So, let's move on, Director.
05:34You wrote a book called Government Gangsters.
05:36You identified 20 individuals in that book.
05:39You put me on that list at the top of the list.
05:42My children find it flattering.
05:4420 of those individuals have been investigated or have had adverse actions.
05:49Director, considering that you have identified these people as, quote, government gangsters,
05:54will you recuse yourself from making any investigation decisions about these individuals?
05:59Anyone that has been terminated at the FBI has been done so.
06:01No, no, the question again.
06:02Because they failed to meet the muster in their constitutional obligation.
06:04I will work on the audiovisual capabilities.
06:07I'm going to borrow your terminology and call bullshit on your entire career in Congress.
06:11I'm reclaiming my time, Director.
06:11It has been a disgrace to the American people.
06:13I'm reclaiming my time on that.
06:14You can reclaim your time all you want.
06:16Mr. Chairman, you're going to allow a witness to speak this way?
06:19Mr. Chairman, would you recuse yourself?
06:21The gentleman has no time.
06:23Mr. Chairman, would you admonish the witness not to insult members?
06:26The gentleman has no time.
06:27The committee will remember.
06:29Quick point of order.
06:30Could the gentleman be extended an additional 20 seconds to complete his thoughts since the
06:34witness decided to interrupt him continuously?
06:37And the witness will be able to respond if he wants.
06:39We'll make sure he has time to do that.
06:40My question is, will you, Director, recuse yourself, yes or no, from investigating or
06:45making decisions about the 60 individuals, including myself, that you identified as government
06:50gangsters?
06:51Yes or no?
06:51Time of the gentleman has expired.
06:53The witness may respond if he would like.
06:55And the answer was no, as I heard.
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