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A tense showdown erupted during a House Judiciary Committee hearing as Ranking Member Pramila Jayapal accused FBI Director Kash Patel of withholding key information related to Jeffrey Epstein’s files. Jayapal claimed that former President Donald Trump’s name appeared in documents the FBI failed to disclose, calling it a “cover-up.” She also pressed Patel on why the FBI had not met with Epstein’s victims directly. Patel denied the accusations, insisting there was “no credible information” tying the files to other individuals.
This video breaks down the explosive exchange, what was actually said, and the broader controversy surrounding access to Epstein-related records.

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00:00Why have you not met with them?
00:02You said you haven't met with them.
00:03Have you met with them?
00:04I'll give you one more chance.
00:06My job as the FBI director is to invite all investigative leads.
00:09Is the answer yes or no to whether or not you met with these women who were sexually
00:14abused and raped?
00:17You appear to say that the survivors were not credible.
00:22I think what happened, Mr. Patel, is that suddenly you discovered that Donald Trump's
00:27name was all over these files and you started a giant cover up.
00:33So you.
00:34Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Patel, before you joined the FBI, you had very strong opinions
00:39about what the FBI was hiding regarding Jeffrey Epstein in a September 2023 interview with
00:44Glenn Beck.
00:45You said the black book is under the quote, direct control of the director of the FBI.
00:50In December 2023, you said, let us know who the pedophiles are.
00:54Even for a short time after becoming FBI director, in February of 2025, you tweeted, quote, there
01:00will be no cover ups, no missing documents, no stone left unturned.
01:05In June, you told Joe Rogan, quote, we've reviewed all the information.
01:10We're going to give you every single thing we have and can.
01:12But then suddenly in July, everything changed.
01:16You and Attorney General Pam Bondi released one video and said that there was nothing more
01:22to see your July memo says you uncovered more than 300 gigabytes of data and physical evidence,
01:31but that you had decided no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted.
01:36That is a quote.
01:37I think what happened, Mr. Patel, is that suddenly you discovered that Donald Trump's name was
01:43all over these files and you started a giant cover up.
01:48So you are under oath, Mr. Patel.
01:51You just testified to Mr. Swalwell that you did not speak to the president about the Epstein
01:57files.
01:58To your knowledge, did Attorney General Pam Bondi speak to the president about what was
02:04in the Epstein files?
02:05I can't speak for Attorney General Pam Bondi.
02:08So to your knowledge, you don't have any information.
02:12The question was, do you have any knowledge?
02:14Do you have any knowledge?
02:15I can't speak.
02:16You are refusing to answer the question.
02:18So let me tell you that the Wall Street Journal reported that in May, Bondi told Trump that
02:24he was in the Epstein files and at the same meeting said that the DOJ did not plan to release
02:30the files.
02:32Yesterday, you testified to Senator Kennedy that there was, quote, no credible information that
02:37Epstein traffic girls to anyone else and that you have, quote, continuously and publicly
02:43asked the public to come forward with more information and we'll look into it.
02:48Today, in response to Mr. Massey's question, you appear to say that the survivors were not
02:56credible.
02:57These are survivors.
02:58That's not at all what I said.
03:00Okay, great.
03:01I will ask you this in a second, but let me tell you about the survivors and let's bring
03:05them up here into the room.
03:07These are women who came to the Hill and testified that they were groomed and raped at the age
03:14of 14 and 16 years old and they called to meet with the president and to meet with the
03:20FBI and to have people investigate their claims.
03:24Some of them have never testified before.
03:26If you are so interested in getting the public to submit any information, why have you not
03:31met with them?
03:32You said you haven't met with them.
03:33Have you met with them?
03:34I'll give you one more chance.
03:36My job as the FBI director is to invite all investigative leads-
03:39Is the answer yes or no to whether or not you met with these women who were sexually abused
03:45and raped?
03:47Any insinuation by you or any people on your side that I am not manhunting child predators
03:53and sex traffickers, just look at the stats and you talk about cover-ups, man.
03:57Mr. Patel, Mr. Chairman, this is my time and I will take as much time as I want.
04:01Where were you during the Obama and Biden administrations when these so-called cover-ups
04:06were going on?
04:07Why did anyone in those administrations talk to any of these purported witnesses?
04:11Mr. Chairman, let's get some regular order, man.
04:13I have welcome every single person to provide credible information.
04:15Time belongs to the gentlelady from Washington.
04:17And I'm going to take another couple of minutes.
04:18When you accuse the witness of something, he's allowed to respond.
04:21That's how it works.
04:23Listen.
04:24He didn't even-
04:25Excuse me, Mr. Chairman.
04:26You have always been fair.
04:27Point of order.
04:28But this is not fair.
04:29No.
04:30This is my time.
04:31And he said that the witnesses were not credible.
04:34Seconds of time.
04:35I'm going to get an additional minute of time because that's how much time he took.
04:38You won't get a minute.
04:39You'll get some seconds.
04:40What we think is under five minutes.
04:42You don't get to demand how much time you get.
04:44That's not how it works.
04:45Mr. Patel, are the victims of the Jeffrey Epstein horrific trafficking ring?
04:53Are they credible?
04:55Any person with information about ongoing sexual trafficking-
05:00I'm asking you if they're credible.
05:02Ma'am, I'm commenting on the evidence we have.
05:04But I'm-
05:05We have routinely asked for people to come forward with more evidence and we will look
05:08at it.
05:09And the evidence that we have was the same evidence that the Biden and Obama Justice Department
05:13had.
05:14Mr. Patel, this is new-
05:15They determined, not me.
05:16They determined that that information was not credible.
05:18Mr. Chairman, he's not letting me even ask my questions.
05:20You ask the questions, he gives an answer.
05:22You may not like what he says, but that doesn't mean you're going to interrupt him.
05:25No, I'm asking.
05:26He's not answering my questions.
05:27Mr. Chairman, could we restore the gentlelady 45 seconds so she can complete her question?
05:29We will give her additional 30 seconds, which is what I said earlier.
05:32I'm going to keep taking my time.
05:33No, you'll take the time that you get.
05:34You get 30 seconds.
05:35Because here's the thing.
05:36You are not answering the question.
05:38The question is-
05:39I have.
05:40You just don't like the answer.
05:41Is these women-
05:42Are these women credible?
05:43It's a yes or no answer.
05:44I have answered the question.
05:46Well, what is the answer?
05:47I keep telling you, I'm the only FBI director that has welcomed new information in this case.
05:51Okay.
05:52This administration is the only one that has welcomed any new information in this case.
05:55Is there a yes or no to whether the victims are-
05:57Present new credible information.
05:59Present new information.
06:00Are the victims credible or not?
06:04I'll tell you what happened in the last Trump administration.
06:06Are they credible or not?
06:07You can't even say-
06:08Victims credibly came forward.
06:09And you know what happened?
06:10President Trump authorized the indictments of Jeffrey Epstein.
06:13President Trump called them a hoax.
06:14Not Biden.
06:15Not Obama.
06:16No one else.
06:17I would call the entire thing a democratic hoax.
06:20So I would like to ask-
06:22The general lady's time has expired.
06:23I gave her the additional 45 seconds she requested.
06:26The general lady yields back.
06:27The gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for his five minutes.
06:28Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask if you would meet with the women who were sexually abused
06:34and raped and groomed at the ages of 14 and 16 years old.
06:41Are you going to cover up?
06:43Are you going to continue to cover up for the rich and powerful men, including those that
06:49might be on this committee?
06:51Or are you going to allow them to testify?
06:55Are you going to allow them to testify, Mr. Patel?
06:56Will you allow them to testify to you, Mr. Patel?
06:57Mr. Patel.
06:58Mr. Patel.
06:59Mr. Patel.
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