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00:00Vicky will tell you right off, I'm not talking about this.
00:02I'm not talking about this.
00:03I don't want to talk about this.
00:04So if it comes up, she gets frustrated.
00:06Like there's like we were supposed to respect those conversations not coming up.
00:10But, you know, our lives are out there.
00:13And so it's like, as my girlfriend, if you're going through something, how do I not ask you?
00:21Virtual reality.
00:23Jen Pedranti from The Real Housewives of Orange County.
00:25We love you so much.
00:26And it feels like it's been way too long.
00:27It has.
00:27I didn't see you guys last year.
00:29Yeah, I mean, last year was tougher for you.
00:32This year is a little bit easier, even if Vicky's calling you low-hanging fruit.
00:35I know.
00:36What the hell is that?
00:38So like, you know, every fruit is needed in the fruit salad.
00:40You know what I mean?
00:41Oh, thank you.
00:41That's a good way to look at it because it certainly didn't feel like that.
00:44I mean, how did it feel to hear her say that?
00:46Like, oh, that's why I pick on Jen because she's low-hanging fruit.
00:49I mean, that is rude.
00:50It was funny because the whole group can be like saying something at Vicky and she's like, where's Jen?
00:55Jen!
00:56And so when she said it, I'm like, oh, it makes sense.
00:59And then I thought, wait, what is she saying?
01:01That's such an asshole thing to say.
01:03And it's so funny with Vicky.
01:05Like, on one hand, she can be such like, say the craziest, rudest things.
01:09And then on the other hand, you love her.
01:12Like, she does have this very nurturing where on one hand you're like, God, screw this woman.
01:17And then on the other hand, you're like, okay, what do you need?
01:18You know, how can I help you?
01:19I also feel it's a thing because she is usually screaming at people when she's upset about something in her
01:24life, like with Michael or something like that.
01:27So you're like, I get where you're coming from.
01:28And I don't want to, like, dog you while you're feeling down.
01:32But also, why do you have to make us all feel down with you?
01:34It's just interesting with Vicky because I feel like we're asked to be together and open up and share our
01:40lives.
01:40And then, but Vicky will tell you right off, I'm not talking about this.
01:43I'm not talking about this.
01:44I don't want to talk about this.
01:45So if it comes up, she gets frustrated.
01:47Like, there's like, we were supposed to respect those conversations not coming up.
01:51But, you know, our lives are out there.
01:55And so it's like, as my girlfriend, if you're going through something, how do I not ask you about it?
01:59I feel like a bad friend.
02:00And it was also so weird because in the hot tub when she kind of was like, I'm bored.
02:04No, you don't understand.
02:06That didn't start in the hot tub.
02:07Like, the whole drive there, she's like, she's like bored the whole time.
02:12And we're in the back seat like, is that rude?
02:15So then I like you and Emily were like, I guess we could talk about how you get in front
02:19of me.
02:19Yeah.
02:20How do we make you not bored?
02:22She is.
02:23That is Vicky.
02:24Or she'll, then she's just like, I'm going to make a work call or she wants to get on her
02:26laptop.
02:27And it's like, but this is a girl's trip.
02:29Like, what are you doing?
02:30What do you make of the whole Mike situation with the ring and the good girl behavior?
02:34You're, it's kind of, I mean, as a viewer, it makes me sad for Vicky that she's dealing with that
02:38in her relationship because it doesn't feel good.
02:41Oh, it can't feel good.
02:42Right.
02:42And, and I've met him several times and he's, we, Ryan and I both like him very much.
02:48And I was surprised when I heard the ring that he had this ring and it was like a dangling
02:52carrot and good girl behavior.
02:54And Vicky, like she takes up for him.
02:56I don't even care about the ring.
02:57It's not about the ring.
02:58But one thing I know about Vicky is she's a girl and she has feelings and you love your man.
03:02How would you, any girl would be like, he's sitting on the ring.
03:05Why do I not have it?
03:06And just like you said, it makes me sad.
03:08Yeah.
03:09It makes me sad for her.
03:10Cause it'd be one thing if they just were like, marriage is not for us.
03:13But the fact that the ring exists, that's where it's like, it's in the, it's in the house.
03:16It's in there.
03:18And yeah, I, if, if Ryan did that, it would almost frustrate me to a point of like,
03:23then get rid of the ring.
03:24Cause I, I'm not going to perform for our relationship to deserve the ring.
03:28And that's got to be hard for Vicky.
03:30Yeah.
03:31I do love though, in the confessional where you were like, when, cause she, when Vicky called you the new
03:34girl and you're like,
03:35I've been here for four years.
03:36Where have you been?
03:37I haven't seen you in four years.
03:38But, you know, it's true.
03:42It's true.
03:43And it's a little disrespectful, you know, and I understand I'm new and I understand the hierarchy and I respect
03:49it.
03:49And I respect Vicky, but like, don't come in and throw that.
03:53I've been with these women for the last four years and you haven't, I'm so happy you're back, but give
03:58me a little respect.
03:59And four years really is a feat within the context of RHOC, because there have been a lot of one
04:05and dones in the history of Real Housewives of Orange County,
04:07but you have stuck around for four years to what do you attribute your, I would call it longevity at
04:12this point.
04:13Longevity.
04:14Wow.
04:14Thank you for saying that.
04:15I don't know.
04:16I think I'm just, I just, I really do value the friendships with the women.
04:20I really do.
04:22My life isn't perfect and I'm okay showing that.
04:25And it's bit me in the rear end several times, but I think that's our job.
04:29Like, be here, be real, show it.
04:32Don't try to pretend that it's one way when it's not.
04:34And I'm just going to keep doing that until it doesn't work.
04:37You really are so beautifully vulnerable on the show and especially this season with your kids.
04:43How has, and I mean, you always have been open with your family on it, but this season feels like
04:48it is, it's a little heavier and different.
04:49How are you doing with the kids?
04:52Somebody asked me about the platform and things that you learned from it.
04:56And I will tell you, if you were to sit with me, the one thing I would tell you is
04:59like, when it comes to my kids, I got it.
05:01Like, I am close with those kids.
05:02I know everything about those kids.
05:04And when I sat down with some of those conversations on camera that my son said that I had never
05:10heard, I'm telling you, I'm like, what am I missing?
05:13And I think the message for parents is even the best moms and the best dads, we think we know
05:19and we don't always know.
05:20And that's like so heartbreaking.
05:21That's what would make me scared to be a parent.
05:23Because if I found out that my child was secretly being bullied and then I found out, like, that is
05:28just so, I mean, how is he doing with that right now?
05:30Because even when he told you, there was almost like the way he expressed himself was so mature and it
05:36almost seemed like he was at peace with it, which in a way I was like, okay, I'm glad that
05:40he's emotionally regulated about it.
05:42But it also made me sad how normal it felt for him.
05:45Right.
05:46You know, what's crazy about Grayson is when this topic comes up with him about being bullied and I'm like,
05:53what and who and why?
05:54And I want to get in there.
05:55Like, and he's like, he'll stop me and he'll be like, mom, it is about them.
05:59It's not about me.
06:00And I think to myself, okay, do you really feel that?
06:03Because if you feel that way, you are light years ahead, any of us.
06:06Or are you masking and do we need to have a deeper conversation?
06:10And that's where it's like, I've had to learn with him.
06:13If I lean in too much, he's going to stop.
06:15But if I kind of just sit back, maybe he'll keep talking and I'm learning as I go too.
06:20I've got five kids and I'm still learning.
06:22I know.
06:22Wow.
06:22He has to teach him the housewives.
06:24He's like, it's about them, not me.
06:26No, that's what he'll tell me.
06:27It's more about them and something they're going through.
06:30And how old is he now?
06:3017.
06:31To have that mindset at 17 is actually incredible.
06:33It says a lot about your parenting.
06:34Oh, thank you.
06:35I wish I could take that, but honestly, he's just a great kid.
06:38Yeah.
06:38Oh, you're so lucky.
06:39And they're so lucky to have you as a mom.
06:41And they're also lucky to have Ryan in their lives.
06:43They are.
06:43He's there.
06:43When are we getting married?
06:44Because people love to make that joke.
06:47Are you sitting down?
06:48We're sitting down.
06:49Do you have a date?
06:50We do.
06:50We set it.
06:51Shut up.
06:51We set the date.
06:52We're doing it right before the kids' spring break.
06:54So it's beginning of April.
06:55Wow.
06:55You can sit on a bikini if you want.
06:56I can.
06:57My mom, I was just saying, I was on the phone with my mom because Ryan's like, we've got to
07:01call your parents.
07:02Because obviously mom and dad are very, you know, I'm from a very old school family and they love Ryan.
07:07So just tie this up.
07:08Like, let's do this.
07:09And so Ryan said, we've got to call your mom.
07:11And we told mom and dad, like, we booked the boat and this is how we're doing it.
07:13And mom's like, okay, but what's your dress?
07:15And I'm like, well, mom, like, it'll be a wrap or, you know, something.
07:20Yeah.
07:20And she's probably like, thank God she's getting married.
07:23Please, God, don't let it be in a bikini.
07:25But yeah, we booked it.
07:27Amazing.
07:27Congratulations.
07:28I know.
07:29You better get married in a bikini at this point because it would be iconic and you do have the
07:32body for it.
07:32Oh, thank you.
07:34I'm marrying Ryan.
07:35Right.
07:35Who also has the body for it.
07:37There's much choice other than it was funny when Ryan and I were telling my mom and dad, he said,
07:42we're going to do the like the ceremony part on the boat.
07:44Right.
07:45Kind of like right when we get on.
07:46And then Ryan's like, and then we're going to get to like the music and the drinks and the jumping
07:50in the water.
07:50And mom goes, so she's not wearing a dress.
07:52You know, it's like, it's okay, mom.
07:55You're going to have a good time.
07:56Wow.
07:57On a boat, too.
07:58That's fun.
07:59Are all the ladies invited?
08:00For sure.
08:01I'm in a spot where I would literally invite all the ladies.
08:03Are we doing a bridal party?
08:06I mean, I hate that stuff.
08:07You hate that?
08:08Okay.
08:08I hate that stuff.
08:09I mean, yeah.
08:09What I would love is like girls, guys, like get everybody together and let's go take a trip somewhere and
08:14like do something like that.
08:15Co-ed bachelorette.
08:16Yeah, let's do that.
08:16Cute.
08:17I love that.
08:18And everyone's invited to that, too?
08:19Everyone.
08:20Even Vicky.
08:20Even Vicky.
08:21Wow.
08:22Okay.
08:22Come catch a slow hanging fruit, Vicky.
08:25You know why?
08:27That's not to say that I don't appreciate it.
08:30I find it very rude.
08:31Yeah.
08:31But this season, I feel like I'm with my girls.
08:34Like I feel like I'm with my girlfriends.
08:35And even though we have rub and annoyances, I feel safety in our friendships that we can bring these things
08:40up.
08:41Right.
08:41And we're going to find a resolve.
08:43Yeah.
08:43Yeah.
08:43It's also nice to see you and Tamara in a better spot.
08:46I mean, who would have thought after you stole her hair extensions?
08:49That was my favorite fight.
08:50That was the best fight.
08:51Honestly, that was good.
08:53That was really good.
08:54Yes.
08:55To be fighting about hair extensions on Housewives, it's so perfect.
08:58It's so delicious.
08:59It's so good.
09:00Yeah.
09:02It seems like Tamara is like a reformed Tamara this season.
09:05Yeah.
09:05She is.
09:05Yeah, right?
09:06She is.
09:07Like the things aren't poking her like they used to.
09:08And listen, if anybody was here to doubt it, I was like, oh, we've been here before.
09:13Yeah.
09:13When is the shoe going to drop?
09:15And she just kept, I'm telling you, there's something different.
09:18Do you think that maybe because I was really gagged when she revealed that she and Eddie almost had like
09:24a divorce situation?
09:25No, I didn't know that either.
09:26And so maybe that like was part of the reason why she was not getting along with you.
09:32Listen, she went through that with Teddy.
09:34Her very, that is somebody in her life that she is the closest to.
09:37So there's Teddy.
09:38And then to hear Eddie.
09:40Yeah.
09:40I'm like, who wouldn't be taken aback by this?
09:43And so I don't know if it's perspective.
09:45Yeah.
09:45I don't know if it's life.
09:46But I, but I am telling you, I, I would be lying if I said there weren't moments throughout the
09:51season that I'm like, oh boy, here, if anything's gonna, here we go.
09:54She's gonna roar her that side.
09:57And she didn't.
09:58Yeah.
09:58She didn't.
09:58That's good.
09:59Even, and also, especially, um, um, sometimes people can ignite the sides.
10:04I know last season, her and Gretchen did not get along, but we're also seeing a returning face because Alexis
10:08and Shannon didn't get along.
10:09Yep.
10:09And now Alexis comes back.
10:11But I saw a little interview Shannon and Heather did together.
10:13And it looks like Heather gave Alexis the smoke.
10:15That made her.
10:17Fancy pants.
10:19Fancy pants.
10:20Just, it was, I was like, wait, is that Alexis?
10:22And I, I didn't know where I stood with Alexis, but then I'm like, oh, cause I've gotten very close
10:26with Shannon.
10:27And I'm like, oh, shoot.
10:29You know, so I'm like worrying about Shannon and all the while I'm like, it was fancy pants the whole
10:34time.
10:35I, I didn't know if she had that in her for Alexis.
10:37Cause I didn't know they had.
10:38I thought they were cool.
10:40I didn't.
10:40I thought so too.
10:41Yeah.
10:41But, um, wow.
10:43Did she have Shannon's back, it seems?
10:45Or did fancy pants have her own agenda?
10:46Fancy pants took care of business.
10:48Wow.
10:48As she does.
10:50As she does.
10:50As she does.
10:50Cause we really liked last, uh, episode or two episodes ago when she owned the Carmela.
10:56Yeah.
10:57Where she was just like, Hey, before I got to know you, I called you trashy.
11:00Right.
11:00And I'm sorry about that.
11:01The accountability.
11:02I, I feel like that's coming a long way for Heather because the Heather that the one thing that always
11:07threw me off with Heather was like, I love her.
11:10But when, whenever something comes back on her, I felt like it was kind of like, oop, hands clean.
11:14I don't, I don't want to get my hands dirty.
11:17And whenever I heard that she went right into Carmela and owned it, I was like, look at that growth.
11:22I mean, that's a great, that, that's a great, um, growing place for Heather because she doesn't love the things
11:29that come back on her.
11:31And what do you make of while like Carmela was like, okay, that's great.
11:34Tamara and Gina don't really want Carmela to, it seems like Tamara and Gina don't really want Carmela to forgive
11:39Heather that easily.
11:39Where she's like, she just wanted to get ahead of it.
11:42Well, you have to understand Carmela is brand new with this friend group and Tamara and Gina, we all have
11:48our things.
11:49Like I remember hearing for all these years, like Jen has convenient amnesia.
11:52And then I watched myself back and I'm like, oh, I kind of don't remember that.
11:56Conveniently forgot about that.
11:59I do.
11:59I love it.
12:00I'm trying.
12:01Yeah.
12:01Okay.
12:01I'm going to try.
12:02We'll try.
12:03Let's try.
12:04And so the one thing for Heather is you have to know, like Tamara and Gina have seen this for
12:08so long.
12:08Like, you know, so the accountability feels good amongst us women to be like, okay, look
12:13at Heather taking some accountability.
12:15I don't think it's that Tamara and Gina want Carmela to stay mad.
12:18I think they're more like Heather, this has happened.
12:22Right.
12:22You kind of have this pattern.
12:23This is your pattern.
12:24We all have a thing.
12:25And I think it was more like grateful that Heather took ownership on that.
12:29And also working in Heather's favor is that Carmela seems to be a very forgiving person.
12:33Like she can move on.
12:33Which is great.
12:35And we need a housewife who can just like get on with some resolve.
12:39You know what I mean?
12:39Well, I mean, she's a little hung up on Vicky right now.
12:42Rightfully so, though.
12:43That's fair.
12:43I will tell you, Vicky's given it to her.
12:46So there comes a point when enough is enough.
12:48But I will say Carmela is 100% forgiving.
12:50Like she's a girl's girl.
12:52I can't wait for you to meet her.
12:54I think we're meeting her next week.
12:55Oh, you are.
12:56We love her.
12:57You are going to meet her.
12:59So I hope she doesn't hear this question.
13:00Well, actually, because we'll talk to her about it.
13:01Because it seems like a lot of people feel she's too forgiving with the man.
13:05Do you think that?
13:07Yeah, I do.
13:08Yeah, a little bit.
13:09I do.
13:10She, listen, everybody deserves change.
13:13Everybody deserves to be forgiven if that's what you choose.
13:16But then there comes a point when Carmela's got to love Carmela and say no more.
13:21Yeah.
13:22Yeah.
13:22It seems just very, and I feel like she almost feels, and I love that all of you ladies really
13:27rallied around her when she was just like, he just is helping with the kids and everything.
13:30And people are like, that's a bare minute.
13:31That shouldn't be like.
13:32That shouldn't even be something that, like, that's just, it's common.
13:34Yeah.
13:35If he's in your life for 10 years, he should be helping with the kids.
13:39And that's a big thing for Carmela.
13:41Her kids have, she's gone through a lot with her divorce.
13:45So when it comes to, like, she'll do whatever to keep those kids, like, happy and feeling, like, whole.
13:50And I think he played such a role for 10 years that that's one of the reasons she wants to
13:56keep him around because it's for the kids.
13:59Yeah, totally.
13:59And that's probably also why she may be, you know, having smoke for Vicky and not letting go of the
14:04Vicky situation because Vicky brought up the sort of, like, abandonment situation.
14:08Yeah.
14:08But what I loved about Carmela, I think it was in a confessional, she was like, one thing I know
14:11about me is I'm a good mom.
14:13Yes, she's a good mom.
14:13And Vicky can't take that away from me.
14:14No.
14:15Which that was a little bit out of pocket for Vicky to bring up in that sense.
14:18And I'm glad that Heather.
14:20Oh, yeah, fancy pants has activated all season.
14:22We are not.
14:23Stand down.
14:24We are not doing this.
14:25I was, I remember sitting, we were in Vegas and I was like, it was almost like Heather wasn't even
14:29there.
14:30We joked, like, she, like, just descended, like, here's Heather.
14:36Heather did.
14:36Heather was like, not the kids.
14:38But I feel like, you know, as someone who's been doing Housewives for, like, 20 years, like, Vicky kind of
14:42knows, like, kids are off limits.
14:43Like, that's the number one rule of Housewives.
14:45But you know what the thing about Vicky is almost, it's almost like it's Vicky, Tamara or somebody said, every
14:49season's like Vicky's first season.
14:50You, I've been in things and I'm like, hold on, this is the OG.
14:54Does she not know?
14:55Or, but she just, she just, she thinks it and it comes right out.
15:00And also, like, you're the OG.
15:01You should know if you storm to production and say, get out of my house, they're going to film it
15:05and use it.
15:06That might be used.
15:08There's a chance.
15:11Something tells me that might be.
15:12Like, we'll see that.
15:13Three hours away from everything.
15:15Everyone leave.
15:16I love, like, you and Emily, like, do we go in our pajamas?
15:18Like, what the?
15:19Oh, that night got really weird really fast.
15:21It looked like a tinyo.
15:22I'm like, poor Shannon just trying to make, like, pizza and peace.
15:25Oh, this is the Shannon.
15:26She's like, do, do, do, like, flipping pizza.
15:28And then we're both like, what are you doing?
15:31So painfully awkward, but so good.
15:32Yes, but so Shannon.
15:34I know.
15:34I love, because I love that you, I think you asked her in the car if she saw the man
15:38she made out with in the Uber, but he's with someone half her age, I guess now.
15:41I love that she's in the era, though, where she's down to make out in cars, though.
15:44Shannon's making out in cars.
15:46I mean, I tell my kids, don't you dare.
15:48I'm like, Shannon, get in there.
15:49Get in the car.
15:52Make out, girl.
15:53I love it.
15:54I feel this season in particular, she's kind of getting back to a better sense of herself.
15:59I would agree.
16:00Yeah.
16:00I agree.
16:01You know, I can't wait for Shannon to find her partner because she's so deserving of it.
16:06Right.
16:06And she's like a relationship girl.
16:08I think she's, I mean, she has been through some terrible relationships, but I feel like her baseline is she
16:13feels better in a relationship.
16:14So I just hope she finds a guy who, like, treats her with respect.
16:17Same.
16:17And doesn't John Jansen her?
16:19Same.
16:19Or what was the first husband's name?
16:20David.
16:21David.
16:22Oh, my God.
16:23Yikes.
16:23Speaking of how she's treating with respect, I really, I was honestly kind of shocked in a great way that
16:29she was sticking up for you so much in front of Vicky.
16:32Yeah.
16:33Yeah.
16:33Like, I know, to go against Vicky is not an easy task.
16:35Well, and to go against, for Shannon to go against Vicky.
16:38Because they have years of a deep, deep friendship.
16:41The only thing I'll say, and I speak very candid to Shannon and she does with me, too.
16:46Shannon seems like Vicky's friendship is everything to Shannon.
16:50Sometimes it doesn't feel that way from Vicky.
16:53Like, it doesn't feel like it means as much to Vicky as it does for Shannon.
16:57So for Shannon to take a flyer and take up from me to Vicky, I'm like, that means a lot.
17:03That says a lot about the bond you guys have developed recently.
17:06And I like, too, because she was trying to even give, she's like, Vicky, I wouldn't like it if someone
17:09called me that.
17:10And I feel like that's so true, because I feel that with Shannon trying to be like, Vicky, how would
17:14you feel if someone called me that?
17:15And Vicky is like, I don't care.
17:16Yeah.
17:17Yeah, I don't care.
17:18I don't care.
17:18And you know what?
17:19She doesn't.
17:20She's the first to tell you.
17:21Yeah, she's like, I don't care.
17:22And it seems like the comment didn't really bother you, but maybe just the principle of it?
17:26It's funny.
17:27I have to do better with this.
17:28We had just arrived.
17:29We had just got to this beautiful home, poured one drink, set out back.
17:33And it was like, I was excited because I hadn't had the bonding time with Vicky.
17:38And it came right out from go.
17:40And I'm like, and I remember thinking, like, do I say something now or just let it go, Jen?
17:45We just got here.
17:46This is a girl's night.
17:47We're going to, you know, just let it go.
17:48And every time I hear it back, I'm like, that is such a thing to say.
17:53Yeah.
17:53And also, because that's what we were saying.
17:54We're like, oh, I'm like, Jen just has a manor.
17:55She's in Vicky's house.
17:56They just sat down.
17:57Maybe it was going to let it brush off.
17:59But I don't, I'm glad that you took the time to realize, no, I want to process that and
18:04let her know it wasn't okay.
18:05Because it's like, I'm not a throw, I'm here just as much as you are here.
18:08You can't just throw me out.
18:09Yeah.
18:09And why am I low hanging fruit?
18:11What about my life is so disrespectful that I'm, whatever I do or don't do is so beneath
18:16what you do.
18:16Why do you see me that way?
18:17Yeah.
18:18That's also, she's like, I don't know you, you're new, but you can use my relationship
18:22timeline as a throwaway line.
18:24Yeah.
18:24You know what I mean?
18:25So it's like, what is it?
18:25Yeah.
18:26What is it?
18:26What is it for you?
18:27I agree.
18:28You told us that you don't think Carmella is going anywhere.
18:30And I love that she has the Jempa Dranti staying power.
18:34How do you think Vicky will feel about Carmella hanging out for more than one season?
18:37I think they're going to have to figure it out.
18:38Yeah.
18:39And I think it's really not Carmella's job at this point.
18:41Yeah.
18:42It's Vicky's job.
18:44Carmella's done nothing but been good to Vicky.
18:47And I think now Vicky's going to have to come around.
18:49Do you think Vicky will ever get a Dior bag?
18:51Who?
18:51Because you have gotten yourself a Dior bag from Carmella, which is so exciting.
18:55So I can't wait for my next birthday.
18:57Did you get it for your birthday?
18:58I got it for my birthday.
18:59Oh, hell yeah.
18:59Oh my God.
19:01You showed it to us.
19:01It's so cute.
19:02You know what?
19:03When I met Carmella, she told me about her girlfriends and how important her girlfriends
19:07are.
19:07And this is what they do.
19:08So for people to be like, why is she coming into this friend group?
19:11She's trying to buy in.
19:12No, she's not.
19:13She's doing what she does.
19:14Yeah.
19:14How she operates.
19:15And she's a powerhouse because I want to just dole out yours to all my girlfriends.
19:20I kind of thought it was a flex where she's like, I feel like in her head, she's like,
19:23it's a Dior bag.
19:24It's a Dior bag.
19:26It's a Dior bag.
19:27Yeah.
19:27I'm like, I love that from her.
19:28It's a Yankee candle.
19:30A Yankee candle, which is also a great gift.
19:33Which we love.
19:33Yeah, exactly.
19:35Marshalls.
19:35I'm trying to scrape it off the bottom.
19:36Wait, no, actually, I don't know.
19:37I don't know if you saw the New York Housewives premiere, but Jessel gave Cy a re-gifted Christmas
19:43candle.
19:43I love it.
19:44Isn't that amazing?
19:45I love it.
19:45I love it.
19:46That's our style.
19:47I'm here, boy.
19:48I can resonate.
19:49Yeah.
19:50I know.
19:50And I guess the only thing that Carmella did, I think, maybe called Vicky Betty White.
19:53Yeah.
19:55Which Betty White is an icon.
19:56An icon, for sure.
19:57Yeah.
19:58She was in her 90s as an icon.
19:59I also love the flashback of Betty White with Heather Dubrow.
20:02Like the fact that they were in each other's orbit.
20:04Yes, exactly.
20:05The fact that Bravo had that footage.
20:06That's amazing.
20:08I know Heather was like, hey, I once met Betty White.
20:11Heather's probably like, just in case you forgot.
20:13There is footage if you go here.
20:16Oh, my God.
20:17We love Heather.
20:17We love you so much, Jen.
20:19We're so happy.
20:19We're good to see you.
20:19I appreciate it.
20:20I know.
20:21Thanks for having me.
20:22I was enjoying you both.
20:23Thanks for having me.
20:24Hello.
20:27You
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