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00:18David Koresh, Branch Davidians
00:23Shoko Asahara, Arm Supreme Truth
00:28Jody Mambro, Order of the Solar Temple
00:31Jim Jones, The People's Temple
00:35Four men, four leaders whose crusades led to suicide, violence, and death
00:47Waco, Texas, April 1993
00:50David Koresh, under siege with his followers at Mount Carmel, refuses to lay down arms
00:55Toll, 74 dead
00:59Tokyo, Japan, March 1995
01:01Shoko Asahara, orders a sarin gas attack in his subway station
01:05Toll, 12 dead, 5,000 injured
01:11Cherie, Switzerland, October 1994
01:14Joseph Di Mambro, organizes a transit to the planet Sirius
01:17Murder and suicide
01:19Total body count, 53 dead in Switzerland and Canada
01:26Following a man to the grave
01:29Sacrificing one's life for an ideal
01:32Blinded by faith to the point of killing
01:35Not all cult followers go to these extremes
01:38Thank you very much
01:40Thank you
01:40Thank you very much
02:07I was at a very vulnerable point in my life
02:11I was very easily impressionable at that age
02:15And I was looking for something to happen
02:19I was looking for a spiritual research
02:21I was looking for a spiritual research
02:22And I was waiting for people to share the same ideal
02:25So I was looking for nast preparations
02:26Why, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how
02:55Whatever. Just so long as it makes people dream, gives them hope for a better life.
03:25That's the stage of the stage, the stage of the world, is the greatest leader of Tibet, Dalai Ramaphong.
03:37In the Caribbean camp, a few kilometers from Trois-Rivières, a new project is launched, and it is an envergure.
03:46The implementation of the largest biological production in Quebec.
03:52Au départ, c'était strictement ou presque à 100% d'entrer dans une association de culture biologique pour en
04:03apprendre plus, pour le pratiquer davantage, pour en tirer profit aussi.
04:07Je trouve que c'est une expérience super enrichissante de faire ça parce qu'on est enfermé à longueur d
04:11'année entre quatre murs, ce que je veux dire, dans une école.
04:14Je pense que la meilleure expérience qu'on peut trouver, c'est en pleine nature, dehors.
04:17On est toujours au plein air, on est toujours pleine d'énergie, puis on fait ça jusqu'à très tard
04:22le soir, même des fois, puis j'en reviens pas comment on est dynamique.
04:29Lofty ideals, a warm and stimulating atmosphere, and especially the gurus, leaders who can answer the questions, all the questions.
04:38Dr. Jouret, number two man at the Order of the Solar Temple, was very good at this little game.
04:49Ce qui va séduit dans les conférences du Dr. Jouret, c'était l'impression qu'il donnait, qu'il y
04:54avait des réponses au drame existentiel que moi je pouvais avoir en tant qu'être humain et que beaucoup de
04:59gens alentour de moi semblaient aussi avoir.
05:17A lecture, a book, initially every cult hides behind an alibi.
05:23No one joins a cult.
05:26People join a religious group.
05:28People join a political group.
05:30People join a therapy self-help group.
05:32What we would do is we would go to churches, and we would start Bible study groups.
05:38We wouldn't tell them what we were really, we wouldn't come to them straight and say,
05:43Hi, this guy is David Koresh, he's got so many wives, and he's going to be the king of the
05:47world.
05:47We wouldn't do that.
05:49We would start Bible study groups.
05:52Hey, let's come and look at the Bible.
05:54Let's look at these prophecies.
05:56And there would always be people who are interested.
05:59I want to know what truth is, and I'm searching for it.
06:02And if he happens to be the vehicle that shows me, I thank God for him.
06:07Somebody here is reading the Bible and teaching me about it.
06:12This time, when Christ reveals himself, it's going to be according to the book.
06:16Because there's some statements in there that might make you a little bit happy.
06:20Okay?
06:21Such as the rest of Psalms 40.
06:23Lord, I have preached righteousness in the great congregation.
06:27What's he going to preach?
06:29Righteousness.
06:30Seven seals.
06:33Aum Supreme Truth also came in disguise, and initial approaches were made behind the reassuring mask of yoga classes.集中セミナーが行われました。
07:00Yogaのアーサナで会員を募集して、オウムということを隠して募集をして、アーサナと私の方に引きつけておいて、それから実はオウムですよと。
07:02The most effective weapon of seduction is love.
07:06I look down and I see one of our sisters here who's 97.
07:09Stand up sister ever.
07:1197 years young.
07:13Very few people could cook as good as she does.
07:15She cooks wonderful lemon pies.
07:16And she's 97 years old.
07:18And you never ate such lemon pies as she cooks.
07:21The most of the sects are in search of love, who are in search of love, who are in search
07:28of support.
07:29These are people who are solitaires, who have a hard to communicate, who have a hard to communicate, who have
07:32a hard to exchange with autrui.
07:33And la secte va les matraquer en leur disant, on vous aime, vous êtes les plus beaux, vous êtes incompris,
07:41d'accord, mais nous on sait que vous avez une valeur intrinsèque.
08:10Now, now will each of you give up.
08:14You give a very fond embrace, a salutary kiss, a greeting to your neighbor.
08:20And let's fill this atmosphere with warmth and love.
08:31So it was easy to recruit people, because we were doing it with such love, persuasion.
08:37And always there was a lot of emotionalism, a lot of hugging, a lot of kissing, a lot of touching,
08:44a lot of drawing people in by a superficial love, emotional love.
08:52Rather than turning people to the love of God, it was more, and so people were drawn into that, because
08:57people need love.
09:12They get you when you're weak, and they get you when you're down, you're depressed, you're lonely, you've lost a
09:18job, or you've lost a love, or you know, where you're just not feeling so good.
09:39When people are being recruited into the cult, they're made to feel like they're really special.
09:44You're so intelligent, you're so gifted, you're so talented, and so that serves as a real carrot in front of
09:53the horse to go forward.
10:27The fact that we feel valued, important, recognized, as much as I am, is one of the fundamental things for
10:36the existence of a human being.
10:37And during the time of solar, we gave us so much this sensation that it was almost impossible even to
10:46think of being able to pass.
10:50I offer a new world.
10:54Ecarte les fantômes.
10:56Ils ne sont qu'en papier.
10:58It's a drug of the brain and it goes much further than that.
11:02C'est une drogue émotive.
11:04Et vu que nous sommes des individus qui réagissent, sont beaucoup avec nos émotions, ça vient nous chercher dans nos
11:11trêpes.
11:12Prends ma vision.
11:14Prends ma main.
11:16Pose des pas dans les miens.
11:18Cet appel à l'intérieur, il est tellement fort, c'est tellement fort que de toute façon, il n'y
11:22a plus rien d'important.
11:23Même la femme qui vous dit que, mais Yvan ça va pas, ou bien les enfants qui pleurent parce qu
11:28'on a plus le même comportement qu'avant, c'est pas important.
11:33Je t'emmène.
11:38Viens.
11:38...
11:55Je m'appelle mes amis et me disait là où je l'étais et là, ce que j'étais fait.
11:59Et la plupart des gens pensaient que j'étais connu et que je ne devrais pas aller.
12:02Et je disais, je disais, que j'ai dû faire le même.
12:06...
12:19The lure works.
12:22The new members are dazzled by an illusion of brilliance, warmth, communion, and oneness.
12:32The seduction is complete.
12:35I know that there was a wonderful sense of community.
12:38A real loyalty and camaraderie.
12:41We had some wonderful times.
12:43You make some incredible friends.
12:45During this period, we were all very happy to be together.
12:50We had the impression of working on the same things,
12:52being on the same length.
12:55We were happy. We lived on the same things.
12:58We had the same discussions.
13:00We were all together.
13:02So it was a pleasure.
13:04It was certainly a pleasure.
13:14The paradoxes that surprised the people in general,
13:17is when we say that in a sect, we are happy.
13:20And it's all normal.
13:21La secte agit comme une famille de substitution.
13:25Ça agit comme un groupe de réconfort.
13:27Alors, c'est bien évident qu'ensuite, il y a un prix à payer.
13:30On doit travailler, on doit faire des courbettes devant le gourou,
13:33on doit faire des prières, etc., etc.
13:34Mais c'est le prix que l'on paye pour une psychothérapie au quotidien
13:38et pour une forme d'accueil familial au quotidien.
13:42La secte d'accueil, c'est-à-c'est-à-c'est-à-c'est-à-c'est-à-c
13:47'est.
13:55La secte d'accueil, c'est-à-c'est-à-c'est-à-c'est.
14:17Sous-à-c'est-à-c'est-à-c'est-à-c'est.
14:21New members soon discover the exhilarating mission that will change their lives.
14:28They must fight the forces of evil.
14:31They must serve the cause.
14:34They must save humanity.
14:37It was very刺激 of human beings, but TV, mass media, such as human beings,
14:51I was very familiar with the story.
14:53I was very familiar with the story.
14:57I was able to make a difference between the reality and the idea
14:59and I was able to become the main character.
15:14How to save humanity,
15:16by our inner purity,
15:19by our positive thoughts,
15:20of regeneration, so we were the sauveurs of humanity
15:24by all the rayonnement that we could have.
15:40The course of things in this terrestrial world
15:43is going to lead us into a wave of no return.
15:48It's where humans are not equal in creation.
15:53Is there not a difference between humans
15:58and people who have something more?
16:04Obviously, those who have something more are the cult members.
16:09They will be isolated from the rest of the world
16:12by being made to believe that they are different,
16:15that they belong to an elite who alone can save the world
16:19and attain the ultimate truth.
16:21An intoxicating idea and very hard to resist.
16:40When I believed in Koresh, it was exciting to think that
16:44here I was among the billions of people on the earth
16:48and that I had been sort of chosen to be a part of, you know,
16:53one of the leaders in this new order.
16:55We were like elite, we were like it, you know, there was nothing higher.
17:02The sect works by saying
17:06you are the best in the outside.
17:09These are those who have not understood.
17:12You have the truth revealed in the outside.
17:15They are in the darkness.
17:16You are the strongest in the outside.
17:19They are the most weak.
17:20You are those who detain the supreme truth.
17:23They are in the darkness.
17:25They are in the darkness.
17:25They are in the darkness.
17:26They are in the darkness.
17:26You are in the darkness.
17:27Obviously, the ego has a important role in what I mean.
17:32The fact of being different from others,
17:35superior to others,
17:37to have access to revelations
17:38that the mortal common would never have access to.
17:43All of this came to me
17:47and I was dependent,
17:52but totally dependent
17:53of these individuals
17:56who were facing me
17:58for my personal identity at that time.
18:04To reinforce the members' beliefs,
18:07any means will do, even trickery.
18:09And remember,
18:12the Graal Melchisedec.
18:18Ceremonies for the Order of the Solar Temple faithful
18:21would finish with the appearance of the Holy Grail.
18:25The members were, of course, blissfully unaware
18:27of the techniques used in the deception.
18:33Any loose threads in yarns
18:35spun by the gurus
18:36are quickly tied up.
18:38When Joe DiMambro
18:40accidentally got one of his followers pregnant,
18:42he declared that a miracle had occurred
18:44and announced the advent of the future Messiah.
18:47He staged a whole production to this effect,
18:50where the mother-to-be
18:51was impregnated with the tip of a sword.
18:54The reality, obviously, was much less poetic.
18:56If we take this sword,
18:59from this side here,
19:00which has an appearance completely ordinary,
19:03we return the sword,
19:05and we realize that at the end,
19:07there is a little red light.
19:09You have a wire that runs throughout the sword.
19:14You arrive at an interruptor and a pile.
19:18This suffice to pass off the event as an immaculate conception.
19:22The child, a little girl named Emmanuel,
19:26would grow up respected and revered by the members.
19:30Personne n'aurait eu l'idée de mettre en doute quoi que ce soit,
19:33de toute façon.
19:34D'en faire part, surtout.
19:36Parce que alors là, si on pouvait avoir un doute,
19:40on était tout de suite des exclus, quoi.
19:41Sister Ingram,
19:46you're concerned about the losing,
19:51the losing of your sight.
19:54He was supposed to have some type of paranormal faculty
19:57to have the ability to call people out by name,
20:01social security number, car license number,
20:05and tell them what was wrong with them
20:07and supposedly heal them of that disease.
20:11You've told me nothing about your condition.
20:14Is that correct?
20:14No, I haven't.
20:15You're not able to see me clearly.
20:19Things just blur to you.
20:21You have to stumble around lately through crowds
20:24and are not able to see even people's faces
20:28close up to you clearly.
20:31That's true.
20:32He had people working with him to stage it.
20:34They'd go into people's homes, get information from them,
20:38these people, and take it back to him.
20:41Oh, he'd be up front in the meeting that night or next night
20:44and he'd read this stuff off about these people
20:46that they had been in their homes
20:47and they'd think, how does he know that, you know?
20:50And how many of you in here have been healed of arthritis, cancer?
20:54How many of you in here?
20:57That's right.
20:58So many of you.
20:58We all, I'm grateful.
21:00And I know everyone else is here.
21:01Thank you very much.
21:04The way he would do the cancers is the nurses would take chicken gizzards
21:10and livers and lay them in plastic bags in the sun for several days.
21:16Then they would keep those in a plastic container covered.
21:21And then he would call somebody out of the audience that had cancer.
21:24And the nurse would take them back to the bathroom.
21:28And she would have these intestines in her pocketbook
21:36and then would profess that that cancer came from the person who had cancer,
21:43who thought that they were cured.
21:59Fake apparitions, fake miracles, fake powers, no matter.
22:04As with all propaganda, the bigger the lie, the better it's swallowed.
22:08Example, these doctored photos of Asahara levitating.
22:28Before managing 30 seconds or a minute of flight, however,
22:32the member has a long, hard road to travel.
22:48And there's no question of a demonstration by the master himself.
22:52Asahara only flies in private and with the greatest discretion.
23:08Instead of a demonstration, you're advised to buy the instruction manual, the handbook, the video cassette, and the T-shirt.
23:15$50, never too expensive, but it's only the beginning.
23:18It soon becomes clear that in order to progress, you have to pay.
23:29This way, you have to pay attention to the
23:52I always look at it, but it's really difficult to see it.
23:58Also, in the UOMU, there is a huge amount of money.
24:06The ordinary believers can only do so.
24:10Some people could pass three cars in six months,
24:15and others could pass one per year.
24:36The leaders are never short of ideas when it comes to getting followers to part with their money.
24:43The leaders are never short of ideas when it comes to getting followers to part with their money.
24:47They are not short of money.
24:53They are not short of money.
25:07They are one or two.
25:12They are not short of money.
25:19The leaders are not short of money.
25:31I believe the leaders are not short of money.
25:37I can't even buy toys for my children the only one who can buy toys for them is
25:45Koresh one thing that was very very sad about it is when people came to Guyana
25:50whatever possessions that they had there was totally stripped of them
25:53everything they had was taken from them and I was a part of that you know it's
25:58sad today I look back and say if I had a I wish I could have changed the things
26:01that I did that I did not know better than to do but we took their watches
26:06their radios whatever they owned any little piece of anything was taken
26:10became community propertyまあ私はお伏せをしますということを承諾しましたしかし家をお伏せするということに対して母親はもう反対をしましただから母親が邪魔になって
26:403月の20日の深夜約10人ぐらいで入って
26:50ワゴン車でその4人のものが母を上食い式村へ連れて行きました
26:51the end justifies the means and so if we use deception or duplicity or we do
26:59some things that that may not appear to be totally fair or equitous that's okay
27:07because we're working towards a certain goal
27:18financial commitment spiritual commitment
27:21belonging to an elite the importance of the mission to be carried out the trap is beginning to close in
27:28on the follower
27:29to condition a individual
27:32grosso modo on peut dire qu'il y a trois étapes
27:34d'abord il faut essayer de séduire il faut l'amener à accepter l'idéologie les idées qui sont vendues
27:41par la secte
27:42dans un deuxième temps il faut détruire le vieil homme il faut détruire l'ancienne personnalité il faut détruire la
27:51personne qui existait avant l'entrée dans la secte
27:53il faut casser sa personnalité casser sa personne sociale casser ses liens sociaux familiaux professionnels etc
27:58et ensuite dans un troisième temps il faut le reconstruire sur le modèle sectaire sur les nouvelles règles de fonctionnement
28:05sur les nouvelles règles sociales
28:06sur les nouvelles lois sur les surtout le ce qui va faire l'adepte
28:11et là il ya un sacrifice de sa vie
28:13il ne s'agit plus à ce moment là de prévoir ses vacances
28:16le pognon qu'on va laisser à nos enfants etc parce que de toute façon tout ça c'est déjà
28:19terminé
28:20et ce sont des figures qui ne gèneront pas si ils nous donnent le dollar de la buée
28:23d'accord
28:28in the name of the cause of the supreme mission
28:30the members agree to change their habits
28:33always for good reasons
28:36one example
28:37sleep
28:39their task is enormous
28:41so they have to work more
28:42and sleep less
28:49and sleep
28:49at that moment
28:51at that moment-là
28:52the company is what he does
28:53he works the day and he works with the subtle plans at night
28:56but he is always in the state of the day
28:58he does the more in the morning
29:01at that moment he will learn to sleep in the morning
29:08it is not easy to play
29:27I was like seven or eight you know he would just make you go stand up and he used to
29:34have like a spray bottle and he'd spray with water on your face if you try to fall asleep or
29:39I mean he did a lot of different things or he'd just like throw something down and make a big
29:43noise and you'd be really scared and you'd stand up
29:45people would stand up to do their washing and fall asleep on the washing machine
29:51any place where we could catch just a couple of minutes sleep
29:54at one point you just want it to end
29:57so you say whatever you're supposed to say to make him think that you understand what he's trying to teach
30:04you and hopefully it'll end so you can go and get some sleep
30:10sleep deprivation is an effective technique
30:13in laboratories like this one in Lyon, France
30:16the effects of lack of sleep are studied on rats
30:19the results are identical where humans are concerned
30:23and particularly interesting in the cult context
30:27the first sign after a night blanche is the trouble of the mood
30:32then there are signs like the suggestibility
30:38that is that we suggest something to someone
30:40and this person does it
30:42so that in the normal mood, if she sleeps well, she won't do it
30:47in many concentration camps
30:50wake up is very early
30:52just to destroy the patient's volition
30:54the patient's motivation to fight
30:57so during the daytime
30:58they are very easy to be subjected to command
31:04to concept
31:07they have no strength to fight
31:09to criticize
31:10to have a good judgment
31:11so
31:12slowly
31:13they sort of like a zombie
31:15like a soldier
31:15they said
31:16whatever they said
31:17they go
31:22exhausted and isolated
31:24the community is cut off from the world
31:28from now on
31:29the only reference they have
31:31is the leader
31:38all outside influence is polluted, contaminated
31:41another example, food
31:43in the order of the solar temple
31:45hygiene bordered on phobia
31:48les règles d'hygiène dans une cuisine sont très très nombreuses
31:51c'est un endroit où il faut que l'hygiène soit la plus stricte dans toute la maison en fait
31:57donc à l'intérieur de la communauté c'est vrai que nous avions une hygiène de vie très stricte
32:02c'est-à-dire qu'on devenait presque maniaque
32:05en règle générale on pourrait dire de toute façon qu'on n'est jamais assez maniaque
32:09en ce qui concerne l'hygiène de la cuisine
32:11tout à fait
32:13all the food had to be washed seven times
32:16sometimes even with bleach
32:18bonjour monsieur
32:19vous nous préparez une bonne salade pour le souper
32:21oui
32:21il fallait laver tous les soirs le sol à l'eau de javel
32:24donc tous les jours tous les jours
32:26il fallait tout désinfecter
32:27pour ne pas
32:29pour ne pas prendre les énergies des autres
32:32pour ne pas être contaminé par les énergies des autres
32:34ne pas contaminer les autres par notre propre énergie
32:37ne pas mélanger les énergies
32:43The rest of the world is seen as hell
32:46a place ruled by lust, money, violence, drugs and evil
32:52Little by little anything that does not belong to the cult is condemned, cursed, forbidden
33:12C'était difficile de me trouver mettons dans des magasins
33:16de frôler des gens ou n'importe
33:19fallait surtout pas que je touche trop les gens
33:22ils me contamineraient entre guillemets
33:24par leurs énergies
33:26négative et basse
33:28c'était rime là外の情報というものに対して全て
33:46déchageあるいは捏造がほとんどである正しい情報ではない悪いデータであるというふうに認識してました恐怖という感情よりも物というよりも哀れな世界だないうふうに思っていました
33:50You couldn't use the
33:52telephone
33:52without permission
33:53and when you did use the telephone
33:55you were always watched
33:58and your mail was watched
34:00he used to go through the mail
34:02most of the time
34:05and if he thought
34:06that you didn't need to read a particular letter
34:09he would throw it away
34:11or he would read it himself
34:12or he wouldn't tell you
34:14Family life is the individual's
34:17last line of defense
34:18and officially
34:19members families are always welcome
34:21in reality
34:23they too become a target
34:35He broke all families in some way or the other
34:39we didn't function as a normal family
34:40my father was not my father
34:42my father was only my father in name
34:44Jim Jones was my father
34:46he was the one who said whether I could
34:48or whether I couldn't
34:49so what happened to the family?
34:51He would set up
34:53marriages
34:54he would set up
34:55partners
34:56periodically
34:57and tried to
34:59threaten me with that
35:00the same night
35:01that he beat me
35:01you know
35:03he accused me
35:04of all kinds of things
35:04and he says
35:04I ought to put you with this
35:06there was another black woman
35:07and she was having
35:08some kind of a problem
35:09he says
35:09I ought to put you two together
35:11you know
35:13you two belong together
35:14so that's it
35:18the pressure mounts
35:20life becomes harder and harder
35:23the members are trapped in a system
35:25that makes them accept everything
35:27day after day
35:28for the cause
35:30it's a gradual process
35:32which takes
35:34months
35:34in the case of Jim Jones
35:36for some of these people
35:37years
35:37and that each step
35:39you escalate
35:41more and more
35:42so at any point
35:43what you're doing
35:44is no different
35:45not very much different
35:46than you did yesterday
35:47but very different
35:48than you did a month ago
35:49but you don't notice
35:50because each step
35:52is barely noticeable difference
35:54you feel like
35:56you know
35:56your lives are in their hands
35:58instead of your own
35:59you've lost facts
36:01lost sight of the fact
36:03that we are in control
36:04of our own lives
36:05and our own destiny
36:06not some other human being
36:07in the experience
36:09which has been carried out
36:10in laboratory
36:10we realized that
36:11an individual who is
36:12committed to a permanent pressure
36:14for a few days
36:16or a few weeks
36:16he has no ability
36:18to resist
36:19it is to say
36:20that when we
36:21prive an individual
36:21of sleep
36:22alimentation
36:23when we modify
36:24his rules of function
36:25at the level of sexual
36:26and relational
36:27when we commit
36:29to a work force
36:30when we condition
36:31intellectually
36:32the maximum resistance
36:33of an individual
36:34is a month
36:36a month and a half
36:37two months
36:39a month
36:40a month
36:41a month
36:41a month
36:41a month
36:42a month
36:43a month
36:45a month
36:46a month
36:49a month
36:50a month
36:50you become nothing
36:51you become nothing
36:52you have nothing to hold on to
36:53you just become a number among the group
36:56and you have no life left
37:02the follower has given everything up
37:04nothing remains from the past
37:06he has become someone else
37:08he has become someone else
37:40a new man who has but one mission in life to serve and worship the almighty leader
37:52the
37:53at
37:53truth
37:54it is
38:07human
38:07the
38:10episode
38:14.
38:14.
38:14.
38:14.
38:15.
38:16.
38:17.
38:17.
38:19.
38:21.
38:21This is a video called the Asahara's The Seto.
38:25It was a day of one person, and there was a monitor.
38:32There was a key that was closed and I could not see it.
38:40The sound was not happening.
38:54Shoko Asahara was a high-tech guru who used all the latest resources available.
39:04One example, this headset with electrodes.
39:11Officially, it was used to allow followers to be on the same divine wavelength as their
39:15leader.
39:16I also had a headgear.
39:22It drives the heart of the head.
39:27I heard that I had a member of the family.
39:31The family member was very much aware of the development and it was very clear that
39:38Asahara wanted to create a robot.
39:39I was able to create human beings.
40:09very effective. I mean, whoever put this together knew what they were doing, but they were basically
40:14homemade. Professor Persinger stopped using this type of apparatus 15 years ago. The side effects
40:21were too serious. Significant behavioral changes were observed. Subjecting the human brain to
40:27certain kinds of electrical stimulus is therefore of interest to a cult. If you stimulated the
40:32person's brain repeatedly day after day, you could basically change their behavior, change their
40:38definition of who they were, who they think they are, in terms of their definition
40:42of self. And you could also increase their suggestibility remarkably.
40:58To sleep, to eat, to eat, to eat, to eat, to eat, to eat, to eat, to eat, to eat.
41:30Professor Persinger
41:32the world, the center of their world. He has complete power. Serving him is never a sacrifice.
41:39He was giving us the opportunity to become a bride of Christ. Now think about it. I know
41:47that sounds crazy, but think about what that means. You have the chance to marry the most
41:55perfect man in the universe. I didn't feel like I was violated then. I felt like,
42:03I felt really privileged, kind of.
42:47Blind obedience, absolute devotion. The indoctrination is complete.
42:56No one escapes, not even the children.
43:16Loving the leader is obligatory. These images were filmed by Branch Davidians during the Waco siege,
43:23a few days before the final attack. David Koresh wants one answer and one answer only from his children.
43:31Do you love your daddy? How much do you love me? How much? Huh? You love daddy? Huh? You love
43:42daddy? Huh?
43:45You love me? Am I good daddy? Yeah. Good. All right. The first thing Sean remembers about his father is
43:56his father beating the living hell out of him.
44:04If there is a possibility that babies can act insane, then yeah, my baby did because he would laugh and
44:13cry and clap. He laughed because he knew that if he laughed he wouldn't get spanked because Vernon would spank
44:19him for not, you know, he was scared of him and Vernon would spank him for being scared.
44:31The children, uh, he started a thing where he had them paddled with a wooden board, um, and microphones were
44:37put to their mouths so that their screams and cries, uh, could be heard, you know, even louder.
44:46He would do this to all the children. He would do it to all of them, to where their butts
44:51bled and, um, to say that it's okay.
44:57Punishment, repression, even torture become routine. The master explains that they are necessary for the cause.
45:07The master says that they are necessary for the cause of the cause of the cause of the cause of
45:13the cause of the cause of the cause.
45:15this is people who are listening to sweat
45:19that they were killed
45:21and they would be used to the
45:24cause they would be
45:28thrown in their case
45:29so they would kill
45:32the actual crime
45:34and they would be violent
45:3750 degrees of water
45:41This is the jet engine.
45:42We use 15 minutes.
45:46It's time to protect the heat and get more water from the air.
45:52It's really dangerous.
45:57It's a very dangerous situation.
45:59And a lot of people are so scared of the air.
46:02And they are so scared of the air.
46:12In Guyana, where Michael has come back for the first time, the punishment for disobedience was equally severe.
46:20There was one time in Jonestown, one of the things that opened my eyes to, with all the questions that
46:28I had, what was right and what was wrong,
46:30was there was a young girl who he had asked to have sex with her, and when she refused to
46:37have sex, then he started giving her drugs.
46:42She was heavily sedated, and we used to watch her walk around Jonestown completely zombie-like.
46:52She acted like she didn't have a brain, like she at times acted like she didn't even know her own
46:57name.
46:58And we had an area, they built a box with no light in it at all, and they were sticking
47:04people in it, or tried to stick people in it,
47:07where they could try to reshape their mind the way that they thought about causing trouble or possibly even leaving
47:15Jonestown.
47:37Jonestown私の長男は、言うことを聞かない帰りたいということで、40日間、藤宮の独房っていうね、真っ暗な部屋に閉じ込めて。独房修行っていうのは、トラックのコンテナがありますね。そういうコンテナの箱に、そうですね、スペースで言うと一畳もない、半畳ぐらいのスペースに閉じ込められるわけです。
47:58それも外側から鍵をかけられて、半畳ぐらいのスペースに、そうですね、座るときも普通には座れないというか、座禅を組んだまま、その状態で、えー、まあ、その管理人というか監視人がOKを出すまで、ずっと閉じ込められた状態になります。
48:12この修行は確かに、気が狂うほど辛い修行で、これに入れられた人たちで何人か気が変になってしまった人たちがやっぱりいます。
48:13conditioning、 surveillance、 and repression。
48:16Why don't they run away?
48:18Because often it's already too late.
48:21The walls are too high.
48:22The psychological barriers too great.
48:25From now on, whatever the circumstances, they will follow their leader,
48:29the man to whom they have given everything, the man they have made a god, their god.
48:59I don't know.
49:37Next week's episode of Killer Cults,
49:40The Men Who Would Be Gods.
49:41And after this break, Des Mangan will introduce tonight's cult movie, The Killer.
50:31And after this break, Des Mangan will introduce tonight's cult movie, The Killer.
50:44In 1994, he orders his followers to organize a transit to the planet Sirius.
50:50Fifty-three dead.
50:54David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidians.
50:57In 1993, he leads his followers in a standoff with the FBI.
51:03Seventy-four dead.
51:08Jim Jones, leader of the People's Temple.
51:12In 1978, he orders a mass revolutionary suicide.
51:17Nine-hundred-and-twenty-three people died.
51:19Nine-hundred-and-twenty-three people died.
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