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00:07Iginit po ng dalawa opisyal ng AFP na tumestigo sa impeachment trial
00:11ni Vice President Sara Duterte
00:12na walang natanggap ng confidential funds ng DEPED
00:15ang kanilang unit para sa Youth Leadership Summit ng AFP.
00:19Hindi daw nila alam na gagamitin ng kagawaran
00:22ang kanilang certification para sa liquidation ng confidential fund.
00:26Success si Joseph Moro.
00:31Dalawang opisyal ng Armed Forces of the Philippines
00:34ang sumalang bilang testigo ngayong araw sa impeachment trial
00:37ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:39Ipinasabina si na Colonel Manaros Boransing II
00:42at Colonel Magtanggol Panopyo ng prosekusyon
00:45para sa mga AFP certification
00:47na may kaugnayan sa liquidation ng confidential funds
00:50in Department of Education.
00:52Kasama sila sa mga Youth Leadership Summit ng AFP noong 2023
00:56para maiwasang ma-recruit ng mga kriminal at terrorist group
00:59ang mga kabataan.
01:01Ang prosekusyon sinilip ang budget nila
01:03para sa mga Youth Leadership Summit.
01:05Yung pong budget ng Army para sa YLS,
01:09kailan po ito hinahanda?
01:12Well, of course sir, we follow the government budget process.
01:19It's one year before.
01:21We submit our activities,
01:24I think first quarter and second quarter
01:26that we want to be funded.
01:28If the budget is for 2027, it's 2026.
01:32Ibat-ibang government agency rin daw
01:34nakikisa sa mga aktividad ng AFP noong 2023
01:38at kabilang dyan ang DepEd
01:40na na'y pinamumunuan ang vicepresidente.
01:42Saan po nanggaling yung funding
01:44para dun sa YLS at IEC activities nyo noong 2023?
01:50For the 2023 Youth Leadership Summit sir,
01:54the funding for the whole activity itself
01:58came from various government agencies sir.
02:02For the Army participants,
02:03it was from the Army in the budget of the Army.
02:07For the students and out-of-school youth participants,
02:12it was funded from the provincial, city or municipal local government funds.
02:20For the other participants from other agencies or civilian stakeholders,
02:26it was from their own funding sir.
02:28Inusisa rin sa pagdinig kung gumamit ba ng confidential funds on DepEd
02:32nung lumahok sila sa mga aktividad ng AFP.
02:35Would you know if DepEd spent on that activity on their own people
02:40because you collaborated with DepEd on that activity?
02:44Would you know?
02:44Sabi nyo kanina kasi, KKB eh.
02:46Yes sir.
02:47What I know is they arrived there.
02:50They were there during the Youth Leadership Summits.
02:53Did you spend intelligence or confidential funds
02:56for these activities on the part of the AFP?
03:00Or was this part of your regular programming,
03:03as you said earlier, chargeable against your regular budget?
03:05It's a part of the regular budget sir.
03:08Bilang pagpapatunay ng pakikisa ng DepEd sa mga naturang aktividad,
03:12hininga ng dalawang opisyal ng AFP ng certification.
03:16In your case, sino po ang humingi ng certification?
03:20I was directed by our then commander of the 1st Infantry Tabak Division,
03:27Major General Viray, to draft the certification.
03:31He was called by USEC Undersecretary Mempin.
03:38Yung pro-certification ay in compliance with the order of my commander
03:42to issue certifications to DepEd in coordination with then USEC Nulasco Mempin, Your Honor.
03:48It is part of my job to issue certificates to our partners,
03:52especially on activities conducted by the division, Your Honor.
03:55Pero hindi mo na nila alam na gagamitin ito ng DepEd sa liquidation ng kanilang confidential funds.
04:02Doon ko lang po for malinalaman yung information na yun yun at all.
04:06Did you have any reaction upon hearing or knowing that?
04:12Medyo nagulat po kami kasi yung po kaming certification is only for the certification that we conducted,
04:19the Youth Leadership Summit.
04:21Hindi po namin sinacertify anything about money or funds, Your Honor.
04:27Lumumas man sa liquidation ng DepEd ang certification ng dalawang opisyal.
04:31Iginit nila na wala raw silang nakuhang pondo mula sa kagawaran.
04:35Nakasaad sa liquidation report ng DepEd, nakabuang 15.54 million pesos.
04:40Ang ginastas nito mula sa confidential fund na ipinambayad mo na sa reward kapalit ng impormasyon.
04:46Gano po kalaki ang funding by way of confidential funds na ipinrovide ng DepEd
04:54para sa YLS at IEC activities nyo noong 2023?
05:01There was no funding released to the 1st Infantry Division from DepEd, sir.
05:10Sir, there were no funds from other, any government agency released to the 1st Infantry Tabak Division, sir.
05:19Ang depensa, hindi nga nagsagawa ng cross-examination sa dalawang military personnel.
05:24Kaya naman sa pagsimula ng interjection ng mga Sen. Judge, sinilip ni Sen. Judge Bamaquino
05:30kung magkano nga ba ang pondo ng AFP para sa mga Youth Leadership Summit.
05:34Yung 8 na YLS na pinag-uusapan natin, magkano po yung total nun?
05:39For the Army, it's around 30,000 per activity.
05:43So hindi hula lampas ng 500,000 pesos yung ginastos sa YLS?
05:48No, sir.
05:48Hindi ko kayo nagtaka na 15,000,000 yung ginastos para sa information for events that don't cost more than
05:55maybe 200,000, 150,000 to 200,000 per event?
06:00I did not know the amount or that there was any funds by the DepEd po, sir.
06:07Si Senate President Wingat Shalyan inusisa ang certification ni Panopio.
06:11Dito sa inyong letter, itong galing sa DepEd, ito ba ay confidential information or surveillance information?
06:19I assume that it came from the teachers on the ground as members of the DepEd who provided us the
06:25information on how and where to conduct the YLS.
06:29Masasabi natin na somehow meron pong secret, meron pong confidential or meron din pong open source.
06:36Tanong naman ng ilang Senator Judge, kailangan bang gumamit ng DepEd ng confidential funds sa ganitong aktibidad?
06:42Tumigil po ba sila yung mga teachers on the ground na mag-coordinate sa inyo nung nawala na yung confidential
06:49funds ng DepEd?
06:51I think on the ground, tuloy-tuloy naman po ang coordination ng teachers with the EAP, Ron.
06:55Ayon kinaboransing at Panopio, kabilang ang DepEd sa pagplano at pagpili ng lugar sa mga Youth Leadership Summit na isinagawa
07:03noon para raw magrekomenda ng eskwelahan,
07:06lalo ng karamihan sa mga participant ito ay mga estudyante.
07:10Bukas sa katakdang sumalang bilang testigo si Defense Attorney Michael Poa, na dating Chief of Staff ng DepEd,
07:16na lumalabas ang at pahingi ng certification mula sa AFP.
07:20Ako si Joseph Morong, ang inyong saksi.
07:25Ako si Joseph Morong, ang inyong saksi.
