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Christian Gonzalez returned to Patriots practice today, while the team traded Kayshon Boutte to the Houston Texans. The guys discuss the latest from the Patriots camp.
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00:00it's been an interesting day for the patriots i'm kind of upset to be quite honest i was rooting
00:03for kayshaun booty i i was hoping that he would make this team i understand the reality though
00:08and it's actually a good reality to have kind of a fan favorite at this point wouldn't you say
00:13yes i mean for a guy who's not he not that consequential like i get what ted is saying
00:18people would do overrate booty however he's just he's handled this kind of well and he's just a
00:24bit i i'm impressed with a six-round pick and what he's delivered you know we've seen a lot worse
00:28he did everything he could do to stay on this team he uh said all the right things he played
00:32his ass off there were a lot of different practices where he was the best one out there you know
00:36it's
00:36weird because now that he's gone there's a whole lot of clips going around from last season dude
00:41had some unbelievable highlight reel plays like he he became somewhat prolific i mean it's not like he
00:48was just a guy who every once in a while would do well like kayshaun booty became almost a comfort
00:52blanket for a while for drake may which is one of the reasons i thought he was fairly valuable here
00:57and you know ted said it best the texans needed somebody like their guys out for the season with
01:04a torn acl i believe it was so the the patriots were in a position of power and that's why
01:08it was
01:09so shocking that all they got back was a dude who was drafted in the sixth round uh jalen reed
01:17who's a
01:17safety 23 years old he's entering his second season didn't play that much last year and a 2028
01:22seventh round pick which is almost nothing i mean it's just it's basically a swap of former six-round
01:27picks who both went at the same exact slot pick 187 but again it's variable maybe choosing defense
01:34over offense or maybe you think there's something behind the scenes i do wonder if like booty put on
01:39a pretty good face to the media but was he grouchy you know just is drake getting tired of him
01:43or are some of the other guys more endearing like does he love kyle williams and chisholm and it was
01:49just you got to get rid of him you know there was no choice i mean this seems like a
01:52gotta get rid of
01:53him type of deal although i've seen zero indication there's been not even anybody saying anything right
01:59nothing vrabel has said nothing any of the players have said nothing he's done on the field indicates
02:03that but man it just isn't it funny how like for the past like six months we've had these impressions
02:09of what somebody's worth and then it ends up being worth crap i mean the jalen brown thing it's like
02:14what
02:14you got paul george and the keishon booty thing listen this it's obviously two different worlds
02:19but i mean i thought they would at least get like a fourth round pick for this or actually which
02:23is
02:23more shot when you put it that way because because we thought you're right about paul george had to be
02:27packaged with a first yes so you got you traded jalen brown for a first round pick is that more
02:33shocking than getting i mean what what do we think third round pick for booty oh yeah yeah i thought
02:38we
02:38thought it's definitely jalen brown i mean jalen brown was an mvp candidate i mean he was somebody that
02:43you know helped he had just won a championship this guy is i mean top 20 player in the nba
02:49and you got paul effing george and which which as we were saying usually had to be packaged
02:54with you had to give the team like they have they would have to have given the sixers a pick
02:58along
02:58with paul george a first rounder just for you to take on that contract right so that yeah that's
03:04worse but it is funny though when you step back we think we know everything you think you know the
03:08market you think you can judge it you can look around and see what someone's value is and then in
03:11reality it ain't worth anything and that's exactly what happened with with kashon booty unless you're
03:17trading adley rushman then you get a hall then you get a red socks hall of prospects right right
03:21right worth every single asset it's been okay he's he he could step it up a little bit for my
03:28liking as
03:29well but he's been fine you know yeah coming back from injury i will give him a little bit of
03:32grace
03:33give him a little bit of grace so you know we we will see with adley it would be nice
03:37if things
03:37panned out with that on top of that other news with the patriots is that it was the return of
03:41christian gonzalez to the field and that's interesting because you know you you you're
03:46wondering whether or not it's because there's any kind of advancement in the talks or just because
03:51the group practices like the the uh the practices other teams are over with and that this is like
03:56one of the first times he could come back and be in a place where he feels safe because mike
04:00vrabel would kick the ass of anybody that breathes on him wrong and to me i thought that this is
04:05him
04:06trying to show not only the team but fans as well that hey guys i'm a team player here i'm
04:12doing
04:12whatever i can to come out here and and and show you that i really want to be a member
04:17of the patriots
04:18but i'm protecting my ass too i don't want to i don't want to get injured while i'm in the
04:22middle
04:22of this negotiation so if it comes to me going up against the eagles and these guys you want to
04:26try
04:26to make a name by roughing me up i am out until we get this thing signed and he's still
04:32and i wonder if
04:33the patriots were fine with that like do you think he came to vrabel just not a like a former
04:36player
04:37level and said look i'm gonna play this year no matter what happens and i'm gonna practice but i
04:42it's too it's too you're asking me too much to go up against other teams in these joint practices
04:46and vrabel said all right you know agreed sit out we'll come up with an injury like that seems
04:51plausible to me you know that mike mike would agree with that it's okay to a point when you said
04:55he
04:56would come up to them and say i'm gonna play no matter what i i i think that's not in
05:00any universe
05:01what he said i think that that is his that is his value that is his power right now is
05:06that he can
05:06sit out sort of but he has to play at some point otherwise we get fined and won't collect a
05:10dollar
05:10sure but i mean players have done this before players have sat out i mean lady on bells i think
05:16was the last one to do it and it didn't work out so well um he started a rap career
05:20and a bad mma
05:21career but i mean i guess yeah it's your yeah you some guys have chosen to go the 10-week
05:26route or
05:27whatever it is yeah and and i i don't see this happening i think that they're going to get to
05:31a point before the season starts where he ends up you know becoming the highest paid corner i don't
05:36think he's going to be the highest paid defensive player in the league like there's some you know
05:40kind of rumors as i said i just believe that that's where the agent started and then they
05:44would negotiate it down to being the highest paid paid at his position i i i don't read too much
05:49into
05:49him being out there it just seems like he's not it seems like he's trying to almost like just show
05:55them and show his teammates i want to be out here with you guys and i think it's a good
05:59move for
05:59him as you know just stay the hell away from anything competitive and do not get injured because
06:04look around the preseason there's dudes getting injured all over the place and that sucks and you
06:08do not want to in the middle of this moment where you could turn what two million dollars into 34
06:12million a year you do not need to go f and you know effing up your body and and jeopardizing
06:17that
06:18now it is interesting gonzalez posted on social media today about the booty trade
06:24kayshawn had a post on there and he sort of subbed uh on instagram said go do what you do
06:29fam
06:31100 so that was the whitest thing i've ever heard said okay well i'm just trying to be accurate to
06:35what it was said you know go do what you do fam 100 so he's he's supporting a guy who
06:42had some
06:43issues with the team right you do you take that as like solidarity with a guy who's not seeing eye
06:48eye with patriots front office sort of no no no no that's i think that that's just a guy
06:52saying hey dude good luck to you you were a friend of mine that i'm not reading anything into that
06:57that's not now should i read into when he posts a song that says
07:04which somebody figured out said it should have been done by now right right that's a clear sign
07:09apparently it's not like drake was getting waterboarded or something when he played that
07:13i could understand a word whatever like filter that thing was going to
07:19well we'll get to talk to marcus jones tomorrow and uh and also tommy devito and some of the
07:24players that did speak today after practice just gave an attaboy to gonzalez like he's handled this
07:29as good as i could possibly imagine you know that sort of thing to paraphrase and he has he's well
07:34liked i think he's well liked around there as a matter of fact i mean everything we've heard from
07:37from all the players and everything we've even heard from you know uh the coaches they all love them
07:43and it's not like in a robert craft we love coaching a uh type of way where it's like a
07:48negotiation technique in public yeah like these guys true and they know also that they're better
07:53with him and the team is much better and they need them to your point you know you and ted
07:57have
07:57been talking about different from seattle you need gonzalez more here because of the front front seven
08:01and the lack of i'm sure every member of this defense knows they need him out there especially for
08:07week one yeah and there's there's no question but we shall see i mean and his value is so much
08:12more
08:13than that of devon witherspoon too because witherspoon's part of this machine that's over
08:17there in seattle i mean you know he's just a part of that machine whereas the drop in the drop
08:23in
08:23effectiveness of that defense without christian gonzalez as a matter of fact i think pro football focus
08:29just named their secondary the patriots the best in football i believe is that right did you have
08:38when christian gonzalez plays but yes yes yep christian gonzalez has to play and that's another
08:44thing that you look at them and you i mean i'm sure that his agents got all these numbers and
08:48i'm sure
08:48he's got all that i mean so they're the number one secondary in all of football uh he's the highest
08:54rated on madden which i know you don't think means a lot but it means a lot to these guys
08:59and i also think
09:00it means a lot to teams because it means they're more marketable when you are number one in madden that's
09:05a
09:05big deal because of all the people who buy that video game and know at each position who the guy
09:11at the top is so you know who's pretty good in madden too who's that kashaun booty uh what is
09:16his uh
09:16number do you know i think it's like 87 or something like that but i used uh i played madden
09:21for the
09:21first time the other day for like years and uh yeah kashaun booty was badass 87 sounds about right
09:27almost better than brown hmm mark daniels by the way all these pats reporters have to do something
09:33while they're out there watching practice and grass grow but he charted every pass that drake
09:37bay has thrown in 21 days of training camp booty caught 18 passes fifth most on the team so drake
09:43had a little connection with him and they're keeping the guy kyle williams who had two catches
09:47from drake so far yep so i wonder what drake thinks about it when you put it that way well
09:51i mean we'll
09:52i'm sure we'll find out soon you know i just i'm i'm definitely i'm definitely personally upset because i
09:58thought that i was rooting i was rooting for the guy i love when you hear stories like that where
10:02there's a guy
10:02who's on the fringe who just kills it in camp and does everything he can to to stay a part
10:07of this
10:07team says all the right things you know shows up to work plays his ass off i love that kind
10:13of story
10:13and unfortunately and then immediately gets traded it's a little ironic too because this is the day
10:17after the in the days after uh the coach said we don't have a lot of depth and then they
10:22just traded
10:22their position of most depth on the team yeah because if anybody gets hurt now you will be putting a
10:28lot
10:28of pressure on kyle williams to deliver and that's the one thing we have seen you know booty's at least
10:33a proven product a little bit yeah um so i think yeah we put a poll up and it's kind
10:38of mixed about
10:38about 50 percent said fair trade and about 50 percent said it sucks
10:41you
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