00:00We have a prosecution called impeachment trial
00:03by the OVP Special Dispersing Officer Gina Acosta
00:08by Colonel Raymond Lachica.
00:10Ayan po sa isang legal expert,
00:11dapat ito gawin
00:12para magkaroon ng paglilinaw
00:14sa kung saan ginastos
00:15ang confidential funds ng OVP.
00:18Narito ang aking report.
00:21Kasunod ng paulit-ulit na pagsulpot
00:24ng pangalan ni Colonel Raymond Dante Lachica
00:26sa testimonyo ni Gina Acosta,
00:28dating Special Dispersing Officer
00:30na Office of the Vice President,
00:32inusisan ng presiding officer
00:33kung bakit hindi kasama sila Chica
00:35sa mga susunod na ipapatawag na testigo
00:37ng prosekusyon.
00:38I think you cannot ignore the fact
00:41that the witness has been naming
00:42one specific colonel
00:45for the whole afternoon and this morning.
00:47Out of curiosity, although we cannot compel you,
00:50counsel, at some point,
00:52do we expect that to happen?
00:54We will have to revisit the lease
00:56to come up with our final decision
00:58as to who will be presented
01:00before this impeachment court, Your Honor.
01:02But again, you cannot deny the fact
01:03that Colonel Lachica was starring
01:06in the testimony of...
01:08We confirmed that, Your Honor.
01:10Dapat nga bang ipatawag
01:11ng Senate impeachment court
01:12si Lachica?
01:13Sabi ni Attorney Michael Tu,
01:15Assistant Professor ng UP College of Law,
01:17sa parayan ko sa kanya kanina,
01:19oo.
01:19Sa tingin ko, para malinawan tayo
01:22kung paano talaga nagastos
01:24yung pera na yun.
01:25Hindi man kung paano nagastos.
01:27Kung meron mang ebidensya
01:29na kung saan nga napunta ang pera
01:31ay kailangan natin marinig
01:34at matanong si Colonel Lachica.
01:36Kabuang kalahating billion pisong cash
01:38ang ibinigay raw ni Acosta
01:39kahit hindi sakop si Lachica
01:41ng fidelity bond.
01:42Ang accountable officer
01:44in this case,
01:45tulad ni
01:45ah,
01:47ni Ginang Acosta,
01:48no,
01:49ang, ah,
01:50magpupose ng fidelity bond.
01:52Ma-assure tayo
01:53na talagang meron kang
01:54panghahawakan
01:55yung gobyerno
01:56na mag-iingat ka
01:57sa pera mo na yan
01:58kasi ikaw mismo
01:59nagbigay ka ng pera mo
02:01ah,
02:01na maaaring mawala sayo.
02:03Para kay Q,
02:04nakapagtataka
02:05ang sinabi ni Acosta
02:06na nagtiwala lang siya
02:08kay Lachica.
02:08Kasi,
02:09para saan pa
02:10na naging accountable officer
02:12ka,
02:13ah,
02:14kung hindi,
02:14hindi ka rin naman
02:16mapapanagot,
02:16hindi ka naman
02:17makakasagot
02:17doon sa mga tanong
02:19na dapat ay nasasagot
02:20ng accountable officer.
02:21Ikaw nga
02:22ang accountable officer,
02:23hindi ko alam
02:24kung ang tugon dito
02:25ay kailangan
02:26amyandahan ng ating batas
02:27para mas mahigpit.
02:29Pero dito sa
02:30paglilitis na ito,
02:31hindi rin tayo
02:32nalilinawan
02:33kung paano nga
02:35nangyayari
02:35yung certification
02:36na ito.
02:37Kanina nabanggit niya
02:38na meron naman daw silang
02:39internal document eh
02:40na naibigay naman niya
02:41yung pera
02:42kay Col. La Chica
02:44na tinanggap niya
02:45Col. La Chica
02:45yung 125 million
02:47at one point
02:47and the other
02:48different amounts.
02:49May
02:50implication ba ito?
02:51Limitado sa paninaw ko
02:53yung value ng document
02:54na yan.
02:55Kasi ang punto pa rin
02:56na gusto nating malaman
02:57ay paano ba ginastos
02:59yung pera?
03:01Naaayon ba
03:01sa joint circular
03:02o sa dapat
03:03paggamitan ng
03:04confidential funds?
03:06Bukas,
03:06nakatagdang sumalang
03:07bilang testigo
03:08ng prosekusyon
03:08ang assistant chief of staff
03:10ng OVP
03:10na si Lamuel Ortonio.
03:13Pinapasabina na rin
03:14ng korte
03:14ang tatlong retired
03:15at kasalukuyang
03:16mga opisyal ng armed forces
03:17of the Philippines
03:17kagmay sa confidential funds
03:19ng OVP.
03:20Hindi kasama si Col. La Chica
03:22at kay Council for the Prosecutors
03:24Atty. Lorna Capunan
03:25hindi naman ito dahil
03:26sa nag-aalangan silang
03:27ipatawag si La Chica.
03:29There is no hesitation.
03:30It's just not very evaluating
03:33because we have 27 witnesses.
03:35Yung tatlo namang
03:36army officers
03:37it's because
03:38may certification
03:40they certified
03:41the certification
03:44that confidential funds
03:45was used.
03:46We're not saying
03:47that La Chica
03:47is not important
03:49or that
03:50we will dispense
03:51with them.
03:51I'm just saying
03:52that the subject
03:53is serious consideration.
03:54Natanong din
03:55ang depensa
03:56kung gagamitin nila si La Chica
03:58para pasubalian
03:59naman nabanggit
03:59sa trial.
04:00Hindi pa namin po
04:03ibubunyag
04:03kung ano yung gagawin natin.
04:05I really beg
04:06for your indulgence
04:06and your understanding
04:07but we really don't want
04:08to telegraph our witnesses.
04:10They're not ready
04:10to disclose yet
04:11if and when
04:12lalabas
04:13isasama nila
04:14sa listahan nila
04:16si Colonel La Chica.
04:17So, hintayin na lang po
04:18siguro natin
04:19instead of
04:20saying they're hesitant
04:21or not.
04:21I don't want to really conclude
04:23anything at this point.
04:27But I'll be right back.
04:30I'll be right back.
04:31.
04:32.
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