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VIDEO TOPICS/TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 The Curious Beginner
2:18 The Online Grinder
5:58 The Live Casino Player
8:28 The Tournament Player
11:45 The High Stakes Regular
14:09 The Sponsored Pro
16:10 The High Roller
18:45 The Business
20:57 The Hall Of Famer
22:58 The Legend
Every episode takes a lot of research and writing. Drop your next video idea in the comments. I read them all.
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VIDEO TOPICS/TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 The Curious Beginner
2:18 The Online Grinder
5:58 The Live Casino Player
8:28 The Tournament Player
11:45 The High Stakes Regular
14:09 The Sponsored Pro
16:10 The High Roller
18:45 The Business
20:57 The Hall Of Famer
22:58 The Legend
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00:00Level 1. The Curious Beginner.
00:02You are 22 years old.
00:04You are sitting in your bedroom at your parents' house.
00:07You have a laptop on your desk.
00:09You have $500 in a checking account.
00:13You have a vague feeling that your life is going nowhere.
00:16You dropped out of community college last semester.
00:19You work part-time at a warehouse loading boxes onto trucks.
00:23You hate it.
00:25Your friend showed you a video last week about a guy who won $80,000 playing online poker in a
00:31single weekend.
00:32You watched that video 14 times.
00:35You can't stop thinking about it.
00:38You deposit $100 into an online poker site.
00:42You sit down at a $2 table.
00:45You lose the whole deposit in 45 minutes.
00:48Your hands are shaking.
00:50Your heart is pounding.
00:52You deposit another $100.
00:54You lose that, too.
00:57You deposit the last $200 you have in your account.
01:01You win $80.
01:03You feel something light up in your chest that you have never felt before at the warehouse.
01:08You cash out the $280.
01:11You buy a book about poker strategy.
01:13You read it in two days.
01:15You download a free training video series from a famous pro.
01:19You watch the whole series in a week.
01:22You start playing micro-stakes online.
01:25Two cents and five cents a hand.
01:28You grind eight hours a day on your days off.
01:31You study your sessions afterward.
01:33You watch replays of every hand you lost.
01:37You learn about pot odds.
01:39You learn about position.
01:41You learn about ranges and equity and hand-reading.
01:44Your friends don't understand.
01:47Your parents don't understand.
01:49Your mom thinks you have a problem.
01:51Your dad thinks you need to get a real job.
01:55You try to explain that you're not gambling.
01:57You're studying a game.
01:59You are trying to become a professional.
02:02They nod and smile the way people do when they don't believe what they're hearing.
02:07You don't care.
02:08Something has clicked inside you.
02:11You know this is what you are going to do with your life.
02:14You have no idea what that actually means yet.
02:17Level two.
02:18The online grinder.
02:20You were 24 years old.
02:22You moved out of your parents' house six months ago.
02:25You rent a one-bedroom apartment in a cheap part of town.
02:28You have two monitors on a desk in the living room.
02:31That desk is your office.
02:33The rest of the apartment barely exists to you.
02:36You grind online poker 10 hours a day.
02:39Sometimes 12.
02:40Sometimes 14 on the weekends when the recreational players are drunk and loose.
02:45You play multiple tables at once.
02:47Four tables.
02:48Eight tables.
02:49Sometimes 12 tables simultaneously on the monitors.
02:53You have trained your brain to process decisions across all of them.
02:56Fold here.
02:58Raise there.
02:59Call down with top pair on the other table.
03:02Bluff the river on the fifth table.
03:04You are a machine.
03:06The money is real.
03:08You have made $14,000 so far this year.
03:11That's more than the warehouse paid.
03:13It's also a lot less than you thought you'd be making by now.
03:17You have variance.
03:19That word has become central to your life.
03:22Variance is the difference between how you should be doing based on probability and how
03:26you are actually doing.
03:28Variance means you can play perfectly for 40,000 hands and still be down money.
03:34Variance means you can play badly and still win.
03:37It is the cruelest and most essential concept in the game.
03:41You track every session in a spreadsheet.
03:43You know your win rate down to the decimal.
03:46You know your hourly rate.
03:48You know your variance by stake level.
03:51You know which opponents at which sites are profitable and which ones aren't worth your
03:55time.
03:57You have built a database of the players at your stakes.
03:59You know their tendencies.
04:01You know who bluffs too much.
04:03You know who never folds a pocket pair.
04:06Your social life has collapsed.
04:08Your girlfriend left four months ago.
04:10She said she couldn't compete with a laptop.
04:13You didn't argue with her because she was right.
04:16You eat delivery food every night.
04:19You haven't cooked in months.
04:21You have gained 20 pounds.
04:23Your back hurts constantly.
04:25Your eyes burn by the end of every session.
04:28You have a bottle of eyedrops on the desk.
04:30You use it a dozen times a day.
04:33But the money is growing.
04:35Your bankroll is at $22,000 now.
04:39You are moving up in stakes.
04:41You are beating every limit you play.
04:43You feel like you are about to break through into something bigger.
04:47You talk to other online grinders and private chat rooms.
04:50These are your colleagues now.
04:52You have never met any of them in person.
04:54You know their screen names.
04:56You know their playing styles.
04:58You share strategy notes.
05:00You swap hand histories.
05:01You argue about whether three-betting light from the small blind is profitable at your limit.
05:06These conversations are the closest thing you have to friendship right now.
05:11You get tilted sometimes.
05:13Tilt is when your emotions override your strategy.
05:16You lose a big pot to a player who chased a gutshot straight draw and hit on the river.
05:21You feel the rage build in your chest.
05:24You want to start playing every hand to get your money back.
05:27You want to raise with garbage just to punish the universe.
05:31You learn to recognize this feeling.
05:33You learn to close the tables when it happens.
05:36You walk around your apartment.
05:37You do push-ups.
05:39You wait for the feeling to pass.
05:41The players who cannot control tilt do not survive.
05:45You have seen them on the forums.
05:47They blow through bankrolls in a week.
05:50They rage quit the game.
05:52They post angry screenshots.
05:54You vow to never become one of them.
05:58Level 3.
05:59The live casino player.
06:01You are 26 years old.
06:03You have $60,000 in your bankroll.
06:05You have decided to make the jump to live poker.
06:09Casino poker.
06:10Real chips.
06:11Real cards.
06:12Real people sitting across from you with faces you can actually read.
06:16The online grind was paying the bills, but it was killing your soul.
06:20You drive to a casino an hour from your apartment.
06:23You walk past the slot machines and the blackjack pit.
06:26The air smells like cigarettes and floor polish and desperation.
06:31You sit down at a $2 and $5 no-limit hold'em table.
06:35You buy in for $500.
06:37Your hands are shaking the first time you touch the chips.
06:40You haven't felt that in years.
06:42Live poker is a different game.
06:44The pace is slower.
06:46You play 30 hands an hour instead of 600.
06:49You have to fold over and over again.
06:52The cards are cold, and the old man to your right is a rock who only plays premium hands.
06:57You watch.
06:58You listen.
07:00You study the players at your table.
07:02The guy in the Hawaiian shirt is a tourist from out of state.
07:05He is drunk and playing every hand.
07:07He is your target.
07:09The young guy in the hoodie is another pro like you.
07:12He is not your target.
07:14You avoid pots with him.
07:16The woman with the sunglasses is a regular.
07:18She plays tight.
07:20She bluffs rarely.
07:21When she raises, you fold unless you have something real.
07:24You learn to read faces.
07:26You learn to watch hands.
07:28Does the guy's hand shake when he puts in a big bet?
07:31That's strength, not weakness.
07:33Nervous movements come from real hands.
07:36Calm confidence often means a bluff.
07:38You learn about timing tells.
07:40You learn about the way people stack their chips.
07:43The way they protect their cards.
07:45The way they look at the board after the flop comes.
07:47Every tiny detail is information.
07:50Every piece of information is an edge.
07:53You play 50 hours a week in the card room.
07:55You live on caffeine and casino restaurant food.
07:58You eat the same mediocre club sandwich four times a week because the kitchen is right next
08:03to the poker room.
08:04You don't want to leave the table when the game is juicy.
08:06You are making money.
08:09You are up $18,000 after your first three months.
08:12You are starting to get recognized.
08:14Other regulars nod at you.
08:16The floor staff know your name.
08:18You are not famous, but you are becoming a fixture.
08:21You have found a world.
08:22You belong to something.
08:24You have never belonged to anything before.
08:27Level 4, the tournament player.
08:29You are 28 years old.
08:31You have been playing cash games for two years.
08:33You have a bankroll of $140,000.
08:37Cash games pay the bills, but tournaments are where the glory lives.
08:40The big names.
08:42The big scores.
08:43The possibility of winning a million dollars in a single weekend.
08:46You decide to take a shot at the tournament circuit.
08:49You start with smaller events.
08:50$500 buy-ins at regional casinos.
08:53$1,000 buy-ins at bigger venues.
08:55You learn that tournament poker is a completely different beast from cash.
08:59The structure changes everything.
09:01You start with a stack of chips.
09:03The blinds go up every 30 minutes.
09:05You cannot leave.
09:07You cannot rebuy after the early levels.
09:09You must survive and accumulate chips, or you go home with nothing.
09:13The variance is brutal.
09:15You can play perfectly for 10 hours and bust on a bad beat in the final two tables.
09:19You can run deep in 100 tournaments in a row and never make a final table.
09:24You cash in some events.
09:25You go deep in a few.
09:26You make your first final table at a $2,000 buy-in event in Florida.
09:31You finish fifth.
09:32You win $34,000.
09:34You fly home feeling like you have arrived.
09:37Then you go six months without cashing in anything.
09:40You lose $60,000 of your bankroll, chasing the next big score.
09:44You start questioning everything.
09:46You wonder if you are running bad or if you have gone bad.
09:49You wonder if the game has passed you by.
09:51You wonder if the kids playing now, the ones who learned from solvers and GTO software, are better than you.
09:57You hire a coach.
09:59You spend $2,000 on 10 hours of one-on-one sessions with a player who has made final tables
10:04at the World Series.
10:06He tears apart your game.
10:07He shows you leaks you didn't know you had.
10:09He teaches you how to adjust your preflop ranges based on stack depth.
10:14He teaches you ICM, the independent chip model, which governs how chip values change relative to tournament payouts.
10:21Chips in a tournament are not money.
10:23A chip late in a tournament is worth different amounts to different players.
10:27You learn this.
10:28You study it.
10:29Your game improves.
10:30You start cashing again.
10:31You finish third in a $3,500 event in Las Vegas.
10:36You win $112,000.
10:38The variance giveth and the variance taketh away.
10:41You are learning to survive both.
10:43You have also learned something about yourself that surprises you.
10:47You love the tournament grind.
10:48You love the 14-hour days.
10:51You love the mental exhaustion at the end of a level when your brain feels like pudding.
10:55You love the moment when you make the money bubble and you can finally exhale.
10:59You love the feel of a final table with cameras pointing at you.
11:03The nerves are different now.
11:05They are not fear.
11:06They are anticipation.
11:07You are a tournament player in your bones.
11:10You will play cash games for the rest of your life because cash pays the bills.
11:14But tournaments are what you dream about.
11:17Tournaments are why you got into the game in the first place.
11:20You travel to events across the country.
11:22You live out of a suitcase for weeks at a time.
11:25You stay in cheap hotels near the venues to save money on expenses.
11:28You eat at the same airport chain restaurants in every city.
11:32You start to recognize the same faces at every event.
11:35The same regulars.
11:37The same pros you are slowly becoming one of.
11:40They nod at you now.
11:41You nod back.
11:42You are earning your place in the tribe.
11:45Level 5.
11:46The High Stakes Regular
11:48You are 31 years old.
11:50You have rebuilt your bankroll to $400,000.
11:53You have moved to Las Vegas full-time.
11:56You have a small apartment off the Strip.
11:58You don't go to the Strip unless you have to.
12:00The tourists and the bachelor parties are not your world.
12:04Your world is the poker rooms at the local casinos where the regulars play.
12:08The Bellagio.
12:09The Aria.
12:10The Wynn.
12:11You have moved up in stakes.
12:13You now play in the $10 and $25 no-limit cash game.
12:17Buy-ins of $5,000 or more.
12:19The minimum bet is $25.
12:22A single pot can swing $10,000 in a few minutes.
12:26At these stakes, you are no longer playing against tourists.
12:29You are playing against pros, wealthy businessmen who treat poker like a hobby, and the occasional
12:35whale.
12:35The whale has more money than skill and thinks they can beat the professionals.
12:39The whale is the profit engine.
12:42The whale is why you are here.
12:44You and the other regulars have an unspoken understanding.
12:47You don't tangle with each other unnecessarily.
12:50You wait for the whale.
12:51When the whale sits down, everything changes.
12:55The table goes quiet.
12:56Positions get adjusted.
12:58Alliances form silently.
13:00You are all sharks now, circling the one player in the water who doesn't belong.
13:05The whale is a successful tech executive who fell in love with poker after watching it
13:09on TV.
13:10He has $100,000 to burn and a belief that he can beat you.
13:14He cannot.
13:15You take turns extracting money from him politely.
13:18You don't show off.
13:19You don't insult him.
13:21You let him have small wins.
13:22You compliment his play when he makes a decent fold.
13:25You want him to come back tomorrow.
13:27He does come back tomorrow.
13:28He comes back for six months before he finally stops.
13:31By then, he has lost $400,000 spread across you and the other regulars.
13:37He will tell his friends he broke even.
13:39Everyone who plays this game lies about their results.
13:42Your life has a rhythm now.
13:44You play six nights a week.
13:46You sleep during the day.
13:47You work out three mornings a week before you go to bed.
13:50You see other pros at the gym.
13:52You nod.
13:53You don't talk much.
13:54Everyone in this world has secrets, and everyone respects the silence.
13:58You have made your first million dollars by your 31st birthday.
14:02You don't feel rich.
14:03You feel like a person who has a very specific and very strange job.
14:07Level 6.
14:09The Sponsored Pro.
14:10You are 33 years old.
14:12You won a major televised tournament last year.
14:14Not the main event, but a prestigious side event at a World Poker Tour stop.
14:19The final table was broadcast on a streaming platform.
14:22Two million people watched you play.
14:24You made it to heads-up play against a player who had won three previous titles.
14:28You beat him.
14:29You won $840,000 and a trophy and something more valuable than either of those things.
14:36You got attention.
14:37A major online poker site reached out the next week.
14:40They offered you a sponsorship.
14:42You would wear their patch on your shirt at every televised event.
14:45You would stream on their platform once a week.
14:48You would play in their branded tournaments.
14:50In exchange, they would pay you $150,000 a year plus expenses plus a share of referral revenue.
14:57You signed.
14:59You are now a face.
15:01Not a famous face.
15:02Not at the level of the people who win bracelets at the World Series or win $10 million in high
15:07roller events.
15:08But a recognizable face in the poker world.
15:11People ask for photos with you at airports.
15:13Strangers tweet at you.
15:15Some of them are fans.
15:16Some of them are angry players who think you got lucky against them in a hand six years ago.
15:21They want to tell you about it.
15:23You have an agent now.
15:24You have a manager.
15:25You have a social media presence that you do not fully control.
15:29Your image is being shaped by professionals.
15:31You have a clothing brand.
15:33You have a training video series.
15:35You have merchandise with your name on it.
15:37The poker still matters, but it is no longer the only thing that matters.
15:42You travel constantly.
15:43The European Poker Tour, the World Series, the Aussie Millions, the High Roller Series in the Bahamas.
15:50You spend 250 days a year in hotel rooms.
15:53You eat in casino restaurants and order room service.
15:56You forget what your apartment in Vegas looks like for weeks at a time.
16:00The poker has become a lifestyle.
16:03The lifestyle has become the poker.
16:05You are not sure which one you signed up for anymore.
16:08Level 7.
16:10The High Roller.
16:11You are 36 years old.
16:13You have decided to take shots in the highest stakes cash games in the world.
16:17The games that run in private rooms at casinos in Macau, in Los Angeles, in Las Vegas, in London.
16:23The games where the minimum buy-in is $200,000.
16:27A single hand can win or lose more money than most people make in a decade.
16:32You have never been so scared and so alive at the same time.
16:37Your first session, you sit down with $500,000 in front of you.
16:41The players at the table include a hedge fund manager from Hong Kong.
16:44There is a Russian businessman whose source of income is vaguely described.
16:49There is a tech billionaire whose face you have seen on magazine covers.
16:52There are two other pros you know from the tournament circuit.
16:55The blinds are $1,000 and $2,000.
16:59A standard raise is $8,000.
17:01Pots get to $50,000 before the flop.
17:04You have to recalibrate your entire sense of money.
17:07You have to treat these chips like they are nothing.
17:10If you cannot make a correct fold when you have $80,000 in the pot, you will go broke.
17:16If you cannot make a correct 3-bet bluff for $60,000, you will be exploited.
17:21The money has to stop being money inside your head.
17:25You win your first session.
17:27You are up $340,000 when the game breaks at 6 in the morning.
17:32You walk back to your hotel room through a casino that is mostly empty.
17:36You feel like you are floating.
17:38You lose your next three sessions.
17:41You are down $1.1 million in 10 days.
17:45You sit in your hotel room and you shake.
17:48You call your coach.
17:49You call your therapist.
17:51You call your parents.
17:52Your mom asks if you are okay.
17:55You tell her you are okay.
17:57You tell her you are tired.
17:58You tell her you love her.
18:00You don't tell her what you have been doing.
18:03She wouldn't understand.
18:05You are not sure you understand anymore.
18:08The high-stakes world is not just about poker skill.
18:11It is about psychology.
18:13It is about bankroll management.
18:15It is about not letting a bad run break you.
18:18It is about sitting down again tomorrow with the same focus and the same confidence.
18:24Every cell in your body is screaming that you should get up and run.
18:28You sit down again.
18:29You play.
18:31You grind.
18:32You win back $700,000 over the next three weeks.
18:36You are not even.
18:37You are still down.
18:39But you are still in the game.
18:41That is the only thing that matters.
18:43Level 8.
18:45The business.
18:46You are 39 years old.
18:48You have accumulated enough money playing poker that you no longer need to play poker.
18:52You have $6 million in investments.
18:55You have a house in Las Vegas and an apartment in Los Angeles.
18:59You have a car you never drive and a watch collection you never wear.
19:02You have realized something.
19:05The real money in poker is no longer at the table.
19:08The real money is in the ecosystem around the table.
19:11You start a training site.
19:13You partner with three other pros.
19:15You build a library of courses.
19:18Tournament strategy.
19:19Cash game strategy.
19:21Mental game.
19:21Bankroll management.
19:23Game selection.
19:24You charge $500 a month for premium access.
19:28You have 8,000 subscribers within the first year.
19:31You are making $4 million a year from the training site alone.
19:35You have writers and editors and video producers and coders working for you.
19:40You are running a company.
19:42You start a podcast.
19:43You interview other pros.
19:45You interview poker authors.
19:47You interview people from outside the poker world whose work applies to what poker players need.
19:52Decision scientists.
19:54Behavioral economists.
19:55Professional athletes.
19:57The podcast has hundreds of thousands of downloads per episode.
20:01You start a staking business.
20:03You identify young players with talent and no bankroll.
20:06You put up their buy-ins for tournaments.
20:08They play the events.
20:10You take 50% of the winnings.
20:12You have a stable of 20 players you are staking at any given time.
20:16Some of them are your biggest returns.
20:18Some of them never cash.
20:20The math works out across the portfolio.
20:23You are a venture capitalist now.
20:25You are a media executive.
20:26You are a coach and a content creator and a manager.
20:30You still play poker, but you play less.
20:33You play when you want to.
20:34You play the biggest games when you feel like it.
20:37You play charity events for attention.
20:39You play invitation-only high rollers where the field is small and the prize pool is enormous.
20:44The game is no longer your livelihood.
20:47The game is your hobby.
20:49The game is your brand.
20:50The game is the story you tell about yourself in a hundred podcast interviews.
20:55Level 9.
20:56The Hall of Famer
20:57You are 47 years old.
21:00You were inducted into the Poker Hall of Fame last year.
21:03You were one of the youngest people ever inducted.
21:06The ceremony was in Las Vegas during the World Series.
21:09Your parents flew out for it.
21:10Your mom cried.
21:12Your dad shook your hand and told you he was proud of you.
21:15He said those words for the first time in 47 years.
21:18You tried not to cry in front of him.
21:21You are a statesman of the game now.
21:23When the industry has questions about the direction poker is heading, your opinion is sought.
21:28When a new format is proposed, you are consulted.
21:31When a regulatory body is considering rules for online poker legalization, your name is on the witness list.
21:37You sit on boards.
21:39You advise companies.
21:40You speak at conferences about the intersection of probability and decision making.
21:44You have written a book about your life in poker.
21:47It sold 300,000 copies.
21:49It is being optioned for a documentary.
21:52You still play, but mostly for nostalgia now.
21:55You show up at the World Series every summer.
21:57You play a few of the big events.
21:59You play a cash session or two at the Bellagio just to remind yourself what it feels like.
22:04The young players at the table call you sir.
22:07Some of them grew up watching you on television.
22:09Some of them learned the game from your training site.
22:12They are intimidated by you in a way that makes you uncomfortable.
22:15You want to tell them you were just a guy who got obsessed with a card game 25 years ago.
22:19You never stopped.
22:21You don't tell them that.
22:23You smile.
22:24You fold.
22:25You bluff.
22:26You take their money sometimes.
22:28They take your money sometimes.
22:30The game continues.
22:31You were richer than you ever thought you would be.
22:34You were more alone than you expected.
22:36You never got married.
22:38You never had kids.
22:39The game was always there.
22:41Always waiting.
22:42Always calling you back.
22:44You made a choice a long time ago without realizing it was a choice.
22:48You traded one kind of life for another.
22:51Some nights, you wonder about the life you didn't live.
22:54Most nights, you do not.
22:56Level 10.
22:57The Legend.
22:58You are 64 years old.
23:00Your name is said with reverence.
23:03Players who were not born when you won your first bracelet still know who you are.
23:08Documentaries have been made about you.
23:09Books have been written about you.
23:11A few of them you agreed to participate in.
23:13Most of them you did not.
23:15The poker world has changed around you three times.
23:18You have survived every change.
23:20You have more money than you know what to do with.
23:23You have given most of it away.
23:25You fund scholarships at your old high school.
23:27You built a wing on the children's hospital in the city where you were born.
23:31You have a foundation in your name.
23:33You live quietly now.
23:34Your house in Las Vegas is large and silent.
23:37You wake up early.
23:38You drink coffee on the patio and watch the sunrise over the mountains.
23:42You read history books and biographies and the occasional novel.
23:46The old sharpness is still there, but it is softened.
23:49Your body has slowed.
23:51Your hands ache on cold mornings from decades of shuffling chips.
23:54Your eyes are not what they were.
23:57You still play.
23:58You still win more than you lose.
24:00But the hunger is different now.
24:02The hunger used to be about proving something to the world.
24:04Now it is about remembering who you used to be.
24:07You play in a weekly private game with six other old pros.
24:10They are the last of a generation.
24:12Every year, there are fewer of you.
24:14Last month, one of them died.
24:16Heart attack at 71.
24:18You flew to his funeral.
24:20You saw men you have not seen in decades.
24:22You shook hands.
24:24You told stories.
24:25You laughed about hands from tournaments in the 1990s that nobody else would remember.
24:30At the gravesite, you felt the weight of everything.
24:32All the years.
24:33All the hands.
24:35All the money won and lost and won again.
24:37All the relationships that were made and broken around a table covered in green felt.
24:42You think about your legacy sometimes.
24:44You wonder what it will mean when you are gone.
24:46You wonder if the game will remember you.
24:48You suspect it will not.
24:50Not really.
24:51Not for long.
24:52Games move on.
24:53Players come and go.
24:55Legends fade into footnotes.
24:57You make peace with that.
24:58You made peace with it years ago.
25:00Somewhere right now, a 22-year-old is sitting in his parents' house.
25:03He has watched a video of someone winning $80,000 playing online poker.
25:08He cannot stop thinking about it.
25:10He is about to deposit $100 on a site he has never used before.
25:14He has no idea what he is about to sign up for.
25:17The sleepless nights.
25:19The broken relationships.
25:20The thousands of hands of study.
25:22The variants that will nearly destroy him and then lift him higher than he dreamed.
25:27He will walk the same road you walked.
25:29He will make the same mistakes.
25:31He will learn the same lessons.
25:32Maybe he will make it to the top.
25:35Probably he will not.
25:36But he will try.
25:38They always try.
25:39The cycle continues.
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