00:00My name is Josh Partridge and I am a sports journalist at The Examiner.
00:04I'm here with Perth footballer Josiah Burling and the two of us have a pretty unique thing in common.
00:11Our mothers both passed away on the same day, August 14, 2021, and coming up is the five-year anniversary
00:20to that day.
00:22So we're going to chat here today about, I suppose, how grief has affected our lives and how it's kind
00:28of changed it.
00:29So I suppose straight away, mate, how has grief changed who you are over these last five years?
00:35Well, as a young 18-year-old male, you know, when you get put in the hot seat like that,
00:40you've got to grow up pretty quick.
00:41So, you know, it was all very fresh to that sort of raw emotion.
00:49And, you know, when something's so permanent, something that seems so permanent gets swept away from under your feet like
00:57that, you know,
00:58you realise pretty quickly that nothing's ever granted in life.
01:01And, you know, take those as they come, cherish the people that are around you.
01:05And, yeah, so, you know, my five years, you know, I've come a long way, I feel, as a person.
01:13And I've been able to educate myself on, you know, how to, you know, emotionally conduct myself in a manner
01:21that, you know,
01:23allows me to, you know, get a sense of fresh air every now and then.
01:31Yeah.
01:31Yeah, and I think I'm pretty similar too, mate, in that you get pretty sentimental once you lose something
01:37and someone that's happened, that's had so much in your life.
01:40Like, I think I'd like to say that I...
01:44Yeah.
01:44It's one thing that helped me massively and it's still for you.
01:48But, look, on the other...
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