00:00but it is a remarkable place and I can't imagine filming a movie there because it's so
00:04uh compact and the streets are so small and the traffic is is minimal really isn't it
00:10yes but you make that into a benefit you know that's what you do you make that as part of
00:15the
00:15story that the streets you can't move for other traffic you know people having to back up that
00:20high street you know you make that part of the part of the narrative if you like um uh and
00:26but
00:26yes we film we try not to film here during summer holidays or in fact any holidays just during term
00:33times so that helps a lot um in the second film we arrived here and we arrived here amazingly film
00:42crews were treated as essential workers i find that um uh we arrived here during lockdown so we were
00:49filming when it was emptier than it had been probably since 1850. so there was nobody here
00:56during lockdown um and uh uh which was odd because i'd only ever been here when it's rammed with
01:02tourists there's some interesting things going on in the film about the price of popularity isn't
01:08there both for the band but also for cornwall as well there's a line in there about house prices and
01:13things like that and there's it's very much looks into that idea of success is a double-edged sword
01:19isn't it and it can be brilliant and of course is something that a lot of us want but there
01:23can also
01:24be a downside and i suppose with cornwall the downside is the influx of tourists and taking
01:29over the place yeah i think so you know it's difficult is it i i understand there is a dichotomy
01:35between those two things um it's very hard to put the genie back in the bottle and then that's a
01:41big
01:41thing is that once kind of you know it started with saving grace which the film that happened and
01:47then i think doc martin was in saving grace and then they came out of that and built a series
01:52around
01:53him and then and then with us well then with the fisherman's friends and you know then with us
01:59yeah it's very hard and i suspect that there is you know there is some level of different levels of
02:07opinion within the the you know the village town whatever you know somewhere between a village and a
02:11town isn't it but i'm sure there are different levels of opinion within the community here as
02:17to how useful it is it's it's very hard i think specifically for cornwall um as well it's it's hard
02:22for cornwall because cornwall is a is i think still the poorest county in england uh uh and also the
02:29fact that you know people come and they've got to make their money at one time of the year or
02:32you know
02:33only a few weeks of the year to survive the rest of the year but it's yes i can imagine
02:39living here is
02:39is pretty tricky if you're not making mint out of the out of the reputation it would piss you off
02:49and it's uh if people want the jokes they want the songs obviously that's all in this sequel it's
02:54all there but what i liked about it is there is a bit of grit as well isn't this especially
02:58with jim's
02:59character because he is he's he's troubled in this film yes he is he uh yeah yeah i think
03:05but i was i i was asked to be an executive producer on the film really early on and then
03:11we talked about some of the themes that we wanted to deal with and we started talking about what about
03:15jim and how's he feeling about his dad well jim is not going to be the kind of bloke that
03:19talks
03:20about it so i thought okay well that there's a lot of drama in that isn't there because you men
03:27it's this bricks and they don't uh they don't talk about them and then the people who receive
03:32that on the receiving end of that are often their friends or in this case their bandmates his band
03:37mates or he's self-medicating with alcohol because he's trying not to feel those things his family
03:44his his granddaughter you know all the kinds of things that get affected by that trauma and it's
03:51only when he starts talking and actually articulating feelings about it that uh that he uh that things
03:59start to lift and he start because you know there's nothing no better phrase than a problem shared no
04:04there's a problem halved um there's great there's a great line in king lear in shakespeare's king lear
04:11where edgar watching his blinded father on a cliff top he says it's the worst thing he's ever seen and
04:17then he says um except the worst is not as long as you can say this is the worst so
04:26as long as you can
04:27articulate your feelings about something then and actually speak use language to speak about them
04:34then you then you kind of on the way to of that that that burden is lifts off your shoulders
04:42so yes there is there is an element of that running through the middle of the film and uh you
04:47know and
04:48i think i i like his journey in the film we were very mindful when we were shooting it as
04:52well we were
04:52shooting it during the pandemic that so many people in this country had lost people and one of the great
04:58things that you can do with drama is you can make people feel less alone you know i've seen that
05:04so
05:04often i've been doing this job 35 years now and there are times when you've been on stage where or
05:09when you're in a film and you're expressing or articulating something that that audience is going
05:14through or people it's some members of that audience going through you feel people go i thought i was
05:20feeling that alone but i'm not alone other people feel these things and and that is one of the great
05:27thing you know drama is such a good social glue like that and it has such a good social purpose
05:34you know it's an obvious thing to say obviously i understand that but sometimes it's not often said
05:38it's not said often enough in many ways um and of course the band the dynamic changes when they have
05:46success when they have that top 10 album when they go on tour have you had moments i mean it
05:51probably
05:52off the top of my head i'm probably thinking when you got the role of mark anthony actually wrote
05:57when you're catapulted to a different level and it does change you it does affect you you have to be
06:03aware of that i would have thought as someone in the spotlight but fame can affect family and fame can
06:08affect dynamics i mean certainly can affect family and and not always in good ways um you know the
06:15the privacy you know i've been doing this job long enough to realize now that you know it it ebbs
06:20and
06:21flows depending on where where you are in your career and you might choose something that is enormously
06:27popular well i was doing a show in new york the following and it was being watched by 19 million
06:33people
06:33a week in america i mean figures that you just you know i i i can only remember from morgan
06:38white
06:39christmas specials you know but you know it's america so the people a lot of people are watching
06:44it and that had a bigger profound effect that was the much bigger effect actually than than rome because
06:49it was at on me every single day when i was leaving the apartment you know people would recognize
06:54it and they and they would have visceral reactions to me in the street you know he was a serial
07:01killer
07:01but he was pretty charismatic he was funny but also incredibly twisted narcissistic sociopath so people
07:09found that very they were very drawn to that or repulsed by that but it was it was there was
07:15nobody
07:16felt vanilla about you know it was really strong opinions either way so that was about i think that
07:23for me was the height of what i would experience as fame in that way and you know you could
07:30play into it
07:31or you can play against it uh you know there are lots of things i you know when people complain
07:36about fame they often you find them at the opening of a crisp packet and you go what are you
07:41doing at
07:42that at that opening why are you at opening of this funny little shop in knightsbridge which is
07:47covered with paparazzi stop it go home read a book i've got to say in in um this movie in
07:55fisherman's
07:55friends you you're very adept with the lobster pots james very adept with the nets and the ropes
08:01is that something that you knew about already is it something you learned in the first movie
08:06because it has to look casual doesn't it it has to look natural because this is jim's life
08:10yeah that's his life it's what he does uh i spent a lot of time with those guys and i
08:14spent a lot of
08:18time down in the down in the fish cellars down in port isaac just watching you know sometimes they
08:24didn't even know i was watching sometimes i'd just hang around a corner and just watch the way they'd
08:29spray down the the yard you know just just so that you can you just you know actors never don't
08:36hang
08:37out with actors too much you'll end up on screen you know i think one of the things about actors
08:41is
08:41they're just observing all the time i'm really happy sitting in a sitting in a piazza somewhere
08:47or a town square or anything just watching people i'm fascinated by and you can see things happening
08:54between people you don't even need to hear what they're saying but you can watch the interaction
08:59between people and you just log it away all the time go oh that's interesting i'll nick that i'll do
09:05that one day yeah don't hang out with actors
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