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00:00that's what we come to oc for right for healthy bull we are here for you guys there's no slam
00:05pigs you know i love them i love them aren't you obsessed with that i yes yeah you know i'm
00:11kind
00:11of like maybe we could use a slam game virtual reality gina kirchenheider you know danny and
00:22i love you so much welcome back to the studio and welcome back to another season of housewives
00:27it's been so much fun has it been what just like two or three episodes i'm like fully dialed in
00:33really yeah i'm hoping that it never ends like i'm just so glad that the girls are back i don't
00:39agree with you i really love to get to the end of it okay to the end we're savoring it
00:44yes and i love
00:46that for you but i it's anxiety evoking you know so just see you live it but then you have
00:52to relive it
00:53so yeah it's kind of hard to watch i was also kind of curious i mean will we still be
00:57introducing
00:58you with this name come next year you know what guys okay so i don't know we're not anywhere near
01:05close to doing like wedding planning or anything but where i sit today this is nuts but i kind of
01:10feel like i have to hyphenate it i say why the hell not i kind of have to i make
01:15it everybody else's
01:16problem right to get through and pronounce it you know it's already long enough so it's like why
01:22not make it longer like you guys you just mastered kershenheider why not throw in a mullet yeah
01:27it seems like i understood when he explained it like why it was important to him but i also
01:31understood your previous conversations like especially the one you had with your mom like
01:34why you would want to just keep it kershenheider for the kids when my my dad passed away my mom
01:38was
01:38like thinking about going back to her old last name but then she's like i want the same last name
01:42as my kids and then she just like never changed it so yeah i get both sides i'm i'm hyphenated
01:47now
01:48after i got married and it's sometimes difficult when like figuring out the whole like airplane
01:52tickets it's a nightmare yeah actually it is a nightmare yeah and sometimes brian and i were like
01:56why did we do that but um but you know what i mean yeah okay yeah well that's let's go
02:03with that
02:03you can have a new housewife type thing i'm having a hyphenation party oh because you know
02:07on housewives they love theme party that is such a good idea yes we're bringing all the letters of
02:13the alphabet yeah are you excited to start wedding planning are you kind of like soaking in this
02:17moment of not even thinking about it i really that i'm there right because i feel like you know
02:23marriage is a marathon why do we have to sprint to the wedding i plan on spending the rest of
02:27my life
02:27with this person right now our priorities are you know getting our kids through college you know i have
02:33six cars to buy i have you know i have a reality you know and also we're building our business
02:39and
02:39i'm making like you know kind of just like boss moves right now and i'm really enjoying that and
02:44i'd rather invest in myself and my business and all of that instead of in a party right now i
02:51just kind
02:51of feel like let me get through some of the bigger things i want to accomplish and then i'll throw
02:56like
02:56a rager yeah i love that i also think that's a smart way to do it that you're thinking through
03:00everything
03:00and it's because of that thought process i'm not surprised that in the box game you were boss
03:05babe you were getting all the compliments you guys my box was so kind so i was like i don't
03:11think i
03:11belong here you're like wait hold on i felt so bad too reading mine because it was so nice like
03:18every
03:18really my my castmates are really kind to me like i don't think we see enough of that like all
03:25of these
03:25women really have been you know they can be petty with me about stupid things but they've been so
03:30supportive always in my life of me starting over picking myself up you know my relationship with
03:36travis starting my own business they really are very supportive well i mean you kind of like get
03:41what you put out because you've never really been one to start conflict you'll engage in it yeah
03:45there's drama you'll you'll get into it but you've never been cruel to anyone i don't yeah so i don't
03:52think there's a reason to be yeah you know it's just not my nature no it was kind of funny
03:56on the
03:56episode that we watched before interviewing you that there was a moment when you hot potato to
04:00vicky when you and carmella were having an argument don't yell at me this over here yeah that was
04:07amazing that was really funny i know i threw her right under yeah but she was very vocal for a
04:14couple
04:14weeks vicky was ready to have her conversation she doesn't care i'll tell you exactly how i feel and
04:19i'm like she's saying all this stuff you should know what she's saying you're upset at me about me
04:23questioning the bag you know you should know what she's saying you know what it was really
04:26interesting like danny and i when we first heard about the dior and the dildo we were like wait
04:31that's like kind of fun and chic whatever but then hearing you unpack it from the best friend
04:35perspective i was like okay wait she is kind of making points and i understand why it was like
04:40slightly alarming to you now looking back do you do you stand by your reaction and the fact that it
04:47was
04:47weird i mean i can't help but be who i am right and when i hear that somebody's bought someone
04:55a gift
04:56that they barely know you know a three thousand dollar bag and a vibrator i'm never not going to
05:05be like that's weird yeah you know what i mean like it just it just was weird to me you
05:10know seeing
05:11carmela's perspective and i truly believe carmela is authentic and who she is so i don't think there
05:17was anything weird or i think she's like she it is what she said i think she's this knee-jerk
05:23person
05:24i think she was in dior as she should be you know and and i think that she saw the
05:29bag and i think that
05:30she thought that would match her whatever cream suit or i truly believe that so i don't think there's
05:34anything weird about it anymore knowing carmela but that's like a real reaction that i had and i
05:42can't you know there's no scenario in which i can pretend like i wouldn't react the same way well
05:46it was also really interesting when you brought up the fact that after one of her first initial
05:50meetings with emily it wasn't like sunshine and rainbows glowing reviews she was like that girl
05:55has so many questions yeah i think she referred to her as the litigator or something
06:00i guess i mean it seems a little sus to me that's all you know and my spidey sense just
06:06went up a
06:07little bit but also i think it's great that she did it i think it's great i think it's spicy
06:12and i
06:12think that that's you know what this group is about like people that are very different navigating
06:19through friendships and things are going to come up that are you know exciting and interesting do you
06:23and carmela kind of get to a better place as the season goes on are you kind of like okay
06:26now i know
06:26and i love her totally yeah we just went to lunch last week like i really do like her and
06:31why i like
06:31her is because she's authentic yeah i think she is who she is but when you don't know at first
06:36you
06:36just don't know you know do i feel badly that like i question that yes but also i feel like
06:43i was coming
06:44from a very logical place you know so it's hard for me to say like i'm never going to be
06:49a person
06:49that's like oh that that makes great sense like what a great gift you know and she even i think
06:54carmela
06:55even had said it like usually when she gives gifts in her group of friends they all pull together
07:01and they get their one very close friend one designer item so it was even unusual out of nature
07:06for her but i don't think it was you know i think it was genuine yeah totally i love that
07:12you guys do
07:12get to a better place because danie and i kind of are we're really big fans yeah i'm obsessed with
07:16her
07:16too i she's she is fun and what's cool is like you know at first i was like oh gosh
07:22she's in real
07:23seas it's going to be like selling sunset you know but it's not at all like you know and i
07:27even like you know i had something come up like a new business thing and i was like you know
07:32asking
07:32her about it last week it's cool for us we actually are able to talk to each other about things
07:37and
07:39we have that in common right also it's not like song sunset because you guys actually work in real
07:43we actually are i mean my i'm working on the weekends guys i'm putting out my signs this is
07:48not with love to all the signs that people you guys are doing a little bit different what do you
07:53think
07:53of carmela offering 20k to hire jen to come on to a development project because it rubs some girls
07:59the wrong way i mean again was it a little different than you know yeah like is that like
08:07uh these are the first things we're getting to know about carmela it's a little weird but like
08:13again the more you get to know carmela i just think she's the type of girl who like in the
08:19moment
08:19she's like the no plan plan like oh i feel it this feels right you know i'm sitting with jen
08:25she needs
08:25a job i'm gonna give her a job get your back you know let's just assign a number to it
08:31now do i
08:32think is that how i would operate my ship no but you know carmela navigates her business and she
08:40navigates it well yeah so i'm never going to tell her how to approach her business or anything she
08:46wants to do and i think she comes from a kind place yeah because i wasn't sure if there was
08:49because there was a moment i would have also respected her for this i didn't know if she was
08:52like i'm a housewife now i want to flex that i can drop a dior bag 20k to a friend
08:56well that's
08:56clearly what i thought at the beginning and i don't think that that's a weird response you know but now
09:02knowing her i don't think she's that way you know but it was yeah with the jen thing it was
09:08my look jen is a friend of mine too so when jen comes to me for advice my advice is
09:12i think you
09:13should get like a scope of work and know what you're committing to for this actual dollar amount
09:17because i'm also going to give my friend my practical advice for her on her end you know but
09:23i mean i don't really care i'm too busy to care about that honestly yeah and um what makes me
09:28stressed in
09:29the we haven't seen it really fully yet this season but we know it was in the trailer that
09:33your bestie emily's having some marriage trouble you know it's was so that was really hard i mean
09:40you know they have a very real marriage and a really strong marriage and they've been through a
09:44lot of ups and downs on the show and i love that she's so vulnerable and transparent with sharing that
09:49but this year did feel a little bit more scary it did you know they're going through so much
09:54marriage with luke and you know it's been they've had to endure that for a long time
10:00and i think that that is something that i can't imagine having to go through and like
10:06the stress that that does put on your marriage you know so it was a really really hard year for
10:10that
10:10it was just hard because i was hearing her talk in a way that was making me nervous yeah how
10:17did they
10:18balance it back because they're in a good spot now yeah i mean i think they're still working
10:23through it you know and i think when you ask her she's probably going to say that like that they
10:28just like any marriage they're having good times and bad times this is like a tough phase for them
10:33because it's not like they're going to have instantaneous you know relief from what they're
10:38going through and so they just have to find the best way to endure it and not lose each other
10:44in
10:45their relationship in the process of that you know and it's a very difficult thing to do i would
10:50imagine it seems like you and travis are like in a really good solid place we're great guys today
10:55is travis's birthday oh happy birthday i know i feel so sad that this is the second year in a
11:01row i'm doing press on his birthday okay you're a working girl yeah i know but it has to work
11:06yes well that must feel really nice yeah exactly we'll go with that yes yes and not not a dior
11:13bag
11:15how how did you sort of find yourself i feel like you guys are actively choosing peace and happiness
11:19even if things with the ex might still be a little bit rocky yeah okay we are yes and we're
11:25and you
11:26know when i moved back in with him that was my mindset i committed to that and i've never turned
11:31back
11:31on that you know but um and i think that we have a lot of really positive good things going
11:37on within
11:37our household and and you know for our family and we're just focusing on that yeah that is yeah so
11:42nice and
11:42it kind of like shows physically because you've never looked better we were just telling you like
11:47your hair looks so good like you look like an actual barbie doll this season like what is going
11:54on i feel like it's also probably like a self-confidence thing too like you feel better yes i think
11:59i do feel
12:00better overall i think it was really important for me to finally really you know evolve into this new
12:05place in life where i'm working i'm building also like financially you know it doesn't hurt to be
12:11making good money you know and turns out that like money matters you know and give me a couple more
12:34to invest i'm gonna buy some land out in like the palm springs area right and so i'm going in
12:40on a
12:40development project which i think vicky would actually count as a true development project you
12:44never know you never know but i think she would and um we're gonna be building uh 500 units of
12:50like
12:51affordable living right so affordable homes so i as i will call them sort of like luxury casitas so how
12:57is
12:57that for a big you everybody you know luxury casino in palm springs right i know we should go in
13:03on
13:04one yeah so yeah so hopefully you know god willing it's a big project it'll take a couple years but
13:11this is where i'm heading and i'm going in the right direction you know so and also with money helping
13:18bring peace what has been the best or something you splurged on that you're like i can't believe i
13:22splurged on this but it is so worth it and now that i've done it once i can never go
13:26back honestly
13:27vacation vacation and yeah because you know you can i like nice shoes and i like bags and i think
13:36you'll see a little bit of that as the season uh you know goes on but really that has been
13:42i just like
13:43don't care anymore on vacation i'm like that is our time as as a family to just do what we
13:50want to
13:50check out i don't care how much it costs i just write the check because you will never get back
13:55that time and those memories are invaluable you know so i think it's totally worth it and
14:03i also like like to travel well so you know i don't want to stay in a crappy hotel yeah
14:09i feel
14:10that sometimes i have to right and that's like i don't want to yeah yeah also kind of sad is
14:19although vicky's seemingly brokered peace between the checks amigos um it seems like shannon still
14:23isn't really she has her boundaries yeah um how are we feeling about the status of tamra and shannon's
14:30friendship because tamra told us that they are kind of friends behind the scenes but shannon doesn't
14:36want to publicly admit that yet or like acknowledge that and then heather when she was here was
14:41theorizing that maybe it's because of public perception what's your take on all that i mean
14:46i don't know if shannon was if that was the concern i think she has other things to be concerned
14:52about
14:53yeah she knows it right and i do want to say from my girl the one thing that i will
14:59say is it's not
15:01shtick with the falling it's real okay and you saw there was like a scene where uh she was on
15:07the
15:07phone with me and they show right that happened but way before we started filming and then this woman
15:13i you hear me on it not in the scene but like on the ring camera footage and i'm like
15:18oh my god do you
15:18need to go to the hospital and then and then she sent me a picture of her knee and she
15:22should have
15:22because she needed stitches in her name all right so this woman is not faking that that is who shannon
15:27is
15:27um so i just want to say that but i i don't know i mean maybe it is like a
15:32tough thing right but
15:33is it that she's it's the public opinion that she's afraid of or maybe sometimes the public opinion just
15:41holds you accountable and hold you you know what i mean like i feel so steady and good in my
15:50sobriety
15:51but it doesn't hurt to know that if i ever was to go back to drinking i'm gonna have to
15:58tell
16:00i've got some explaining to do you know and so i don't know maybe it's a little bit of both
16:05huh
16:05how have you because i also saw um i wasn't even i'm not sure if you were on the season
16:10that he was on
16:11but the producer who made the comment about shannon i saw she clapped back at that but i was wondering
16:16what was your thoughts when you saw that comment going around that he was saying that she wasn't great to
16:20work
16:20with and you know what it's hard for me to say because i only know my relationships with the
16:25producers like i i feel like if he's referencing something he's referencing something from like a
16:30more private moment or in her i don't i i've not necessarily seen that now have i seen shannon
16:36have a moment yeah you know but but you know she also let's look at what she's gone through on
16:44this
16:45show historically do i justify it have i ever done it no but you know i mean when she's dealing
16:50with she's afraid that like her ex's feelings and so she's flipping out and they also showed all that
16:56you know so that that to me like what they've showed what you've all seen is what i've seen
17:02right exactly so you guys are in a peaceful place though you and shannon i love shannon yeah good good
17:08i love her yes that's crazy because just like a few seasons ago i would have never thought y'all
17:12would be in the place that you are now never it's crazy it's the beauty of bravo yeah it truly
17:16is
17:17your producers love you like the people that are with gina like thank god that's so nice yeah i don't
17:23think i'll ever get that kind of comment but i'll be on completely honest really i don't fear i don't
17:31fear but let them comment you know yes yes yeah and uh but one thing that we always can expect
17:38is
17:39that there's always a dance of eggshells with you heather and emily i know isn't it such a bummer
17:44yeah it is because it's always like i'm like oh i think they're gonna be good this season and i'm
17:48like and then heather pissed me off nine times and i pissed her off ten times and and it's over
17:54such stupid stuff honestly and you'll see it all and it's going to be really embarrassing for us to
17:59watch but it is what it is it'll be fun for us it'll be fun for you guys you enjoy
18:04it buckle up
18:05yeah yeah but that's what i can say is it's never we really have real connection real friendship so
18:11we will work it out you know it's never over anything that's like life altering
18:16we're not like out of bounds with each other ever you know so it's okay it's like healthy bull
18:23yeah yeah i like that that's what we come to oc4 right for healthy bull we're here for you guys
18:29there's no slam pigs you know i love them i love that you obsessed with that i yes yeah you
18:36know
18:36i'm kind of like maybe we could use a slam
18:41bring on the slam fix but we're just healthy bull that's what we are oh my god i know rhode
18:46island has taken over a little bit like seriously well you know what i wonder i'm so curious what the
18:51salt lake city girls think because to me that's how i felt you know we've just been over here for
18:5720
18:58years enduring everybody who's new and shiny and amazing you know we're just like another one um but
19:03that's how i looked at salt lake city when they first came on so i was so curious to know
19:08like
19:08how how it feels for them now that there is now a new crop of yeah i know bravo keeps
19:14finding
19:14incredible women it's like all around the world yeah love usama love usama and i do love that some of
19:21the rhode island ladies got to experience being yelled at by vicky i think from the old girl oh it's
19:25great for them they just get them right in there it's actually an honor it really is an honor yeah
19:30has to get yelled at by vicky i've been yelled at her so many times when we asked vicky about
19:33them
19:33she said that she was terrified of them i was like vicky you were terrified of no one she's
19:38terrified you know how much life insurance that woman has she's scared of nothing right yeah the
19:41only thing she's terrified of is being called a debbie downer which is like the ultimate trigger
19:45that's so funny that is so insane how many times she has said it she's she was so beyond offended
19:51by that like seriously legitimately offended of all the things a housewife can be called and
19:56because she's the whoop it up you know and i think and i think also she was it was hard
20:02for
20:02her because she was dealing with a lot of real like medical issues yeah and i think it was really
20:07hard for her to have to reconcile like okay i am whoop it up vicky but also i'm kind of
20:13not
20:13like right now because i'm limited and that i think was really hard for her to hear you know
20:18right well she's still i hope she still whooped it up yeah i love her yeah yeah vicky
20:23will always whoop it up you know she hopefully first seasons to come it feels right that she's
20:28back yes i think it feels so right yeah i love her she loves me because i work yeah you
20:33know that's
20:34true you are a hustling girl yeah i'm in that is a girl you know how good it feels to
20:39be in
20:39i'm like whoa trophy i love her oh my god well and you know we love you thank you so
20:46much gina for
20:47taking the time on travis's birthday no less thank you i know happy birthday travis
20:52we'll see you soon
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