00:00how would you describe the current state of your friendship with gretchen if you kind of don't know
00:04who she really is well you know i feel like at the reunion she spoke really well and i think she
00:09spoke to it very well and um you know i don't want to give too much away because i want everyone to
00:13be able to watch it but i i do feel as if the things that she said at the reunion are things
00:18that she probably should have said in amsterdam at the dinner and i think that's another reason
00:21why we were why our takeaway was also difficult with her because you know i expected a different
00:28reaction that night at dinner like i would have been so irate that someone was putting that out
00:33there and making me into something i wasn't and it was kind of her lack of emotion and lack of
00:38response that was like very confusing for us so you know that that was hard that was a difficult
00:44takeaway but i feel as if at the reunion i think she spoke to it much better and so there's more
00:51clarity there as far as the evidence i'm just saying the evidence part of it like what gretchen
00:55has and and tamar has i i don't know those are two people that have a very toxic relationship that
01:00they've had for years and years and you know i i don't know if like i said i don't know if there's
01:07like a smoking gun which is what i would like but you know at the end of the day i've known gretchen for
01:14years i don't think that that she's that type of person i don't think she feels that in her heart and
01:19you know if the if if those screenshots were manipulated in any way that's just truly evil
01:24so and now i speaking of because the reunion there is so much for orange county fans to
01:29look forward to for answers and clarity and a reunion in a lot of ways because i feel like this
01:35is maybe the first time at a reunion someone who wasn't on the show for since halfway through
01:40comes back to really reunite with all the ladies i think i saw katie saying on social media she hopes
01:45to get to a good place with you all again and that there could be a road for that we see her
01:50really buddying up with tamra now which kind of surprised me because they didn't leave in perfect
01:56energy on the show but i'm curious where you feel her place in the group could be if there is one
02:02moving forward um i don't think that she left the reunion like reuniting with any of us at all
02:10i think she went in having the expectation that all of us are supposed to apologize to her
02:16but i don't feel as if that was reciprocated in any way
