'Hindi po normal': Wamil on medical aid as reward for intelligence information

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Former COA-ICFAO auditor Roderick Wamil testified on Wednesday, Aug. 5, that using medical aid in exchange for intelligence information was "not normal" based on his auditing experience.  Responding to Senator-Judge Risa Hontiveros, Wamil said it was the first time he had encountered such a practice, referring to confidential fund transactions submitted by the Office of the Vice President.  Subscribe to the Manila Bulletin Online channel! - https://www.youtube.com/TheManilaBulletin  Visit our website at http://mb.com.ph Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/manilabulletin Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/manila_bulletin Instagram: https://instagram.com/manilabulletin Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@manilabulletin  #VPSaraOnTrial #ManilaBulletinOnline #ManilaBulletin #LatestNews

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00:00And based on your expertise, normal po ba iyon na gamot ang kapalit ng intelligence information?

00:09Hindi po siya normal po, Your Honor.

00:12Hindi normal. Naranasan niyo na po ba ito dati na gamot ang bayad para sa impormasyon?

00:19Hindi pa po. First time po dun sa may OVP po, Your Honor.

00:22Okay, first time po dito sa OVP.

00:26At ito pa yung palaisipan. Kung may sakit talaga yung tao, na-investigahan niyo po ba sa IKFAO?

00:34Kung bakit kailangang magbigay muna sa intelligence information bago siya bigyan ng gamot?

00:41Hindi po, Your Honor.

00:42Hindi niyo na-investigahan.

00:46So bilang auditor, ito po ba ay ifa-file sa ilalim ng pabuya o sa ilalim ng ayuda?

00:54Pwede po kasing tignan yan. Kasi since document-based po kami, pwede po siyang tignan as payment of rewards, pero

01:01pwede rin po siyang tignan as provision of medicine.

01:04So pwede rin tignan as provision of medicine. So pwede rin siyang tignan na ayuda?

01:09Kung yun po yung ibig sabihin ng provision of medicine, pwede rin po.

01:13Pwede rin.

01:15So kasi, paano yun? Yung mga informant po ba, most of the time, may sakit?

01:22I wouldn't know po.

01:24Natanong niyo ba kung ang gamot na yan ay para saan? Hika ba? Alta-pression ba? Diabetes ba?

01:31Hindi po.

01:32Hindi rin.

01:33And ayon po dito, si Mary Grace Piatos, ayon sa isang acknowledgement receipt, si Mary Grace Piatos ay nakatanggap ng

01:4170,000 pesos worth ng gamot bilang pabuya.

01:47Ano po ba yung sakit niya?

01:49I wouldn't, wala, hindi ko po malalaman since wala naman po dun sa document po na sinamig.

01:54We'll do, Mr. Presiding Officer. Pero may paraan po ba ang ikfa o malaman kung ano yung sakit niya? Kasi

02:01binayaran natin ito eh.

02:05Pwede po namin tanungin, Your Honor. Pero since document-based po kami, kung ano lang po yung nasa document, yun

02:11lang po yung malalaman namin.

02:13Document-based pero pwede niyong tanungin?

02:15Yes po.

02:16Okay. Kapag may mga di normal na pangyayaring ganito.

02:20Yes po. Allow it po kami under 6.2.3.7 of the Joint Circular.

02:24Okay. Salamat, Mr. Witte. Salamat, Mr. Presiding Officer.

02:27Thank you, Senator Judge Risa.

02:29I'll go around 3 po ako kung meron po. Salamat.

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