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00:00Now it's time to give takes the opening segment.
00:02Like I just wanted to break it down.
00:03I wanted to talk about everything that happened yesterday and everything that
00:06didn't happen yesterday because they need a right-handed bat.
00:08They didn't get one.
00:09They need to start in pitching depth.
00:11They didn't get one because they,
00:12they think that Andrew Painter's back and,
00:14and you know,
00:15Aaron Nola has been pitching better and blah,
00:17blah,
00:17blah.
00:18But the move yesterday,
00:20the big one that I am excited about,
00:22like,
00:22that's why I don't want Walter McCray tweet me saying,
00:24I'll go grief.
00:25And you're like,
00:26no,
00:26I was really excited about the Louisa rise trade because that is my kind of
00:29baseball player.
00:30I had to take the shot at the stat nerds yesterday.
00:33Like,
00:33all right,
00:33the guy gets on base hitting the ball.
00:36Isn't that crazy?
00:37Oh,
00:37well,
00:37his OBP is not much better than his batting average.
00:40Yeah.
00:40Cause he swings and he hits the ball and he knows how to hit and he can hit
00:43it to all fields.
00:45Wow.
00:45What a novel concept.
00:47A guy that could put the bat on ball.
00:49Wow.
00:49Oh my God.
00:50It's unbelievable.
00:51But you know,
00:52he doesn't hit 40 home runs.
00:53So he stinks.
00:55I don't get it.
00:56I love the addition of Louisa rise,
00:58but when Louisa rise comes here,
01:00your immediate thought is,
01:02all right,
01:03what's next?
01:04Because when they made the trade for a rise,
01:06when we were on the air,
01:07we were reacting.
01:09Okay.
01:09That means you have to change something in the infield.
01:13And I had been saying for weeks for the Phillies to really be taken
01:16seriously post trade deadline,
01:18they would have to get creative because I can't see the same starting lineup
01:22every single day.
01:22I did not want to acquire another platoon player that you're only going to see
01:26so often.
01:27So they get a rise and you're thinking,
01:29all right,
01:29either what's next,
01:30who's on the way out,
01:32or how are you going to realign this infield?
01:35Because a rise is playing second base.
01:37So that means Bryson Stott is not playing second base.
01:41Bryson Stott is the better second baseman,
01:43but there was only one other position to put Louisa rise.
01:46And that was first base.
01:47So they make the decision to put a rise at second.
01:51And according to reports,
01:52that's what he wanted to play wherever he was traded.
01:56So the Phillies knew that going in.
01:58So now what do you do with Bryson Stott?
02:01The easiest answer,
02:05easiest answer is you put him at shortstop.
02:08Don't overthink it.
02:09You put him at shortstop.
02:11You move your potential gold glove second baseman
02:14to stay in the middle of the infield.
02:16You put him at shortstop.
02:18We've seen him play a good shortstop before,
02:21right?
02:22The year the Phillies went to the world series,
02:24we saw him play solid shortstop.
02:26Gene Segura was playing second.
02:29Stott was playing short.
02:32And they say,
02:33now we're either going to put him at third base
02:35or move him to the outfield.
02:37That was the initial reporting yesterday.
02:39I'm going,
02:39what are we talking about?
02:41I'm moving the outfield.
02:42What?
02:43Why would you do that?
02:44And then you hear eventually
02:46that it's going to be
02:48stop to third,
02:51boom to first,
02:53Harper to the outfield.
02:54In which Bryce Harper has been open
02:56for a while now
02:57that for the right player,
02:59he would go to the outfield.
03:00Is a rise the right player for that?
03:03Hear me out.
03:05You are now moving
03:06your potential gold glove second baseman
03:10to third base,
03:11which is where he started his major league career,
03:14but that was just for the time being.
03:16You are moving your potential
03:18gold glove first baseman
03:20to the outfield.
03:23You are keeping
03:24your league leader in errors
03:27at shortstop.
03:29When this was the time
03:31in season
03:32that if you were able
03:33to talk Trey Turner
03:34into it,
03:36if that's truly
03:37what this is all about,
03:38this was the time
03:40to do it.
03:41A couple weeks ago
03:42when Don Mattingly
03:43is doing the whole
03:44I stand by Trey,
03:47it would have just been
03:48a demotion.
03:49I guess you could say that.
03:51I don't know how.
03:51Would you call it a demotion
03:52still in the lineup?
03:53Like, I wouldn't call it a demotion.
03:54It would be a
03:56admission to failure
03:58at shortstop
03:59if they did not make a trade
04:00and they moved Trey Turner.
04:02So three weeks ago,
04:03hey Trey,
04:04we're just moving you out of this spot
04:05because you suck.
04:06And that's the answer
04:08that you're telling Trey Turner.
04:09When Trey Turner asks why,
04:10the answer is because you suck.
04:13But when you get the addition
04:14of Louisa Rice,
04:15this was the very easy moment
04:18to say,
04:18hey,
04:19we need to move some pieces around.
04:21And the best thing for us right now
04:23is to either put you at third base,
04:26which is something
04:26that I have talked about,
04:28because I think
04:28if he plays third base,
04:29there's no time for him to think.
04:30He just goes out there,
04:31he plays third.
04:32You're still moving
04:33Boehm to first.
04:33You're still moving
04:34Harper to the outfield.
04:36Or,
04:36you do what everyone thinks
04:38is the best idea,
04:39which I don't necessarily agree with,
04:41and that's move him
04:42to a corner outfield spot.
04:43You move him to left field,
04:44you move him to right field,
04:45and now your infield
04:46is Bryce Harper at first base,
04:48you have Louisa Rice
04:49at second base,
04:50Alec Boehm stays at third,
04:51where he's turned
04:51his career around defensively,
04:53and you have
04:54Bryson Stott at shortstop.
04:55Is that not the most
04:57logical answer
04:59for this puzzle?
05:02Instead,
05:03they tailor around this guy,
05:05and there is no
05:06baseball reason
05:08why.
05:09Don Mattingly yesterday,
05:12after the trade deadline
05:13comes to an end,
05:14was asked about
05:15whether or not
05:15they considered
05:16moving Trey Turner
05:17off a shortstop.
05:18Zero.
05:20Do you know
05:22if he's open
05:23to it at all?
05:24If you were...
05:25We didn't talk about it,
05:27we didn't discuss
05:28moving him,
05:29so there's no reason
05:29to talk to him.
05:30I don't believe that,
05:33because there is no way
05:34they have watched
05:36this entire season,
05:38and have said,
05:39from a baseball
05:41standpoint,
05:42this is the right move
05:44to make,
05:44keeping him at shortstop.
05:47It's gotta be
05:48something deeper
05:48than that.
05:49It's either
05:51admission of failure
05:52from the front office
05:52saying,
05:53no, no, no, no,
05:54we paid that guy
05:54300 plus million dollars,
05:55we can't move him.
05:56No, no, no,
05:56that'd be a bad look
05:57on us.
05:58Or it's Trey Turner
06:01having some sway
06:02in the decision.
06:03Because once more,
06:04I'll say it again,
06:06there is no
06:08baseball reason
06:09why Trey Turner
06:10should still be
06:11the shortstop
06:12of the Philadelphia Phillies.
06:13Can you give me
06:15a baseball reason,
06:16Connor,
06:17that Trey Turner
06:18is still the shortstop?
06:19Don't tell me
06:20what he wants.
06:20Don't tell me
06:21what he doesn't want.
06:22Don't tell me
06:23what he's comfortable with
06:25because he's clearly
06:25not comfortable
06:26with shortstop
06:26because he stinks at it.
06:28So from a baseball
06:29standpoint,
06:30can you explain to me
06:31why the defensive
06:33alignments will change
06:34so much that
06:35Gold Glove potential
06:36first baseman
06:36is going to the outfield,
06:38Gold Glove potential
06:39second baseman
06:39is going to third base,
06:41and Butcher,
06:42to steal the word
06:43from John Kikade,
06:44at shortstop
06:44remains the same.
06:46It makes ground balls
06:48to shortstop
06:48more interesting
06:49for the fans.
06:50Yeah, no,
06:50that's not a good enough answer.
06:52There is none.
06:53There's absolutely none.
06:54I think what people
06:55need to realize
06:55is that Trey Turner
06:56has this organization
06:57by the short ones.
06:58Like,
06:59he has control
07:00over this.
07:01All right,
07:01then I need
07:02Dave Dombrowski
07:03to call Dr.
07:04Ravi Don Appel
07:04on the team
07:05at Iron Mountain
07:05Men's Health.
07:06I don't know
07:06if he helps
07:07in that area,
07:09but we need
07:10big ones now.
07:11All right,
07:11because enough
07:12is enough.
07:13Like,
07:14they have fallen
07:15short of the goal
07:16each of the last
07:17three seasons
07:18in different ways.
07:20In embarrassing fashion
07:22in 23,
07:23you didn't show up
07:24in 24,
07:25and oh,
07:26by the way,
07:27you did not win
07:28in 25
07:28because of what?
07:30Fundamentals.
07:31Yep.
07:32And weren't
07:32one of the issues
07:33to throw home
07:34from the shortstop
07:35that you're keeping
07:36at that position?
07:37Yes.
07:38So if you need
07:39to know
07:39who's at fault
07:40here,
07:41to me,
07:41it's very simple.
07:43There are two options.
07:44Either two
07:45Hall of Fame
07:46caliber baseball
07:48minds
07:48cannot see
07:50that the worst
07:51defensive shortstop
07:52in baseball
07:52is the worst
07:53defensive shortstop
07:54in baseball.
07:55I don't believe
07:56that's the case.
07:57So that leaves
07:59us one option
07:59for where to
08:00point the blame.
08:01And it's Trey Turner.
08:03That he refuses
08:04to move
08:04from that position.
08:05That he is not
08:06willing to do that.
08:07That he's had
08:08those conversations
08:09in the past
08:09and believes
08:10he's entitled
08:10to play shortstop
08:11for the Phillies.
08:12And the organization
08:13looks at it
08:13and says,
08:14well,
08:15we owe him
08:16all this money.
08:17He's going to be here
08:18for a very long time.
08:19And if we make
08:21this a bad situation
08:22between us and him,
08:24we're either going
08:24to have to eat
08:25a boatload of money,
08:26make a trade,
08:27we get nothing
08:27back or whatsoever,
08:28or it's going
08:29to be really bad
08:30for the locker room.
08:30So if that's the case,
08:31then I hate Trey Turner.
08:33As a person.
08:34If that's the case.
08:36Because then that means
08:37this guy can't let his ego
08:39get out of the way.
08:40He can't get out of the way
08:41of his own ego.
08:42If that is the case,
08:43if the true story
08:45comes out,
08:45which would be
08:46after the season
08:47comes to an end
08:48and somebody speaks
08:49anonymously to a reporter,
08:50if the true story
08:51comes out
08:52that it was
08:53Trey Turner
08:54whining
08:55to stay at shortstop,
08:57then I will dislike him
08:58as an individual.
08:59Not just as a baseball player,
09:00because then I think
09:02you are impacting
09:02the team
09:03for your own
09:05personal feelings.
09:06And if that's the case,
09:07then I don't like you.
09:08Then I don't respect you.
09:09Now look,
09:10that might not be the case.
09:11Maybe Dave Dombrowski
09:12thinks this is the right move.
09:14And if that's the case,
09:15then I will continue
09:16to think that Dave Dombrowski
09:17is living off his resume.
09:18Because I've been saying
09:19that for years too.
09:20That's not living off
09:21your resume.
09:22That's being blind.
09:23That's seeing something
09:25that nobody else sees.
09:27I don't know
09:28how it's possible
09:29that a dude
09:29that has been
09:30in the game
09:30for that long,
09:31and Don Mattingly
09:32on top of that,
09:32because I know
09:33he's an interim manager,
09:34he has some sway,
09:35at least a little bit,
09:36to have those conversations.
09:37And they're both
09:38doubling down
09:39on no we haven't
09:39talked about.
09:40The only reason
09:40we haven't considered that
09:41is because we previously
09:43had the conversation
09:44with Trey.
09:44He was completely
09:45against ever doing it.
09:46It's like, okay,
09:47that conversation's
09:48forever off the table.
09:49That's the only way
09:50this has happened.
09:51And if that's the case,
09:52then shame on Trey Turner.
09:53Because then Trey Turner
09:53is impacting
09:54the Philadelphia Phillies
09:55and he's impacting
09:56the city of Philadelphia.
09:5716 errors at shortstop
09:59in 2022,
09:59led the league
10:00in 2023 with 23,
10:0217 errors in 2024,
10:04had a much,
10:05much, much better
10:06fielding season
10:06in 2025
10:07with just eight errors,
10:08and then it skyrocketed
10:10to 18.
10:11So what's the outlier now?
10:12This season with eight.
10:14The consistent
10:15is the teens,
10:16if not more,
10:17when he led the league
10:18with errors in 2023
10:20with 23.
10:21By the way,
10:21he could reach
10:2220 this year.
10:23He's two errors away.
10:25And if Major League Baseball
10:26still called errors
10:27the way that they
10:28should call errors,
10:29he's already in the 20s.
10:32They just take him off
10:33all the time.
10:35I need somebody
10:36to explain to me
10:37why Trey Turner
10:38is still at shortstop.
10:39There's one more level
10:40to this real quick, too.
10:42All you Phillies fans
10:43out there better appreciate
10:44the hell out of Bryce Harper
10:45more than some of you
10:46have been
10:47for moving to the outfield.
10:49Because he could easily
10:50be doing this, too.
10:50Oh, it's all about Bryce.
10:51He's the showman.
10:52He only cares about himself.
10:54He moved to the outfield.
10:54That dude's willing to move.
10:55People treat him
10:56like he doesn't care
10:57about anything.
10:58Meanwhile, you've got
10:58a shortstop who's got
10:59you held hostage.
11:01And we're just looking
11:03at it like,
11:03oh, it's Dave Dombrowski
11:04potentially.
11:05And this is why
11:06when I get Walter McRae
11:07tweeting,
11:07I mean, good grief.
11:09When I break it all down
11:11to you,
11:11yes, they are better
11:13today.
11:14At 6.01 p.m.
11:16last night,
11:17they were a better
11:18baseball team.
11:20But did they solve
11:21the issues
11:23that have plagued
11:24this team
11:24for the last
11:26three postseasons?
11:27Right-handed pop?
11:30Poor fundamentals.
11:32Did they fix
11:33that yesterday?
11:35Those answers
11:35are still no.
11:37So, reaction
11:38coming up next.
11:39Davis on a text line.
11:40Feel the Davis difference.
11:41Check him out
11:41in Burlington.
11:43I kind of just want
11:44your gut feeling
11:45post-trade deadline.
11:47Are you angry?
11:48Are you thrilled?
11:49Are you confused
11:51like me?
11:51Do you think
11:52that they are
11:53World Series contenders?
11:54Do you think
11:55that they did this
11:55to just win another series?
11:57Are they a good club?
11:59Like, what is it?
12:00What is your gut feel reaction?
12:02Because I can't be
12:03just angry,
12:05but I also can't
12:06just be lying to you
12:08and saying this was
12:09a great trade deadline
12:10for the Phillies.
12:10They got better.
12:12But how much?
12:14How much?
12:16How much?
12:17How much?
12:18How much?
12:18How much?