00:16I joked the other day
00:19that a 12-run lead was the only one
00:21that this bullpen could actually
00:22hold on to.
00:24Not knowing that they would have
00:26a 7-0 lead.
00:277-1 when Scoobs
00:29exited the game.
00:32And I did hear
00:34Bonetti when he was on TV
00:36say an interesting stat.
00:38The last time they lost a 7-run
00:40lead was back
00:42in September
00:43of 1986.
00:47Petrie was there.
00:48He actually said,
00:50yeah, I remember that game.
00:52Jim,
00:53before we get to the main portion here,
00:55I got a question.
00:57Oh, it's the bullpen, right?
01:00I knew you'd love it.
01:02I've been sitting on this
01:03since yesterday afternoon
01:05as I was listening in the car
01:06and even in the postgame
01:07and heard Dan and Bobby
01:09kind of say, wow,
01:11this one's tough to take.
01:13You mean because the bullpen
01:15gave up
01:17runs from four different options
01:19yesterday?
01:20Yeah.
01:21You think so?
01:21Yeah, it didn't matter who they brought in.
01:23And it didn't even matter
01:24that
01:24some of them would get to
01:26an 0-2 count
01:28and then walk a guy.
01:30And just one other note
01:31on yesterday's game,
01:32that
01:33highlight we just played
01:34with Javi
01:35kind of didn't get the right angle
01:36on that.
01:38That's what I meant
01:39by the engine misfiring.
01:42Something happens
01:43when everything else
01:44is going well.
01:45He's been unbelievable
01:46at the plate
01:47since he's been back.
01:48And made some really nice plays
01:50in center field too.
01:51And he's out there
01:51and Outman's not out there
01:53as much.
01:54And it just,
01:56they just can't get out
01:57of their own way.
01:58But in a lot of ways
01:59that was poetic.
02:01Like,
02:02that's who they are.
02:04Strong start
02:04from starting pitcher.
02:06In this case,
02:06Tarek Skubal.
02:08Given all that's on the line,
02:09it's a strong start
02:10from Skubal.
02:11Did you,
02:11only to have,
02:12only to have the fight
02:15for extra innings
02:16and beyond
02:16not be enough
02:17because of the bullpen.
02:19In other nights,
02:19it's because of the offense.
02:21But this was because
02:21of the bullpen.
02:22It was very poetic.
02:23This is who they are
02:24in one baseball game
02:26summed up very neatly
02:27and nicely.
02:28Poetry not always
02:30happy.
02:31This was sad,
02:32but it was poetic.
02:33I know that
02:34you're not supposed
02:34to cheer
02:35in the press box,
02:38but did you give him
02:40his due on his
02:40thousandth strikeout?
02:42Did you give him the,
02:43were you part of
02:43the standing ovation?
02:44No,
02:44that would be frowned upon.
02:47But,
02:47yesterday was a win
02:49for bad fans.
02:52Yesterday was a win
02:53for bad fans
02:54who wanted this team
02:55to have a clear direction.
02:58Right?
03:02I don't know
03:02how to best say this.
03:04So,
03:04I mentioned yesterday
03:05when you said,
03:05am I a bad fan?
03:06And I've said yes.
03:08I don't necessarily
03:09agree with that statement.
03:10I agree with
03:11my perspective
03:13that I want to win
03:14every game,
03:14but I still want them
03:15to do what's right.
03:17What is right,
03:18even if they had
03:18won that game yesterday,
03:20Tork has a great moment
03:22of tying things up
03:24with a two-run shot.
03:25They find a way
03:26to,
03:27you know,
03:28manage to get a win
03:29in that game.
03:31I still want them
03:32to do what's right.
03:33But I was unsure
03:35they would,
03:36and I feel better
03:37that they will do
03:38the right thing
03:39after a loss like that.
03:41You sure?
03:42You're 100% positive?
03:43I didn't say,
03:43I'm sold.
03:44I said,
03:45I feel better
03:46because that's
03:47hard to ignore.
03:49And it became
03:49more ridiculous
03:50as the game
03:51went into extras.
03:51They blow a seven-run lead
03:53and that's already
03:54an indictment
03:55on this bullpen
03:56and this team.
03:57But then I'm sitting
03:58there going,
03:58wait,
03:58are we really doing this?
04:00It comes down
04:01to the 12th inning
04:02and whether they can
04:02get a guy over.
04:03That's what decides
04:04whether Tarek Skubel
04:05is here is whether
04:06they can get a guy
04:07over in the 12th inning
04:08on July 30th.
04:11No.
04:12No,
04:13but that's where
04:13you hope that
04:15as a Tiger fan,
04:16you're still hoping
04:16for a win
04:18but still do
04:18the right thing.
04:19Even if they were
04:20to get a win yesterday,
04:21it would have been
04:21an ugly,
04:22awful win
04:23but an ugly,
04:25awful win
04:25is still better
04:26than any type
04:27of beautiful loss.
04:29How about this text?
04:31Went to the game
04:31with my dad and brother.
04:32We recapped the game
04:33as the following.
04:34We saw 1,000 strikeouts,
04:37100 home runs,
04:38and pretty much
04:39everybody from the bullpen
04:40entered the game.
04:41Got to see
04:42the whole roster.
04:45After the cluster bleep
04:47that was that Tigers game
04:48against a brutal Orioles team,
04:50is it possible
04:51that Illich
04:51is beginning to question
04:52the wisdom
04:53of hiring Harris
04:54who had no experience
04:55making deals
04:55before Detroit?
04:57Well,
04:58this is going
05:00to be
05:01a landmark
05:02moment
05:03for Scott Harris.
05:05It's going to be
05:06one that's talked about.
05:07I mean,
05:08we talk about
05:09Doyle Alexander
05:10and John Smoltz.
05:11We talk about
05:12Justin Verlander
05:13and the return
05:14that they got
05:15for him.
05:15This is going
05:16to be one
05:17that we're
05:18talking about
05:19for,
05:20what,
05:20the next 30 years
05:21or more?
05:22We're going
05:23to use it
05:23as an example.
05:24And does it
05:25somehow set up
05:26the Tigers
05:27for more success
05:29next year
05:29in 27,
05:3028,
05:3129,
05:31or
05:33do they lose
05:33them for nothing?
05:36How do you
05:36lose a series
05:37when you outscore
05:38your opponent
05:3821 to nothing
05:39at some point
05:40in the series?
05:40That's unbelievable.
05:43It really is.
05:45Think about that.
05:46I got to give
05:47John and Lake
05:47Orient credit
05:48for this.
05:48He called
05:49yesterday's game.
05:49He summed it up
05:50as the walleye
05:51invitation.
05:54It was
05:55everything
05:56wrapped up.
05:57Just stop
05:57walleye.
05:58Walleye.
06:00Walleye!
06:027-0 lead.
06:03Why allow
06:03Scoogle to prove
06:04he can't
06:05go through
06:06the lineup
06:06the third time
06:07through?
06:07That extra inning
06:08did nothing
06:08for the Tigers
06:09and actually hurt
06:10Scoogle's
06:10trade value.
06:12No,
06:13it didn't.
06:13No,
06:14no,
06:14it didn't.
06:15No,
06:15he is a two
06:16time Cy Young
06:16award winner
06:17who's having
06:17another phenomenal
06:18season.
06:18Yeah,
06:19come on.
06:19There's not
06:19enough starting
06:20pitching available
06:20at the trade
06:21deadline and he
06:22is by far
06:23the number
06:23one option.
06:24No,
06:25it didn't
06:25hurt his
06:25trade value.
06:26It was
06:28anticlimactic
06:28because the
06:29crowd was
06:29ready to
06:30cheer him
06:31off the
06:31mound
06:31after a
06:32big strike
06:32out.
06:36Ends up
06:36walking
06:37Leody
06:37Tavares.
06:38Yeah,
06:40and it
06:41kind of
06:41encapsulated
06:42I think
06:42the feelings
06:43for Tarek
06:44Scoogle
06:44where AJ
06:46comes out
06:47and you
06:47kind of
06:48feel like
06:49yeah,
06:49he's going
06:49to give
06:49him one
06:50more
06:50opportunity
06:51to have
06:52that
06:52moment
06:55and
06:55Scoob
06:56just
06:56couldn't
06:57take
06:58advantage
06:58of it.
06:59Reminiscent
07:00of
07:01hey,
07:01you know,
07:02he couldn't
07:02finish the
07:03deal
07:03against
07:04Seattle.
07:06It just
07:06it kind
07:07of encapsulates
07:08the fact
07:08that we
07:08love him
07:09because he
07:09was a
07:10dominant
07:11pitcher
07:11for the
07:12Detroit
07:12Tigers.
07:13It's
07:13it's
07:13it's
07:14an end
07:14of an
07:14era
07:15in Detroit
07:16but it
07:17can also
07:17be the
07:18beginning
07:18of a
07:19new
07:19era
07:19and
07:20what that
07:21era looks
07:21like.
07:22That's
07:22where
07:22and you
07:23mentioned
07:23this a
07:23little bit
07:24yesterday
07:24where you
07:25should have
07:25some
07:25excitement
07:26not about
07:27losing
07:28the best
07:29pitcher in
07:29baseball
07:30but what
07:30it looks
07:31like in
07:32the years
07:32to come
07:33and no
07:33one wants
07:34to be
07:34patient.
07:35No one
07:35wants to
07:36wait
07:36any longer
07:37but
07:39what they
07:40get in
07:40return
07:42should
07:42give you
07:43some
07:43excitement
07:43and what
07:44they do
07:44the rest
07:44of the
07:45season
07:45how they
07:45handle
07:45the rest
07:46of the
07:46season
07:47quick
07:47correction
07:48they
07:48he walked
07:49Mayo
07:49he gave
07:49up the
07:50single to
07:50Tavares
07:50that was
07:51the last
07:51batter
07:53with
07:53this
07:54though
07:54there's
07:54no
07:55promises
07:55or
07:55guarantees
07:56it's
07:57just
07:57you're
07:58going to
07:58lose
07:58them
07:58anyway
07:59you're
08:00going to
08:00lose
08:00them
08:00at the
08:01end
08:01anyway
08:01and if
08:01you're
08:02going to
08:02miss
08:02the
08:02playoffs
08:02anyway
08:03because
08:03hello
08:04look at
08:04who
08:04this
08:04team
08:04is
08:05it's
08:06it's
08:06it's
08:06so
08:06much
08:06that
08:07I'm
08:07confident
08:07this
08:08is
08:08going
08:08to
08:08bolster
08:08them
08:09into
08:09the
08:09future
08:10forever
08:10it's
08:11just
08:11the
08:11right
08:12business
08:12decision
08:13it's
08:14good
08:14business
08:14to
08:15trade
08:15Tarek
08:15Scoble
08:15and
08:16yes
08:16maybe
08:17it
08:17does
08:17offer
08:17them
08:18some
08:18real
08:18upside
08:19down
08:19the
08:19line
08:19make
08:20something
08:20out
08:21of
08:21this
08:21awful
08:22lousy
08:22sad
08:22situation
08:23it's
08:23sad
08:23to
08:24blow
08:24a
08:24seven
08:24nothing
08:25lead
08:25it's
08:25sad
08:26to
08:26have
08:26a
08:27two
08:27time
08:28Cy
08:28young
08:29award
08:29winner
08:29that
08:29you
08:30can't
08:30keep
08:30it's
08:31sad
08:31but
08:31you
08:31got
08:31to
08:31do
08:32something
08:32about
08:32it
08:32it's
08:33sad
08:33to
08:33have
08:33a
08:34top
08:3410
08:34payroll
08:34and
08:35we've
08:35been
08:35begging
08:35for
08:36a
08:36top
08:3610
08:37payroll
08:37and
08:38to
08:40poop
08:40the
08:40bed
08:41that
08:42they
08:42did
08:42John
08:42Jeff
08:43Passan
08:44the
08:49park
08:50yesterday
08:50he's
08:51got
08:51some
08:51perspective
08:51on how
08:52this
08:52deadline
08:52is
08:52going
08:52to
08:52play
08:53out
08:53specifically
08:54when it
08:54comes
08:54to
08:54Tarek
08:55Scoobel
08:55and
08:56why don't
08:56we
08:56hear
08:56from
08:56the
08:56man
08:56himself
08:57Tarek
08:57Scoobel
08:58after
08:58the
08:58game
08:58will
08:59play
08:59the
08:59audio
08:59next
09:0097
09:00one
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