00:00Big story yesterday in sports outside of actual sports
00:04was ESPN's layoffs, some of the big names that were let go.
00:09We knew about Ryan Clark.
00:11Bart Scott was let go.
00:14Charles Davis, a friend of the show,
00:15and, of course, a very, very similar voice to Ron Pitts
00:19who speed-shamed Leroy Horde.
00:21Tom Pellicero was let go, NFL Network reporter.
00:26Andreas Hall, who covers boxing.
00:30And Cam Newton, no longer going to be on first take.
00:33Cam Newton did not have a bitter ending.
00:38He was cool about it.
00:39He was like, yeah, it was a great experience being on first take.
00:42I was a little surprised.
00:43I was like, how much was Cam Newton making that?
00:45Was he regular on first take?
00:46Was he like he was doing all last year?
00:48I don't know that he's a regular.
00:50No, he didn't replace Shannon Sharp.
00:54I thought that he replaced Shannon Sharp
00:55when they got rid of Shannon Sharp.
00:57Shemitah says, don't worry, punting is coming out with an album.
01:00Yeah, McAfee was all sensitive about it yesterday
01:02because people were like, he's getting ready to sign
01:04apparently a massive deal that's going to pay him like 60 mil a year.
01:07And so people are like, how come McAfee is getting all this money
01:12and I can't have Carl Ravage?
01:13Look, I see both sides of this, to be honest with you.
01:17I'm not the biggest Pat McAfee fan in the world.
01:19However, I will say this as much as punting can be annoying
01:24because, uh, you know, especially when he was, you know,
01:27fawning over Aaron Rodgers, when Aaron Rodgers was just
01:29spinning nonsense on his show, his show is a juggernaut.
01:34And basically what it is, is it's just like everybody likes
01:36going on that show because they're going to get nothing
01:39of a hardball interview.
01:41You basically get to go on, hang out with the boys.
01:43It's on airports and bars.
01:45It's eye candy.
01:46There's a reason why it's, it's as big as it is.
01:49It's because it's like, it's just a hang.
01:52And I will say for McAfee to give him credit.
01:54Now I, I cannot tell you a time I've ever watched all of McAfee
01:58because it's on at the same time as us.
02:00Uh, I usually only will see social media clips,
02:02but every sport goes on that.
02:04He will put every sport on his show.
02:06So there is a, there is some credit to, to be, to be said for that.
02:09There's no wonder why ESPN wants to do more of that.
02:13It's easy.
02:14He does all the production, all that money goes to his staff.
02:17Um, I, I kind of get why ESPN is going full into McAfee.
02:22He does every sport.
02:24Is he my favorite personality in the world?
02:25No, I think there's some points where he's, he's a little over the
02:29top annoying.
02:29That's kind of how he got the gig.
02:31But do I get why a network is like, Oh, we're getting behind this.
02:35This is a monster for us.
02:37And it's easy.
02:38We don't really have to do the work.
02:39We're just paying for it.
02:40Of course.
02:41So I, uh, I get that.
02:44I don't want to see call ravaged leave.
02:45That's my, that's like my childhood.
02:46I love baseball tonight.
02:47Call ravages.
02:49Uh, you know, I gotta be honest with you.
02:51I didn't even know it was still at ESPN because baseball tonight's not
02:53really a thing anymore.
02:54It's not a property, but it does bum you out.
02:57It does.
02:58It does.
02:58It does.
02:59But yeah, any clip I see of AJ Hawk, he still somehow talks less.
03:03Uh, he still somehow talks less than Leroy did during the Clayton
03:06McCullough interview.
03:07Yeah.
03:08He does nothing.
03:09He does nothing.
03:10But, uh, so we're going to stop with Leroy.
03:15He's like under anesthesia right now.
03:18Leroy did throw me an anchor in that.
03:19He really was just like, Oh, I have no question.
03:24Um, I know people were also very mad about the way Ryan Clark got
03:28fired.
03:29Uh, he got let go in the middle of NFL and NFL live.
03:33And I don't understand why there was this need to like rush to do that.
03:36Cause I always think it's funny.
03:37And I, and this is going to happen to me one day, eventually, eventually, this is
03:41how it ends for all broadcasters.
03:43It does.
03:43Brittany, I'm getting you ready for when you're a star and they, and they, and
03:46they eventually, when they lay me off and they give you the chair, this is how
03:49they'll do it to you.
03:50Eventually like 15 years down the road, eventually when you get it, it's just like
03:53you're pulled into an office and they just say, Hey, let you go.
03:56You know, we're, and they, and they escort you out.
03:58Cause they all think this is, they all think we're all going to go crazy.
04:02Everybody, everybody thinks somewhere along the way, some broadcaster must've
04:05just gone.
04:06Absolutely bananas.
04:07I actually do think this happened recently with like a weather lady now that it
04:10comes to mind, but they all think we're going to go absolutely insane.
04:13And we can't just be mature and say goodbye to our audience as if we don't want to
04:17ruin our next professional.
04:19So if Ryan Clark did find out, unfortunately that he was going to like, Oh, you
04:24couldn't have let him finish NFL live.
04:26Like he was going to hop in the middle of his Buffalo bills, take and say FESPN.
04:31Like, I don't understand why corporations feel the need to do that.
04:35But I also think it's wrong to not let somebody do like a proper send off and
04:39kind of like say their goodbyes and like close that chapter.
04:42Yes.
04:42I don't understand that.
04:43And maybe I'm projecting.
04:45Cause I would love, I would love one day if, if I was told today, Hey Tobes, nice
04:49knowing you, dude, we're out of here.
04:50All right.
04:51Uh, I'm like, Oh, can I do a final show?
04:54Absolutely not.
04:54No kick rocks.
04:55At the end of the day, social media exists.
04:59You'll have your time to speak your truth.
05:02It does.
05:03But you know, I understand what you're saying there waiting out for it to, I understand
05:07what you're saying there, but I also think that there is a romanticism to you.
05:12People tune into your show, not necessarily social media all the time.
05:15No, I agree with that.
05:16But I'm saying like, what are they trying to avoid when you can do the same thing on
05:20your social media?
05:22Everybody's afraid of getting sued.
05:23Jennifer, everybody's afraid of getting sued.
05:25Everybody's afraid of, uh, and it, to me, it's almost like protecting the perfect game.
05:30You know, it's like, you're, you're, you're looking out for a disaster when disaster could
05:35strike anyway, like leaking a introductory press conference and, or you will hold out
05:41Max Meyer for a start and he still gets his neck hurt.
05:43Like you can't put, you know, you, you think it's going to go all ideal and it probably
05:47won't.
05:50So I don't understand why they had to pull them off the show.
05:53Um, as far as like, cause it's like, oh, well you need, we need to tell them before
05:58media does.
06:00Look, I can't really explain the only jobs I've ever lost has basically been, and I've
06:07been blessed, have been getting ghosted like for other gigs, you know, like I'm either
06:11doing something for another network and they just stop calling you.
06:14That's usually how I get laid off or just told, we don't want you to work for us anymore.
06:19I've never had the sit down again.
06:21It will happen one day likely, but, um, would it matter to me?
06:27I can't really say, would it matter to me if Glenn fired me or if Barry Jackson told me
06:31I was getting fired?
06:32I don't know.
06:33I think, I think the news is the news.
06:35I don't know if it's going to hit me differently either way.
06:38I think when ultimately like you think, I think this is how I feel.
06:43I can't say how it feel, but I think finding out that I'm just losing my job, whether it's
06:49from Barry Jackson or from Glenn, same seas to me.
06:53I don't think so.
06:54I think so.
06:55I think you're saying that.
06:56I don't know.
06:56I think he, I think he would start yelling.
06:59I don't think so.
07:00I don't think I would.
07:00He wouldn't yell.
07:01I don't think I would yell.
07:02I couldn't yell at Glenn cause you know, I'd feel like I'd, I'd make him tear up and
07:06then luckily, you know, he's not going to, I mean, unless I think he was, unless that's
07:09your retirement present.
07:10I don't know.
07:10Exactly.
07:11Unless that's, he's not going to be the one to do it, which is actually going to be different.
07:14It'll probably be some unknown suit or new suit.
07:16It probably would pain him more to do it than he would definitely.
07:19Maybe that's why he's leaving.
07:20Yeah.
07:21Maybe that's why.
07:21No, maybe that's why.
07:23Why are you like putting this into like the universe?
07:27What's going on?
07:28She says, we all know it's going to end up as a Slater scoop.
07:30Yeah.
07:31Nobody cares.
07:31Like, I don't, I personally wouldn't care if I found it.
07:34If Barry Jackson leaked the news to me and he found out from somebody that I was, I was
07:38getting let go.
07:39If he reached out to me, I'd be like, Oh, I can't believe honestly, didn't let me know
07:42first.
07:43I found out from Barry.
07:44It's like, I'm going to be miserable anyway.
07:46I lost my dream job.
07:48You know, like it's, I don't think that there's, I don't understand.
07:51So I guess what I'm saying is I don't understand the, the media's need to rush anymore.
07:55The world moves faster.
07:57I know that nobody wants to find out that they get traded or fired or laid off, but we got
08:02to realize we don't live in the old world anymore.
08:04This is not, Oh, we can protect everything very clearly.
08:07We can't keep any secrets.
08:08The heat just leaked that we're getting LeBron James.
08:09So I'm just telling you, I think I don't, I don't know.
08:14I can't say how it'd feel.
08:15Cause I've never been technically laid off.
08:17I've only been ignored to told, stop going back to gigs, but I kind of feel like whether
08:21it was Barry Jackson or somebody else telling me, or it was Glenn or whatever suit it'll
08:26be at that time, I don't think I would care.
08:29I think I would just take the news and move on.
08:31Now I would, of course we all, they're never going to let you do it.
08:35Of course we'd all love to leave on our terms and get to do something.
08:38Cause I've been somewhere, you know, 17 years, even though technically it's been other radio
08:43stations, I've been under the hub of the umbrella, whatever the mergers have been.
08:47So, you know, I get it.
08:50You guys think that you want to protect from the craziness.
08:52You should have let him finish his gig.
08:53It was stupid, like the idea that Ryan Clark was going to go crazy talking about, I don't
08:59know, whatever the best rookies are for the Minnesota Vikings on NFL live is asinine.
09:04Of course he could have done a professional job.
09:05So I think we got to be silly.
09:07We got to stop being silly with this and, uh, you know, just let people finish out their
09:12jobs normally.
09:13And however they find out they're getting fired, trust me, they're going to be pissed either
09:16way.
09:17But I, but I think we are all mostly grown adults.
09:20And for the most part, we can all say that, you know, we could do a professional job because
09:26look, at the end of the day, whenever I do get laid off, if you guys did want, I'm just
09:30saying, whenever I did get laid off, um, you could just go over there on that side of the
09:36board and just be like, boom, turn me off.
09:37Like, it's not that it's not that there's buttons for that.
09:39That's true.
09:40There are buttons straight to commercial.
09:42So anyway, so this is, uh, this is what it is.
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