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00:30At sa conference ni Vice President Sara Duterte ang ipinalabas habang nakasalang sa cross-examination ang testigo ng prosekusyon na
00:39si John Mark Calilong, senior agent ng National Bureau of Investigation.
00:44Ipinalabas nila ang bahagi kung saan umalma ang chief of staff ng BICE na si Atty. Zolaica Lopez sa plano
00:52noon ng kamera na ilipat siya sa Women's Correctional.
00:55To transfer me to the Women's Correctional in the dead of the night. I mean, bakit gano'n? Wala na
01:03bang rights yung mga tao?
01:05They just go to your room and then just get... My life is being treated. Dahil natakot ako, I feared
01:13for my life.
01:14Kasabay niyan ay ang paghimay ng depensa sa accuracy ng transcript ni Calilong.
01:20Diit ni Calilong tama ang transcript.
01:23The press conference of VP Sara Duterte, that the transcription of the screen-recorded video of the press conference of
01:32VP Sara Duterte on 23 November 2024 was faithfully transcribed by you.
01:39Yes, sir.
01:39She said, I am not leaving this room. I am a detainee here. Does your transcript have the words, a
01:48detainee?
01:49That part that the detainee is unaudible?
01:52Your Honor, please. Now, I am now registering my objection.
01:55How can it be relevant assuming but not conceding that these two minuscule words, detainee and accused, are not reflected
02:03in the transcript?
02:05When in fact, this witness said he investigated not only on the basis of the transcript but on the basis
02:11of the video that he himself viewed.
02:13Overruled part of cross to test the accuracy and the truthfulness of the witness in so...
02:18Si Senator Judge Riza Ontiveros, tinanong ang depensa kung ano ang plano ng pagpapalabas ng mga ito.
02:25Sinasabi po ba ng depensa na yung mga alleged threats or alleged incitements ni VP Duterte ay prompted nung detention
02:39ni Attorney Lopez?
02:41Yes, Your Honor.
02:41There was a systematic oppression made by the House of Representatives.
02:47Even if she was answering the questions faithfully and to the best of her ability, she was cited in contempt,
02:57detained.
02:58Her lawyer was not allowed to be with her when they were trying to detain her in the Women's Correctional
03:12Facility, Your Honor.
03:13Position po ba ng depensa na pwedeng palampasin ang alleged grave threats kung may masasabing lehitimong dahilan para magbanta?
03:32Nagpaalala si Escudero.
03:34We would like to remind the Senator Judges to be cautious in making counsels for either party make conclusions of
03:43law and fact
03:43instead of presenting evidence through a witness they will present or through direct, cross, redirect or recross.
03:53Because if he answers, that would effectively place on record a conclusion of fact and law not drawn from a
04:02witness,
04:04which they can very well do so during their closing remarks.
04:06Sa cross-examination, sinubukan ng depensa na questionin ang kredibilidad ni Kalilong na naatasang mag-imbestiga sa sinasabing video ng
04:16pagbabanta.
04:17Tanong ng depensa, nagsampa ba ng reklamong kriminal ang Pangulo o sino man sa umano'y pinagbantaan?
04:25I have no personal knowledge.
04:28Did you really investigate this case?
04:30Oh, you're an argumentative.
04:31Did you really investigate?
04:34Sa pagtatanong ng depensa, sinabi rin ni Kalilong na hindi kinuna ng NBI ng affidavit ang umano'y mga pinagbantaan.
04:43Ilang personalidad lang daw ang nakuna ng affidavit dahil nakita ang mga pangalan nila sa video.
04:49Nagtanong din si Sen. Judge Alan Peter Kayatano.
04:53In your reports, did you characterize it as a conditional threat?
04:57Kasi kung hindi naman siya pinatay, the logical implication is that there's no threat against the...
05:03So I'm not saying it's not illegal, immoral to contract a killer.
05:08It wasn't a conditional in your mind because may kinausap na.
05:14Even with or without threat, it's still considered a threat as long as the...
05:18But your initial assessment, yung personal mo as an investigator, this is an investigation of the whole NBI but yung
05:24personal mo?
05:25The threat is absolute, sir.
05:28Pinresenta rin ng depensa ang ilang dokumentong nagpapakita sa ilang komunikasyon ng Justice Department at NBI
05:35kaugnay sa investigasyon ng kaso.
05:37Hirit ng depensa.
05:38The NBI investigated and filed the complaint.
05:42The DOJ directed the investigation and will determine whether the case should proceed to court.
05:49And the alleged offended party, President Marcos, is the constitutional head of the executive branch,
05:56exercising control over both the DOJ and the NBI.
06:00I would draw, yung...
06:00I would draw, yung...
06:01I would draw, yung...
06:03I would draw, yung...
06:03It's...
06:03Oh, your honor.
06:04It's even more compound question asking several subject matters.
06:08Withdraw.
06:10Sir, panahidin ang pag-object ng prosecution.
06:12Sir, the NBI, of course you're from the NBI, is under the Department of Justice.
06:18Yes, sir.
06:18Your honor, we can take judicial notice of that.
06:21Your honor.
06:23If...
06:23I'm uncross, your honor.
06:24I know, but there are things that may not be discussed.
06:27Your honor, please.
06:27Can I, your honor?
06:28Your honor, please.
06:29Counsel, let's give him some latitude.
06:31The Secretary of Justice is, meanwhile, the head of the DOJ.
06:34Correct?
06:35Yes, sir.
06:37It's the Secretary of Justice exercises control and supervision over the NBI.
06:43Yes, but even...
06:44No, no more questions.
06:46The witness is answering.
06:47Yes or no witness, if you know.
06:50Can you repeat, sir?
06:51Mr. Witness?
06:52The Secretary of Justice exercises control and supervision over the NBI.
06:57Yes or no?
06:59We are under, sir.
07:01But we're independent.
07:02So you do not know?
07:04Oh, your honor, that's argumentative.
07:06So you do not know?
07:07You claimed in your affidavit, sir, that...
07:12Affidavit of investigation, that the NBI began its investigation into the VP's remarks
07:17because it was directed by the DOJ to do so.
07:22Motoproprio and directed, sir.
07:23Okay.
07:27Do you understand what you just said, sir?
07:29Oh.
07:29Yes, sir.
07:29Oh.
07:30Can I object to that, your honor, please?
07:32I'm asking, sir.
07:33It makes sense, sir.
07:34Argumentative, counsel.
07:35Move on.
07:37Mutoproprio, sir, means...
07:39Oh, no, objection.
07:40You cannot lecture, counsel.
07:42This is cross-examination.
07:43You mentioned mutoproprio.
07:45What does it mean?
07:46Even without a complainant, we started the investigation, sir.
07:50Are you sure, sir?
07:51Oh, argumentative.
07:52Are you sure, sir?
07:54Move on, counsel.
07:55Are you sure, sir?
07:56Ilang beses na magitan ang presiding officer.
07:59The witness is not a newbie.
08:01I think he can handle himself and would know how to answer if indeed he is familiar or not with
08:07what is being presented to him.
08:09And thus far, he has responded based on his knowledge of these documents.
08:15Chair will allow it.
08:16Ang prosecution, kumpiyansa rao na hindi nabasag ng defense team ni Duterte ang testimonya ng testigong si Kalilong.
08:25Kaya rao hindi na sila nag-redirect examination o muling nagtanong kay Kalilong.
08:31Anila, nasagot ni Kalilong ang mga tanong ng depensa kahit nang questionin ang kanyang kredibilidad.
08:37Lahat naman po ng kanilang katanungan ay nasagot ni John Mark Kalilong from questions regarding his training,
08:48questions regarding the investigation he conducted,
08:52and questions regarding the threats which he investigated.
08:57In fact, ang last statement po ni Agent John Mark Kalilong ay yung threats po ay absolute.
09:06Kumpiyansa naman ng depensa na nagawa nila ang target,
09:09nasuriin ang kredibilidad ng unang testigo ng prosecution.
09:13Anila, ito ay para malaman kung may kakayaan siyang magbigay ng testimonya.
09:18Ang sinasabi naman ay siya ay hindi expert but competent witness.
09:22So we were just really, in every cross-examination, we always test the credibility of the witness
09:28to be able to determine if the witness is in fact capable of making the testimonies that he or she
09:34is making.
09:35So that's just part of it.
09:36Pero I don't want to form conclusions because that's for the impeachment court to do.
09:42Sa susunod na linggo, nakatakdang ipresenta ng prosecution ang susunod nilang testigo.
09:49Ito ang unang balita. Sandra Aguinaldo, GMA News.
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