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00:01I'm just a Hollywood stuntman in between pictures.
00:03I've done a number of shows, and of all the shows,
00:06they include Bagnum P.I. and Quincy and a lot of others, Knight Rider.
00:11I think probably the most fun show of all of them was The Fall Guy.
00:20Man, I can't believe this guy's luck.
00:21Well, his luck just ran out.
00:26There was a big trend in the 80s about being interested in stuntmen.
00:32So, I mean, the appetite was there for a stunt show.
00:41We didn't sell this in a conventional way.
00:44This is the most unusual pitch that ever took place in television.
00:48A friend of mine who was the lead singer in a group called The Diamonds
00:52who had 27 gold records back in the old days.
00:56And I had started in a singing group, too, and we knew each other well.
00:59He had done some little stunt thing.
01:01In 1979, I wrote a theme for a CBS television special about stuntmen.
01:08There I was a year later as a guest of my friend Glenn Larson in Hawaii,
01:12and I had one song in my guitar case.
01:15And I was off in the corner singing this tune to myself,
01:19and he wandered by and said,
01:21what are you singing?
01:22I've been on fire with Sally Field
01:25Gone past with a girl named Bo
01:27But somehow they just don't end up as mine
01:31And I listened to it, and I said, you know, that's a great idea.
01:35By the time I'd finished, he'd gotten the idea for a television show about stuntmen.
01:40I might fall from a tall building
01:43I might roll a brand new car
01:46Cause the unknown's coming
01:48And made Redford such a star
01:51We went to ABC television over in Century City
01:55and a couple of fellows who were empowered to buy
01:58listened to his idea.
02:01We took this idea of this song
02:03and instead of going in and pitching anything,
02:05we just went in and sang the song.
02:06Actually, I opened the meeting with the song that we had written,
02:10which was then retitled to be
02:14The Ballad of the Unknown Stuntman.
02:16Cause come on the unknown stuntman
02:19It makes Eastwood look so fine
02:22At the end of the singing of the song, they said,
02:25go write the pilot.
02:27Although Glenn had nothing on paper.
02:29It was probably the most perfect pitch
02:31and the most easy pitch I've ever had in my life.
02:34Kid stuntmen live by rule of thumb.
02:36Any stunt they can walk away from, they're a winner.
02:39I ran into Lee Majors in an airport
02:41and I had worked with Lee on The Six Million Dollar Man.
02:44I developed that show.
02:45I was really ready to do something different
02:47because it was very tough.
02:49I didn't want to still be known as just The Six Million Dollar Man.
02:52So I tried to get rid of that typecast
02:54and I thought, well, if I do one more series for five years,
02:58maybe they'll kind of forget the other one.
03:00So we stood there, he was going one place
03:02and I was going another.
03:03And we made the deal in the terminal.
03:06He really hadn't written the script yet
03:07and it was story ideas and storyline
03:10and it sounded like fun and very interesting
03:14and I know Glenn, Glenn writes good stuff.
03:19It's me, Cole Cedars, your friendly neighborhood bounty hunter.
03:21You dirty rock!
03:23Everybody wanted to find a way to do the bounty hunter show.
03:28It's a great franchise.
03:30Here's your expense money and photograph.
03:31Good luck.
03:34You know, Big Jack, this time I think you made a bad deal.
03:37Why?
03:38Because I would have gone after this guy for nothing.
03:40Being the bounty hunter was something that we added
03:43that was, you know, made it, give it some more jeopardy
03:46because you can't do a show on a stuntman.
03:48You have to have him doing something on the sideline
03:50because most stuntmen do other jobs on the side.
03:54Pauline, I'd like to help you, but I'm a bounty hunter.
03:56I only go after a man if there's a court order to bring him back.
03:59The premise of the show was so flexible.
04:02A guy has to go out and bring someone back
04:04who's bailed out on the criminal justice system.
04:07You know, jump, bail and run.
04:10They have abilities to do things no policeman can do.
04:13It's based on an old law from the 1800s.
04:17Cole, maybe you better explain something to me.
04:19Well, if you look in the glove box, you'll find a federal law
04:21that defines legal restrictions in going after a dangerous fugitive.
04:25Wow, Cole, according to this, you don't need warrants or court orders or anything.
04:29Yeah, that's a good thing.
04:30Those fugitives usually don't wait around for you to get help.
04:33It's a pretty simple show, you know.
04:35It was, uh, this is the bad guy, go get him.
04:38Do all this goofy stuff to get him, put on costumes.
04:41But I wouldn't recommend you try anything until I come to a complete stop.
04:47It was kind of like Scooby-Doo, only we weren't detectives.
04:52Cole, that was far and away the most exciting stunt I've ever seen in my life.
04:56Yeah, well, it felt pretty good.
04:57Thought I'd died and gone to hell.
04:59We'll see you on the next picture.
05:00The pilot was a joy because it just came together,
05:03and we kept evolving it even during the pilot.
05:06You know, we found some other ideas and what we could do.
05:09You're supposed to be in that fancy eastern college.
05:11Yeah, well, I bet.
05:11The Ivy League taught me everything I need to know
05:13about being rich and famous like you.
05:14I learned it all, Cole.
05:16Rich and famous like me, you ain't learned it all.
05:19To see Lee Majors, who had been a robot for so long,
05:22or that really kind of stoic character on the Big Valley,
05:26he was very self-effacing in the show.
05:30And I think that delighted people.
05:32And we opened with him in a bathtub with the bubble bath with a little duck, you know,
05:36and he's cigar in his mouth.
05:38And his bathtub's outside.
05:41And it's based on a real true place that my friend from the Diamonds lived in on top of the
05:46mountain.
05:46This isn't a shed, it's my house.
05:50That's your house?
05:51This house in which we now sit and reside became the set for the Fall Guy.
05:57They remade the inside of the house.
06:00Where are you going?
06:02To go get Joe.
06:07Don't pack that thing unless you're expecting trouble.
06:09It's a movie gun, Jody, three-quarter load blanks.
06:12I only pack it to impress people.
06:14We spiced up the pilot with a lot of pretty wonderful guest stars.
06:18All right.
06:20Which one of you is the liar?
06:22You know, judging from that handsome picture on the wall out there,
06:25you must be Sheriff Kramer.
06:27And you'd be Colt Seavers, huh?
06:29That's right.
06:30We had James Colburn, who was a friend of mine,
06:32who I approached and asked if he would do a cameo.
06:34He said yes.
06:36Colt!
06:38Listen, man, that was fantastic, that stuff.
06:41You've got to be insane.
06:44Yeah, you're welcome, Jim.
06:45Good luck with the rest of the picture.
06:47We all need help, those guys.
06:50Major psychiatric help.
06:51There was a young lady named Farrah something
06:54that I approached and asked if she would do a cameo,
06:58which she agreed to.
07:00You taking care of yourself?
07:01Well, I always do.
07:03No, you don't.
07:04I know you.
07:05Remember?
07:06Ready on the set.
07:09We just had an abundance of fun.
07:12Lee was part of the genesis of the show,
07:14and we talked, and we would, as I was developing,
07:16it's a collaboration.
07:19Lee had a very big hand in the show.
07:21Great at taking control of the set.
07:23I'd say he and Jim Garner are two of the best in the business
07:26at having a team in which everybody likes everybody.
07:30When you got a producer on the set,
07:32I was there for almost every shot.
07:35Then you see what's going on,
07:36you see how it's going slow,
07:38or not getting done in certain ways.
07:41He basically said, be on time.
07:43Don't bump into the furniture.
07:44Know your lines.
07:45We're not going for the envelope.
07:46We're going for the parking lot,
07:47so just talk fast, because when you stop, I start.
07:49So it was a benefit for Glenn being in the office,
07:53and for me being on the set.
07:54It worked well.
07:55These stuntmen are definitely not all there.
07:58You all set, Colt?
08:00Ready as I'll ever be.
08:02I think it was one of the first shows
08:03that showed behind the scenes
08:05as far as stunts were concerned.
08:07Good luck, Jody.
08:07They didn't have extras on CDs in those days
08:11that would show you the making of,
08:13and they never even thought the public
08:15would even be interested in the making of.
08:17That was something Glenn touched on.
08:22Coming up on you, Jody.
08:26Interesting thing about the show
08:28is that in all the time we did a show
08:30which was based on stunts,
08:32we never had any accidents.
08:34We just didn't have any problems.
08:36And we're doing some really tricky stunts.
08:39Open your door.
08:40Get ready for a quick exit.
08:50The part I liked about it
08:51was representing the Hollywood stuntmen
08:53and a chance to do a lot of stunts.
09:01General Motors was very generous with us.
09:02They gave us a lot of trucks
09:04because that truck was always jumping something.
09:07I remember one of the first days we did it,
09:09it jumped some curb thing, some minor thing,
09:12and came down, broke both axles.
09:14All four wheels are going off in different directions.
09:17We were going through so many trucks
09:18that they said, there's got to be a better way.
09:21So they moved the engine back underneath the seat,
09:26which gave it the balance,
09:27which when you went up you could land it.
09:29And not only that, it wouldn't damage it so much
09:32that you couldn't go right around and do it again.
09:37The first time they gave me that gigantic truck
09:39and they put a little tiny mark,
09:40like it looked like a dime,
09:43about 200 yards away.
09:44And they said, okay, just do a four wheel slide
09:46and put your right front tire on that at a 45 degree angle.
09:48It was like take 95, you know,
09:52but I learned how to do it.
09:54Hi, Judy.
09:55Hi.
09:56I met Heather Thomas at Universal.
09:59I had worked for Glenn on a pilot or two
10:03and done some guest stars on a couple of his shows.
10:06I just liked her work.
10:07I thought she was very, very good.
10:09So when it came time to cast this show,
10:11I just took her over to ABC.
10:13I just got called in, you know,
10:14saying that Glenn wanted you to read for this role,
10:17and I read and I read and I read and I read and I read
10:19and got the part.
10:21Technically she read,
10:22but technically she had the part, you know.
10:24I didn't think they were going to find anybody better than her.
10:27She's a good old actress.
10:28Probably highly underrated in terms of that
10:31because she was so sexy.
10:32Well, I guess everybody remembers her
10:34coming through the Batwing doors.
10:35Ta-da!
10:38Everybody bought the posters.
10:39I don't know if they cared much about what the acting was like,
10:42but she was always there to deliver the goods.
10:44Sometimes that's not an easy role, you know,
10:46to be the sex symbol in a show and to be taken seriously.
10:49Unless you want to spend the night picking up your teeth,
10:51you'll watch the way you talk and look at me.
10:54Do we understand each other?
10:56Yes, ma'am. I'm all business.
10:58Doug Barr, just a very, very bright guy.
11:02And he plays this buffoon.
11:05Okay, pal.
11:06I'm sorry you did that.
11:11Doug had to play a character that was a little bit like
11:14Yale-Harvard kind of guy,
11:17and he's kind of like trying to follow Colt around,
11:19who's a tougher bounty hunter and stuntman,
11:22and he wants to be like Colt.
11:23I realize I'm just a junior partner.
11:25Can I make a suggestion?
11:27That's the only way you're going to learn, what?
11:29Let's get out of here!
11:33Your first suggestion, kid, that's excellent.
11:35Really excellent.
11:36The minute we went on the air, we took off immediately.
11:40And we went into the top ten.
11:42You know, trying to perceive how a show is being received
11:45is really, really difficult.
11:48You're not out in the public that much.
11:49I mean, I'm working 14 hours a day.
11:51It takes all your time,
11:53so you don't really get a chance to watch television,
11:55and you're not concerned with,
11:56you're just concerned with doing your work
11:58and doing it the best you can.
11:59See, you don't know about ratings.
12:01I mean, they'd say, oh, your rated number, whatever.
12:03It goes in one ear and out the other.
12:04I gotta go do the job right now.
12:06Bien, yo iré adelante rumbo al sur.
12:09Y solo quiero que sus ayudantes traten de alcanzarme.
12:12It was a terrific hit overseas.
12:14I still get a tremendous amount of mail
12:16from various places I've never even heard of.
12:19A show like that, what helps it in the foreign markets
12:23is that it's not just dialogue driven.
12:26I mean, you have some wonderful visuals
12:28which hold, you know, you don't have to have as many subtitles
12:31or whatever, or looping.
12:33Howie, en donde saliste?
12:34Porque Colt conducié el auto, no?
12:36That was always the weirdest one
12:37was watching yourself speaking a different language.
12:39No lo logrará.
12:41Now the show, it's like a James Bond movie
12:44or a movie that has a good action core to it.
12:49So, those things translate overseas very well.
12:53How'd it go?
12:54Don't ask.
12:55And don't bother with the tan.
12:57You're not expecting me to go to Architope
12:58with that one, dude.
12:59Yeah, well, we may have to postpone our trip.
13:01What?
13:02All the cast members, they got along great.
13:04Heather Thomas, Doug Barr.
13:05Everybody loved their part.
13:07The show was so much fun to go to work.
13:09It was fun to go to work.
13:11Hey, I always wanted to do this for real.
13:19Just sit there and relax.
13:30Cut!
13:31All right!
13:35Well, I'm not the kind to kiss and tell,
13:38but I've been seen with Farrah.
13:41I've never been with anything less than a man.
13:45So fine.
13:46I've been on fire with Sally Field
13:49and gone past with a girl named Bo.
13:51But somehow they just don't end up as mine.
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