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00:00:11I'm going to get some beer.
00:00:21I'm in here.
00:00:55The categories are
00:00:57This woman's runway
00:01:00Vogue film
00:01:02Butch queen up in drags
00:01:05Femme queen sex siren
00:01:07Are you ready?
00:01:09Are you bitches ready to walk for me?
00:01:12Bring it to the runway
00:01:13Now!
00:01:15How do I look?
00:01:16Just leave
00:01:17Just leave
00:01:18How do I look?
00:01:25Just leave
00:01:26Miss Delia
00:01:34Walk for me
00:01:36Bring it to the runway
00:01:39Now!
00:01:54Just leave
00:01:56Miss Delia
00:01:57How do I look?
00:02:05The ball people are black gay people that were kept out of art society and they made their own arena
00:02:12The ballroom scene is a beautiful place and it's the only place where gay men and gay women and transgenders
00:02:20can all come together as one and do something that they can enjoy doing together as a community
00:02:28The history of balls
00:02:29The history of balls, how Marie Antoinette had balls and she would toss diamonds to the winners
00:02:35The houses popped up in the early 70s, House of La Beja was the first house
00:02:39After Paris is burning, after Madonna's Bowl, then people started creating houses
00:02:45There's been over a hundred houses created so far
00:02:51A new school legend would be somebody that began their career in 1990
00:02:56Anybody from 1989 and back is old school
00:03:00So our icons are those people who go way back
00:03:051989 and before
00:03:12There's three ways that you can get a ballroom name
00:03:14Original name, a designer name and a contrived name
00:03:18House of La Beja was the first house
00:03:20In the 60s there were groupings of people
00:03:22The Spanish drag queens
00:03:24Were from Spanish Harlem
00:03:26I think they were called
00:03:28The delightful ladies
00:03:31And then they had the black drag queens
00:03:33Were called the La Chanel
00:03:34And they used to go to balls
00:03:36And battle against each other
00:03:38But only as those two groups
00:03:40Not at the house
00:03:41La Beja, La Beja, La Beja, La Beja
00:03:44The house of La Beja will rain darling
00:03:46It will always rain and there is no shade
00:03:48And for those of you that don't like it
00:03:51Learn it and learn it well
00:03:56We were friends before we got on that runway
00:03:58But once we hit that pinnacle baby
00:04:00You see me, I see you
00:04:02You don't see me, I don't see you
00:04:04May the best man win
00:04:08A perfect ball would be
00:04:09Hot performers
00:04:12Great categories
00:04:13And a great setting
00:04:14And a great opening presentation
00:04:16By the house that's pulling it off
00:04:27The balls are set up where you have a panel of judges
00:04:30Who score you from one to ten
00:04:32Ten being the highest
00:04:33Balls have maybe twenty categories
00:04:36Some have fifty
00:04:37These new cities that are operating balls
00:04:39Like Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta
00:04:42They accept it real quick
00:04:45New York gave Philadelphia
00:04:46A hard way to go
00:04:48When they first came onto the ball scene
00:04:50In 1989
00:04:55When I started walking balls
00:04:57When I started walking balls
00:04:57This was years ago
00:04:59And they were up in Harlem
00:05:00It was very low key
00:05:02The balls used to start around
00:05:04Four o'clock in the morning sometimes
00:05:09Used to come out at nine o'clock in the morning people were going to work
00:05:21They are real
00:05:22Thank you
00:05:27The categories vary from best dressed man to best dressed woman
00:05:30To female body to male body to transsexuals trying to walk and pretend that they are not a man
00:05:44Some of the winnings are cash
00:05:46Some of the winnings are cash
00:05:47Some of the winnings are cash and some are just trophies
00:05:48The presence that we carry
00:05:51The aura that we have around us
00:05:54It takes charge
00:05:55That you know that it's like if you're floating
00:05:58Like you're an angel and you just walked in
00:05:59And you're the most beautiful thing in the world
00:06:01There's a language
00:06:03Involved in the drag ball words
00:06:04Certain words that are not relevant to anything else
00:06:07There's certain type of music
00:06:09There's certain dress
00:06:10There's modes of character
00:06:12Behavior, looks, styles and name systems
00:06:14To me the balls is an outlet
00:06:16It is a soapbox for anybody who wants to express themselves
00:06:20In the gay community that may not be able to do it at home
00:06:23Thus far that's where the houses come from
00:06:24And you have parents, mothers and fathers
00:06:26The purpose of the mother and the father of a house is
00:06:29Find the right kids to compete with
00:06:32Teach them, work with them
00:06:35Care for them like if they were actually our own
00:06:44I'm the legendary icon, Kenny Nisha Ebony
00:06:49And I'm just here to tell you a little about the ballroom history
00:06:53And how legend statements and stars developed
00:06:55It was that Ira and Dwayne Aphrodite ball
00:06:59At the baseline
00:07:00They were running
00:07:01They were pressed for time
00:07:02And people was coming into the ballroom
00:07:04And the ballroom was packed
00:07:05So they came to me and got very
00:07:07Kenny, could you do something that would keep the kids occupied
00:07:11Until we're ready for grand march?
00:07:13So I said okay
00:07:14So I went out there and I told the DJ
00:07:15Give me a beat
00:07:17And while I was sitting there I said
00:07:18Well I want to introduce something new to the people
00:07:21Something we're going to call legends, statements and stars
00:07:27By having the roll call of legends, statements and stars
00:07:30Gives everyone a chance to see who are some of the competitors in the ballroom scene
00:07:39Because it was a matter of need, they created this house system
00:07:48It became a creative outlet to live that superstar, supermodel moment under extreme competitive circumstances
00:08:01Some live this fantasy world everyday
00:08:05Some take their talents to the real world
00:08:07Like Jose, Tracy and Willie
00:08:09And some take it as a form of entertainment and leave it like that
00:08:17Living out on the edge prepares them for life
00:08:20And through their talents and achievements, they build their self-esteem
00:08:30At Balls, the entire community has the opportunity to participate
00:08:35And to showcase their talents on the runway
00:08:44When I take straight people to Balls
00:08:47I have to let them know that there are men in there that look like women
00:08:51And it is an illusion
00:08:53And sometimes they see someone who looks good and they'll say
00:08:56You know, Jamie, she looks good, can you get her number for me?
00:08:59And I'll have to let them know, nice and easy, honey, she's a man
00:09:05I'm 40 years old right now and I think I'm aging pretty gracefully
00:09:09That's why I tell these girls when it comes to being the person that I am
00:09:13Stay off drugs
00:09:15Because you'll be happy in the long run
00:09:17Say hi puppy, this is Picasso extravaganza
00:09:20Oh, he's the next lover too, huh?
00:09:22Of course
00:09:23Just like mother
00:09:27I was chosen by only one person
00:09:29To become the mother of this house
00:09:31And that was the mother herself, Angie
00:09:34There was no question if it's about it
00:09:37As far as they were going to have a meeting to see who the mother was
00:09:40Angie already knew that she wanted me as mother
00:09:43You go from boy to femme queen
00:09:46I started taking hormones at the age of 16
00:09:50Then at 18 I got castrated
00:09:52You go through electrolysis
00:09:54You have a lot of hair in your face
00:09:56I didn't, I had peach fudge
00:09:57So I just took care of that
00:09:58And once you get castrated, everything falls in place
00:10:01So if you're a little skinny boy and you're still feminine
00:10:04And you get castrated, you're basically a woman
00:10:07Makeup comes from within me
00:10:10What I want to create in this face
00:10:13What colors I want to add
00:10:15What beauty I want to bring out
00:10:17Like Octavia always say, that wicked beauty
00:10:20My stages of transformation was
00:10:23I was a boy
00:10:25Name
00:10:26Name?
00:10:27You want my name?
00:10:28My boy's name?
00:10:30Never
00:10:31I would never give you my boy's name
00:10:34And I'm a junior, mind you
00:10:40The gay kids in different house families
00:10:43We want to do this because this keeps us together
00:10:45Angie always told me, keep the flame going
00:10:47Don't let it die
00:10:48You know, so I try to do that for my house
00:10:50The house of extravaganza was the first Latino house
00:10:53You just have to look that essence
00:10:56We see it, we feel it, we smell it
00:11:06Why does it end up so many talented people in the boy community?
00:11:10Because it just comes out
00:11:11People want to be creative, people want to show what they can do
00:11:19Do you feel comfortable with your sexuality?
00:11:21Oh my god, you just don't know how comfortable
00:11:23I am so comfortable, I am happy
00:11:27Very comfortable
00:11:29To be a femme queen and to come off
00:11:32To come off unclockable
00:11:36That is over
00:11:37That is complete over
00:11:46How we received our status is
00:11:50Is through
00:11:52Being drags
00:11:54From drags converting into transsexuals
00:11:57From transsexuals converting ourselves
00:11:59And being labeled femme queens
00:12:01Because we are what people come to see
00:12:15I am truly proud to be what I am
00:12:17I wouldn't be a female
00:12:19I wouldn't be a man
00:12:20If I had the choice
00:12:21And if I
00:12:22And God willing
00:12:23If I have to come back on this earth
00:12:24I want to come back a third gender
00:12:26I refuse to come back anything else
00:12:28Because I am so in tuned with who I am
00:12:32They're afraid of me
00:12:33Because I'm
00:12:34I'm much more extraordinary
00:12:35I'm much more exciting
00:12:36I'm much more beautiful
00:12:37I'm much more enchanting
00:12:39I have powers of a man
00:12:40And the charm of a woman
00:12:42And that's dangerous
00:12:43Octavia's my first gay daughter
00:12:47That little bitch used to give me a hard time
00:12:54I'm strong and I keep saying
00:12:56You know the devil is always trying ways
00:12:58To make me feel like I'm nothing
00:13:01And I won't allow it
00:13:02I'm your boy
00:13:03I'm your girl
00:13:06Queen of the underground
00:13:09Mistress of the underworld
00:13:11Mistress of the underworld
00:13:12The underworld
00:13:13The underworld
00:13:14The underworld
00:13:16The day that you're born
00:13:17A candle is lit
00:13:18To guide and protect you
00:13:20To give you wisdom and wit
00:13:22The past you must choose wisely
00:13:24You must follow them right
00:13:25it's up to you to choose the past into the darkness or into the light beyond
00:13:31sight body and soul a power is passed God's powerful voices shall reveal thy
00:13:37task if you should succeed in life your task has just begun for you shall now
00:13:44know God has claimed you to be the chosen one
00:13:50transsexuals was a New York City deal I was only 18 and Carmen was 19 this is me in
00:13:561985 that's Cindy Crawford that's me that's Diane DeWitt the doctors were
00:14:03better the surgeons were better the the hormones were better and the
00:14:10transsexuals were considered the most beautiful in the world so because of this
00:14:16loss of transsexuals from other countries was coming here because where they
00:14:20from they weren't getting the satisfaction of becoming women as they were but when
00:14:26I was growing up there weren't many transsexuals there were more third
00:14:30genders and this is what I was brought up to learn now there are very little
00:14:35third genders because half of them have already died from AIDS because of their
00:14:39lack of education because of their lack of family values because of their lack of
00:14:43morals and principles and family and friends support these people had no
00:14:48knowledge of anything and anything they had to learn they had to learn
00:14:51themselves and some of them had to die learning it a lot of these girls think
00:14:56that if they get a vagina or they go to some doctor let them cut off their
00:14:59penises and make it into a hole that they can live the lives as a woman and they
00:15:05can get married and maybe adopt children this is every transgender's fantasy to
00:15:10have a rich white man I don't understand that but they fail to realize truth does
00:15:18not change no matter how much you cut it up no matter how much you camouflage it
00:15:25now how much you deny it truth cannot change and that sends them over into a
00:15:33self-destructive pattern after they've decided to do the things in their life and
00:15:39they realize that now after the operation they're nothing as opposed before they
00:15:46were special and then no one was to tell to help them recognize that no one was
00:15:51around to let them know what you are is magnificent you're so busy fighting hating
00:16:02yourself because society has made you believe that you are nothing that you
00:16:11actually became nothing by having this operation
00:16:16I declare the floor we are here to serve it more there our house stands from back to door
00:16:25children watch us grow who cannot help you endure
00:16:32me being a third gender I don't know what it is to be a man as far as a physical
00:16:37attribute I never looked like a man
00:16:40and trust me my whole life I've tried until I got to a point where I had to
00:16:45accept myself for who I am and was what I am I don't know what it's like to grow a
00:16:49mustache I don't know what it's like to grow a beard I don't know what it's like to
00:16:53be big I don't know what it's like to have a muscular body and trust me my whole
00:16:59life I have worked at it I couldn't stand myself for being this freak of nature that
00:17:05everybody so visually reminded me of every day of my life when I was growing
00:17:10up balls meant something it meant that you were the best it made you work hard at
00:17:16everything it took it taught you about discipline and respecting yourself and
00:17:22having ambitions to do something that you thought would be impossible
00:17:28let's just go beyond the world the underworld the underworld their agenda is
00:17:34basically you born with more female hormones than male and you don't have to do
00:17:39anything to make yourself look like a woman because only God knows you're a man but
00:17:45you look just like a girl people are still concerned about what's between my legs
00:17:49instead of knowing and I said to him you know we could just be friends he was
00:17:53even too conservative to be my friend
00:18:12I don't understand people and how weak and insecure men are or women are but they
00:18:19can't even confront me as an individual without looking at me as some sort of
00:18:23sex toy that they're attracted to and they're trying to avoid it by treating me
00:18:28like I'm absolutely nothing and I was totally overwhelmed it really took me for a
00:18:33loop I'm strong and I keep saying you know I can't let that bring me down
00:18:46when you're young you have no fear because you're naive to a lot of things but as I started making
00:18:52money in the fashion business and became more and more popular slowly an insecurity set in is today's
00:19:02day that people will find out about Tracy and who she really is and if so how will
00:19:11they accept that
00:19:17back in the 70s I started out as a model and I was discovered by Irving Penn and my first
00:19:25contract was with
00:19:26Clairol and I was on their hair color boxes and I signed another contract with
00:19:33Ultra Sheen Cosmetics
00:19:40the third contract that I signed here in New York was with the Avon skin care products
00:19:48when they were promoting a new line for women of color I lasted for at least two and a half
00:19:54years in New York City
00:19:56before someone actually found out and what happened was a part of the history the doors closed
00:20:08the frontet showed the doors open spot
00:20:19sometimes tonight
00:20:22you should walk up W
00:20:25the house is like a family you know a home I mean for us has always been
00:20:31that I mean we always have been and tried to be very family orientated
00:20:36whereas okay this one doesn't have a place to go here come with me you know
00:20:41you don't have an outfit here wear this or have any money to get into the ball
00:20:45or for whatever here you know you're hungry here you know let's eat a lot of
00:20:50kids you know their parents don't accept the lifestyle that they've chosen to live
00:20:56and which is where we come in and we try to we try to fill voids for each other
00:21:04I may have an emptiness inside of me maybe of a of a brother that I never had
00:21:09one of my Gansa brothers will fill in you know to the fullest and it'll make me
00:21:14feel like wow this is really my family I'm all about love peace and respect I
00:21:21love helping people and that's what makes me you know want to come back but
00:21:26besides just voguing dancing and carrying on because these people
00:21:30supported me and you know they gave me attention and love and respect and that's
00:21:36what I usually don't get in the outside world
00:21:40a house is an organization more like a game it's a gay game they protect each
00:21:49other they watch each other's backs it's a really good place good you know people
00:21:55to be with and it's very important to know who legends are because they teach
00:22:01you how it's done I think I'm like one of the youngest people my age and I'm like
00:22:07really going up in the ballroom team I'm not bragging but I think it's true and it
00:22:13makes me kind of feel good because you know like I have people out in public oh well that's
00:22:18Roxy a lot of kids don't get along with their parents so we're like foster parents so they're able to
00:22:23come talk to us about their problems
00:22:25and we like to give them guidance in life too like making sure they have a job
00:22:29making sure they go to school
00:22:34my advice to parents with a child like Octavia is not to fight them it's not going to
00:22:41help help them in every way and love them I call my mom I'll get in contact with my
00:22:54father and we always start and end our conversations with I love you and that is
00:22:59right there just I love that because I need that support in my life I would do
00:23:03anything for her because she's done everything for me she's given me
00:23:10inspiration why because my mother's wheelchair bound but she's never stopped
00:23:13her the first ball I ever walked she was there to support it was my sophomore year
00:23:191995 roughly February and when I ran away from my mother and for that whole year of
00:23:261995 she was so upset at me she couldn't believe that her baby left her and I felt
00:23:32bad that I did that to her but I had to do it because I wanted to follow my
00:23:37dreams I wanted to educate myself better and I felt like I was going to be able
00:23:41to do that in New York my own family had thrown me out and you know they weren't
00:23:46really you know my parents or my brothers and sisters but to me they were you
00:23:52know in life you learned that your friends are your family and and they're the ones
00:23:56who made me who I am today my dad on the other hand was a little rough on me he
00:24:04didn't understand what was going on too much but he's fine now my mom always knew
00:24:09you know my dad also even though it was it was never discussed never never been
00:24:18disrespected either my father was black he was a Muslim and he was very open-minded
00:24:25he was in the military he traveled the world he's been around the globe so he was
00:24:28very open-minded as far as friends they accepted me right away so I had a pretty
00:24:32pretty easy life as far as my parents were concerned they were very supportive
00:24:36of me after seven years of being a transsexual that's when I received the
00:24:39respect and the love for my mom and my dad
00:24:46I get a lot of support more from my mother and my brother more or less than my
00:24:49father but he do assist my homosexuality I have always been and always will be her
00:25:00daughter I remember the first person in my family I told that I was gay was my
00:25:06sister Michelle and I used the example of TV program that was on there was a
00:25:13character who was gay and then I had to explain to my younger sister that I'm like
00:25:18Jodi it was called so parents that have children that are going through
00:25:31transformation is to give them all the love and all the support you don't give
00:25:40them love and support you're gonna lose them they're just gonna go wild
00:25:44they're gonna be lost jewels they're gonna need all the love all the support
00:25:48that you can give them
00:25:53when I was rock bottom and I had no money nowhere to go I had to do what I had
00:25:58to do in order to maintain Angie mother infinity she has helped me so much even
00:26:05when I didn't have a place to stay she she's like come here come to my house she
00:26:09gave me my first hormone shot so that's a mother I can't make a good mother I
00:26:16support my kids I try to guide them the right way it's really hard to be
00:26:22transgender because you have to deal with a lot of criticism and a lot of
00:26:25judgment you know if you don't do it right people will put you down when I
00:26:30began hormonal treatment I went to Cal and Lord it's the health center for the
00:26:35GLBT community they didn't want to give me hormones straight off the back they
00:26:39just wanted me to go to therapy and get counseling sessions and I did
00:26:52I've always had a passion wanting to attend college I would ever since I was
00:26:57little like someone like my teachers my mom my father my family everyone they
00:27:01would always say that college is the key to success
00:27:08welcome to Syracuse University I wouldn't be able to show them that I'm in
00:27:14school right there next to you sitting right next to you in your classroom I try
00:27:18to stay strong because I want my heads into the books you know like a boyfriend
00:27:22will so distract me and so if my head is in the books I can just stay focused and
00:27:26till at least graduation
00:27:34walking balls boosts me up in terms of self-esteem then still nervous even to
00:27:40this day I'll walk the category that I slayed and conquered and I still get
00:27:45nervous
00:27:46realness can I get all the street boys in front of me now
00:27:50pulling gum too much or swaying their arms or if they act like they can't really do
00:27:55nothing with their hands like if they keep fondling with their hands and stuff
00:28:00that's not something a heterosexual male will do so I would chop them for that or you
00:28:05know just a little stuff probably the eyebrows probably arch or they
00:28:07probably wear baseball cap down too low those are signs that they hot and
00:28:11something so I would chop them for that
00:28:21when you judge a ball you're supposed to know exactly what the flyer is asking for
00:28:28I am a stickler for reading the flyer and bringing it as the flyer says when
00:28:35someone asks me to judge their ball I usually have the flyer right in front of
00:28:39me so when you walk I read the flyer and if it says teeth skin structure nose and I tell
00:28:52you to smile and you're missing some furniture in your living room and I spin you on your way don't
00:29:00get upset with me because you didn't
00:29:02see the dentists read the flyer
00:29:11when they're going there when they're going there when they're going there to compete
00:29:13amongst one another they're no longer gay people come competing for a trophy
00:29:19they're in their minds competing for respect they're competing for homage they're competing to be the best of the best
00:29:31that's why they
00:29:33it's so it's such an exciting event because this is not out of fun for them this is a part
00:29:41of their lives
00:29:52the first ball that I ever walked I believe and I remember being so scared of losing that I wanted
00:29:59I was moving so fast I mean I was like a machine like a robot
00:30:03and I remember okay I'll just do everything really fast so I won't get chopped so they'll be see everything
00:30:08that I've been working on and practicing and not given the chance to put
00:30:12up a nine because they'll see everything so I remember vlogging at like a hundred and fifty miles per hour
00:30:18at the speed of light and people would just I don't think it was so much the
00:30:22voguing I think it was like oh my god he's voting so fast that they were like overwhelmed by you
00:30:27know it was almost like I was gonna take off like a helicopter
00:30:36when somebody's first walking a ball and they get chopped or they don't win they get discouraged and you know
00:30:44you got to be there for them and I tell them it's just a ball and you go and tap
00:30:48that person and you tell them guess what I'll see you on the runway
00:30:53with the commentators doesn't know who you are that's one thing what a person needs to do is when
00:30:59they hit that floor they have to show the confidence to make the commentator realize and recognize who
00:31:04they are if not then that could affect your whole confidence level a good judge is someone that's
00:31:12actually read the ball flyer people that have experience in the ballroom scene that has been walking for years
00:31:18that has been judged for years when I'm asked to judge I have a certain standard that I look at
00:31:25but if I go by what the flyer is asking for and if the person is serving that way regardless
00:31:30of who it is
00:31:31and it's a shame to say but it's the truth this is girlfriend thing or if your girlfriend is walking
00:31:35they automatically get your 10 and that's not how it's supposed to be
00:31:50it takes courage to actually go up on the runway and have somebody judge you
00:31:55my first time I was real nervous because I never knew what ballroom was or how it was to be
00:32:00gay
00:32:01or how to have a ballroom attitude
00:32:06this kid just to come up and say you know you're a big inspiration I like your effects you know
00:32:10you're
00:32:11different you know it gave meaning I mean okay I'm doing something right
00:32:21I found a place where I could feel accepted and feel wanted just for being who I am
00:32:29I was one of those kids that actually sat back and learned and watched before I put myself out there
00:32:37I just want to be in one stable house and build my name and my foundation within that one house
00:32:43so you know I can excel and maybe one day become that legend and I can be on that panel
00:32:48and judge the new kids that's coming up
00:33:02Trophies will not feed the hungry coat the homeless hide the scar
00:33:06grand prizes will not bring Lazarus or La Beja back from the dead they will just sit in your closet
00:33:13fake idols gathering dust before the gold paint chips away
00:33:17you cannot sell them for freedom you cannot trade them in for love
00:33:27don't be scared don't be shy if your runway walk or try
00:33:33we all have the ability to do something that we want to do it just depends on how we go
00:33:41about it
00:33:42and when we go about it you know i i would hate to go through life saying oh i should
00:33:46have tried
00:33:46this i should have did this so i'm one of those people who's always going to try something at
00:33:51least once to see if it's going to work for me and this is one of those things that i
00:33:54said you
00:33:55know what i'm not working right now i could use some money i i have this skill i have this
00:34:00talent
00:34:00let me put it together i have some business sense and let me let it work for me and it
00:34:05did
00:34:09the ball community can be a wonderful training ground for up-and-coming designers and models
00:34:18if that's where you're going as the world evolved the balls evolved and then the dance moves evolve
00:34:28like everything evolves as time goes by so it's definitely very important to document that
00:34:38i definitely don't want people to know that i'm actually taking their picture because when
00:34:41they're natural you get true feeling behind it there's nothing false about it it's all real
00:34:47i think when people look at the pictures that i take they see reality and it's so intense
00:34:54that it's almost like you want to be part of that
00:35:01being involved in the bone community definitely inspires me when people look at the actual picture
00:35:07they actually feel like they're in it they're in the picture that they're looking at
00:35:11i have this escape i can go to and be with these fun people and see all this great energy
00:35:26it's very inspiring to see people uh so gung-ho about um a particular category and pulling
00:35:46it off-right i am the father of the house i'm the founder of the house of infinity and i
00:35:52founded
00:35:53the house in 1990 first i asked them what made them want to come to the house of infinity you
00:36:01know
00:36:01what can we offer them their answer love trust understanding and most of all unity
00:36:13and that's what the house of infinity is all about being a family you know helping each other
00:36:18looking out for one another in any time of need
00:36:37and that's what i said
00:36:52for a child
00:36:54for a child
00:37:01The legendary Avis Vindarvis and the legendary Dorian Corey,
00:37:06their creations would, you know, really open up my eyes to really go into bizarre at the ball
00:37:12and futuristic. And if we don't keep it in our hearts how it used to be and how we compete
00:37:20against one another at these balls and whatnot, to remember that we have to still love one
00:37:28another and keep a good tradition going on. To order to be a good winner, you have to be
00:37:35a good loser. A person that can hug its opponent and walk off with pride.
00:37:46When I go to a ball, I'm always prepared. I have band-aids, bobby pins, powders, deodorant,
00:37:52face wash, MAC makeup. I might not have your color, but I have it all. And I guess that's
00:37:59why I was voted mother of the year. Since 95, I've won women's face seven years in a row at
00:38:07the awards ball. This past year, I won mother of the year, which was never done by a lesbian
00:38:13before. You can't just get your face made up and just walk out. When you come out, you
00:38:21have to come out with confidence and with a glow, like an aura, or the judges will not
00:38:26pay you attention. You have to come out there like you know you deserve that trophy. Everything
00:38:33is the blank to me when I walk. The only thing I see is the front of the judges panel,
00:38:38and
00:38:38that's it. If I see that, because sometimes I'll focus on the back of the wall and just
00:38:44everything is blocked out to me.
00:38:52Since my outfit at the awards ball was made by designer Angel Vaskaya, as well as my jewelry
00:38:58and my headpiece. I prepared myself for that night by not eating. I was actually very nervous
00:39:07and smoking a lot of cigarettes. In the beginning, I wasn't winning and I wasn't feeling it. So
00:39:12when I started winning, I started putting more effort into it. I would make sure, like, watch
00:39:19over my designers, make sure my outfit was perfect. I would sell it in the mirror for like hours,
00:39:25hours, because I was always told, you have to sell it like a femme queen.
00:39:36When I walk face, and you hear from the sidelines, sell it, bitch, I don't really take bitch
00:39:44negatively in that aspect. I actually take it as being positive. Because you're walking,
00:39:49you're getting the audience hot because you're selling it, and they want you to sell it more.
00:39:54So they're like, sell it, bitch. So it gets you excited and it gets you hot. So you sell
00:39:58it more. After a ball, your emotions wind down. If you had a successful night, if your house
00:40:05had a successful night, your emotions are high. You want to go out to eat, you want to go to
00:40:09the club, you want to go anywhere just to keep the high going. If you had a, you know, if
00:40:15you
00:40:15lost that night and you're feeling kind of down, you just like to unwind at home, maybe go home,
00:40:20have a nice cup of tea, and go to sleep. We tolerate no violence or disrespect to one
00:40:27another, as well as anyone who is disrespectful to the house name by being a quote unquote troublemaker
00:40:36The ballroom community has been incredibly influential in the worlds of fashion and
00:40:41music and style and language.
00:40:43I don't only do runway. I don't only do shame. But I also comment, comment, commentate.
00:40:51Comment, comment, commentate. You want to walk right through the door. I want to come above
00:40:56the floor. You want to bend your wrist like this, like this, like this, like this. I want to
00:41:01bring it like a twist. I want to make sure you're dismissed. I want to see you get your
00:41:06take. I am the best at balance to the end. I am G, I am R, I am E, I
00:41:12am V, I am E, and
00:41:14N, but why does he? After Y, I don't actually watch this while he is sick of mine. Now I'm
00:41:20a G, G, G, Y, G. All the girls want to P, P, me.
00:41:24Peppa or Ava some of them used to tell me what was good and what was bad. And I learned.
00:41:29But now these things, the new generation, it's hard because they take everything as shame.
00:41:37They think everything as shame. I got to feel it and they got to feel it. And I know when
00:41:42I make them feel it, it's like, oh, I have to get this trophy. I have to get this tense.
00:41:48I got to make the girls know it. So it's that energy that's between the commentator and the,
00:41:55you know, the people that's competing.
00:42:00When you're voguing femme, femme, femme, just to get your tiggity, ten, ten, ten,
00:42:03you're the creme de la creme, creme, creme, creme. Let me see you stop.
00:42:08Shawam.
00:42:09The girls can't take my life fight. The girls can't take my shame, shame.
00:42:13The girls can't take my blame, blame.
00:42:14The girls can't take my blame.
00:42:18The girls can't take my blame, blame.
00:42:25The girls can't take my blame.
00:42:262001 is gone.
00:42:292002 has passed.
00:42:312003 is no longer here.
00:42:342004 no longer exists.
00:42:372005 are you ready?
00:42:39So you see, they take that and they run with it.
00:42:41Okay, but I'm not given the credibility because I'm not on the mic, but that's okay, because that's just how
00:42:48the game runs.
00:42:54People are doing it again. People are, they are wanting it again. They are feeling it again. Let me face
00:43:00it, it's the true gay dance.
00:43:14Madonna did something, the next thing that came along in what Madonna has been doing, capturing trends. She really did
00:43:22wonderful for the House of Extravaganza, the great exposition and the money that they made, taking them on tour.
00:43:33Vogueing was actually manufactured on Rikers Island in jail. At first was presentation, then they called it performance. It didn't
00:43:44become Vogueing until the 80s.
00:43:51I was, what, 15 when I first met Madonna in Sound Factory? And I mean, I remember her saying to
00:43:59me, she didn't understand how so much talent came out of such a little body.
00:44:07I think that what she was so, like, amazed by was in your face, I'm real, this is what it
00:44:14is, take it or leave it attitude.
00:44:16And it was something that we didn't have to try very hard to do. It was just the way we
00:44:21were, you know, it was what we projected, it was what we lived for, you know, to just be in
00:44:26your face.
00:44:27Yes, I'm fabulous and you can't tell me different. Yeah, I was always a little spiteful, shady. I was the
00:44:33shadiest one. I was the youngest one. I was the most spoiled one.
00:44:36But I think she was more, she was like, don't you realize what you're doing? I think that it came
00:44:42so natural to me that it was nothing.
00:44:46I didn't learn to appreciate what I had accomplished so much later in life. I was so young, you know,
00:44:53and I think with her, it was also a thing where she was just like, you know, she would just
00:45:00play the music and watch me do my thing.
00:45:04And next thing you know, she wanted everyone to do what I was doing, you know, and everyone had to
00:45:10be still and watch Jose at times.
00:45:12Everyone had to be still and watch Jose and Louis, you know, do their thing. And just from watching her,
00:45:18I was like, wow, this woman is really impressed by me.
00:45:20It's a scene in Truth or Dare, actually, where she's just like, you know, just kissing my feet and I'm
00:45:27like standing there like, okay, I have one of the biggest stars in the universe just telling me how incredible
00:45:32I am.
00:45:33And she's at my feet. I think it should be the other way around, you know, because I was always
00:45:38a big fan of hers too.
00:45:39And it was amazing to get the opportunity to go and work with her.
00:45:43I think it's something that you feel, you know, that's what street voguing is to me, more of a rough
00:45:51urban, you know, in your face type of, it's like acting out your dreams.
00:45:57I was a dreamer, I was curious, you know, there was a certain mystery to everything I wanted to know,
00:46:03I wanted to, if you said to me, don't put your hand there, that's where I was going to lay
00:46:08it down first.
00:46:08All the Gautier gigs, Francesco Scavullo, working with all the amazing photographers, those were all highlights.
00:46:17I mean, not even just gigs, just highlight moments, you know, a meeting Elizabeth Taylor, incredible moment, you know, having
00:46:26her tell me how incredible I am.
00:46:29You're an athlete, I like to see it as, you know, so dress for it, you know.
00:46:34So I started that whole cat suit and, you know, you know, knee pads and hot shorts and, you know,
00:46:42no shirt and just really like, you know, adding to what I'm doing, which is voguing.
00:46:58Performance, also known as vogue, is the art of improvising dance and drama-oriented modeling presentations.
00:47:05It is the interchanging of poses, struts, and ethnic dance gestures.
00:47:16Expressions of famous entertainers such as Alvin Ailey, Diana Ross, and Beverly Johnson inspired those who imitated them at showcase
00:47:23venues and New York correctional facilities.
00:47:26During the mid-70s, the dance became a category at balls marking the beginning of the conventional era.
00:47:31The term presentation was then replaced by performance, originally a feminine dance category with Arabic dancing, flamboyant struts, and fashion
00:47:39magazine poses.
00:47:53During the birth of hip-hop culture, the influence of breakdancing heightened the standard for acrobatics.
00:47:59By the late 80s, categories like performance with gymnastics, also performance with stretch, now known as new weight, began the
00:48:06Olympic-type performance era.
00:48:40Based on the
00:48:40As long as African-Americans are descendants of Ethiopian Kushites,
00:48:44performance will never perish.
00:48:52Who would have thought this would have went around the world, you know?
00:48:55And this came from the ball community.
00:48:59Andre has a lot of qualities.
00:49:01All I can say, he's always got something going.
00:49:04When you can get 75 people to do anything you want them to do,
00:49:09then you have power.
00:49:11I've been walking balls for about 12 years.
00:49:14I try to take it beyond the ballroom scene.
00:49:20I dance for a living. I'm a choreographer.
00:49:23I perform for Puffy Combs, Missy Elliott, and a few other stars.
00:49:27I'm trying to take it as far as I can.
00:49:29So that's another reason that I walk balls, too.
00:49:32Because I feel that balls can take people places.
00:49:35It depends on what you do and how you do it.
00:49:41A lot of people never use their shoulders when they're voguing, usually.
00:49:47And then this movement here,
00:49:50those were my signature movements.
00:49:52And now there seems to be standards.
00:49:54It's going to get Sofia up in here.
00:49:57It's going to get Sofia up in here.
00:50:01It's going to get Sofia.
00:50:02It's going to get Sofia.
00:50:04It's going to get Sofia up in here.
00:50:08A little bit of martial arts, a little bit of pantomime.
00:50:15When I started it, it was because I'm in the club having fun and they get my face.
00:50:20And lo and behold, here comes a new movement.
00:50:26Working with various recording artists, from Grace Jones to Queen Latifah,
00:50:31it was just about having fun and just goofing off.
00:50:47If you have a fierce song, your body's going to do what that song is telling you.
00:50:51Or if the commentator's turning it out and he changes the beat,
00:50:56but you can match him, your body's going to match what he's saying.
00:50:59I create it in my mind and then try to create it on the floor.
00:51:06I feel it later and I have to soak in the tub for a couple of hours.
00:51:09Twisted ankle in Germany.
00:51:12This scar from going into a prop on the stage.
00:51:15Break it down.
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00:51:57Muscle spasm from all the arm flicks and especially if you're doing it during performances and
00:52:02you're doing it for an hour or so, believe me, the older you get, the harder it gets.
00:52:07So all you young kids, you're going to need a lot of Bengay in that food stall.
00:52:13We have so much against us being black or Latin and gay.
00:52:19Taking what we do and branching out and showing the world this is us, look at our talent and
00:52:25and just bringing the spotlight to the community.
00:52:29To me that's a legend.
00:52:33The first time Vogue was ever seen was Jody Motley's second video, called Still a Grilla.
00:52:40Tyrone Proctor, we were in a dance group together, choreographed that and he was best friends
00:52:45with her.
00:52:45The second video, Harold Dane, Sheik was the choreographer as well, Bobby Brown's choreographer
00:52:52was in that video.
00:52:53It was weak, you know, straight boy trying to do a little Vogue.
00:53:00Then there was Liz Torres, underground house classic.
00:53:05Then it was my video, then it was with Latifah, coming to my house.
00:53:11Then Delight, good beat.
00:53:14Then Madonna.
00:53:17Play to play T-T-T-T-R.
00:53:45My house is mixed, it's straight, it's gay, it's multiracial, and the reason I'm
00:53:51going to do that in.
00:53:52If we want to be accepted, we've got to accept everybody.
00:54:16It's gotten me to see various cultures and experiences that I'll never forget.
00:54:34Looking at the history of the ball community, Pepper was one of the last surviving legendary
00:54:39mothers.
00:54:40When we were going to balls, balls were a special event.
00:54:44They didn't have them every month.
00:54:46If you wanted two a year and you prepared yourself for that night, you couldn't come in there
00:54:51and give them no bullshit because they would chop you.
00:54:54Because she's been doing that for over three decades, it was well overdue that she'd be
00:54:58honored and respected.
00:55:07Peppa was truly an icon.
00:55:11Peppa Lolita LaBeija had two children and a beautiful mother.
00:55:20There is a whole new generation of ball kids now, and very few of them knew Peppa's struggles
00:55:27and the survival skills she required to live her life.
00:55:31In addition, Peppa has seen the comings and goings of hundreds of ball children whom we lost
00:55:38to HIV and AIDS.
00:55:42We've lost a wonderful world of people with so much experience, talent, beauty.
00:55:49We've lost a lot of people along the way.
00:55:54Eric really shined light on the ballroom.
00:55:57He was always fair.
00:56:00He gave everybody a chance.
00:56:02A real inspiration to the ballroom community, and he was a real creator.
00:56:07We're here tonight to pay homage to our brother, Eric Christian Bazaar.
00:56:12There will never be anyone else like him on the mic.
00:56:15On the mic.
00:56:16Or for punk rock.
00:56:17Let us pray.
00:56:18Or for Bazaar.
00:56:20That's right.
00:56:20Or for foot and eyewear.
00:56:22That's true.
00:56:22Let's just say, all around.
00:56:24All around.
00:56:25Butch Queen.
00:56:25That's right.
00:56:26Legendary.
00:56:27Always serving.
00:56:28Always serving what?
00:56:29Most lessons don't have to say what you are.
00:56:30Knowing it and believing it.
00:56:32What?
00:56:32Yes.
00:56:33That's right.
00:56:39I'm not going to sit here and lie you that the girls were using condoms back in 1982.
00:56:43Condoms?
00:56:44We didn't even know what that thing was.
00:56:47I don't know why I'm alive.
00:56:50I thought that because I was HIV that I would never be able to have sex again.
00:56:53This is what I'm thinking.
00:56:55I'm never going to have sex again.
00:56:56I'm never ever going to let a man touch me.
00:56:59I couldn't think about being with somebody.
00:57:02Knowing that I have AIDS.
00:57:04But HIV is not having AIDS.
00:57:06HIV is not really harmful to anybody unless I make it harmful.
00:57:09We don't know everyone's status and everyone's not going to tell us their true status.
00:57:13So protect yourself.
00:57:14You know, treat everyone with universal precautions.
00:57:26This is my boyfriend Justin.
00:57:28We've been together for almost a year.
00:57:31I titled this one, Justin came to me in a dream.
00:57:34I did this in a series of photographs that came from dreams that I was having.
00:57:38I have very vivid dreams.
00:57:40Partly because of some of the medications that we take.
00:57:43One of my favorite people to photograph is Cleo.
00:57:45He's my best friend.
00:57:46He's in the ballroom community.
00:57:48He walks between up and drags categories.
00:57:51And I live.
00:57:51Luna Luis Ortiz has been a member of the Visual AIDS archive project since 1998.
00:57:55And in that time, we've seen his work mature as an artist and photographer, activist and teacher.
00:58:02Through the direct support that Visual AIDS offers artists living with AIDS,
00:58:06we hope to be able to empower them to continue making work as well as to document
00:58:10and hold a visual record of the AIDS pandemic and the art that's come from artists living with AIDS.
00:58:20I choose to do portraits of my friends because I've lost so many of them.
00:58:25Sort of like a visual diary.
00:58:27So I could keep my friends with me at all times.
00:58:30And sometimes I have them all over the apartment.
00:58:38As an adolescent, I was not supposed to think about sex.
00:58:41Yet I did think about it and I engaged in it.
00:58:45Unfortunately, I was not informed about what was safe and what was not.
00:58:49I became infected by HIV in 1986 at the age of 14
00:58:53with my first sexual experience.
00:58:56HIV made me think about how I wanted to be remembered.
00:58:59It was important for me to let people know that I exist.
00:59:03I thought at the time that I was going to get really sick
00:59:05and look like the images of AIDS we saw in the 1980s.
00:59:09But I didn't want to be seen as an AIDS victim.
00:59:12Around the time that I met Justin, I was having difficulty finding a relationship.
00:59:17A lot of people refused to date me because I was positive.
00:59:20Don't bring it down. Don't bring it down.
00:59:29Justin came to me and he was always very supportive about it.
00:59:33I remember I was afraid to tell him that I was positive.
00:59:37And I always wondered why was I afraid when I was always a show-off about my virus.
00:59:40He basically held my hand through the whole thing.
00:59:54Our sexual part of the relationship is very beautiful.
00:59:59It's intimate. It's just as normal as anybody's relationship.
01:00:03And it's very protected. It's a healthy, protective relationship.
01:00:11Throughout the years, you know, people that I came out with
01:00:14and people that I was raised with just, like, start dying on me.
01:00:20It affects me a lot. I mean, it's such a lot.
01:00:30Personally, I've lost over 400 of my friends.
01:00:33I can count boardroom personalities and people that are gone.
01:00:36It hurts.
01:00:38When I had to go to Ken Pandarvis' funeral,
01:00:40I was, like, baffled, bewildered, and bothered.
01:00:43Because I remember when all two of us, or three of us,
01:00:45were on the voguing floor performing against each other,
01:00:48and they're not here anymore.
01:00:50I've lost a lot of friends, but I've lost a lot of clients.
01:00:54So how it affected me is that I couldn't help anyone.
01:00:58Find you're HIV positive, that doesn't mean it's the end of your life.
01:01:01You know what I'm saying?
01:01:02A lot of them, kids turn to drugs as a comfort for being HIV positive.
01:01:06But it's once you eat, like I tell them, once you eat right,
01:01:09you take care of yourself, you take your meds on time, you'll be all right.
01:01:13Number one, I'm still here.
01:01:15And number two, I'm still negative.
01:01:17And the reason why is that I didn't drink and I didn't take drugs.
01:01:22And I said no. And that's it.
01:01:25GMHC, I know that they do wonderful things for the gay community.
01:01:30In the beginning they did, like they were bringing houses to do, you know, safe sex ads.
01:01:36But then they stopped all of that, you know?
01:01:38And you would see them at the balls and it became a thing where a latex chopping someone.
01:01:43And it's like, wait a minute, aren't you here to save the day?
01:01:46As far as the house of latex, no comments.
01:01:50The people who organized it aren't purely bald people that would have kept this going.
01:01:56At one time we had the cream of the latex there.
01:01:58We were all contained.
01:02:00We were all showing interest.
01:02:02We were all showing meetings.
01:02:03And then it just dropped.
01:02:29It feels almost like you're a celebrity.
01:02:33And it's the excitement.
01:02:35You want to get there and see who's wearing what, who's with who, who's in what new house.
01:02:49For someone to be considered a legend, you have to at one particular point be the best
01:02:53or at the top of that particular category that you lost.
01:03:18The Hall of Fame, what does it mean to me?
01:03:20It means a lot to me.
01:03:21Because it shows that the community approves of me.
01:03:25They see me.
01:03:26It made me feel like all the time by me being in the ball scene, it would have paid off.
01:03:43Being inducted into the Ballroom Hall of Fame, you know, of legendary status, I made that.
01:03:50And I walked my first ball when I was 14 years old.
01:03:52I don't have to walk anymore.
01:03:55And there's some people out there sometimes that would have to be like,
01:03:57OK, I want to walk against this person.
01:03:59Again, someone of my, of my caliber, of my status.
01:04:03You know, that would excite me enough to say, OK, this person is going to give me a run for
01:04:08my money.
01:04:08But I don't think there's no comparison to what I did with it and what they're doing with it now.
01:04:14So there's no need for competition because there isn't any.
01:04:17Oh, she better work.
01:04:47No touching.
01:04:49No pushing.
01:04:50No pushing.
01:04:50I'm here to work
01:04:52I want to see you work
01:04:54I want to feel you work
01:04:55I want to watch you work
01:05:00Archel, tell me, who would you like to see on the runway right now?
01:05:07Extravagan Valparawa
01:05:09I'm serving
01:05:12Extravaganza
01:05:29Extravaganza
01:05:30Voguing empowered me in a lot of ways
01:05:33It's something that
01:05:35It became like so natural to me
01:05:37Because of, you know, my talent and my gift and what I love to do
01:05:44It gave me reassurance
01:05:47It gave me secureness
01:05:53For those five minutes that I was out there doing this art, creating
01:05:59You know, it made me feel like I was doing something
01:06:03And I was, and that's great for my ego
01:06:06It's great for anyone's ego
01:06:08To feel like, wow, I just did something
01:06:11And got applauded and rewarded for it
01:06:13You know, it's a wonderful feeling
01:06:15And that makes you feel really good
01:06:17And feeling good
01:06:19I mean, that's all you need
01:06:20It shows, you know, you get a glow
01:06:23I mean, if you feel good
01:06:24You know, you walk down the street
01:06:26There's a certain walk to your walk
01:06:28There's a certain talk to your talk
01:06:30You know, when you feel good
01:06:31You feel invincible
01:06:32You feel strength
01:06:33You feel everything that's good
01:06:35And the fact that that can bring all those things to you
01:06:40Just from doing that
01:06:42Like, doing anything that you love
01:06:45Anything that's being appreciated
01:06:48It's definitely a force not to be reckoned with
01:06:54To fight
01:06:55What's in this
01:06:55You're gonna be
01:06:56You're gonna be
01:06:57Do it
01:06:57Yeah, you're gonna be
01:06:58You're gonna be
01:06:59One
01:07:00Estreleganza
01:07:01Two
01:07:02Estreleganza
01:07:04Three
01:07:04Estreleganza
01:07:06Three
01:07:07Two
01:07:07Estreleganza
01:07:08Estreleganza
01:07:09Three
01:07:10Three
01:07:10Four
01:07:12Estreba
01:07:14Five
01:07:17Estrela
01:07:30it's given me a career that is amazing I mean I never thought you know me the
01:07:36kid from the projects what the hell was I gonna do when you put creativity out
01:07:41there what you get back is wow amazement if you really respect yourself you love
01:07:47yourself you love what you do people will learn how to cope with you they need all
01:07:51these corporations and all these businesses these fashion houses they
01:07:54need the drama they need all that I wish to God I had videotaped every day of my
01:08:00life though I'd be a really rich queen right now what they do does have impact
01:08:05it does affect the whole world it's been an honor for me to sit with Willie Ninja
01:08:10and Hector extravaganza and all these people as a total outsider who knows
01:08:15nothing and partake in all this you know be dazzle meant and to help judge the
01:08:20contest it's really been fun for me if only like the world didn't have
01:08:24stereotypes or hang-ups about round being GLBT like I could just imagine how much
01:08:29more beautiful this world would be with the creativeness that comes out of this
01:08:33subculture be safe and certain in what you do and don't grow up too fast take
01:08:39time out to to to live before you start making decisions that are just gonna hold
01:08:44you back I have a lot of doors open to me in Spain they know who I am they know
01:08:50what I'm about they know what I can do so they open a lot of doors to me the
01:08:55point is never give up and that's what what the legacy will continue is as long
01:09:00as no one gives up let me live let me feel the rain let me feel the Sun let me
01:09:05be
01:09:05happy let me feel alive today I'm fighting for the cause to keep hope alive it's not
01:09:12over until it's over and it's not over yet
01:09:15there's a rumor going around that we've never heard before
01:09:19are you on EP ONY Ebony or are you the new mother of the house of Balloon of Blood
01:09:26I'll always love the Ebony to my family but I am the mother of the house
01:09:40the categories are Figs, Woman's Runway, Vogue Film, Butch Queen Up in Dress, Femme Queen Sex Siren
01:09:54are you ready are you bitches ready to walk for me bring it to the runway
01:09:59now
01:10:00how do I look just real mysterious
01:10:08how do I look just real mysterious
01:10:12how do I look just real mysterious
01:10:20walk for me
01:10:22Bring it to the runway, man!
01:10:41Just mysterious.
01:10:44How do I look?
01:10:52What's amazing?
01:11:05Just mysterious.
01:11:10How do I look?
01:11:13Just mysterious.
01:11:26Bring it to the runway, man!
01:11:32How do I look?
01:11:34Just mysterious.
01:11:40How do I look?
01:11:44Just mysterious.
01:11:47Yes.
01:11:48Yes.
01:12:08Bring it to the runway, man!
01:12:11Power is just me.
01:12:14Disperious.
01:12:21She's sweet, mysterious
01:12:51How do I look?
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