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A working session on how AI is changing the way Black women access information, advocate for their health, and make decisions about their care. Dr. Robin Barrett walks you through the tools, the risks, and the practices that turn AI into an ally.
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00:00All right, everybody. Well, welcome to Unbothered's Talking Circle. If this is your first time with us, this circle is
00:08really about connection. It's about community. For those that aren't familiar with Unbothered, Unbothered is a platform for black women
00:14to be seen, to be heard, to be celebrated. We are a sister brand to Essence.
00:19My name is Erica Chitty. I am the SVP of brand and content for Unbothered. I joined the company back
00:26in February to bring my long background in women's health across advocacy, social impact, and technology to help evolve Unbothered
00:36from focusing on entertainment and culture to well-being and culture.
00:40So the conversation we're going to have today, I'm really excited about because I am very passionate about AI being
00:46a tool, especially for black and brown folks, to take control and to take charge of our health and to
00:52make sense of our health, very much like the last circle we just had, where you might not be close
00:57to a doctor who can interpret things for you.
00:59That's really a big place where AI can come in. Little house rules, circle rules. So there's no panel, speaker.
01:07We have different terms that we use here. So we have a keeper. I will be your keeper today.
01:12So I will keep the conversation flowing. When it's time for questions, I will bring you a mic if you
01:17need one. And then we have our anchors, like Robin. Robin is going to anchor the conversation and is going
01:23to offer up her wisdom to the circle.
01:26And then the third role is the circle itself. So that's all of you. So we want to hear from
01:31you. We want you to feel like you can be a part of this to share your knowledge with us.
01:35All right. So to kick off the circle, we always open with a clearing. So please join me. We're going
01:40to rub our hands together. And then when I count to three on three, we're going to clap.
01:44And that clearing helps to seal the field and the energy in here and keep whatever else is outside, outside.
01:49Sound good? All right. Let's go.
01:51So let's really rub as fast as we can. And I'm going to count to three. One, two, three.
02:00Now I'm going to turn it over to Robin.
02:03Hello, everyone. I'm so excited to be your anchor for this session because AI has become something that's a regular
02:11thing in my life.
02:12And I want all of us to know how we can use it.
02:15So AI, we're going to talk about using it as your health ally.
02:19OK, I'm Dr. Robin B. I actually am a pharmacist, a recovering pharmacist, turned into not only a fitness coach,
02:29but a wellness educator.
02:30And I think the transition happened way before I did it.
02:35COVID hit. I was in a rotation.
02:38I got to see a lot of things that I didn't like to see in that space.
02:44People were being pumped with medications.
02:46And it was something in me that said, you know what, let's be preventative versus reactive.
02:52So that preventative method just started running in my head.
02:56And I then experienced something tragic where my grandmother, she my mom is right here.
03:03Her mother, she actually was diagnosed with lung cancer and she had never smoked a cigarette a day in her
03:09life.
03:09Right. We've heard about things like this just randomly.
03:13And so once she was in the hospital, of course, the cancer spread.
03:18All these different things started to happening.
03:20Then we medication started to pile up and I saw that we were, you know, prescribing her things that were
03:26just for the symptoms of other things and other drugs.
03:29So that became something I was like, you know what?
03:32It would have been better if we knew early on that she had this.
03:36If we were able to treat her and be preventative, maybe with movement and things that even as pharmacists and
03:41doctors, we learn to teach our patients first.
03:44We don't tell them to run and grab the drug from the pharmacy.
03:47We say 150 minutes of movement every single week, you know, and and we're not really leading with that.
03:55So I said, you know what?
03:56This is my space to take up.
03:58And so that's what started my journey.
04:02And I just want to know, I want to ask the room by a show of hands.
04:06How many of you guys have been in a doctor's appointment and they're telling you you feel horrible and they're
04:12telling you everything's normal, everything's fine, but you know something's wrong.
04:17So, yes, okay, what about you're overwhelmed because you get home and you get your lab work and you don't
04:24know what it means and you have and they're not calling you back.
04:27Okay, it happens to all of us.
04:30What about having, you know, a family member that doesn't understand the medical jargon?
04:37They're older.
04:37They don't understand what they're diagnosed with and you have to go look it up on Google.
04:40So, anybody?
04:42All right.
04:43We've all experienced this, which means you guys are already doing the work.
04:47So AI is going to step in and actually be your ally, your partner in your health.
04:53So, okay, I want you guys to finish this sentence.
04:57I might actually go around with this one.
05:00If I had someone to help me with one health task every single week, what would it be?
05:08One single task.
05:11Can we turn up the second mic, please?
05:14Turn up the second mic, please.
05:18Understanding fluctuations in my hormones.
05:20That's a great one.
05:24You don't have to answer, just if you have something.
05:27Exercise and more.
05:29Ooh.
05:32Relieving stress at work.
05:34I love that one.
05:36Just refreshing my spaces.
05:39Yes.
05:40Amen.
05:43Increasing bone health.
05:45Wow.
05:47I love that.
05:48Nutrition.
05:51Love nutrition.
05:52I'm vegan, so, like, nutritional intake, making sure everything is, I'm getting enough of what I need.
05:58Yes.
05:58If something could magically put my pills in my hand that I have to take every day, that's what I
06:04want.
06:04We're getting there.
06:07Nutrition is definitely a top one.
06:11For me, it's time management and organization.
06:15Ooh.
06:17Being consistent.
06:19I love that.
06:22Natural remedies.
06:24Natural remedies.
06:25I love that.
06:26Everyone had an amazing, amazing answer.
06:29And AI can pretty much, besides the pills, can pretty much do all of that, you guys.
06:34And we're not saying completely put all your trust in AI.
06:38It's you as the decision maker, AI as the tool.
06:41It's just a tool.
06:43So, today, we're going to talk about just a few things.
06:46This just scratches the surface of what AI can do.
06:48But about understanding your health, that's what something that, like, AI can do.
06:54Build your AI personal trainer.
06:56Like you said, what is my workout regimen?
06:59What should I do for my goals?
07:01Plan nutrition.
07:02That's a big one.
07:03If you're vegan, whatever your dietary restrictions are, AI can help you with that.
07:08And prepare for doctor's appointments.
07:10Like we said, when you go into these doctor's appointments, you've got to be prepared.
07:14Okay?
07:15Because the average, did you guys know the average doctor's appointment with a PCP is 15 to 20 minutes?
07:21Do you guys think that you could get all your questions answered and tell them what your weight and date
07:26of birth is in 15 to 20 minutes?
07:29It's impossible.
07:30So, if you don't come prepared, and they're not used to seeing us prepared.
07:34They're used to seeing us just listening to them, taking their notes, and not knowing what to do.
07:39So, I think if we strategize and organize, we can get there.
07:43And then we have ask better questions.
07:45A big problem is we don't know how to talk to AI.
07:50We don't know.
07:51You know, we're used to chat.
07:52We're used to chat knowing us.
07:54We're like, oh, you know, all I got to do is say some simple sentence and ask it something.
07:59It's way more than that.
08:00So, I'll walk through that as well.
08:02All right.
08:03So, this is what I would start with.
08:06Okay?
08:06I'm going to get into the system that I use, that I stand by.
08:10But understanding your health.
08:12You need to prompt your AI to just have a complete vision of who you are, where you are, and
08:18where you want to go.
08:19So, it's simply things like, you know, your age, your medication, your medication history, your ethnicity, super important, your injuries,
08:29your goals, your fitness level, as well as your sleep, how you're sleeping, how many hours on average, your stress,
08:37and your labs and family history.
08:39All of that, you can program into AI so that when you ask it something in the future, it already
08:44knows who you are.
08:46So, with that, the way you prompt, particularly for something medically related, is say you are a board-certified health
08:58assistant.
08:59Right?
08:59You're acting, you have to tell the AI to act as whatever you want.
09:03If you want an author, if you want an assistant, if you want someone to do your taxes, you have
09:09to act like the expert in that field.
09:11So, that's how you start the prompt.
09:13And then, I want you guys to think about the qualities that you want in your provider.
09:19That's something that people miss.
09:21What is it that you need your provider to be?
09:24A lot of us, we want a black provider, especially if we are, you know, thinking of if we're dealing
09:29with pregnancy or OB-GYNs.
09:33We want someone that understands us and our bodies.
09:36So, think about that.
09:37What do you respond well to in the medical field?
09:41And then, you want to think about how that is going to be taken towards your goals and towards your
09:47results.
09:48So, once you go ahead and tell AI who you are, what you want, and who you want to talk
09:53to and hear from, it has a better understanding.
09:57So, has anybody heard of Claude by a show of hands?
10:01Does anyone use Claude?
10:03Every day, all day, girl.
10:04Oh, yes.
10:05The desktop or the phone?
10:07Uh-huh.
10:07All of that.
10:08All of that.
10:08All of that.
10:08She said yes.
10:09See, I love that.
10:11I think everyone in this room should be using a paid AI at this point.
10:15You know, you shouldn't be using the free GPT unless you want to, but I think when it comes to
10:21Claude, you want to pay for the services and you want to use them more often.
10:25So, have you guys heard of Claude Cowork?
10:29Okay.
10:30We have somebody.
10:31So, yes.
10:32So, there's three different features in Claude.
10:36So, first, you have the chat.
10:37That's what we all know.
10:38We think it's kind of like ChatGPT.
10:40It might be smarter.
10:41That's kind of how we think about Claude or everybody's using this one, but it's different.
10:47What the Cowork is is like a Coworker.
10:51So, you can literally think about him because we call Claude him as a Coworker.
10:55So, they're actually doing these tasks that you guys name that you want people to do.
11:00They're your agent, right?
11:02So, Cowork can actually, once you have the paid plan and you download the desktop version, that's why I have
11:07my computer here to show you guys,
11:09just a laptop, doesn't have to be a monitor.
11:12Once you go to the Cowork tab, automatically, this section is where you create your brain.
11:20Okay?
11:21So, you have all these projects.
11:24You'll see projects that you can create.
11:25And within each project, you can make it think like whatever you want.
11:29So, that's why we say the prompt that I said about what your provider should look like, maybe it's under
11:36health, right?
11:38And then that is the brain for health.
11:39And anything regarding that, you ask in that project.
11:43Okay?
11:44You can have a project about your favorite podcaster.
11:49You can download the transcripts on YouTube of everything they've ever said.
11:54I do it for Emigree, everything she's ever said.
11:58And it becomes her in AI form.
12:01Everything she would say, everything she's ever said.
12:04But think about that.
12:04That's all we have of her, right?
12:07It can take that endless amount of information and make it into a brain.
12:12So, that's your starting point, right?
12:14And you got to also think, you know, I don't know if anybody do coaching or have clients of some
12:19sort.
12:21Okay, so you have transcripts.
12:24You have calls with these clients, right?
12:26Same thing where you can kind of record those calls, put that in there, and maybe you have an action
12:30plan after you finish the call or just know what to follow up on the next time.
12:35So, it's very useful in a lot of use cases.
12:38So, that's what a brain, that's what a project is.
12:41Project equals brain.
12:44Okay.
12:46Now, a skill.
12:47A skill is where it gets very fun.
12:49And it gets very active.
12:51So, what happens is that agent, it's becoming someone who's working for you, uses that project that not only just
12:59has the information you feed it, but it also feeds from your desktop.
13:04So, you can drop files and folders into your desktop.
13:08So, it's actually in your computer if you allow it.
13:11So, that's what's really cool because, like, the first thing that I did personally was organize every single thing on
13:16my desktop.
13:17I had screenshots here and there, and I had things all over the place.
13:21I said, Claude, get to work.
13:23Get me more organized.
13:24I want this for screenshots.
13:26I want this for, you know, my documents.
13:28And it did that.
13:29All my taxes and stuff like that, it organized it.
13:33So, I asked it to do that and then start to build these projects.
13:40So, to the beautiful lady who said, you want Claude or AI to be your personal trainer.
13:48I don't know if you guys know me, but I actually have an app, okay?
13:52It's called the Ladder app.
13:53I'm one of the coaches.
13:54You can think like a Peloton competitor to this app, but it's strength training.
13:59You don't need the bike.
14:01You can take this anywhere you go.
14:02And my program specifically is dumbbell only.
14:06All you need is two dumbbells.
14:08And I promise you, you'll probably see my ads if you open up the phone one day.
14:12But what we really push is that you can be a mom, a busy worker, me coming from pharmacy knowing
14:17that I didn't have time.
14:19All I had was 30 minutes, but I wanted to keep my body active.
14:22And I knew medically that was the requirement, just 150 minutes a week.
14:27So, I don't need to spend hours in the gym.
14:30I don't need to kill myself and exhaust myself.
14:32I could just show up, okay?
14:35So, this app allows you to show up.
14:37So, that's really cool.
14:39And it's inexpensive.
14:40You know, it's a dollar a day.
14:42However, what if I told you you could build one yourself?
14:47In 20 minutes.
14:49Less than.
14:50So, if you use this Claw desktop, I will provide you guys, and you can come up to me afterwards.
14:56I will provide you guys with a prompt.
14:58What this prompt will do is tell the AI to start asking you questions.
15:02Okay?
15:03And it's already building out the dashboard.
15:08So, this is what happens in less than, I'd say, like seven minutes.
15:11It's thinking, it's thinking.
15:13And it gives you a skill.
15:15Remember that skill, like I said, is like an SOP, if you will.
15:19Like, what are we doing, and how do we get there?
15:22So, we get the skill.
15:23We save it to Claw.
15:25And then it runs these questions.
15:27It asks things like, what's your target strength?
15:30Like, or what are you trying to improve, right?
15:33Improve on.
15:34For me, I was like, oh, glute growth, you know.
15:36But I want to also lose weight.
15:38You can put whatever you want, and it'll tell you the truth.
15:42Then you have your current baselines.
15:43Then you have your schedule.
15:45What days can you show up?
15:46I only have 30 minutes.
15:48Monday, 6 a.m.
15:49Cool.
15:50You put that.
15:51You're honest.
15:52You tell it what it needs.
15:53Then you have venue.
15:54Am I in the gym?
15:55Am I at home?
15:56Am I Pilates only?
15:59Do I hate running?
16:00You also say your dislikes.
16:02You go through your injuries.
16:04And then, last but not least, your biometrics.
16:07Like, your height, your age, your weight.
16:09And then you go forward.
16:12After that, what it does is interesting.
16:14It gives you a little bit of feedback.
16:15It might have, like, okay, you can't grow glutes and lose the weight.
16:19When you're growing the glutes, you may still see that scale there.
16:23And do you guys know what body recomposition is?
16:26Okay.
16:27We have somebody.
16:27So, that is the act of building muscle and losing weight at the same time.
16:32So, you won't see that scale move.
16:35And I teach a lot of my clients.
16:36I'm like, it's not about the scale, but how are your pants fitting?
16:39Right?
16:40How do you feel?
16:41Do you have more energy?
16:41Can you get up earlier?
16:43Those are the things that fitness and physical activity do.
16:46And then, over time, it's really about that nutrition.
16:49It's really about how you're eating that's going to swing that scale, whatever way.
16:55So, what it did was, and I know you guys may not be able to see,
16:59but it popped out almost identical to my app.
17:04Okay?
17:05And I know, like, my bosses, they built this app a long time ago.
17:08But it's like, I can do this personalized to me.
17:12It's not a random workout.
17:14It's not a YouTube workout, a TikTok workout.
17:16It's not something that I just saw and saved and never going to look at again.
17:20This is something that is here, and it's all configured to me.
17:24So, it tells me, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, you're going to show up.
17:27You're going to do these movements, warm up, hip thrust.
17:30And I was like, I can get with that.
17:33And I'll give it to you new every week.
17:35So, now for the meal plan.
17:37I want to know, what is everybody's goal?
17:42Like, has their goal, has your goal changed?
17:44I know a lot of people, it used to be weight loss.
17:47But I think getting stronger is way more important than being skinny.
17:51Me, personally.
17:53Because we have so much going on in our lives that we just need to be strong for our families.
17:58We want to live long.
17:59We want to have that bone mineral density.
18:02We want to be able to be here.
18:04We want to move our bodies, not be in wheelchairs.
18:06That's what matters to us.
18:09And so, is everybody on board with that?
18:11That's, yeah.
18:12That's what we want.
18:13Longevity, right?
18:15And longevity does have to do with, you know, worrying about your bones.
18:20Grip strength.
18:21Grip strength is so important.
18:22We really take that for granted.
18:23So, that's why, like, lifting dumbbells, you know, and maybe, like, hanging on a bar for a little bit to
18:29see that grip strength.
18:30You're going to need it later on in life.
18:32You know, when you go to grab something and you physically can't, you don't want to ever feel that.
18:37So, longevity is also built into this, and AI can help you plan.
18:43That's what it is.
18:44It's your ally.
18:45All right.
18:46So, for the meal plan, what do I do?
18:48The prompt.
18:48You guys can come up to me and get the prompt.
18:50I ask it.
18:51It asks you a couple questions.
18:54And all of a sudden, can it do a meal plan?
18:58Yes.
18:58But what I think is most important is the tracking, the consistency.
19:03What am I actually, I know what I want to do.
19:05I know what I want to eat.
19:06I know that I'm not eating dairy and meat.
19:08But am I actually doing it?
19:10Am I getting my protein amount?
19:12And you've always heard people say, one gram per pound of protein a day.
19:17That's a lot.
19:19It's overwhelming.
19:21Like, I have to get in 130-something grams of protein a day.
19:26And I feel like it's hard to do.
19:29So, what if I can track that?
19:31So, you can actually use a picture, just like MyFitnessPal.
19:36You guys have heard of it, right?
19:37Just like MyFitnessPal.
19:39Write an AI for free.
19:41Done for you.
19:42By you.
19:43And you can share it with anyone that you love.
19:47So, that's something that's super important to me.
19:49And then, just last but not least, I wanted to talk about that preparing for your doctor's appointments and understanding
19:56exactly how to do that.
19:58You can organize your symptoms.
20:00You just literally, I have a skill that does a Monday brain dump.
20:05On Monday, I have all these things I want to accomplish.
20:07And I'm just like, how can I get it all done?
20:10Then, it'll organize that for you.
20:12So, in the same manner, what am I feeling and how am I feeling?
20:17Throw that in.
20:19Commas.
20:20It can be messy.
20:21As long as this brain is constructed for you and towards that task.
20:25All right?
20:26And then, you can build your question list.
20:28Say, from these symptoms, what should I ask?
20:31And then, last but not least, you can prep it with your history, like we said.
20:35Because that is something that doctors don't just ask just to ask.
20:38It actually goes into the treatment.
20:40And then, you go into the 15 to 20-minute appointment.
20:44You get what they're there to do.
20:46You get your blood work done.
20:47And then, afterwards, you want to go ahead and to Claude and paste your after visit summary.
20:53All your lab results.
20:55Everything the doctor said.
20:57You don't just throw that piece of paper away.
20:58I know a lot of us leaving in the car.
21:00We don't know what the numbers mean.
21:02We don't have to.
21:03And we don't have to understand every single thing.
21:06Just what is wrong.
21:08Where are the red flags here?
21:10Okay?
21:11Because a lot of things that the doctors do are, they're focused on things the bigger picture.
21:16But they're not looking at how low your vitamin D is.
21:20Things that, as blacks, we need to make sure that we have high vitamin D.
21:24So, I think it's really important that we do the due diligence and we double down.
21:29So, I want to just check in really quickly because we probably have about maybe another three minutes before we
21:35have to close the circle.
21:37Is there anything anyone here wants to share?
21:40It can be a reaction.
21:41It can be a question.
21:43Because I know for a lot of people, you know, still right now, I think only about 5% of
21:49the population is utilizing AI on a daily basis.
21:53Or knowingly using it, right?
21:55Like, right now, if you type into Google, you are using AI.
21:58That's happening.
21:59But actively using it in the way that Robin is talking about or in the way that I use it.
22:04So, with that said, any questions or reflections on the things that Robin shared?
22:09And I can bring you the mic if you have anything to say.
22:17I have been using AI as far as health care for my granddaughter, actually.
22:22Because she has sickle cell.
22:23And just trying to understand and learn more things that the doctor is explaining to me about her health.
22:28So, it helps me to better understand medications and treatments and things like that.
22:33I love that.
22:35Can we give her a round of applause for that?
22:36That's how you're supposed to use it.
22:38Exactly.
22:39I love it.
22:40Anybody else?
22:44Okay.
22:47And then after this, y'all, we're going to close the circle.
22:51Hi.
22:51Just as a person that has kind of committed to living a life of purpose, you know, it's a borderline
23:02of accepting what is and then working against the greater good.
23:08And, you know, I understand that we really don't have a choice, but at the same time, like, at what
23:16point do we just accept that we must all collectively work towards, like, what will result in a continuum for
23:26us?
23:26Yes, because it is a compromise, and it's kind of like we're not, you know, focusing on our children inheriting
23:36a life better and more so of forcing what we're being forced to accept.
23:44I love that.
23:45That is valid, very valid and a normal feeling.
23:49And I think it just, like you said, it's unavoidable right now, and I think we need to be ahead
23:56of the wave.
23:57I think a lot of times, us as African Americans, we kind of jump on the boat last, and the
24:02boat has already sailed.
24:03But guess what we always have?
24:04We're always grounded.
24:05We always know where our true help comes from, and we always know how to find our center.
24:10And I think as long as I said you are the decision maker, and it's just a tool, and it's
24:15not forming your choices, it's just helping you organize them.
24:18That's all.
24:19Great question.
24:21Thank you, everybody.
24:22Okay.
24:23Robin, thank you so much.
24:25I'm excited to keep having this conversation beyond this moment.
24:28For anyone that's joining us for the first time or just walked in, we're going to close the circle.
24:33To close the circle, we rub our hands together.
24:35We create a little bit of energy between our hands.
24:41And we let that happen at the same time.
24:44And I'm going to count until three, and on three we'll clap.
24:48And that clap just keeps the energy here and lets you walk out into the rest of your day.
24:52Okay, let's go.
24:53One, two, three.
24:57Thank you all.
24:59Thank you all.
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