00:00Surfing and music really do go hand in hand because if you think about surfing, it's very
00:04rhythmic when you're on the wave.
00:06You know, there's a flow to it.
00:07The ocean is also very musical in my opinion.
00:11Back in the old days, I used to kind of hit my board and come up with beats when I'd
00:16be
00:16waiting for waves.
00:17So it's almost like a magnet for creativity.
00:20I believe that helped me with Kirk and Metallica.
00:23You know, that's how we came together.
00:25We came together through surf.
00:26He came down to Southern California with a couple of his buddies who are surfers, and
00:31they said, take us surfing.
00:32And we connected that way, and we bonded.
00:35And I had gotten a call.
00:35I was in Tahiti on a surf trip.
00:37It was a message from Lars and Kirk saying, hey, man, come on and jam with us.
00:43And I always think that surfing is what brought me to Metallica because of Kirk.
00:48It's crazy because I'm sure it happens everywhere in the world, but when you have a really good
00:54swell, everybody's getting together.
00:56It's a gathering, and then sometimes there's parties afterwards.
00:59The ocean brings celebration, you know.
01:01It's just a great way to celebrate life, in my opinion.
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