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In this explosive exclusive interview with Oneindia News Editor Pankaj Mishra, Palestinian Ambassador to India presents his perspective on the events leading up to the October 7 attack, arguing that the roots of the Israel Palestine conflict stretch far beyond a single day. The discussion explores the historical grievances, political tensions, and humanitarian concerns that have fueled decades of confrontation in the region.
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In this explosive exclusive interview with Oneindia News Editor Pankaj Mishra, Palestinian Ambassador to India presents his perspective on the events leading up to the October 7 attack, arguing that the roots of the Israel Palestine conflict stretch far beyond a single day. The discussion explores the historical grievances, political tensions, and humanitarian concerns that have fueled decades of confrontation in the region.
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00:00What is the role of Israel in creating Hamas?
00:03Hamas was created at the hand of the Israeli occupation mid-1970
00:09as a way out to avoid sitting with the PLO, Palestine Liberation Organization.
00:16Officially speaking, 94% of the historical land of Palestine
00:20whom was consisted 70% of the population
00:24while the other 30% is newly immigrant to Palestine
00:29who is also carrying the Palestinian nationality.
00:33Refugees so that when we talk about U.S. and Israel
00:37U.S. or the iron dome for the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian.
00:47So the support is there. I'm not revealing a secret.
00:51Hello and welcome to this special broadcast on One India.
00:54My name is Pankaj Mishra and it's our pleasure today to be speaking to the
00:59Palestinian Ambassador to India, His Excellency Abdullah M. Abu Chavez.
01:04The developments post-October 7, the developments that are taking place right now
01:09with respect to Middle East, with respect to the Arab world, all of them need a closer look.
01:14And who else better than the Ambassador himself?
01:18Ambassador Abu Chavez, thank you so much for speaking to One India, sir.
01:22Thank you so much indeed, Pankaj.
01:24And many thanks, of course, to One India News at large for having me today.
01:29My pleasure, of course.
01:30Thank you, sir.
01:31So we will begin with the pressing need and the pressing concern about the collapse of the healthcare sector
01:38and the healthcare industry on the whole in Palestine following the attacks by Israel.
01:45How are people coping up there?
01:47Again, thank you so much indeed, Pankaj, for having me when there is a lot of devastating situation
01:53and all the whole entire sectors in Palestine have been enduring in a catastrophic situation.
02:00But mainly this day I had been convened this press conference to shed light in a very devastating
02:08and very critical and very impressing situation we are enduring in Palestine.
02:13The health sector at large, the health situation in Palestine is on the brink of totally collapse, utterly collapse.
02:22Perhaps let me just remind all your audience that for the 986 days of the genocidal war that had been
02:33launched by the Israeli against the entire Palestinian people,
02:37especially in Gaza, 19 out of 36 hospitals in Gaza is still partially working.
02:45The other, of course, the other 17 hospitals has been totally, utterly, completely razed and demolished and completely destroyed.
02:55So only 19 out of 36 is still partially working.
03:00When you talk about 19 out of 36 in a devastating situation where more than 170,000 Palestinians had been
03:10injured during the last live stream genocidal war,
03:14this means a lot of pressure on the health system.
03:17When we talk about the health system in Gaza itself with the limitation of the access of the health and
03:25the tablets,
03:28health issue and the necessary medical supply due to the Israeli measures in the border,
03:35this means another more pressure on the health system in Gaza.
03:39When it came to the West Bank due to the Israeli stangulation financial measures that had been took by the
03:48Israeli government
03:49and the withholding of the Palestinian tax revenue that reached more than $5.5 billion up today,
03:59that we received zero of it.
04:01This means that the two main sectors or the two main major sectors that consume the budget, the Palestinian budget,
04:09which is the health and, of course, the education system.
04:14The health system is in the brinks again, in the West Bank, in the brinks of collapse.
04:19Last year, during this period, I mean, since the beginning of 2025 up to June 2025,
04:2865,000 different types of surgeries have been conducted.
04:32This year, in the same exact period, only 19,500 surgeries have been conducted.
04:3911,000 surgeries have been postponed.
04:43Out of 97 necessary medicine, necessary tablets for the cancer, for treatment of the cancer,
04:5450 of these, 97 is out of the shell, is not founded in the Ministry of Health.
05:02Out of more than 580 different types of medicine, only 180 types are still founded, and we are in respect.
05:12What I would like to say is that the health situation, the health sector in Palestine is, so to speak,
05:23is working in the very lowest level, which did not survive and serve the people.
05:33There are tens of people still losing their life due to this shortages of health and healthcare.
05:40Indeed, a precarious situation, I must say.
05:43If we go to the root cause of this situation, sir,
05:47Israel says that security and military control is what will only safeguard the scenario,
05:55and hence, West Bank and Gaza should be militarily controlled.
05:59Now, this control or this forced military presence itself fuels resistance.
06:05How do we break this cycle?
06:08Who should stop first to let the diseased get treatment?
06:12I thank you so much.
06:14You should like a very important wording that I used to use it when I face the people, which is
06:23the root cause.
06:26In economy, we used to say that any problem or any challenge can be faced and solved if and only
06:34if you went to its root
06:36or to the root of the problem itself or to the root cause of the problem.
06:40And when it came to the root cause of the issue of the Palestinian in the Middle East, it was
06:45not the security, it was not the military,
06:49it was come from the British themselves in November 2, 1917, when they pledged our homeland,
06:59the British home have zero footprint in our homeland, the British home have zero right over our land or over
07:07our society.
07:09At that exact day, they pledged our homeland to the Kazarian Jews.
07:13This is the root cause of the problem, which means that the British home saw the seed for all the
07:18evil and the misery that we are facing up today.
07:21The root cause of the problem is the unjust situation that we found ourselves on it,
07:26when someone who did not own our land pledged our land to the foreigner and to the Kazarian Jew, to
07:32the European Jew.
07:33This is the root cause of the problem. This is the root cause of the issue.
07:37This is the root cause of the issue. The root cause of the issue is the unjust situation that we
07:40had been endured since the British occupied our land in 1917,
07:451917, up to 19, up to May 14, 1948, when they, the British did not spare any effort to demilitarize
07:56the Palestinian people
07:57and militarize and strengthening the Jewish existence and military existence in Palestine.
08:04This is the root cause of the issue, the root cause of the issue when the United Nations in 1948,
08:11without consulting us with the indigenous people, whom own 94% of the historical land of, officially speak,
08:2094% of the historical land of Palestine, whom was consisted 70% of the population,
08:27while the other 30% is newly immigrant to Palestine, who is also carrying the Palestinian nationality.
08:35The root cause when the United Nations, without consulting us, decided to divide our land
08:40and to oblige 54% of our land to the new immigrants, to the 30% of the population of
08:48Palestine, to the Jewish at that time,
08:50whom own only 6% of the land at that time. This is the root cause of the issue.
08:56The root cause of the issue when the Israeli or the Jewish succeeded after tens of terror attacks,
09:03and I mean tens of terror attacks against the Palestinian villagers before 1948, succeeded to expel them and to ethnically
09:11cleanse them from their homeland.
09:13This is the root cause of the issue, and the other root cause of the issue when Israel succeeded to
09:19occupy the remaining part of Palestine, which is Gaza and West Bank.
09:23The root cause of the issue when Israel turned it back to the international law,
09:28the root cause of the issue when Israel is turning it back to the agreed resolution,
09:33the root cause of the issue when Israel turned it back to the also occurred in also occurred,
09:38we the Palestinian signed and accept and recognize the state of Israel and accept to build our state in only
09:4622%.
09:47The root cause of the issue when Israel did not stop expanding its settlement,
09:52did not stop killing the Palestinian people. This is the root cause of the issue.
09:57And now, how to, or what is the way out? The way out is very simple.
10:02When the international community come united to put an end to the Israeli occupation,
10:08or to enforce Israel to abide by the international law, to enforce Israel to abide by the agreement that it
10:15itself signed it with the Palestinians,
10:20to enforce the Israeli to stop its expansion and demolition of its settlement.
10:26This is the only way that, this is the only way that we can put an end to the Israeli
10:31occupation.
10:32When the international community, just let me close by saying that international community stopped the hypocrisy and the double standard.
10:40You cannot talk about peace and turning point in the Middle East,
10:44while the international community, Western country in particular, imposed 70,000 different types of sanctions against Russia during the last
10:53four years.
10:54And zero sanctions against Israel and the Israeli occupation and the Israeli fanatic Jewish settlers,
11:00who is killing the Palestinian people just to mention and just to post it in their social media.
11:06When the international community stopped the hypocrisy and double standard, the Israeli occupation will come to it.
11:15When it comes to the October 7 scenario, what happened on October 7th,
11:22Hamas, many say, brought it upon themselves, brought it upon Palestine and Gaza.
11:29How do you see this scenario as of now?
11:33Do you believe that Hamas bears the responsibility for triggering this current conflict?
11:39Again, is it conflict or Israeli occupation?
11:42This is the main question.
11:45This is the main question.
11:45Hamas entered first.
11:47I'm coming.
11:49Who was created first?
11:50Hamas or the Israeli occupation?
11:52This is very important.
11:54Hamas was created in 1987.
11:57The Israeli occupation to Gaza and West Bank in 19, 20 years before the establishment of Hamas.
12:03The expelling of Palestinian people was 39 years before the establishment of Hamas.
12:10This is your philosophy or your question when it came to the root cause.
12:16You cannot tackle the issue from the system.
12:18There is a root.
12:19There is a cause behind that.
12:21The other question, who created Hamas?
12:23Do you know who created Hamas?
12:25Israel.
12:27Do I reveal it?
12:28It's 100%.
12:29All of this information in Google.
12:31Just ask Google who created Hamas.
12:34What is the role of Israel in creating Hamas?
12:38Hamas was created at the hand of the Israeli occupation, mid-1970, as a way out to avoid
12:47sitting with the PLO, Palestine Liberation Organization, and to put an end to its occupation.
12:53So that, again, October 7th is a fact.
12:55And let me remind you and all of your audience by the speech that had been delivered by the Secretary
13:03-General of the United Nations, His Excellency Antonio Guterres, in October 24th, 2023,
13:10after he condemned Hamas attack and all of this stuff.
13:13But he referred it, and he said that, but it was not happening in a vacuum.
13:17So that, just to tackle the issue from October 7th, it's important, but it's not fair.
13:23It's not sufficient.
13:24We should differentiate between October 7th and October 6th.
13:27What happened to the Palestinian in October 7th?
13:30Anyone know what happened to the Palestinians in October 7th?
13:33Since January 1, 2023, up to Friday, October 6th, 2023, how many Palestinians have been slaughtered and killed?
13:43Anyone know?
13:44No.
13:44No.
13:45No.
13:45More than 400 Palestinians have been killed at the hands of the Israeli occupation.
13:51When the Palestinians demonstrate in 2017, 2018, peacefully demonstrate in defense of the Israeli at that day, Israel killed more
14:06than...
14:07It's a peaceful demonstration, killed more than 100 Palestinians.
14:11Anyone know about this?
14:12Anyone ask us about what happened in that day?
14:16Anyone ask us about the killing of the Palestinians just for fun at the hands of the Israeli occupation before
14:23October 7th?
14:24To be put in the social media, for the Israeli soldiers to be proud in their social media.
14:30Do you know that?
14:31It's a fact.
14:32All of this is fact.
14:33All of this is fact.
14:34All of this fact has been revealed and documented by the United Nations, Human Rights Council, and others.
14:40The other issue is the history was started in October 7th and ended in October 7th.
14:46Even if you want to measure that as if the history was started in October 7th.
14:51But it does not end at October 7th, at that exact day.
14:55This is very important, even for the people who are trying to say it was because of Hamas October 7th.
15:01And nothing justified October 7th.
15:04Which means the Palestinian misery that had been started at the British hand, November 2nd, 1917, up to October 7th,
15:13did not justify October 7th.
15:14But the other part of the question or the paragraph had not been completed.
15:19And October 7th should not and cannot justify the ongoing 986 days of the ongoing genocidal war and the killing
15:29of 73,000 Palestinians.
15:33Unicent Palestinians, 17,500 names, children.
15:39We have their names.
15:40How could you justify it?
15:41So that again, when it came to October 7th, it's a fact.
15:45We are not in agreement on it.
15:47We cannot be in agreement on it as a Palestinian official.
15:50But this is not the starting point of the history and should not be the ending point.
15:56This is our philosophy as Russian people.
15:59Yes, October 7th happened.
16:01We are not in agreement.
16:03Hamas miscalculated in October 7th.
16:05But it is not the starting point and it is not the ending point.
16:09Absolutely.
16:10I understand your concerns and the points that you make, Ambassador.
16:15There is one particular issue, the recent development about the Oslo Accord, the Hebron Accord.
16:23The Israeli minister says that it will be called off.
16:27Do you see this as a jolt to the two-stage solution?
16:34Is it effectively dead?
16:35When it came to the Oslo Accord, many of the Oslo Accord, all the Oslo Accord has been violated by
16:41the Israeli government.
16:43It's not only the recent declaration by the fanatic, messianic, maniac Israeli minister, Smolich, who declared that Hebron Accord or
16:53Hebron Accord had been terminated and there is no existence.
16:57Oslo Accord at large has been already violated.
17:00Every aspect in Oslo Accord had been violated by the Israeli occupation.
17:05Every aspect of the international law had been violated by the Israeli occupation.
17:10Every aspect, every single adopted resolution in the United Nations Security Council or in the United Nations General Assembly had
17:19been violated by Israel.
17:20Israel is treating itself as the country, as the state above the international law.
17:25This is fact so that it's not only Hebrew or the recent declaration by the Israeli.
17:31Every single issue, even the plan that they signed, the Trump plan to end the conflict in Gaza, they violated
17:39every single aspects of it.
17:41It called for a ceasefire.
17:43Is there a ceasefire in Gaza?
17:44Israel killed more than 1,000 Palestinians since they signed this agreement.
17:50Is there a sufficient amount of necessary food and humanitarian aid to enter Gaza?
17:56No, Israel violated.
17:57Even this very human issue, Israel is violated.
18:01Israel is supporting the attacks, the terror attacks that we are enduring in a daily pace.
18:07And let me repeat myself, we in West Bank endured, in a daily pace, many of the terror, tens of
18:14terror attacks at the hands of the Jewish Israeli settlers.
18:18Israel is providing them with the full support, with the military support, with the equipment that is needed to burn,
18:25to destroy.
18:25Israel did not abide by any single, any single dot of the international law or humanitarian law or agreed resolution.
18:41Also, Ambassador, when we talk about Israel, the proximity and the relationship with the United States,
18:48although we saw how America was willing to support Israel, and then it went down to Iran.
18:57Many say that America entered Iran war on pretext of Israel.
19:04Do you think that the Palestinian cause is up against not just Israelis, but United States also?
19:14Indeed, you mentioned, or I should tackle three parts of your question, U.S.-Israeli relation and the support.
19:22This is not my word.
19:23I'm not revealing a secret when I say that the United States of America provides Israel with $30.7 billion
19:30during the genocidal war
19:32to maintain the war and to maintain the killing of the Palestinian people.
19:35The United States of America, the United States of America, during the genocidal war, used its veto power in the
19:43United Nations Security Council six times,
19:46which means that the one who secured the slaughtering of the Palestinians.
19:50One word.
19:51The United States of America was part of this war.
19:54The one who secured the continuous slaughtering of the Palestinian people is the United States of America.
19:59This is not a secret. I'm not revealing a secret. This is the issue.
20:02The one who is protecting Israel, providing Israel with all the military support,
20:07before even Israel occupied West Bank and Gaza, is the United States of America.
20:15The United States of America has violated the international law when it is moved its embassy to the occupied Jerusalem.
20:24The United States of America.
20:26The United States of America stopped providing the UNRWA.
20:28The entity that they themselves created it for the Palestinian refugee in 19, created it.
20:35And I mean their initiative to create it in the 1950s to provide humanitarian aid to the Palestinian refugees.
20:45So that when we talk about U.S. and Israel, U.S. or the Iron Dome for the Israeli occupation
20:56of the Palestinian.
21:00So the support is there. I'm not revealing a secret.
21:03But when it came to the deal between the U.S.
21:11The recent deal or the recent memorandum of understanding, I think every single rational one,
21:18beast-lover one worldwide, should support this memorandum of understanding.
21:23And should spare no effort to make sure that this memorandum of understanding will be completed by signing
21:33a lasting and durable and sustained peace agreement between the two countries.
21:39The only one who stands against this peace agreement or memorandum of understanding is Israel.
21:44And it's in a declared position.
21:47Again, I'm not revealing a secret.
21:48Yes.
21:49The only one who was standing against it.
21:52When it came to the Palestinian issue and this, we are not against the Jewish because you said...
21:58Jewish settlers.
21:59Absolutely.
21:59No, no, no.
22:00We should differentiate between three things.
22:03Okay.
22:03Jewish, Israel, and the Israeli occupation.
22:07One hundred percent, we are not against the Jewish at all.
22:11Part of our supporters, one of my very first leader in the Ministry of Foreign,
22:16and the Minister of Planning and International Corporation is Ilan Halevi.
22:21He's a Jewish man.
22:22So that we have nothing against the Jewish.
22:24The Jewish is essential part of our resistance movement.
22:29And the vast majority of writers and supporters and intellectual people who are supporting the Palestinian question in the United
22:38States of America is Jewish people.
22:40Jewish is completely different.
22:41And part of us as a Palestinian people who is converted to Islam or to Christianity in the Middle East
22:48and in Palestine is originally Jewish people.
22:50So that we have nothing against the Jewish.
22:53When it came to the second issue, which is Israel, we have nothing against Israel.
22:57We already acknowledge the right of Israel to exist.
23:00We already, 33 years ago, we already signed Oslo Accord.
23:04In Oslo Accord, we accept to build our state in only 22% of our historical land, Palestine.
23:11This is the second aspect.
23:12The third aspect to see the Israeli occupation.
23:15And this is, I should be very clear, very loud and very clear.
23:19We will not be the slaves of the Israeli occupation.
23:23We will not be the slaves of the Jewish fanatic people at all.
23:28And we will continue by all means, peaceful means in particular, to resist the Israeli occupation.
23:34All means, when I say all means, all means that the international law allow us to use it.
23:40So that, yes, we are totally, utterly, as a rational people, we are against the Israeli occupation.
23:47Will you find anyone supporting the Israeli occupation?
23:51No, that's fair enough from the Palestinian side, yes sir.
23:54Thank you for clearing the air on the coexistence and the sanctity of Oslo Accord, which chose for coexistence.
24:03Ambassador, we are sitting here in New Delhi.
24:06And India has historically supported the Palestinian cause.
24:11I see pictures of our first Prime Minister, then Indira Gandhi also, Yassar Arafat.
24:17Yes.
24:17Hagat Singh.
24:19Jawaharlal Nehro.
24:20Jawaharlal Nehro.
24:21Yes, of course.
24:22All of this is our heroes.
24:23You will be surprised to know that Nehro, the word Nehro, the name Nehro, is very famous in Palestine.
24:29And you're going to find a lot of people whose name is Nehro.
24:33Oh, that's...
24:35That's Nehro.
24:36Jawaharlal Nehro.
24:38Jawaharlal Nehro.
24:39Gandhi himself is very famous and very key person to us.
24:43Many criticizes ideology also at times that he was one of those who...
24:47No, no.
24:48In this particular issue, thank you so much indeed.
24:51India, 100 years ago, had two schools of thought when it came how to resist the British
24:57colonization, colonial colony, and how to become a free.
25:02Two schools of thought.
25:03One school of thought, which is the very peaceful school of thought.
25:06Gandhi and philosophy.
25:10Which is, we all know about.
25:12Equally balanced, yes.
25:12And the other school of thought, of course, is the Bhagat Singh school of thought, which
25:16he believed at that time, the only way to be free is to use the military resistance.
25:21So that, this is two ideology, this is two schools of thought.
25:24Both of them.
25:25Achieving one, trying to achieve one.
25:27Both of them.
25:27Is to achieve one goal, is to gain freedom for India.
25:31And both of them is legitimate according to the international law.
25:34So, the question is, did Mahatma Gandhi condemn or turn his back to Bhagat Singh and the school
25:44of thought?
25:44No.
25:45Because it's a legitimate school of thought.
25:47Yes, there are two schools of thought.
25:49Likewise, it's not only in India and everywhere you're going to find that there are two schools
25:54of thought.
25:55I belong to the school of thought of Mahatma Gandhi, who was, and we still believe that,
26:00the only way to reach a peace and to gain our freedom is to buy peaceful resistance to
26:06the Israeli occupation.
26:08Absolutely.
26:08Let me just say something.
26:11They call us even a terrorist diplomat, liar, propaganda, making propaganda terrorist diplomat.
26:17My president, Abbas, is the one who signed Oslo.
26:20They call him a terrorist diplomat.
26:22He's the biggest terrorist diplomat worldwide according to him.
26:25So that it's the classification.
26:27It's there, whether it is you resist them by military or by peaceful measures, you are
26:34a terrorist as a Palestinian.
26:36Ambassador, interviews like this go a long way in clearing the air and also telling the
26:42world that we cannot just stick with one narrative.
26:45If someone calls anyone terrorist, we have to hear your side of the story also and that
26:51the world should know.
26:52That is the idea.
26:53I thank you so much indeed in shedding light in this issue.
26:58We are like you.
26:59We are enduring a lot of tarnish for our reputation.
27:03Let me be very frank.
27:05After October 7th, the Palestinians have been depicted as a Muslim, fanatic Muslim who's
27:11killing the innocent Israeli women and children, hijacking, abducting and all of this.
27:18This is not the reality.
27:19It was happened.
27:20We did not say that it was not happened.
27:22But for a question yet did not been asked about October 7th.
27:26Again, why?
27:28No one know why.
27:30No one asked us why.
27:32What happened in October 7th exactly?
27:35Anyone know what happened?
27:36We had been woke up to watch some video that had been revealed by the Palestinians when
27:41they are fighting against the Israeli military army.
27:45It was revealed and we acknowledge that.
27:48But also we had been woke up to hear the Prime Minister of Israel talking about 40 babies
27:55had been beheaded.
27:57Any single name of them yet to be revealed?
28:00No.
28:01No.
28:01Propaganda.
28:02We have been woke up to when the Prime Minister, the current fugitive from Justice, the Israeli
28:08Prime Minister said that many babies, many children had been born and burned in the oven
28:15in front of their family.
28:16Any single evidence that supported the sick name.
28:20Tens of claims had been distributed or propagated at that time.
28:27So that what happened in that day, we need to know as international community, as Palestinian,
28:32as Indian people who was affected by this event.
28:38And the question is, who can tell this story?
28:41The Israelis are falling off.
28:43And the Palestinian, I tell you, we are not able to investigate what happened in October
28:497th.
28:49So we call for an international community, international human rights, UN to create an investigation
28:56committee to come to investigate what happened in October 7th.
29:00So, first question, why?
29:02The root cause of the issue.
29:04Second, what?
29:05Third, who conducted it?
29:08Hamas.
29:09I cannot show you.
29:10But the question is, how Hamas conducted it?
29:14Do you think the Israeli surveillance, which is very sophisticated surveillance, they are
29:20selling it there, even in India, that had been utterly, totally collapsed in that exact
29:26morning.
29:26Do you think that Israel was not aware?
29:29There is a lot of evidence and reports inside Israel saying that we know that it will happen.
29:36We already know.
29:37The Egyptians, there is a lot of evidence that from the Israeli media say that the Egyptians
29:44alerted them.
29:45Israel is counting every breath on the Palestinians.
29:48Even meanwhile, I'm sitting with you right now.
29:51I am fully watched.
29:53I'm fully controlled.
29:54I'm fully under the 100%.
29:58I'm not revealing a secret.
30:00This is fact whether we like it or, yes, we did not like it.
30:03But this is the fact.
30:04All of our phones as Palestinians controlled is monitored.
30:08And there is a high traffic at that exact night.
30:12Friday, high traffic of messages.
30:15Everyone in Gaza, everything ignored.
30:18So what?
30:20Why?
30:21Root cause.
30:23What happened?
30:24Who?
30:24Hamas.
30:25But who facilitated?
30:27Who's strengthening Hamas during the last 17 days, 17 years?
30:32Israel.
30:33Who was providing Hamas with the Qatarian money?
30:36The current Israeli fidget from Justice Prime Minister.
30:40It's a fact.
30:40I'm not revealing a secret.
30:42So why?
30:44What?
30:45Who?
30:46And where?
30:47The last question that we should ask ourselves.
30:50Where it should take us?
30:52What is the future?
30:54This is very important.
30:55Not for us as Palestinians, for the Israeli upcoming generation,
31:00and for you all worldwide.
31:01We witness that the consequence of this war is the war in Iran.
31:07And when it came to the war with Iran or on Iran, you, the Indian people,
31:12had been severely affected when all the kitchens had suffered from lack of the gas
31:20and also the economic consequence of the war.
31:24True.
31:25Since you mentioned India, I will continue with the thought that I started with.
31:30India's connect with the Palestinian cause is there.
31:34It's historic.
31:34Also, India has closer ties with Israel.
31:39You, as the ambassador to Palestine, from Palestine to India,
31:43what are your expectations from the government of India?
31:46Is there something that the government is not doing that it shall do?
31:50Or as of now, the stand of India is clear in your view?
31:55When it came to the political level, yes, the Indian stand is very clear to us.
32:00They are supporting the two-state solution, still supporting the Palestinian cause in the United Nations itself.
32:08A lot of, they are voting in favor for our resolution in the United Nations.
32:13And much to talk about the positive stance of India towards the Palestinian.
32:17But as you rightly mentioned, yes, India having a very good and very strong relation with Israel.
32:23Also, let us remember that India is one of the biggest economies in the world.
32:28India, 1.4 billion human beings.
32:31India is the largest democracy worldwide.
32:35So that it's a liability, it's a responsibility, not only privilege for the Indian people.
32:42You should be very proud.
32:44You are the Indian people, you are the Bollywood, you are the one who is exporting or feeding the whole
32:49entire world.
32:50The vast majority of the medicine and tablets and issues related to the health is produced in India.
32:58It's something privileged for India and the Indian people.
33:02But this is also a liability.
33:04So that, based on that, and as we, as a Palestinian, and in the South at large,
33:09every, all the nation in the South, the vast majority of the South,
33:13is still looking and used to look and still looking to India as the bigger brother.
33:17And this is, again, liability.
33:18This is responsibility.
33:20Yes, we believe India is our bigger brother.
33:22Not only in Palestine, many of the Southern countries still strongly believe this is India.
33:27And India is a champion of the South.
33:30India, one of the leader of BRICS.
33:33All of this gave India, yes, a privilege.
33:36Gave you, as Indian people, a privilege.
33:38But this is responsibility.
33:39It's not only privilege.
33:41I was there in the United Nations.
33:43When India was there, when the Indian colleagues dig their heels and want to say,
33:48yes, we are there, India was there.
33:52And India is still looking to be a permanent member of the Security Council.
33:57This means that India should and must play a crucial role when it came to the peace at large.
34:03And they can do.
34:04And when it came to the peace process, and especially they have this good relation with the two parties,
34:10with the Arab parties, with the Palestinian party, and the Israeli part.
34:13So that they can play a crucial role in this particular issue.
34:17And we look to India to play a very crucial role in the peace process between us and the Israelis.
34:25All right. Ambassador, one final question I'll take from you.
34:28Any message for Benjamin Netanyahu, who I think is feeling left out after this Iran-US accord or the possible
34:37accord, the possible deal?
34:39We also hear that Israel is bombing Lebanon, which was clearly not acceptable to Iran.
34:46Do you think Benjamin Netanyahu needs to slow down or change his strategy and look at things from a global
34:54perspective and not just a minuscule view?
34:56No, no, he will not change his perspective.
34:59You know that once he will lose the share of, as a political man, he and most probably his wife
35:05and his son will go to be jailed, to stand to trade and to be jailed.
35:11So that the only way that he's still outside the cell of the jail is to be in the political
35:17position.
35:18Also, let us remember that Netanyahu was born and raised in a fanatic family.
35:25His father was very fanatic and his father was one of the key figures of hating the Arab and the
35:31Palestinian and the Muslims.
35:33It's in a fax, you can find it.
35:35So that this may mean that he, this fidget from Justice, the current Israeli prime minister, with his other fanatic
35:44and with the other fanatic maniacs in his government,
35:48will spare no effort to sabotage the current memorandum of understanding that had been signed recently between US and Iran.
35:58But the issue that we should also be extra aware of is that the Israeli election is getting very close
36:07and very soon.
36:08So that, and when it came to the Israeli election, we as a Palestinian will experience in this, will expert
36:15in this regard.
36:16And we know that the fuel of the Israeli election is the Palestinian blood.
36:21Now there is another source for the blood, which is the Lebanese blood and the Iranian blood.
36:26So that the upcoming election, this current fidget from Justice, Israeli prime minister, to save his blah, blah, blah, his
36:40seat.
36:41He will spare no effort to launch another war in Gaza again, to expand and to extend the yellow line,
36:49which is now is contained 70% of Gaza, to launch another war, devastating and heavy attack against the Lebanese.
36:58And the prime, and the US president said that he's used to destroy one building or the buildings.
37:07He mentioned a lot of words, and Jay Vance, of course, mentioned a very strong word against him and against
37:13Israel,
37:13so that we should be extra aware of monitoring every single Israeli move in the upcoming days.
37:20Israel and the current fidget from Justice will spare no effort to sabotage the deal between America and Iran.
37:27Israel and all the Israeli political parties, whom is moving or competing for the upcoming election,
37:36they have one fuel to make sure that the Israelis will go to support them and to gain more seats,
37:44which is the Palestinian blood.
37:46Right, a tried and tested method, put the country in war and win the elections.
37:50We have seen this happening before also.
37:53Ambassador Abdullah M Abu Chavez, thank you so much for speaking to One India.
37:58Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Palestine and with your team as well.
38:02Thank you so much again, Bankaj, for having me and many thanks to One India News at large.
38:09Please don't hesitate you and all of your colleagues to come every once in a while.
38:14There is much to talk about it, especially when it came to the history and the root cause of the
38:19issue.
38:20That I really thank you for shedding light of the root cause of the issue.
38:23The world needs to know. That's why.
38:26It's very fair. And I used to say that even my message to the mainstream media here in India, and
38:33I'm not revealing a secret.
38:34Unfortunately, the mainstream in India is used to receive the Israeli ambassador.
38:40But yet some of them even did not allow me to pay them in a courtesy visit.
38:45It's the exact time to listen to us. This is a big book.
38:50This book have two chapters, the Israeli chapter and the Palestinian.
38:53The Israeli chapter, you already, as an Indian media, you already receiving the ambassador of the Israeli occupation to reveal
39:03or to shed light or to propagate, so to speak, about his chapter.
39:07But yet there is another chapter. It's very fair. It's very legitimate to listen to us as a Palestinian.
39:13Listen to us. We have a story. Listen to the other part of this book.
39:17Yes, yes, yes. One India is just a call away, sir. I assure you.
39:22Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
39:22Sure. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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