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90 Day: The Last Resort - Between the Sheets - Season 2 - Episode 15
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00:00One, let's cross, spin, and slide.
00:07You're a better dancer than me.
00:13OK, this is never before seen.
00:16Oh, boy.
00:22What's your plan?
00:23If Brandon decides to leave and we will be divorced,
00:27I'm not going to be staying in this country.
00:28I don't have anybody except Brandon here.
00:30So we see a lazy person who doesn't
00:33be incapable to build friends.
00:34Get a degree, find a job, do something.
00:40You're the one that's seen him behind my back.
00:43You're the cheater.
00:44If I've been cheating on you, like, huh,
00:47you wouldn't even know because you're an idiot.
00:49You have one gringo to be a husband,
00:52and another gringo to .
00:55American dream, baby.
01:01He still doesn't seem to be satisfied,
01:03and I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying.
01:05I don't want to do it.
01:07I may have heard something.
01:09Oh, my God, you heard the same.
01:10I heard that Josh has an official girlfriend
01:12that lives in his house.
01:13And the girl is a younger version of Natalie.
01:18It would be nice to find out, wouldn't it?
01:19It would be nice to find out.
01:20Let's go.
01:22Let's go.
01:22Let's go.
01:22Let's go.
01:23Let's go.
01:25Write down things that you trust about your partner.
01:28Florian, what'd you put?
01:30Everything, to be honest.
01:31But if you could give us just one specific,
01:33suggest you something, I trust her, you know?
01:36Florian liked to pretend like there was no problem.
01:39She just kind of sugarcoats everything, like, everything's OK.
01:41Everything's fine.
01:42No, it's not.
01:43That's why we're here.
01:43Do you know, what did you put?
01:46I trust that Jasmine loves me.
01:51I am so shocked that we didn't stop and talk about this.
01:54I don't believe that he feels loved by Jasmine.
01:57He's lying to himself if he believes that.
02:00And I wanted to call bull on it.
02:07Yeah, yeah.
02:09No.
02:12OK.
02:14It's time for clips.
02:17We're going to have a games.
02:31Cool.
02:33All right, we are going to start with the night
02:35you were all out at the social hall.
02:36And, Gino, you had just gotten into a fight with Jasmine.
02:39This is the end of the night, and the van rides back home.
02:43Ooh.
02:44Uh-oh.
02:45What does Gino?
02:46I don't know.
02:47He said that I cheated on him.
02:48Why?
02:49Did you not cheat?
02:50No, never.
02:51She doesn't cheat.
02:53She's perfect and innocent.
02:55Oh.
02:56I never.
02:56If I was cheating, I'd say, look, I look like a cheater.
02:59No.
02:59I swear.
03:00You are queen.
03:02We got you, Jazzy.
03:04Do I think Jasmine already hooked up with a guy?
03:09Well, if he's already on a picture and she's considering him,
03:14there is a possibility she could already hook up with him.
03:17She definitely sees us as an option.
03:20Everything's being exposed while we're here.
03:23And you know what?
03:23It's for the better because we need to know the truth.
03:27I imagine in this time when he say cheer, I mean, like, cheer give you options.
03:31Give intimacy or have an open marriage.
03:35You don't choose any.
03:36You don't want to be with this person and doesn't want to this person be with anybody.
03:40So it's exactly he treating her in this moment like a, like, she are toy.
03:46He can play with this and now not play.
03:48And no, not anybody going to play with my toy.
03:51I mean, that's fair enough.
03:54It really hurt me.
03:55I was being vulnerable to him.
03:57He said, you fail me, you cheater.
04:00But he's not even having sex with you.
04:02Exactly.
04:02I don't understand.
04:03Well, you're not having sex with Rob.
04:05Get out of here.
04:05Because, yeah.
04:06Right.
04:07But Jasmine, you guys don't understand how she treats me at home one-on-one.
04:11She's the devil.
04:13I don't understand, you know.
04:14I don't.
04:15On camera, I hate to say it, but the way you see Jasmine and the way you know her.
04:19And she's a very fun personality and she can make you feel good.
04:24But you guys have no idea what I go through behind closed doors on a daily basis with Jasmine.
04:31It's completely the opposite.
04:32After marriage, Amanda went all downhill.
04:34She had no interest in me whatsoever.
04:37She didn't want to go do anything with me.
04:39She didn't want to travel.
04:41She was not into me whatsoever.
04:43So, if you really feel that way, like that Jasmine is, you know, really coming after you
04:49when these cameras are off, why are you trying to continue to fight for this marriage?
04:55Well, the thing is, is that I love Jasmine.
04:59Okay?
04:59I love her.
05:00And marriage is not, you know, it's a long-term commitment.
05:04I was really hoping this whole couples therapy would get us back to a place of love, like
05:09we, you know, that we would have a chance together.
05:14You sound like a hopeless romantic right now is what you sound like.
05:21Jasmine pulled me aside and she wanted to talk to me.
05:23Then she started pushing the open relationship and I asked her, do you have a person in mind
05:30that you want to have this open relationship with?
05:32And she says, yes.
05:34She's got a guy in mind.
05:36Some dude from her gym.
05:38I mean, I don't necessarily fault Jasmine for a lot of the things because I don't think
05:43Gino has been a good partner to her.
05:45Even with the therapy, he's not willing to admit faults.
05:48So, it's kind of like, you have two people who are doing bad things in the relationship.
05:54Essentially, it boils down to, I think that they're both wrong in this situation.
06:06Jasmine made the right choice, not including me,
06:08on their FaceTime chat because I would have snitched immediately.
06:11If something's like clearly cheating, I mean, it's like, come on, like,
06:15it's a marriage retreat.
06:15I'm going to snitch.
06:16I'm sorry, I understand.
06:17Why would I not tell anyone that?
06:19And it's some great tea.
06:21Like, of course, I'm going to tell people.
06:22How do you look at this guy?
06:24Look at Floriano trying to get the scoop.
06:27He, like, have a big muscle.
06:29He looks like another man.
06:30That's what he looks like.
06:31He looks like someone else.
06:32Honestly, I FaceTimed with Matt, too.
06:34I was there.
06:34And, yeah, he's a different kind of look than Gino.
06:39I mean, he's definitely the more muscular, fitness-type guy.
06:42Oh, wow.
06:43Yeah.
06:43But, you know, I feel like I would never say that to Gino's face.
06:47Oh, big muscle.
06:48Yes.
06:49That is .
06:50Kind of like mine?
06:52No, bigger.
06:53Oh, bigger.
06:54No way.
06:54I don't believe that.
06:55Bitch!
06:57Julia.
06:58Julia have a big mouth.
07:00Gino said he doesn't want to know what this guy looks like.
07:01Gino don't want to know.
07:02So why are you guys torturing him with this information?
07:04Yeah, I really don't care.
07:05This girl comes with the information.
07:07I think that she does it, and she's not even aware of what she's doing.
07:11Because I was like, girl, just look at Gino's face.
07:14He's so freaking pissed.
07:16And she kept saying, like, oh, yeah, big muscle.
07:19I saw him.
07:20Big muscle.
07:21Look at my poor Gino.
07:23He has no muscles.
07:25Of course he's going to feel threatened.
07:27I could get the muscular guy, but this is what I'm attracted to because I have daddy issues.
07:34And I like guys that look like grandpa's.
07:37I don't want to be with someone that has somebody preselected already, you know, that's cheating
07:43on me.
07:45That I don't want.
07:46I can tell you that.
07:51Okay, Reba, we're going to watch never before seen footage.
07:54This is Jasmine and Gino in their hotel.
07:57After the social hall.
07:58Oh, no.
08:00They are obviously very upset and mad at me.
08:04Yeah, I'm pissed off for good reason.
08:07I told them that I was serious about the open marriage idea and that I even had a friend
08:14that could potentially, you know, be part of this.
08:22Yeah, that's really weird.
08:23Gino's response is perfectly logical when we consider the emotions that come up when
08:29our spouse says, hey, I have a new friend or I have someone that I'm getting close to,
08:33especially when we want to be closer to them.
08:35So I can understand, like, you know, his anxiety, his fear is going off right now.
08:41Like, oh, oh, someone is taking up the space that I vacated.
08:45That wasn't what I expected.
08:47What's happening now?
08:48I don't like this.
08:49So, yeah, I can totally understand Gino's response.
08:53I can understand the insecurity behind it, right?
08:57But much of it is his own making.
09:00You're with this guy and you're introducing him to other people that we're doing therapy
09:05with?
09:05To other people is my closest friend.
09:08What a joke.
09:09This is so ridiculous.
09:12This is the person you've chosen.
09:14You even told me at the bar that this is the guy.
09:17It's not about Matt.
09:17Forget about him.
09:18It has nothing to do with him.
09:20It's about, like, how we are going to solve the issue that we have in our marriage,
09:24you know?
09:24You know, knowing that Jasmine was talking to other people about Matt, it made me realize
09:30that, you know, they had some kind of emotional connection and that really gave me a lot of
09:37concern.
09:38I feel like Jasmine's building a relationship, like an actual full-blown relationship.
09:44So that's why I'm saying, like, if you were in an open marriage and you decided, okay,
09:48let's do this, like, maybe we're swingers or maybe, you know, it's okay to go, you know,
09:52have sex with somebody and we'll come back because you're my partner.
09:56We have that emotional connection.
09:58Right.
09:58If you open that door and it's Matt, she's never come back.
10:02I'm like, what the is going on here?
10:05I mean...
10:06Yeah, it's pretty disrespectful, to be honest.
10:08So you haven't already been...
10:09No, Gino, listen.
10:11It's not about...
10:11This is not about Matt.
10:13This is about you and me.
10:15Oh, look at Gino's face.
10:18Yeah, you can sleep in there.
10:19I'm going to sleep in here because I'm really not in the mood to talk right now.
10:24Me either.
10:25Let's say that I was cheating, okay?
10:27It was a perfect affair.
10:29My husband was not aware.
10:30So why then, if I was having the perfect affair and I was getting the sex that I've been craving
10:37all this time, you know, why would I expose myself there and give you all the details
10:44about who this person is, how did I meet him, when I seen him, you know, why?
10:51I wouldn't even be at the retreat.
10:53I wouldn't give a .
10:54You know, I would be like, no, we're fine.
10:56I don't know.
10:59I have one gringo to be a husband and another gringo to .
11:06American dream, baby.
11:08You're the one that's seen him behind my back.
11:10You're the cheater.
11:12If I've been cheating on you, like, huh, you wouldn't even know because you're an idiot.
11:20Okay, this was never before seen Natalie talking with Darcy in the pool at the resort.
11:27Are they wearing bikinis?
11:29Yeah, I'm such a pervert.
11:34Do you feel like you could be yourself around him?
11:36Like, you know, authentically you?
11:39With Josh, I feel like I constantly wear a mask.
11:42So I'm constantly thinking, like, do I look pretty?
11:46It makes me feel sad that Natalie has to pretend to be someone that she is not just to please
11:53an idiot.
11:54I feel for Natalie, but I'm not really sure why she's trying to change herself to fit this guy
11:59because he's made it clear from the beginning he's not that interested in her.
12:02He's just not that into you.
12:04He never seen me without makeup.
12:06I always try to change attitude style.
12:09And I cut myself on a soul that I'm trying to entertain him.
12:15She feels like she has to put on an act in some ways.
12:19Hmm.
12:20She's presenting a different side, I think, than what people get to see of her.
12:24But I just want to relax, I want to be myself.
12:27Right.
12:27And I'm very introvert, like Stacey, to be honest.
12:31Okay.
12:34I'm like, I started drinking alcohol, I started smoking.
12:37I've never done it.
12:38I do it because I want to belong.
12:40Hmm.
12:43Let's be so for real.
12:44Like, Stacey's actually a sweet, like, kind, like, home party type person.
12:49Natalie, I'm like, no, she's just straight lying in Darcy's face.
12:53I think she would do that with any guy.
12:56But...
12:56You get to see this side right now?
12:58Well...
12:58You're so open and...
12:59Darcy, it's so, like...
13:00...reasonly vulnerable.
13:01But why do I have to, like, change myself so much just to be accepted?
13:06She doesn't need to do anything extra to impress me, you know?
13:10Especially not drinking and smoking.
13:13Like, I mean, I don't even drink.
13:15That's an excuse for, you know, something that maybe now she likes.
13:20Like, it had nothing to do with me.
13:22So that's all.
13:23I mean, I'm just looking for support on my end is really all I want.
13:26I feel like the mask was actually for Darcy.
13:31Whatever he's fixing, it's not even me there.
13:33It's some fake image I created in order to be accepted and likable by him.
13:39He doesn't even know me real.
13:41Sometimes I think I'm like a child that never grows old.
13:44And I was trying to fit in and change myself and...
13:49Because I felt like if you love, you have to sacrifice yourself.
13:52You have to adjust.
13:53So when I was with Michael, I was trying to adjust to countryside life.
13:59And when Josh and I started dating, I was, like, really in love.
14:02Because he was completely different from Mike.
14:05And for me, it was, like, something new.
14:09I was so fascinated by his world.
14:11I was trying to be a flashy girl and I was trying to live this flashy life.
14:17I was trying so hard, but it wasn't me.
14:21He still doesn't seem to be satisfied with me.
14:25And I'm, like, trying and trying and trying.
14:27I don't want to do it.
14:29I don't.
14:30The work that we did allowed me to see her in a completely different light.
14:36She really brought to surface what she was dealing with when it comes to childhood traumas.
14:44There's some parallels here with Josh and maybe her father.
14:48Some similarities with the lack of emotional connection or being available.
14:53Whether she's defensive, whether she's calling people names.
14:57You know, whether she feels isolated or lonely.
15:01You know, whether she doesn't know how to act around Josh or, you know, these ladies.
15:05I could see it stemming from childhood stuff.
15:08But it makes sense as to maybe the type of men that she's with.
15:12The type of relationship she's in.
15:15And this concept of being emotionally available for her.
15:18It was going to be an uphill battle no matter what.
15:22First of the game, it's called Fill in the Blanks.
15:24Fill in the Blanks.
15:25Fill in the Blanks.
15:26I like that game.
15:27You are holding a card with a story on it.
15:30However, there are blanks there that you are going to have Rob fill in.
15:34And it will come up with a lovely last resort story.
15:38Sound good?
15:39Sounds good.
15:40Yeah.
15:41Great.
15:42So Gino, give me a type of therapy.
15:44How about sex therapy?
15:46Ooh.
15:46How did I know you were going to say that?
15:48Tell me a place at the resort.
15:51Jacuzzi.
15:52Oh.
15:52We're starting strong.
15:54I'm a person from last resort.
15:56Let's go with Josh.
15:58Give me an adjective.
16:01Adjective?
16:01Yeah.
16:03Y'all putting me in middle school vocabulary class all over again.
16:08Something describing something.
16:12Beautiful blue eyes.
16:14Give me another person from last resort.
16:17How about Sophie?
16:19Oh boy.
16:20A verb ending in ing.
16:23What?
16:24Yeah baby.
16:26Desert animal.
16:27I will do armadillo.
16:29A donkey.
16:30Of course Josh.
16:32Now I need a verb.
16:34Masturbate.
16:35I love your verbs.
16:37Masturbate.
16:38Yeah.
16:38Ask Gino.
16:40That's very late.
16:41That's an action verb.
16:42Okay.
16:43An emotion.
16:45Is horny an emotion?
16:46Another person, but not exclusively from last resort, but from any 90 day show.
16:53Darcy.
16:54Yes.
16:57A verb.
16:58Coming.
17:03Give me an amount of time.
17:05Less than an hour.
17:0717 seconds.
17:10And another verb.
17:13Farting.
17:13Farting.
17:14Yeah.
17:14That's the answer.
17:15Farting.
17:16All right.
17:16Everybody ready for it?
17:17Let's hear it.
17:18Bedtime story, last resort bedtime story.
17:20Okay baby.
17:21This is your magnificent story.
17:23Mm-hmm.
17:24Today at hypnotherapy, Josh revealed a boring secret.
17:32Yeah.
17:33Yesterday at the bathroom, they saw Jasmine running an armadillo with Benny.
17:39Running an armadillo?
17:40Yeah.
17:41Okay.
17:41Okay.
17:42Heidi asked, how did that make you feel?
17:45And Josh said, horny.
17:46Okay.
17:47Okay.
17:48It's getting good.
17:50James said, great work everyone for homework tonight.
17:53I want you to for your partner for 17 seconds.
17:58Yeah.
18:00All the couples are hanging out at the jacuzzi.
18:05Jasmine is with Ari.
18:07Everyone is having a good time until Josh starts crying and admits that in China, he masturbated with Darcy.
18:17Ah!
18:18The whole group is crying.
18:20But then Benny takes off his lingerie and everyone starts sardines.
18:28Wow.
18:29All I can say is wow.
18:33Yesterday at the hot tub, they saw Sophie flirting with Josh.
18:44Oh God.
18:45Reba asked, how did that make you feel?
18:48Oh.
18:49And Natalie said, shocked.
18:51Oh God.
18:53James said, great work everyone.
18:56For homework tonight, I want you to bang your partner for less than an hour.
19:07That might be the worst story.
19:09This is Julia waking up Rob and Sophie after the night at the bar.
19:14Here go Julia.
19:15Imposing herself into something.
19:18Good morning.
19:20Bright and shine.
19:21Oh, you're so cute.
19:23Come here, mommy and daddy.
19:25You're looking at like, what the ?
19:26I'm really like, why is this man's wife in my bed, yo?
19:31Thank you guys for letting me sleep here.
19:33No problem.
19:34Yeah, for sure.
19:35Have you spoken to Brandon?
19:36No, since yesterday, I've not seen him, not spoke with him at all.
19:40Yesterday, he said he got home today.
19:42If he divorces you because like, he's angry that your parents are coming,
19:46then that shows you all you need to know, that he's not a supportive person for you.
19:51Hanging out with Brandon and Julia, it does feel like Julia is the one in control
19:54because she's, you know, really loud, Brandon doesn't really speak,
19:57and it seems like she probably runs the relationship.
19:59But after seeing his reactions to things, it feels like he actually behind closed doors
20:04is the one running everything, and like, it's Brandon's way off the highway.
20:07Like, he's going to leave just because she wants some family support around her.
20:11Like, even though like, Rob had issues with my mom, he never threatened to leave me over it.
20:15It feels like, as long as Brandon's getting what he wants, they're great.
20:19But as soon as Julia is like, oh, actually I need this, he has like a tantrum.
20:23I don't know, like a man tantrum.
20:26What's your plan?
20:27If Brandon decides to leave, and that is going to be, we broke up,
20:30and we will be divorcing, I'm not going to be staying in this country.
20:34I don't have anybody except Brandon here.
20:36Yeah.
20:37I feel like Julia, she had all power and abilities to socialize with people,
20:44to join some community.
20:46So we see a lazy person who doesn't even capable to build friends.
20:51What we see.
20:53So it's not about being married and being supported by the man,
20:57it's about your own abilities and your own willingness to survive
20:59and not rely on other people.
21:02Get a degree, find a job, do something.
21:07Okay, we're now going to watch Gino and Jasmine the morning after the bar
21:11where they talk about Matt.
21:13Mm-hmm.
21:14Gino, there is a therapy session today.
21:18Are we going or, because according to what you said last night,
21:22like, we should be leaving as Benny and Ari did.
21:26Well, I mean, you like, you really broke my heart yesterday.
21:31I feel really bad for Gino.
21:33I mean, when he's saying, he's like, you broke my heart.
21:35He said it multiple times and she still was just like, eh, like,
21:39that's really sad.
21:40And he's trying to be vulnerable with her and she doesn't care.
21:42Like, I wish Gino would just see in this moment, like,
21:45she wants permission to be with someone else
21:48and still keep you around.
21:50And she's going to manipulate you until you say yes
21:53and then you're unhappy.
21:54Give me more information about who this person is.
21:56Okay, his name is Matt.
21:57Have you been to his house?
21:58No, I haven't.
21:59So where do you guys go, like, after the gym?
22:01Where have you been going with him?
22:03Uh-oh.
22:05To the cafe that is in front of the gym.
22:07It kind of looked like, you know, Jasmine was hiding a few things.
22:12You know, I don't feel like she's just being very honest.
22:15I have. I have different things to be honest.
22:17For me, I have different view.
22:19For me, I think Gino should do sex with her.
22:22And Jasmine, and one second.
22:24And Jasmine, no, like, change.
22:25Yeah.
22:26Divorce with her.
22:27I don't know.
22:29Sorry, are you attracted to this guy?
22:31Am I attracted to him?
22:32But I see him as a friend.
22:33I'm not in love.
22:34Yeah.
22:35Jesus, I hope you're not in love.
22:38I want us to be together.
22:40I don't want to get divorced.
22:42Gino questioning at that moment was fair enough.
22:44You know, asking if I had an emotional connection with Matt.
22:48And I cannot lie.
22:50He was driving me to the gym and driving me from the gym back home.
22:54And he was asking, like, if I needed groceries.
22:57Many times, he bought me some vegan food.
23:00And he was emotionally and sometimes even financially supporting me in ways that Gino didn't want to.
23:08So, how wouldn't I grow a bond with a person that being nothing but supportive?
23:15Baby, please.
23:16I haven't cheated on you, and it hurts me that you're accusing me.
23:18And all I did was to be honest to you.
23:21He's a friend.
23:24It takes a lot of courage to come to your partner who's withholding sex from you and say, hey, I
23:29want to be in an open relationship.
23:31I think it takes even more courage to say, I want to be in an open relationship and I have
23:35somebody that I'm willing to entertain if you're willing.
23:39And I can understand her hurt because she comes from a very vulnerable place in that moment.
23:45And she's like, look, I want this.
23:47I want this for me and I want this for us.
23:50And he's like, you're a cheater.
23:51You cheated on me.
23:52And it's like, hey, I could have.
23:55But I'm being vulnerable with you right now.
23:57And you're attacking me.
23:59And so I can understand how that hurt.
24:02Because she's trying to do the right thing.
24:05And he's not making it easy.
24:08Bring back thick Josh.
24:10He looked way better without the Botox.
24:12Oh, yeah.
24:13He got Botox?
24:14He got Botox.
24:15Like recently?
24:16We don't know.
24:17The whole retreat, he had it.
24:18Because before, he had a cute face.
24:19He was so cute.
24:20It was a little bit chubby.
24:22Yeah, he was like a cheeky cheeky.
24:23He looked better before.
24:25Yeah, he looked super young.
24:26He looked better a little bit thick.
24:29All right, we're now going to watch some of the trust therapy.
24:31This was the icebreaker exercise.
24:34Okay.
24:35We're going to get into a trust building icebreaker.
24:38Heidi and I are going to grab some notebooks, pens.
24:41And we're going to talk about writing down things that you trust about your partner.
24:46We may not have trust in the big, huge things at this moment.
24:49But we have trust, which is a foundation, right?
24:52So we have the couples come up with something that they trust about each other.
24:56The point is, is to remind them that it's not all negative.
25:00That just because I may not trust you in this one area, doesn't mean I don't trust you across the
25:05board in other areas.
25:06I think when your trust is broken, for some people, it's easy to hate them in every components of their
25:12life.
25:12And it's important to remember that they may be a great father.
25:15They might be a really good, you know, worker or, you know, person of support.
25:21But at the end of the day, they need to see that their significant other likes them or trusts them
25:26about something else.
25:27Rob and Sophie. Sophie, let's start with you.
25:33Um, I put, I trust my partner will look after our son.
25:39After our son? Our dog. Our, oh.
25:43All she can think of is that she can trust that I'll take care of the dog that was already
25:46mine.
25:47I was offended. I was offended.
25:49Because I'm like, there's actually an easy list of things you could have said.
25:53One thing that on the baseline level that Sophie could have said is that, yeah, I would, of course, protect
25:57her.
25:58And I will, of course, pay all the bills.
26:00And I will, of course, make sure that she got food in her stomach.
26:02I wish that she would have gave me credit for one real thing. For once.
26:08Florian, what would you put?
26:11Everything, to be honest.
26:13If you could give us just one specific, give us one detail.
26:18It's not come to my mind right now, you know?
26:20I think that Florian's statement was bull , to be honest with you.
26:23Like, you trust every single thing about your person.
26:26Like, I find that most couples have little areas in their relationships where there are parts that they don't trust.
26:31I think that's just a safe answer.
26:33And you know what? Florian has always been able to get away with this.
26:37Stacy's willing to take crumbs from Florian.
26:39Like, he just gives a little bit of information, and she takes it and builds it into something bigger than
26:44it is.
26:45And that's what she's taught him, that it's okay to give a little.
26:48And now you hear her say things like she wants more, but she's willing to take less.
26:55One thing? You can think of one thing?
26:58With everything, like, we suggest you something, I trust her, you know?
27:05He's copping out.
27:07And I found it funny.
27:10Florian liked to pretend like there was no problem.
27:13I mean, it goes to show, in all the therapy sessions, he just kind of sugarcoats everything, like, everything's okay,
27:18everything's fine.
27:19No, it's not. That's why we're here.
27:21He says he trusts everything with me.
27:23Well, okay, well, then why was he always blowing up my phone when we were dating long distance?
27:29He didn't trust me with, like, dancing with Benny.
27:31He doesn't trust me with, you know, the credit card.
27:36He's always like, well, how much you spend? Where'd you go?
27:38He doesn't trust me packing bags, packing my suitcases.
27:43So I don't think he's being, like, up front with everything.
27:48Brandon, what did you write down?
27:50I trust that Julia will do what it takes to see our family prosper.
27:55Oh, look at me. I'm so pretty here.
27:57You trust that she wants the best for your family?
28:00His best for our family. She's always gonna do that.
28:02That's a big one. I see it every day.
28:03I love that.
28:04What did you write down, Julia?
28:06I don't know, it's probably not so big, but I really trust him driving car.
28:11Because I can relax, and I can go sleep, and I can...
28:15That's actually huge.
28:16The big one. Safety.
28:17Safety, yes.
28:18Yeah, I feel safe with him.
28:20But he doesn't feel safe with me when I drive.
28:24Julia has failed her driving test multiple times.
28:27I'm an almost killed instructor.
28:33We don't have yield in Russia.
28:35So, and I didn't know what is yield in me, and I'm like,
28:38okay, green, go.
28:40And I can go, and she's like, what the ?
28:43Being in the car with her, I can't relax and, like,
28:47look at something on my phone or do anything,
28:49because I'm, like, I'm looking around her
28:51to make sure she doesn't hit anything, or...
28:54It's scary. It really is.
28:59Do you know, what did you put?
29:02I trust that Jasmine loves me.
29:09I am so shocked that we didn't stop and talk about this,
29:13because honestly, I find this to be ridiculous,
29:16and I don't believe that he feels loved by Jasmine.
29:20Not with all the words that she says to him.
29:22He claims time and time again that the word she says to him
29:28is why he can't have sex with her.
29:30So that would make this statement false.
29:33And I think that he just blew smoke, and everyone took it,
29:37and we moved on.
29:38So, you know, I wish that I could go back,
29:41because I would change that.
29:42I think that we kind of glossed over it,
29:44and it needed to be addressed, because honestly,
29:46he's lying to himself if he believes that,
29:49and I wanted to call bull on it.
29:54All right, ladies, it is game time!
29:57Yay!
29:58Remember when you all did bandage therapy?
30:01Yes.
30:01You had to create a bandage or a solution
30:03to communicate your problems
30:05and fix your relationship with your partner.
30:07But we have a twist on it for a fun new game.
30:10One of you will have to bandage the other one up
30:11with these toilet paper rolls,
30:13and whoever does it fastest wins.
30:15Like, bandage from the top to toes.
30:17Bandage from the top to toes as fast as you can.
30:21Over the heels!
30:23Do you want to take your heel off?
30:24Yeah, I want to win.
30:25Who's going to money who?
30:27I'm smaller, so let's get me.
30:29All right, Flo, throw those toilet papers over there.
30:32I got you.
30:33Take all, everything for you.
30:35You're too generous, thank you.
30:36I know, that's why you chose me for open marriage.
30:38On your mark, get set, go!
30:43Now...
30:43Go, go, go, go, go.
30:45You start spinning to your right.
30:47Oh, yeah, your left, your left.
30:48I was about to say.
30:49No, I can't, I can't.
30:50Hold it, hold it, hold it.
30:52Yeah.
30:54Christmas tree.
30:55Oh, it's time!
30:57It's not easy.
30:57Oh, it's .
30:58It's so sane.
31:00Oh, uh...
31:02It was a single-ply toilet paper.
31:05Keep spinning.
31:06Keep spinning.
31:07Keep spinning.
31:07Grants are gonna need you.
31:08Keep spinning!
31:10Hold on, don't get too crazy now.
31:12It's just toilet paper.
31:12I'm getting dizzy.
31:13You're my present.
31:16Okay, it's on your face.
31:18Really?
31:19Me.
31:19More on my face.
31:22Getting a little dizzy.
31:26Make sure it's nice.
31:27Yes, I know.
31:28I'm gonna be resting like this for thousands of years.
31:30Yeah, you're my mummy.
31:33You're doing a good job.
31:35Move.
31:37Oh!
31:38Oh, sorry.
31:39You can't move, though.
31:40Oh, you don't can't move, then?
31:41What are you doing?
31:42I need to breathe.
31:44I breathe.
31:50I'm not body butter anymore.
31:51I'm hot.
31:52We're done.
31:53Ah!
31:54Oh, my God.
31:57We're done.
31:59Done!
32:00Ta-da!
32:02Oh, man.
32:04I was almost done.
32:05I mean, I feel like you guys just forfeited.
32:09Unfortunately, ladies...
32:10No!
32:11You did not win this.
32:13No!
32:13You did a great job.
32:15You weren't the fastest.
32:17No!
32:18No!
32:21Unfortunately, with the time of two minutes and 30 seconds, you did not win.
32:25I figured.
32:26Yeah, but I bet ours is way better than whoever the hell won.
32:29All right, with the time of two minutes and 17 seconds, you won!
32:33Yay!
32:34Yay!
32:36Yay!
32:38Yay!
32:39Yay!
32:40All right, now we're gonna watch Bandages, which was the second part of group therapy,
32:44where you tried to find solutions to communicate and move forward.
32:48Okay.
32:50So, what are bandages?
32:52They cover up wounds.
32:54They help us heal.
32:56And that's what this is about.
32:57It's a way to establish trust within your relationship and to understand each other more clearly.
33:03So, if your issue is trust, what's a bandage that we can do to work on trust?
33:09The point of bandages as a tool is really important in helping couples grow.
33:14You can't solve every single problem overnight.
33:17A bandage is just a kind of a quick fix to feel better.
33:20So, it keeps you coming back, keeps you wanting to do counseling or whatever you're into to heal your relationship.
33:27So, bandages are good, but they're not long-standing.
33:30Josh and Natalie, what did you write down?
33:51What's in his house at this point? Like, what's so great that he can't just bring her over for one
33:56day?
33:56It did kind of start to feel like Josh's house was the new Benny's social media passwords.
34:03Like, it felt like that's all Natalie wanted to accomplish is just to get to Josh's house.
34:07Like, that's all that really mattered. I don't think they really cared if they made progress.
34:10She just wanted his house.
34:12What's keeping us from just saying, Natalie, come on over and see my place?
34:18Yeah, well, we've only been getting along for two hours.
34:24I wonder, Josh, if she's more respectful and you guys feel like you're respecting each other better, that that would
34:31open the door to access?
34:33Absolutely.
34:33Okay. Yeah.
34:34So, one leads into the other.
34:36For sure.
34:36Okay.
34:37I was traveling to Arizona after we phoned for the interview part.
34:42And I got to know certain people from Arizona.
34:47I heard some rumors that Josh has an official girlfriend that lives in his house.
34:54And I saw a picture of the girl.
34:56And the girl is a younger version of Natalie.
35:02I may have heard something.
35:04Oh, my gosh. You heard the same. What did you hear?
35:06I heard that Josh has an official girlfriend that lives in his house.
35:10And that she is, like, okay with him, you know, having other relationship.
35:17But as far as she is the official one, the only one having access to his family, to his house,
35:25to his world.
35:27And that the other ones are the Natalie's.
35:31What if he made that part up?
35:32What if she really just thinks that it's, you know, it's just his friend.
35:36Like, Natalie's just his friend or something, you know?
35:39It would be nice to find out, wouldn't it?
35:48You can move on?
35:49Yeah, of course, you know.
35:51I can move on.
35:51I want to learn.
35:52Okay, come on. Let's go. Let's go.
35:54Let's get it.
35:54Are we going to be able to slide right here?
35:56Yeah, come on.
35:57Here?
35:57Yeah.
35:57We'll be here.
35:59One.
35:59Let's cross.
36:01Like, spin.
36:03Face something.
36:04And then, like, boom.
36:06And then it's light.
36:08And it's light.
36:09One, two, three, four.
36:15You're a better dancer than me.
36:20Okay, Sophie, we're going to continue with the group therapy.
36:23And this is Brandon revealing the bandage he needs from Julia.
36:26Brandon and Julia, how about you guys?
36:29What did you come up with as your big issue?
36:30And what's the bandage for you to help, you know, soothe that wound?
36:37I feel lied to.
36:38And I feel like I need to see something.
36:41Something that shows me that she's going to do something to make me feel better.
36:45I want Julia to get a second opinion on her fertility issue.
36:50I completely get why Julia has been putting this off.
36:53It's, it's, like, I know exactly how she's feeling.
36:56Like, just the thought of being, it's the thought of being told no.
36:59Like, I remember when I told Rob that I had issues with my ovaries.
37:03Uh, he wanted me to go and have, you know, an opinion to see if, like, I'm still fertile.
37:08Everything is still good.
37:09And I didn't do it.
37:10I mean, at that point, we wasn't ready for kids.
37:12But I just, the thought of, like, being told no, I just didn't do it.
37:16But I just got checked last month and I'm good.
37:20If you won't do this, I will be agreed to do the second opinion.
37:27Yeah.
37:28You're tearing up.
37:30What's going through your brain?
37:33Oh, you're so cute.
37:35I think that they thought they were coming up with a bandage, but really they came up with a solution.
37:39This was, like, a real opportunity for other people to see, like, sometimes you just can find a solution.
37:45And I was thrilled to see this happen.
37:48Gino, Jasmine, where are you guys with things?
37:50Well, for me, it's like, she's spending nights out and I don't know where she's at.
37:56And so, the band-aid would be, I'd like to know Jasmine's location.
38:02My mind was blown.
38:03If you don't trust somebody enough that you have to get a GPS put on him, then yeah, I wouldn't
38:08trust him.
38:09And there's no point in being in a relationship where you just can't trust somebody to that level.
38:12I think he already knows his wife is cheating on him.
38:15That is the stage of, like, all right, I'm going to start gathering evidence for my divorce.
38:20I have to know.
38:20Like, I have to get confirmation.
38:21I have to get evidence.
38:23He's not okay with it.
38:25He's never going to be okay with it.
38:26Two points.
38:26If you're not going to have sex with each other and you're going to go hook up with other people,
38:30just do that.
38:31You don't have to be in each other's life.
38:32Unless you want to stay friends, then stay friends.
38:34That doesn't mean if you really want to be roommates, be roommates.
38:37They don't even have a friendship.
38:38The marriage is over at that point, if that's just how it's going to be.
38:41This was absolutely crazy.
38:44I didn't agree to the open marriage yet.
38:47It's something I'm considering right now.
38:49Yeah, good.
38:52You know, it's so unpredictable.
38:55We were just arguing a few hours ago, you know, about it.
38:59And he was like, the open marriage.
39:02You're shitting on me with this guy.
39:03There is no way.
39:04I'm going to accept this.
39:06And I was like, okay, fine.
39:07And now he's like reconsidering.
39:08I was like, wait, wait, wait, what?
39:10It just meant at that moment to me, like, how much this man loved me.
39:14I was like, he really loved me.
39:16He doesn't want to lose me.
39:19Gino, if she was to share location services, would it be more likely that you would be in this open
39:25relationship if she was to give you that?
39:29This is a game changer.
39:31Yes or no.
39:36I have to admit, I was on the edge of my seat.
39:39I want to know what decision we're going to make being pulled into this.
39:42I'm only human.
39:43Where are we going with this?
39:44The reality is, it's bigger than yes or no, people.
39:48It's bigger than whether you're going to have an open relationship or not.
39:51Clearly, there's so much more work that has to be done.
39:53We need to make sure the foundation is solid before we're going to even entertain any of these ideas.
40:00Their foundation is still rocky at best.
40:03We need to have more therapy and work before we can introduce the topic.
40:07Because Gino really does want Jasmine to be happy.
40:09He wants to meet her needs.
40:11It was definitely an option, but a little crazy that we were trying to make a solid decision,
40:16considering there was still so much work to do.
40:21Next time on Between the Sheets.
40:24It's time this city knew true justice by the name of Sex Man!
40:29Sex Man!
40:30I think this is exactly the type of stuff Brandon needs to be choosing.
40:33Even if they know a shoe, they like that feel of like,
40:36oh, I can imagine, I don't know who he is.
40:40I am Sex Man!
40:43It's like, he's not a Peter Pan.
40:45The guy is getting old.
40:46How old is he?
40:4743.
40:48I thought it was like my dad's age.
40:50No, I thought he was 57, because like, the face isn't giving.
40:55Yeah, I did put some more thought into it.
40:57Is it a yes?
40:59Don't be so excited.
41:00I'm not an expert on open relationships,
41:02but I don't think it starts from the two people not having sex.
41:07Do I think it's gonna happen?
41:08No.
41:09Josh, where are you with things?
41:11I do love you and I do care for you.
41:13Oh, he said he loves me.
41:15Natalie needs somebody 100% all the time.
41:19I'm like, I hope Natalie's gonna be okay.
41:21How is she gonna act?
41:22What's gonna happen?
41:22Is she gonna yell at me?
41:24You know, I didn't know.
41:25I was in my head thinking the whole time,
41:26is this the right decision?
41:28Natalie.
41:29Natalie.
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