00:00There's been two seasons now, and the fans are rabid for this show.
00:03Do you have a favorite fan reaction to this season?
00:08I, well, I'm really careful to not look too much online, because I need to stay in this
00:13bubble, and also this character is so close to me.
00:17I don't, I feel very vulnerable around it.
00:21So I don't look online, but I would say a very cool aspect is the amount of medical
00:26professionals that come up to me and talk to me in real life.
00:28That's been very cool.
00:30And they've said their favorite thing is that they show their spouses what they do for
00:37a living.
00:37And so there's some kind of understanding.
00:39I remember somebody saying that in a panel once, and I was like, maybe.
00:43And then it's so real.
00:45But so many people say it to me.
00:47So that's very cool.
00:48I want to ask about episode 11, because I feel like we have the scene where McKay takes
00:53Ogilvy into the park to treat Kiki.
00:55I've never understood drug addiction.
00:57Well, you need to try.
00:58A little empathy goes a long way in this job.
01:01I am empathetic.
01:02I don't understand how an intelligent person allows themselves.
01:05Can make mistakes, heal themselves, take away the pain, hide from the abuse.
01:09When I spoke to Lucas, he, the way he, he, he phrases that McKay's been whispering empathy
01:14into Ogilvy's ear.
01:16How did you see that sequence?
01:17And why did she tap Ogilvy for that job?
01:19I think she wants to show him how, how intense emergency medicine can be.
01:27Whispering empathy.
01:28I think that there's a thing about empathy and also most pro-social behavior that isn't
01:34intuitive, but is real, which is that it's this exercise and habit that you actually
01:38have to work towards.
01:39And that's everybody.
01:40I think that even that's true of Mother Teresa.
01:43I think that we, everybody has all of these different sides of them and habits, and you
01:49can be intentional and choose to have more social thoughts occur to you even by what you
01:57choosing to follow and actions you're choosing to follow.
02:00So I think that she understands that about her own human nature and probably everybody
02:05else.
02:06And she is trying to nudge him in the correct, in the, down the correct lane.
02:12I know I've talked to you in the past about McKay's history with, you know, addiction and
02:16various things.
02:17When she's treating someone like Kiki, does she still, does she see a version of herself
02:21she could be?
02:22I'm curious.
02:23Yes.
02:23And also people that she's known.
02:25Yes.
02:25I think that, um, that is part of the utility of the character actually is that there's less
02:33of a divide.
02:33Um, yeah, she's somebody who's, who's hit rock bottom and understands how bad the world
02:39can get and how you are, you are not there by the grace of God and, and not about things
02:46that you, you know, can particularly control.
02:49Like people get born into all types of situations that are much harder to, to break out of.
02:54I think she really understands that.
02:56But because McKay is treating Kiki, she misses the passing of Roxy and is really affected
03:00by that.
03:01And while you stepped out, Roxy died.
03:05What?
03:11Oh man, I'm sorry.
03:13I didn't think she would be gone that quickly.
03:16Why do you think she was so like, she wanted to be there for Roxy in particular?
03:19I think she probably wants to be there for everybody.
03:21I think that this is a job, um, and everybody's trying to do their best.
03:27I think there was an aspect of Roxy that felt like it mirrored her own life.
03:31You know, somebody who is exactly my age and whose body is breaking down for reasons that
03:39are completely unjustified.
03:41It's not, it has nothing to do with behavior as a son, my son's age.
03:45Um, so I think it was this real confrontation with my own mortality and it really had me
03:53thinking as a Fiona also after it and during it of just how fragile it all is and how unfair
04:04it can be and how little control we actually have.
04:09I think one of everyone's favorite McKay scenes of the season is when she kind of clocks in
04:13with Robbie and tells him like, kind of be careful about the limit because you might find it.
04:18In a previous life, I had a lot of friends who liked to see how close the edge was.
04:24As if it was a challenge they were called to meet.
04:31What sets off her alarm bell for that particular shift?
04:34Do you think it's suddenly in that shift or do you think she's been noticing something
04:37longer term?
04:38I think she's been noticing it longer term and she wonders if she notices it more than
04:43he does.
04:45And it's also a, a type of like undercurrent of, of, of anger and despair that can lead you
04:55into really self-destructive behavior, even, even when you're not aware of it.
05:00Um, and it's a place that she's been, it's a place that I, Fiona have been, and it's a
05:06place that, um, people can make decisions that they can't come back from, which I've also
05:11seen play out in my actual life with people that I love.
05:15And, uh, that was a scene that I understood perfectly.
05:19Um, yeah, it was cool.
05:20I got to play it.
05:21I was like, I know exactly what this is.
05:24On a lighter note, it was also really great to see McKay stick it to that one drunk golf
05:28player who attacked poor, poor Emma.
05:31So after we clear you in a few hours, you're going to take a ride with the uniformed officer
05:34outside who's going to take you in for process.
05:36No.
05:37What did you make of like kind of the interaction trying to tell him like, oh, you still are
05:40going to jail, buddy.
05:41Like, yeah, yeah, there's a consequence.
05:45I mean, there's something that's really satisfying about being able to speak truth, you know?
05:51And, um, yeah, there was, there's probably a little bit of righteousness that, that came
05:57into that scene that is both delicious and, and probably not that great.
06:03I think righteousness can have, can have problems.
06:06Um, but, uh, but yeah, it was fun to play, you know, those moments when you like actually
06:11play them out in your real life, you know, they feel so satisfying and, and, um, yeah,
06:17that was fun.
06:18Well, I know that Shabana has recently said that into the third season, she's going to
06:21be on her psychology or rotation and not in the emergency room, which means one of our
06:26favorite duos, the whole McKay, Javadi, little like team up might be a little fractured.
06:31Are you going to miss having your little sidekick in the next season?
06:33I do.
06:34Also, my little sidekick is so naturally funny.
06:38I mean, I think that comes across in the performance, but, but her working with her is also just
06:44like, sometimes it feels like I'm, um, I go, I'm like hanging out with a comedian.
06:49It's great.
06:50Yeah.
06:51Yeah.
06:51I'll absolutely miss Shabana.
06:52I think Shabana is amazingly talented and fun to be around.
06:55Hopefully we'll still have interactions on the floor, but you know.
06:57Oh, I think so.
06:58I think it's, let me tell you, it is a long shift and it is, it's pretty expansive, but you
07:04run into most people.
07:05I also really love the scenes between McKay and Santos this season.
07:08Um, we talk about the jaundiced patients.
07:10Things get worse.
07:10She could need a liver transplant because she's a big fucking idiot.
07:14Wow.
07:16No, I actually appreciate her.
07:18Our job security depends on all these big fucking idiots.
07:23Okay.
07:24How much fun was it to work with those two characters together?
07:26And would you like to see those two team up more?
07:28I would like to say, yeah.
07:29I also feel like we have some kind of through line that's similar.
07:32Like there's, there's some kind of, there's an amount of, of, um, the way in which we
07:40relate, uh, feels like we're of the same kind of prototype, but I think Santos is much
07:47younger than me.
07:48Yeah.
07:48You know?
07:49Um, so there's a, there's aspects of her that I completely understand.
07:52Um, I'm not scared of her.
07:54I think she's pretty cool and has a lot to learn.
07:57Yeah.
07:57Um, this season McKay had a chance to maybe meet up a patient at a gallery after her shift,
08:01but chose the classic bed bath book instead.
08:04Would you like to see her potentially get a love interest in the third season?
08:08I don't know if she didn't go on that date.
08:10Oh.
08:11Sorry.
08:12I know that you made that decision, but I don't know if I did.
08:17I don't know if she didn't make it to that art gallery.
08:19I think last year when we talked after season one, I was asking you about your bangs because
08:23they're so iconic and so great and you wanted them to be shorter for season two, do we have
08:27a B on where the bangs will be in the third season?
08:30I think they're pretty close to what you're seeing right now.
08:32So I went into, I did, I did a movie in the hiatus where they changed my hair completely.
08:37And so now we're on this long journey to get it back to, to McKay.
08:41But I think, um, yeah, I think the bangs are back.
08:45Dr. Bangs, um, lives on.
08:47And, uh, they're also great if you're in your forties.
08:51Do you know what I mean?
08:51Yeah, we're in the process of solidifying the looks for everybody.
08:57So I'm, I think I'm like 75% of the way there.
09:00I go into Warner Brothers actually tomorrow to, to, to finish it.
09:04So the bangs are back.
09:07Is there anything you can tease about the next season that, you know, like in terms of tone
09:10or anything that you're kind of.
09:12Yeah, I know my basic theme and it is, it is, it is, um, relevant to today and very personal
09:24to Fiona.
09:26So I'm excited to say it.
09:27It's so vague.
09:28It's so un-pagg for you.
09:30But I, but I do know it.
09:32I'm excited to play it.
09:33And, um, we've hinted at it.
09:35And then I'm, let's see it in the new model.
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