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As more than half of the world’s population lives in cities, and rising, urban areas are on the frontlines of climate change. Extreme heat, floods, and other events are no longer distant risks, but daily realities.
How can cities adapt while continuing to grow? This session explores how urban planning, infrastructure, and technology can build resilience at scale. From practical strategies to real-world examples, the discussion examines what it takes to design cities that remain livable, sustainable, and prepared for the climate challenges ahead.
How can cities adapt while continuing to grow? This session explores how urban planning, infrastructure, and technology can build resilience at scale. From practical strategies to real-world examples, the discussion examines what it takes to design cities that remain livable, sustainable, and prepared for the climate challenges ahead.
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00:24okay welcome welcome welcome ladies please grab a microphone as you take your seats
00:29as well okay hello red stage how are we feeling after lunch good yeah awesome okay well we're
00:46really happy to be here because as you can see there is one two three four women on the panel
00:51make some noise and they are all extremely brilliant as you can see their bios right there
01:02she's all right she's all right though right well let's get into it then for years we know everyone's
01:08been talking about the climate or trying to trying to get some action before it was about prevention
01:14today the conversation has shifted to adaptation redesigning the infrastructure our public space
01:21spaces entire urban systems for the conditions that they were never built to withstand and as
01:29people have increasingly been able to take a choice especially if you think about the pandemic where did
01:36you live did you go to work did you stay at home working in your pajamas perhaps so the question
01:42is increasingly becoming simple if a city isn't working for the people who live in it what will
01:48you guys do if you can at least you will move you will find somewhere better somewhere that suits
01:54your families suits your individual purposes suits your lifestyle well to explore the challenge of
02:01adaptation i'm joined by as i said three amazing women again round of applause for them
02:06we have mariluz godineau from buick we have lenaic lenaic yes all the names are very french and i'm
02:17typically british so i apologize in advance so lenaic pinot from jose deco and helen chartier from
02:23c40 cities or c40 cities welcome to you all it's such a pleasure as i said to be not only
02:29on a stage to
02:30share the stage with you all but to be on a stage with women talking about something that is hugely
02:35important adaptation of our cities so helen i will start with you first and just to say when we speak
02:41we need to really push the microphones up to our faces so the audience can hear us very well so
02:46as i
02:46said a little bit in the intro when the when we had the chance to act on the climate we
02:52still haven't
02:53done what we need to do so now adaptation has become urgent especially in urban centers in big cities
03:02like the one that we're in today the cities that we live in they're not designed for the future and
03:07they're
03:07definitely not designed for the current circumstances that we're living in we can see when we all walk around
03:12when we get out of this building what happens to us we're hit with that heat right so fundamentally
03:17how does adaptation force us to rethink cities and talk to us a bit about um the work that you
03:24do where you are
03:26yeah thank you very much for this question and allow me very briefly to present who i am i'm
03:31milane chartier i'm the director for urban planning and design at c40 and c40 is a global network of
03:37mayors and cities the major capital the main cities of the world that are working together
03:42uh collaborating together to accelerate their their climate agenda the first things i wanted to say just
03:48to maybe set the scene a little bit is that it's very important that we don't oppose mitigation to
03:55adaptation they are the two legs of the same body of the same problem and it's very important because
04:01this is something we we hear a lot too late for mitigation we need to focus on adaptation we really
04:07don't think it's the case and i think our capacity to continue to reduce our emission there was some good
04:12news yesterday in the in the press saying that france is accelerating on on mitigation it's actually
04:18will define how much we will have to adapt so it's it's very important to to say that and the
04:24the
04:24the jack or the ipcc in english are going to release a report in the coming weeks months very soon
04:31to
04:31say cities are really where we need to focus effort local government they have the capacity they have
04:39the most capacity especially on adaptation to accelerate action and they were also saying a little bit
04:46what's going to happen a little bit more in detail so we know now it's very clear that we have
04:51already
04:511.27 increase of temperature it's done we know that the 1.5 degrees objective of the paris agreement
05:00is dead if i can say it and now we are more aiming in the best scenario we can at
05:07at 0.8 we know that in
05:09the previous decade only 10 years we have increased for almost 0.3 so it's very it's very urgent to
05:18adapt to
05:19reduce emission but also to adapt our city and i think there is a real like mayors and cities are
05:24very aware about these this information slightly good news because we need a bit of good news in our
05:31world is that the worst case scenario seems also to be uh to going far so in some way we
05:40we need to be
05:41prepared to a very important scenario we need to accelerate we know that we can have a form of cascade
05:48of risk coming uh heat draw fire fire mitigation so this type of scenario we need to be prepared
05:56uh but uh this is coming just i think we know what needs to be done it's very important there
06:03is no
06:03solutions that we are waiting we know very precisely the ipcc report is very uh precise just on a few
06:10information there buildings it's very important especially in in the global north who are looking
06:17at the existing stock of the building now developing new buildings that are net zeros that are very well
06:24insulated it's something that the technologies the constructors have done a lot of effort and are
06:28continuing but we need support to finance the scale of the of energy efficient retrofit of the existing
06:37building stock because we see a huge difference uh what it means for people who live in a in a
06:44good um
06:44in a good building in some way well efficient and people who don't live and most of the case is
06:49also
06:49the most vulnerable one so cities are really in looked for financing program like that and to accelerate
06:56and and everything and i will give some example on where the connection with ai can be super
07:01interesting the second thing and what what you are saying it's also the public space the common good
07:07of the people especially in cities that's where people eat we need that the best tool we have
07:13it's nature they they provide shade but they also a tree provide uh provide freshness natural freshness
07:20and there is a lot of studies that even show even more than when we thought better how it is
07:26important to integrated we know that between a dense city and a surrounding rural area there is
07:3310 to 15 degree of difference in case of uh extreme heat episode so uh but we don't want everyone
07:41to
07:41leave because if everyone to leave we will you know car dependency all of the problem so we need people
07:46to say the good news is that when we introduce uh green space natural based solution in cities
07:52we drop from approximately uh 10 degrees so we need but the cities have lost 30 percent of their green
08:01space in the previous uh 13 years so now there is a form of race for city to reintroduce what
08:08they have
08:08removed that's a shame but that's life to reintroduce massively uh green shade natural based solution in
08:17their city and there is plenty of example i could share but i stop here for the first question thank
08:22you so
08:22much well listen you brought up um buildings there so let's come to marry loose we know that obviously
08:28the way your your dna is in the construction sector can you talk to us a bit about what is
08:36it that is needed for
08:38the adaptation of buildings and do we need to when we plan for this uncertainty for the uncertainty of
08:45the climate future um what are we designing these buildings are we redesigning buildings or are we
08:51building new buildings i think that the the answer is not easy it depends where you stand if you are
09:00in
09:00europe of course many buildings are already there but not only buildings cities are there and yes
09:07the the the the issue is how can we adapt these uh this city this city and there you have
09:13to
09:13transform technically we know how how we can transform that the solutions are are there
09:20i think that the issue is how to scale is not one project one type of project one prototype one
09:29something big and and marvelous is how can we do that for millions of buildings in
09:36europe for example and that's a real question it's not about innovation now it's how to scale
09:42and it's not only about buildings because you say buildings of course makes the entire city
09:48uh for for for those who don't know we we are working of course on buildings but also on
09:55infrastructure on on network telco network energy system and so on and it's all of that who has to be
10:02adapted to new new conditions uh in europe floating uh sea uh rising sea levels heat uh and so on
10:13and so
10:13we have to adapt all of that and there are some some solutions for example we have we have some
10:19solutions from collas to to uh street adapt to to turn street to turn existing street in something
10:26more um more resistant to to to to this uh climate change so so the solution are there but how
10:34can we
10:35scale and i think that the regulation uh is is something important in this area but the question as i
10:42said
10:42at the beginning the question is quite different when you are in growing uh in uh in the the growing
10:48countries uh in africa in asia and so on that is not the same question because there you have to
10:56build
10:56resilience from day one it's at the beginning you have to think and then you have yes not zero
11:02building and so on so i think that the question is quite different if we are here we have to
11:07transform
11:08and there are solution we can transform offices in uh in housing we can do that we can adapt cities
11:15we can have streets with permeable pavement we have that all these solutions are there but we have to
11:21to to go more more quickly i think it's it's uh that what is important we have to upgrade our
11:31city and
11:32it's a question of mindset and spill of deployment and no more about uh innovation and perhaps a last
11:41word about in uh about the solution or existing of course we have many solutions in the big group and
11:46i
11:46discuss with anyone if you want but it's important to have an ecosystem on that and there are many many
11:53things that are explaining what we can do for example c c40 you have some some very interesting
12:00uh books who explains that and and we we uh rely on that on philippine for example on this type
12:08of
12:08thing though so uh the ecosystem is very important for example we were working with the solar foundation
12:14solar impulse foundation they they gave more than 1600 solutions were existing we can take them and
12:23put them and then the regulation could be uh really impactful to to to go quickly now before we
12:32introduce lineaic into the conversation now both of you um marie-luise and helen you both come from
12:40obviously you could say the you know non-governmental right you i mean you work with obviously mayors
12:46etc but can you give both of you just give the audience a taster because we're going to come to
12:51you and the amazing example if you haven't seen it on the show floor don't worry we're coming it's
12:55amazing but can both of you marie-luise and helen give the audience an example of the kind of work
13:01that you actually do in cities um how you do it and where you do it so helen maybe go
13:08forward am i
13:08lose i think on our side we have if i take c40 has been around for 20 years we have
13:17now all of the
13:18c40 cities they have uh integrate a climate action plan aligned with the paris agreement objective so
13:25they are still in their action on the 1.5 objective and they have a database uh also uh adaptation
13:33approach so this is done we are now a very clear roadmap with each of these cities obviously it's
13:41very different in new york because of their building stock uh their emission is 70 from the
13:47building in other cities it will be a different approach so we have defined and look with data with
13:53all of their city what they need to do in which priority where they need the money and everything
13:57now we are really working on implementation of this plan already we know that all of the c40 cities
14:05that decrease their gaj emission uh much more faster than the national so it's work and the cities that
14:12are part of our network they don't pay to be part of their network but they need to show progress
14:16they report every year on their on their progress and if they are not progressing we ask them to let
14:22another city so it's really a network of leading cities and and everything so then we are helping
14:27them to mainstream so we changing their building code changing their master plan we now look of all of
14:33the i don't know if you've ever heard but recently paris has developed the first master plan le plu
14:39bioclimatic so it's typically the type of things that we are now doing with chennai
14:44amman cape town all of the cities both on adaptation and uh and mitigation so for example cape
14:51town coastal cities we have no working with them on their coastal zoning what does that mean
14:57where you don't build anymore what miami for example has not done miami is part of c40 we are
15:02urgently working what data they need how they relocated informal settlement that are in this zone
15:07how they will develop nature-based solution to protect so all of this very deep deep implementation
15:16from policy to also specific program access to finance is something we do a lot also preparing
15:23especially in the global south helping city to prepare bankable project and then we go with them
15:29to public development bank the world bank and other we do more and more collaboration with the private
15:34sector to get the data we had a partnership with aws with other to see how we can help also
15:40the cities
15:40that struggle to get the right data to inform their decision so for example on on master plan if i
15:48continue with this example how a city can do a good master plan if they don't have the special data
15:53on landslide if they don't love the special data on flooding risk they need this form of uh information
16:01we help them on their another very concrete example on their alert uh alert uh information so how do you
16:09alert the citizen when uh heavy rain is coming how you give the information even to the poorest one
16:17in the city and how we make sure they have the information and they know what to do so all
16:21of
16:21these detailed plan that what we are doing we are almost 500 people so it's a lot of people who
16:28are
16:28working sometime embedded in the city hall to work with them and to help them to implement some of
16:33this solution and uh i have plenty more to share but it's up here thank you mary luce you'd like
16:38to
16:38add yes um there are many examples of what we can do i i uh explained just earlier that we
16:46have some
16:46specific solution for street uh street adapt from colors for example to have a street who can resist to
16:54to floating and so on so there are many solutions in terms of buildings in neighborhoods for example in
17:01green city in green city in zurich there is a very sustainable neighborhood uh delivered by
17:08reconstruction with local heating cooling system and uh electricity 20 percent of electricity
17:17predicted predicted on site we can talk about energy system for example with equance who had
17:25a very uh interesting at the system developing and installing at the system uh that is very
17:33interesting to to heat and cool entire district using groundwater so i can take many examples big
17:41immobilier the real estate developer with garden everywhere but i think that the real thing is that
17:46we have many many very interesting projects in many countries in the world what is interesting is
17:52leveraging is this solution from one country to another it's scaling because i can give a hundred
17:58of examples of very very promising project very interesting project who can improve uh the adaptation
18:06of the city but at the end you will be tired but at the end we have so many things
18:12to do that what is
18:13interesting is how can we scale and that is the question i think thank you so both of you are
18:18really
18:18facilitators and you're definitely your focus is scale so let's come to you then just say deco
18:25who knows the company who's been walking around vivotech right we know them as good yes we know them as
18:32the
18:33advertiser right yeah yes but have you the audience put your hands up if you've been on i think i'll
18:40call it
18:40floor one but the the first floor have you seen their bus shelter yeah come come okay so after this
18:49when
18:49you have a free moment everyone go down to the first well i'm calling it the first floor but the
18:54the one at the bottom and you will see go find jose deco's bus shelter you will be marveled so
19:01obviously as we
19:02were preparing we spoke in advance and they were talking about a bus shelter and you you know you
19:10guys were saying you know because of adaptation the bus shelter that protects you from the rain
19:15will one day or now has to protect you from the heat but i'll leave it to you to explain
19:22what this bus
19:24shelter is because this is the future i didn't believe it and then i went down and spoke to your
19:30team
19:30and also what they also told me is you don't make cities pay for it so please explain it all
19:37for us
19:37so sure as you know jose deco is mostly known for advertising but we are also the bus shelters the
19:45street
19:45furniture and our business model is very simple advertising will pay for the bus shelter and the
19:53wall concept and what you can see at our stand is the bus shelter that we will spread all across
20:02the
20:02world and it's scalable because we can finance it with advertising and it's not one furniture one
20:11function as you said but we try to develop as many as possible options functionalities for the citizens
20:20with only one items for instance when you are waiting for the bus shelter we have a cooling system
20:28in order not to suffer from the headbreak that you can leave right now i think in paris but you
20:35have
20:35also some information with some paper screen or digital screens you have also some alert system in terms of
20:45security but you have also health properties like defibrillators so we can save life also with one unique
20:53item a bus shelter and what is important is that we don't start from a blank page because we have
21:01already
21:02a huge footprint in all the cities in more than 79 countries across the world so we have a lot
21:11of street
21:11furniture and our aim is not to build new street furniture not new bus shelters but really to build on
21:19the
21:20existent one and to add some new functionalities and this is circularity because we can reduce the use of
21:31raw materials what it means is that we can reduce by more than 70 percent the carbon emission of a
21:39recycled bus shelter in
21:40comparison with a new one and we also reduce waste around 50 percent so this is not science fiction
21:48it's really happening right now in cities and what we are trying to do is to offer as many services
21:55as
21:56possible finance with advertising so without any impact on citizens budgets
22:04that's really amazing i think that deserves a round of applause come on guys it's a bus shelter that's
22:09doing so much more
22:12and i think what's really fascinating um about the bus shelter when i was speaking you know to your
22:18colleagues downstairs on the first floor guys go go um was that it's a cooling system so
22:23where if we think about all of our cities now we're in paris whether you're in london
22:27wherever it is we're having these extremely hot summers now yeah whether it's for a week or a few
22:32days as the uk summer always is um in paris i think it's it's it's a lot hotter for a
22:38longer period
22:38but you know as an individual you might start thinking well maybe now i need to have an ac should
22:44i get that built into my house into my flat however i live but what's interesting about the functionality
22:49of this bus shelter it's an air cooling system it doesn't have an ac can you take a story i
22:53think it's
22:54cardboard water and a fan how does that work well it's it's working um with also some solar panels
23:03that can help to provide enough energy to make it work and it's it's really a new technology in order
23:10to decrease the heat below the bus shelter when you are waiting and what we think at gcsdoko is that
23:17we make it worse if we are all deploying air conditioning in our flats so we need to build on
23:24the existing infrastructures the public area to offer as many as possible services and so for us
23:32it's really a societal choice before a technical choice so it means that we really need to
23:41do the best we can with existing infrastructures so that's why this prototype that you have seen
23:49really embed all the technologies but at the end of the day we have all the power the choice
23:56to make in order to reduce the heat in our cities by investing all together in the public area rather
24:05than the private ones and this is very important and that's why we we favor renovation and reuse instead
24:13of new materials and we turn our bus shelter into passive or low energy cooling into shaded waiting areas
24:24and into measurement tool because we had also some sensors in order to provide data information for cities
24:31about temperature about air quality and we can also communicate as helen was saying if we have some
24:38climate risk so help also the citizens to be prepared in case of extreme climate weather or situation
24:49i just want to say i hope the audiences are joining the conversation because you know what i'm hearing on
24:52stage
24:53is a lot of positivity i would say or solutions based because a lot of the conversations that people
25:00have about the climate it's about the lack of action you know getting stuck somewhere um so helen you were
25:06talking as well about the innovations we've spoken about you know the innovation of the bus shelter
25:10but where does you know since we're also at vivatech where does the ai aspect or innovation come in
25:15when we're thinking about adaptation thank you i would like to organize my response in three parts i think
25:21the first part is example of how you know it has been deployed like like the one in cities led
25:27by city
25:28another things about just the difficulty city face to scale and to use this innovation and because i
25:36think that's where we need to focus and also maybe also focus on some bad example because it's also
25:42important to say that sometime and and also make sure the technology is also always contributing to the
25:48the good but let's start with a good example i would like to say for example a city like copenhagen
25:52in danmark have used have developed a lot of now a lot of their park is a reservoir so it's
25:59a park with
26:00basketball and all of the things that have a good park but when there is heavy rain it become a
26:05reservoir
26:06for water and it will channel all of the water in their park to avoid that the street and the
26:11housing become
26:13flooded and on this they have deployed sensor so they know they track the heaviness of the rain they
26:19track the level and basically it's automatically change close some gate and everything to create
26:25these these reservoir that are going it works very well and now we are helping other city to deploy this
26:32type of solution another example los angeles or even amman are now really partnering with some of the
26:40of the digital company to have a very detailed uh special plan on urbani thailand and not only on
26:47existing but on the future and a form of modelization so you were mentioning how do you design the street
26:54what material you will use what where you will develop your greening so you can reduce urbani thailand
27:01that can sometimes be very localized in the city so some of the city are getting this info singapore is
27:06probably one of the most well-known city to have developed digital twins and everything one of the
27:11things they have done new york is doing something similar it's to use in infrastructure technology
27:16and data to identify what building building by building they know exactly which building are the more
27:22energy inefficient and they have crossed if i can say that this information with also the social
27:28vulnerability of the people to identify where they need to invest first where they need to find the money to
27:35say this building is at super risk that's where they don't have the money for everything but they
27:39have a very done through these these uh technology a form of priority and they are planning uh their
27:47intervention like that a city like melbourne in australia with one of the most advanced city on natural
27:52base solution entry they have now developed thanks to uh uh this type of uh technology a very detailed
27:59inventory of each of their tree and they are measuring the health of each of their tree in life
28:06to make sure they are maintaining well and they are developing a tree and everything i could provide
28:11a lot of example like that but i think what is interesting that i don't know if you have heard
28:15but
28:15all of my example are are global north and that's a real problem because what we are facing is that
28:22a lot of
28:22the cities will be able to invest will be able not only to have the partnership but to have also
28:28the
28:28people in their city who are trying to discuss and to develop but there is plenty of cities that will
28:33be
28:34stay on the side of the road so we need also a form of partnership with the technology to have
28:39to
28:41to give this data for free to give this information for this tool for free so they can also have
28:47this
28:47information and tool to plan and everything it's also very important because sometimes they are
28:53they are facing so many different companies that are coming to that that they don't know they don't
28:58know they are coming to us about which one is good where so we need also to partner with network
29:03like c40
29:03other to help the city to navigate in this giant revolution of technology for them to invest if they
29:11have a bit of money to invest in the right tool to have the right people in their service to
29:15be able to
29:16to discuss and everything and that's a very big gap today in the city and we are trying to help
29:20and the last things i wanted to say because i think it's very important bad example one of the
29:26things that is central now is data center i mean we are now we are next week is london climate
29:33week
29:34we are going to announce a pact of cities a pact of mayor for sustainable data center because basically
29:40let's be clear all of our cities they have no idea what's happening in their city they are not planning
29:45this is happening sometime within their cities uh without knowing they don't have even a category
29:51of data center in their master plan and they don't regulate the problem is that data center is heat
29:56much more heat in the city it's uh much more energy and it has created already a lot of things
30:02so it's not
30:02about fighting data center it's about setting the rules and we need a partnership and the pact that our
30:09mayors will announce next week it's also a pact from the business saying okay we will develop the
30:14because we need digital uh sovereignty all the things we know but we need to do that right and you
30:20need
30:20to give us the information to do that right and everything i want to give other two examples of
30:26technology amazing technology that arrived and that had been a disaster in the city let's be honest
30:31like everyone know about the scooter sharing and everything you know you have this new technology that
30:37arrived that will help in theory to have people accelerating their active mobility and and
30:42everything but the city are not prepared they let them arrive and then we see on the public space you
30:47have scooter dead scooter everywhere and everything so a lot of city like paris and other have no ban then
30:53so we need the city to be informed to shape autonomous vehicle could be a fantastic opportunity
31:00some city Helsinki other are testing it but only if it's helped to increase if it's not personal
31:07autonomous it's if it's only shared vehicle if it's all electric why not if it's just introduce
31:13autonomous vehicle for the pleasure of technology no so i think we need a very initial partnership and
31:21discussion between the technology and the city to shape and i think the role of network is very
31:27important because that's where mayors can be strong in the discussion with the technology and not to
31:31avoid the situation of the scooter or airbnb that like 10 years after they need to regulate after
31:38the revolution is gone so this partnership is absolutely essential so let me just quickly follow
31:44up with you um marie-lis did you want to um add something to that as well yeah go for
31:48it yes i would
31:49like to to to propose to well that we partner on data center because no way because of course data
31:56center uh can be uh something uh uh very impactful but there are solutions well and and we work on
32:03very
32:03very efficient data center if we change cooling system and so on we can have data center that are
32:09less impactful we can work on energy system on cooling system or reuse the heat of the data center
32:15within some heat network in the cities and so on and so we have solution and then it's always the
32:21same
32:22we have to to give to to the community the the knowing the knowing of this uh this solution and
32:30then
32:30to be able to propose them and to scale in this solution it's always the same because people don't know
32:35exactly what they can do uh and i think that all the actor we are designing and we are working
32:41on
32:41these type of topics and we can help and we are able to help and we are uh eager to
32:46to to to share
32:47what we are doing in terms of data center so i i think that uh we we have a stand
32:52on the third floor
32:53and on the third floor we have uh uh some some things explaining what we are doing in terms of
33:00data
33:00center in terms of port in terms of airport and so on and so you can see or you can
33:06have the the
33:07vision of the solution you can propose on that and i think please go on the third floor can i
33:13add
33:13something yes i think what is important is this interaction because mayer need to regulate to push
33:19the technology to become mainstream so it's you know and not like you have you know like good uh
33:25organization or companies that are trying to do the best but it needs to be scale and mainstream
33:30and for this you need regulation so that exchange is very important is anything you want to add to
33:36that i mean if i added another final element because we're talking about collaboration we're talking
33:40about tech we're talking about so many different shifts that need to be made um what about the
33:44societal shift of everyday people as well do they need to have that buy-in as well because you guys
33:50can innovate all of you guys on the stage will be helping to innovate helping with adaptation but if we
33:56don't buy in so say for example i use the simple example of the air conditioner we all start
34:00installing them into our houses um into where we live so how much does society need to buy into
34:06adaptation now well i think it's crucial to work together to cooperate and to work as an ecosystem
34:12and at gsego doco we want to be a sustainable partner for cities in order to promote all these
34:20innovations because we have the solutions but now we need to deploy it at scale as we said but the
34:28the issue is also the lack of willingness the lack of desirability about all these new solutions sometimes
34:37because what we can see within gsego is that half of our tenders that we are answering worldwide
34:44they do not allow us to deploy refurbished assets they are asking for new ones and this is exactly
34:52what we need to change because at the end of the day this will have a strong impact on the
34:58carbon
34:59emission for the cities the quality of life for our citizens so more than ever we need more regulation
35:06i agree with you and this is exactly what we will have in france with la loi climat resilience where
35:12we will
35:12have all the public tenders embedded esg criterias into the selection of public items public services but this
35:22is not the case everywhere so we need to push for a stronger regulation but also the citizen can ask
35:30for it
35:30because at the end of the day the citizen won't ask what is the adaptation plan for my city but
35:37can i
35:38live in my city my kids will they be able to breathe am i being able to wait for my
35:44bus with some shadow
35:46with a cooling system is there any biodiversity left in the city so we need to make it simple and
35:55change
35:56the narrative to make it more desirable and also to provide some concrete figures on how it's working
36:03work on the financing of all this solution it's very important otherwise we won't deploy it and to work
36:11together with association big companies and cities in order to to provide all these solutions that we have
36:19already and to deploy them in all our cities well thank you ladies and what i would say is there's
36:26been
36:26no grand standing just solutions collaboration thank you so much everyone please be up standing
36:31for these wonderful ladies
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