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00:00You are getting your self-worth from Kyle, or lack thereof, and that, like, ruined you.
00:08And now you're doing it again with another guy.
00:14Virtual reality.
00:17Hi, I'm Danny Murphy.
00:18I'm Evan Real.
00:19Wow, and there were three sit-downs to three different levels of us caring about them, I feel.
00:24Yeah, you know what?
00:25This Summer House...
00:26I feel, because, like, Summer House, y'all, we got this extra aftermath, and I feel we are in the
00:32aftermath.
00:32I feel so, like, I want more, but also I'm so tired.
00:36And also, the main frustration is that this all happened, and then Amanda and Wes went to Italy, and we're
00:43still out and about, acting like nothing happened.
00:46Right, which is...
00:46Particularly about Amanda.
00:47Yeah, which is so insane, because Summer House, The Aftermath, kicked off with this amazing conversation between Lindsay and Amanda.
00:54Lindsay did such a great job showing Amanda some tough love, asking her some very well-thought-out questions.
01:02And Amanda, finally, she clocked in.
01:05I feel like she gave us the most clarity that she was capable of giving.
01:10We learned a lot from the sit-down with Amanda and Lindsay.
01:14What I thought was so interesting is that Wes was out here telling everyone...
01:18At PJ Clarks.
01:19Which I've never been to, by the way.
01:21Oh, good!
01:21I hear it's good.
01:22It's cute.
01:23They probably went to the Brookfield Place one.
01:24Yeah, I hear it's amazing, but that is where Wes told everyone that Amanda was the one who pursued him.
01:31And Amanda was like, that is not the truth, Ellen.
01:34But what I want to know is, when did that sit-down happen?
01:36I didn't go for him.
01:38He pursued me.
01:41Okay, well, he described at PJ Clarks, he said it was you.
01:45I know.
01:46I do...
01:46Right.
01:47Because that's what I want to...
01:48I need the timestamp on that.
01:49Because I'm like, who made that reservation and who was talking...
01:52Because Lindsay said that Wes told Sierra that.
01:55Right.
01:55Yeah, so that was really interesting.
01:58And also, you know, it's funny, that's when Amanda got mad.
02:00Because I think she wanted to be the prize.
02:02Oh, yeah.
02:03And she's now realizing Wes is going around talking to everybody like, no, she's obsessed with me.
02:08What do you think the truth is?
02:09Do you think that it's a little bit of both?
02:11Do you think they're both kind of telling a version of the truth?
02:12I think they were both just talking a lot of bulls**t.
02:16Yeah.
02:17I think from the text that Amanda showed, she kept on inviting him to things at their apartment in a
02:22group chat.
02:23Right.
02:24Wes kept inviting Amanda.
02:25Amanda and like Katie, the one friend.
02:28Shout out to Katie LaDuca.
02:29You know, I want to meet Katie La...
02:31What's her name?
02:32LaDuca, I think.
02:32LaDuca.
02:33Or maybe DeLuca.
02:34Is it Katie DeLuca or Katie LaDuca?
02:35I don't know.
02:36Oh, I think it's DeLuca because LaDuca doesn't sound like a last name.
02:38DeLuca?
02:39Because DeLuca's like Dean and DeLuca.
02:41Okay.
02:42I think I missed Dean.
02:42Katie DeLuca.
02:43I missed Dean and DeLuca.
02:44That's neither here nor there.
02:46DeLuca.
02:47Katie DeLuca.
02:47Katie DeLuca.
02:49But so Wes was inviting them like, party in my apartment, come watch the game.
02:53And Amanda kept on shutting those invites.
02:55Well, in the three screenshots she showed us.
02:57Those.
02:58So, I mean, who knows beyond that.
03:00But I do feel like Wes was like, oh, Amanda.
03:04I honestly think Wes is probably like, oh, Amanda is vulnerable.
03:08And I've been wanting to hook up with her for a little bit.
03:10Yeah.
03:11And then Amanda's probably like, oh, my God.
03:13He likes me more than anybody else.
03:15Oh, my God.
03:16He's picking.
03:16Like, I think they, I think she was like, I think they both wanted to feel like prizes.
03:20Yeah.
03:21I will say.
03:22And when you know what happens when you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
03:24That's right.
03:25They do have each other.
03:26As Taylor Swift once said.
03:27I will say the one.
03:29I haven't really been feeling Amanda lately, right?
03:32She's been making a lot of mistakes and hasn't been making a lot of sense when she speaks.
03:37But I was kind of following her logic when she was saying that she felt this euphoric feeling while getting
03:44to know herself, being out and about.
03:46Going out, like, I felt just like young and like in my 20s.
03:54And now she's sort of wondering, was she conflating the feeling of falling in love with herself with feelings for
04:01Wes?
04:02I was like, girl, you're on to something.
04:04But then again, she's in Italy spitting in Wes's mouth just a few weeks later.
04:08So I'm like, what is it, girl?
04:10And what I do hate from the one psychology class I took in college, where she was like that euphoric
04:14state, you were just having no responsibilities and getting really drunk out with Wes's friends.
04:19Right.
04:19And I don't know.
04:20I would hope.
04:21I mean, it would be everyone should love themselves.
04:23But I feel like she was just falling in love with being wanted.
04:27Yeah.
04:28And being at like where like maybe Wes was flirting with her.
04:32And she's like, oh, my God, I'm like with like Brianna chicken frying people and Wes is flirting with me.
04:35Because I don't think a woman who's falling in love with themselves would make the choices that she made.
04:40And I don't even mean that as like an insult.
04:43I just mean that like, because kind of what Lindsay was saying to her, where it's like, if you do
04:49love yourself, why are you making these choices?
04:51And you need to find this love not through the lens of a man.
04:57Right.
04:58I think Amanda doesn't know what loving herself really feels like.
05:01Yeah.
05:02And I am like, Amanda, now you're back to trying having to explain and validate your relationship again, because you
05:07were just doing that with Kyle for a decade.
05:09And when she was like, and then when she was like, well, I never haven't dated since I was 24.
05:14Lindsay had a great point.
05:15So why don't you date?
05:16Right.
05:17I don't know.
05:18Give it a try.
05:19Give it a try.
05:20I know.
05:20I do like that.
05:21Lindsay was given like hard talks with her.
05:24Lindsay already posted on threads that, of course, she did not follow suit with any of them.
05:28Um, cause Lindsay was like, he has got to go.
05:30Yeah.
05:31He has got to go.
05:31And it's sinking ship.
05:32The Titanic.
05:33And like Amanda was in agreement.
05:34It seemed like she was in agreement.
05:37Right.
05:38I was, was she in agreement or did she just want to end the conversation?
05:40Probably that.
05:41Cause she's like, Lindsay, you're so right.
05:42And Wes was probably waiting in the car outside.
05:44She was giving me hope that maybe she would end it.
05:46But then the timestamp and Italy of it all and the spitting in each other's mouths and all that.
05:51So anyways, she did not listen as Lindsay lamented.
05:55You know, what's interesting that Wes started his sit down with Kyle saying he wasn't coming back to the show.
06:01I suggested off cause I figured in like this won't make it, but like my time on camera was over.
06:09I wonder if maybe he just knew after the reunion performance.
06:12Like he did say that, didn't he?
06:14I think.
06:14Yeah.
06:14Like he did.
06:15Right.
06:16Like we were not making that up, but like how crazy it's like.
06:19So was it his choice then?
06:21I don't think so.
06:22Partially.
06:22Did he know then that he, so if he was already.
06:25Well, I wonder if maybe they let, cause that was, cause it was May 20th.
06:30I think theirs was in the reunion filmed at the end of April, right?
06:35I think so.
06:35Something like that.
06:36Something like that.
06:37So maybe they were already giving out their slips of who is coming back or not.
06:40I'm surprised that he was game to film this conversation with Kyle if he had been given the pink slip.
06:47Well, a little extra money before.
06:49I would love to know how much he got paid for this or just like overall, because we were talking
06:53about like earlier, like what was worth blowing up your life?
06:58Like, I hope he got paid a lot of money during his three year run on summer house, at least
07:03enough to substantiate literally ruining your reputation and anyone ever wanting to ever again.
07:10Well, also, cause it was funny to him being like, and Kyle, I wanted to have this conversation off camera.
07:14What would Kyle get from just sitting down and talking to you and watching the word salad that you kind
07:18of gave us?
07:19Right.
07:20I guess the main takeaways we got from him was like, that he has love for Amanda and maybe was
07:28in love with her more.
07:29Cause that was when he's like, well, you know, I told Amanda, I love her.
07:32The way you said, I love you to Amanda is the same way.
07:36I mean, I filmed and watched what happens with Lindsay last night.
07:38I was like, I love you.
07:40And Kyle was like, you said it in the way I say it to Lindsay.
07:43Right.
07:43Exactly.
07:44So.
07:44So, and then he also kind of, sort of admitted that he did have a secret girlfriend, Mija, the whole
07:51time, which Mija showed up to have a conversation with Sierra.
07:55God bless.
07:56Sorry to breeze over the Kyle and Wes.
07:57Kyle, you did your best, but Wes is only capable of doing what, like, it's just, he, we still didn't
08:03really get much clarity from Wes, to be honest.
08:06So.
08:06Like, I'm trying to think of anything major he said.
08:10It was just that he was like, yeah, I did lie to Mija.
08:12And then when Kyle would ask the questions that I was curious about, like, what do you think for the
08:19people that are saying Amanda is just going to look crazier and crazier being with a guy who can't be
08:23unfaithful?
08:24And then, oh, and then Kyle was like, do you think you're ready to be in a committed relationship to
08:27have kids?
08:28And Wes goes, um, I mean, yeah.
08:32Like, absolutely not.
08:33The um, like, sorry.
08:35Huh?
08:35That's so crazy.
08:36But I think that Mija and Sierra sit down, it was fun.
08:39It was good.
08:40It was really funny.
08:40I'm glad we also just got a chance to, like, see Mija off the phone.
08:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:45Oh, my God.
08:46Well, okay, so we learned that Mija, speaking of the phone, is having, she had a six-hour-long phone
08:51call conversation with Wes after the reunion.
08:55That's, I, you could see the shock in Sierra's face.
08:58She was like, wait, what?
08:59She's like, you didn't block him?
09:00Because Mija was explaining that it's still hard to kind of let Wes go.
09:05They were dating for, like, two and a half years or so.
09:07They were dating for a while, and then also, Sierra did apologize for kissing Wes on camera.
09:11Very sorry you had to see footage of us kissing.
09:20It's, I mean, that's not your fault.
09:23Mija was very much like, you, that that is not your fault.
09:26Like, you had no idea, but she said that it did hurt to see them kiss like that.
09:30I just, I, I mean, I can't believe it, because we know Wes is a schmuck, but I just, I
09:34feel bad for Mija.
09:36Like, that two years dealing with that is a long time, and not knowing it, but now knowing it, and
09:41looking back, I'm like, damn, I wasted so much time with this loser dude who was playing right in my
09:46f***ing face.
09:47Well, also, is he playing in Amanda's face right now?
09:49Because when Mija was like, well, we used to text, but now we just do phone calls because of her.
09:53And I'm like, oh, does that mean, is Amanda checking Wes's phone?
09:57It sounds like it.
09:57It sounds like Amanda's like, so can I see all the girls are texting?
10:00Right.
10:01Well, especially after the reunion, because I feel like Amanda was sort of gobsmacked by the revelations made at the
10:07reunion about Wes's interactions with other women that were not her.
10:12I don't, I don't think she was fully aware, fully dialed in.
10:14Well, that's okay, she kept on saying, wow, there's a lot to learn after today.
10:18Yeah.
10:18So that's where it's kind of crazy.
10:20So I'm like, now you're comfortable being so uncomfortable and stressed that he could have a dalliance at any given
10:25time.
10:26It's also interesting where Mija told him, go to Italy, go to this wedding, just be off the grid, and
10:32then he took Amanda.
10:34Yeah, I know.
10:35And I'm like, why?
10:36It's for the optics.
10:37It's for the optics, but also I'm like, I don't think it optically worked in their favor.
10:40They thought it did.
10:41Yeah.
10:41Like he was thinking, oh, this will, this will make sense.
10:44This will substantiate the wild ride we've taken everybody on.
10:48That's what I'm like.
10:49It's kind of like, does, why is he asking Mija for advice on what to do?
10:53Does he have no crisis PR?
10:55Well, I think Mija has literally been his person.
10:57I think they're best friends.
10:58They were in a full on relationship for two plus years.
11:00Like, they're like, I, I'm sure he still is texting her.
11:05Well, not texting because Amanda won't allow it, but calling her, checking in with her.
11:09But Mija did say after the Italy thing, she's like, I have to rid myself.
11:11I hope she listened to her heart for that.
11:13Let's hope.
11:14Let us hope because it really, and they were kind of like, they kind of clocked correctly.
11:19And they also admitted to like, that it could be fun in theory.
11:21Like now that Wes and Amanda are still in the open, it's not secret.
11:24Yeah.
11:25And it's not fun for him.
11:27Right.
11:27Totally.
11:28Cause this, exactly.
11:29I think that was like part of the thrill for him.
11:31Yeah.
11:32I feel like the, I feel like the thrill is going to wear off for, for Wes and hopefully
11:36Amanda realizes soon that this was, this was just a mistake and like, he's not the dude.
11:40But also it's like, cause that's where I feel Amanda is still not yet at the fully taking
11:50accountability part of it.
11:52She was getting closer at Lindsay's than she did at the reunion.
11:57I think Amanda has a bit of arrested development.
11:59I think that she sort of like her, her growth as a human being was stunted the second she
12:04met Kyle and entered a very toxic and tumultuous relationship.
12:08Like she hasn't had the time or space or opportunity to grow into the woman she really
12:13is.
12:14I don't think she knows who she is as a woman.
12:16And that's what she was saying.
12:16Like when she started to go out with Wes, she was like, I felt like I was in my twenties
12:19again.
12:19I know.
12:20I'm like, honey, you're 34.
12:21Also what I'm so confused.
12:22You wanted a kid yesterday, but also now you're happy to be in your twenties again.
12:25Yeah, I know.
12:26I think, I think she is confused, honestly.
12:28And I think Wes has confused her even more.
12:30This has been the, the, the worst thing that could ever happen to Amanda post splitting
12:36up with Kyle is meeting Wes Wilson and kind of maybe accidentally falling in love with
12:40him.
12:40Yeah.
12:41And it's interesting to neither.
12:42I wonder if it has since changed.
12:43Neither of them have watched the rest of the season, which is still so annoying.
12:47They had three weeks to watch it leading up to their, you know,
12:49their sit down conversations.
12:50And also they were supposed to watch it before the reunion, which means you're just like
12:53not, you're unprofessional.
12:55And also then I'm like, so then you could see, cause they keep on saying people keep
12:58on just coming out of thin air saying we were like to get, it wasn't just how you guys
13:03it was hand on thighs, everything like that, which is just, I mean, I don't get why they,
13:11and also I like Lindsay being like, no, Amanda, you have to go through this.
13:14You can't ignore it.
13:15Cause that's when she's like, I'm off social.
13:16I'm everything you have to, which I understand to a degree, but
13:19then she went back on social media to post that she's at dive bars.
13:22Um, so I'm glad that that helped her, but I feel she has to reckon with what she did.
13:28Yeah.
13:29I don't know if she is.
13:30I don't, I don't know that she's ready for that.
13:31I don't know that Wes is ready for that.
13:32And I honestly don't know that they, they still don't seem to understand the severity
13:37of what they did do.
13:39No.
13:39And I mean, this will be the last time we see Wes, it seems on Bravo.
13:42What do you think?
13:43Do you think Amanda's going to pack in her bags for the Hamptons?
13:45I don't know.
13:46I think maybe.
13:47Yes.
13:47I think really, I think, yeah.
13:49I think because she's so integral to the, in the city cast and is a big part of that
13:54show.
13:55I think that she and Bravo are going to figure out a way to have her do summer house
14:01still too.
14:01Yeah.
14:02I like, I just feel that in my bones.
14:04I feel like, I feel like they're hoping for some, and I think Amanda's hoping for some
14:09redemption now with, I think that's, I think that's what it means to get rid of Wes.
14:13It's like, let's get rid of the villain and remember why we loved Amanda without what,
14:18you know what I mean?
14:19And maybe they're hoping that this will like actually end their relationship.
14:23Do you know what I mean?
14:23Like maybe Bravo is doing her a favor because I don't think Wes will care about Amanda, not
14:26only because it's no longer a secret, but without a Bravo camera in front of his face with
14:30Amanda, cause the boy likes attention.
14:32He loves clout.
14:33He loves.
14:33Yeah.
14:34Yeah.
14:34My thing is, I'm like, I feel cause Drew, true point, like to remember why we loved Amanda.
14:39Do we know her?
14:40That's the thing.
14:40Maybe we'll learn why we should love.
14:42And also it's hard to, that's on the viewers, the people in the house with her.
14:46Yeah.
14:46Oh, right.
14:47I don't know if they're going to, you know what I mean?
14:48It's not like, I feel like, I do feel like they're like, say like if they keep Bailey
14:52around, Bailey did try at the reunion to level with her.
14:55And telling her that Wes scares her.
14:56Right.
14:57And I think that, I think Bailey cares about her.
14:59I think that Lindsay does care about her in some sense.
15:03I, I think with time reflection and no more Wes participation, I think that there actually
15:10is a space for Amanda.
15:12I kind of, I kind of see that.
15:14I know.
15:14I'm almost also like, does she?
15:15I think, I think Amanda will say, I think Sierra will depart.
15:19Cause she's also, I mean, she's in Fiji, but I mean, I guess they were saying Love Island
15:23ends the first, the second week of July.
15:26She could technically make it work for sure.
15:28I just think that Sierra, she's on a different, like she's going to dance with the stars.
15:32I think she should just like spread her wings, fly the coop and move on to better and brighter
15:36things.
15:37I also wonder, I'm like, Amanda might just need a beat.
15:39Like, I think she has to like, I'm taking a beat.
15:43I don't need to, I love your suede bag, but I don't need to see your suede bag walking
15:47around in every single season.
15:48But what does taking a beat mean for Amanda?
15:50I feel like without structure and without a purpose and without many friends, I feel
15:55like she's going to have to learn what 34 year olds do.
15:57I just, I'm kind of scared for her.
15:59It's like, I feel like I need her to keep existing within this reality TV space.
16:04Cause I think outside of it, it's just, she's lost.
16:09Like, I think maybe she has to be faced with the fact that she has to find herself.
16:13I don't know.
16:14The last girl who did this started doing sound baths in Arizona.
16:18Okay.
16:19So maybe.
16:20Amanda, if you want to get in the sound bath game, by all means.
16:24By all means.
16:24I don't know if you'd be good at that.
16:26It requires standing, which she doesn't really, she's a lazy girl, but.
16:29I guess you could sit sound bath.
16:30It's very like crisscross applesauce.
16:32That's true.
16:32That's true.
16:32She gets it while doing it.
16:33Yeah.
16:34I don't, I, yeah.
16:34I don't think you can sound bath from the bed though.
16:37I think that would ruin the acoustics.
16:39That's true.
16:39So you can't stay in the bed, Amanda.
16:41If you decide to be a sound bath Reiki healer.
16:42Oh my God.
16:43If her bags are packed for the Hamptons, I am going to be.
16:45Are you, are you not feeling her for the Hamptons?
16:47You don't want to see her there?
16:48I could see them document.
16:49Like maybe she takes the summer off and document how she's not grown or grown.
16:54Okay.
16:55And in the city.
16:55Yeah.
16:56I could see, cause Kyle's still on in the city and everything like that.
16:58And those, that group now knows her a little bit more.
17:01Do you think that they should do kind of like a chop half the cast, remix it with a lot
17:05of new faces?
17:06Like what, like, what is your hope for the next season of Summer House?
17:09I kind of feel like it could go either way where they kind of keep it sort of similar
17:12to the same.
17:13I feel like it's kind of a half the, the majority of the people are new from last season.
17:16Yeah, that is true.
17:17And now I'd love them to have a moment without this fucking scandal to like blossom more.
17:21Like Mia, KJ, Bailey, Levi, Dara.
17:25I would want Dara and KJ to unpack what the went down with them.
17:28Right.
17:28Cause that's like still so confusing.
17:29And Bailey and Levi having their drama with Dara.
17:32Yeah.
17:32So a lot of that going on.
17:33Ben can stay home.
17:35Yeah.
17:35If Sabrina wants to come, hey girl.
17:37We love Sabrina.
17:38We love you, Sabrina.
17:39I love the Teenage Witch and I love you.
17:41But yeah, I guess we will see what happens cause they start filming in two weeks or so.
17:44So.
17:44Oh my God.
17:45So crazy.
17:46But guys, we survived the aftermath.
17:47We did.
17:47Thank you for.
17:48Congratulations.
17:49Yes.
17:49Thank you for staying with us for it.
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