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23:06Do you remember what happened when you first saw the bad man, Alex?
23:16Hey, nice sleep, Alex.
23:20Yeah, it's okay. It's all right.
23:23Alex, stop. You see, I think that Alex can remember everything about his worst ever day because he's such a
23:32clever little boy.
23:33Okay, Alex, stop, stop. Gentle. Gentle or stop, Alex. Alex. Alex, stop. Alex. Alex, Alex.
23:40Hey, hey, hey. Alex, stop it. Come on, calm down.
23:43Ah!
23:45What's that?
23:47Building.
23:48Building.
23:49This is all building, yeah?
23:50Uh-huh.
23:51And that's the boat.
23:58Are you ready to continue?
24:02I think maybe I should just go and get his track, or...
24:06Well, Andre, I want you to try to remember how young he is.
24:12Alex doesn't yet have the vocabulary or experience to articulate what happened or his feelings about it.
24:19It's just it feels like an interrogation.
24:23Well, you're doing the right thing.
24:25Do you know that?
24:27Can you be certain? Because I didn't recognize that child.
24:30In truth, this is unprecedented for all of us.
24:35Nobody can say exactly what the long-term effects will be, but without therapy, the risk of Alex growing up
24:43to live an angry and chaotic life and hurt himself or others only increases.
25:03Andre, thank you so much for coming.
25:05Um, Ivan Agnew. We spoke on the phone.
25:08Uh, was the journey okay? I know you had some concerns.
25:11Uh, yeah, I mean, the press usually get tipped off from flight logs, so...
25:15Right.
25:16Now I buy my tickets at the airport.
25:17Yeah, yeah, I can understand.
25:19Um, if you want to put your bag on there, um, I'd like to show you something.
25:38So, this room is solely dedicated to the investigation.
25:42It's already one of the largest inquiries in British police history.
25:47And we're opening it up again, Andre.
25:52I don't understand what's changed.
25:56Well, DNA technology has moved on since 1992, and we've commissioned an independent forensic firm to reanalyse all the original
26:05samples.
26:06Okay, and does the media know about this?
26:10No.
26:12Not yet.
26:13Look, I know mistakes were made last time.
26:19But...
26:20We need your help, Andre.
26:24And I know this is sensitive.
26:29But I'd like to talk to you about Alex.
26:32Thanks.
26:58Hey, what's going on?
26:59What's going on?
27:02What's going on?
27:05Or you go, or you go, or you go.
27:06No, no, no, I don't look at you.
27:07You see with this piece of surfier?
27:09That's what I do, that's what I do.
27:12Look, look, look.
27:14Hey, wow.
27:15I was going to touch you, eh?
27:17You have passed the race box for your house?
27:20What have you been doing?
27:22Well, we'll get the dog or what?
27:23Yes, exactly.
27:25Pass it.
27:55Alex.
27:56You're home.
27:58You okay?
28:00Yeah.
28:01Where have you been?
28:02I've been back for hours.
28:04It's just the time.
28:05Just helping a mate out with something after school.
28:07Yeah.
28:07Yeah.
28:08Have you eaten?
28:10Well, not yet actually, but I can do you a plate if you'd like.
28:13Yeah.
28:21Um, are you not going to ask about London?
28:27Sure.
28:29How was it?
28:31Yeah, it was, um, it was okay.
28:36They're reopening the case.
28:38And they actually want to re-interview you.
28:43The thing is, I told them everything I remember.
28:47Plus, I don't even think about it now.
28:49I know, Alex.
28:50I just...
28:51I said we'd at least talk about it.
28:53You can't speak for me, Dad.
28:56Not anymore.
28:57Not anymore.
29:06Alex.
29:08Can you knock?
29:09Sorry.
29:10I, um...
29:12I didn't think.
29:14Alex, look.
29:15I, um...
29:18I get that you blame the police.
29:20I do.
29:22But this isn't about them.
29:25And it's not about me.
29:28This is about you.
29:29Don't you dare bring Mum into this.
29:32I don't want to remember my mother for her death.
29:34I want to remember her for her life.
29:36And what she believed in.
29:37What she wanted for me.
29:38Okay.
29:38You know she didn't want me in mainstream education.
29:40But that was a conversation.
29:41And you know she didn't want me eating animals.
29:43At least eat fish.
29:44You need to get protein, Alex.
29:46That's just...
29:46You're not dragging me through all that again.
29:49Alex, wait.
29:50I...
29:57Many people must be asking, is anyone safe when murders can take place in broad daylight?
30:02I've always felt safe here.
30:03Always.
30:04So it's...
30:05It's changed my life.
30:06There are suspects.
30:08Four men were spotted near the scene.
30:10Perhaps the most important was the one seen washing his hands in this stream shortly after the murder.
30:16He, like the others, hasn't been traced.
30:18And the police fear that if it was the killer, he may strike again.
30:25Sir.
30:31Andre.
30:33Nicholas Campbell.
30:34Please, stay seated.
30:44I understand you're having second thoughts.
30:47Yeah, I just, um...
30:49I don't think I can do this.
30:54What's that?
30:55Is that Rainbow?
30:57You want to show my friend?
30:58Yes, have a look.
31:00Yes.
31:02We need information, Andre.
31:06And in order to get it, we must be friends with the media.
31:10Understand?
31:12Not really.
31:13We...
31:15We really need this, Andre.
31:30Okay.
31:31Daddy, why don't we go?
31:32Hey, it's okay.
31:33We're here with Paul.
31:35Can draw some more pictures.
31:36Yeah, we'll be back soon.
31:38No.
31:39Daddy.
31:39There's some stickers.
31:40Thank God.
31:42What?
31:43Maybe you could draw a picture for when Dad gets back, no?
31:47What's your favourite one?
31:48What's your favourite sticker there?
31:54Here we go.
31:55Andre!
31:56Andre!
32:04Andre!
32:05Andre!
32:08Has Alex spoken yet?
32:09How much does Alex remember, Andre?
32:10Andre!
32:16I don't know how Alex will be in the future, but I just want to say to anyone who knows
32:24the
32:24person who did this, no matter how they might feel about them, please come forward before
32:31he destroys anyone else's life.
32:33Andre!
32:34Have you made any progress?
32:35Any updates on the case?
32:36Where are you living under?
32:37Alex, don't throw up!
32:38Alex, don't throw up!
32:39Alex, don't throw up!
32:40Alex, don't throw up!
32:40Alex, don't throw up!
32:40Alex, don't throw up!
32:40Alex, don't throw up!
32:41If you could just respect the family's privacy as a stage.
32:48Alright.
32:50Who's next?
32:57Oh.
33:00Hey!
33:28It's not just about what Alex needs, you know?
33:34You lost her too, Andre.
33:37What do you need?
33:45Come here.
33:54Are you sure about this?
33:57Hey, I won't be long.
34:02Hey, what's the matter?
34:04I'll only be a couple of minutes.
34:05You'll be okay a minute.
34:06Yeah, look, we can play some games, mate.
34:08We'll be back before you know it.
34:09No.
34:14Alex, I did explain, didn't I?
34:16I'm going to see where Mommy died.
34:19I'm going to lay a rose.
34:21And say goodbye properly, I won't be long.
34:24I want to come with you.
34:26Alex, I don't think...
34:27I want to.
34:33You want to say goodbye too?
34:35Yes.
34:37I don't think that's a good idea.
34:40Hey.
34:42You need to be sure you know what we're doing.
34:45You want to come and say goodbye?
34:47Yes.
34:50Okay.
34:52Are you sure?
34:55Yeah.
34:56You all right?
34:59Okay.
35:00Just don't pay him any attention, okay?
35:04Right, step back, please, all right?
35:06Let him walk.
35:07Let him walk.
35:08All right, let him walk.
35:11Get back.
35:12Get back.
35:14Get back.
35:14Get back.
35:15Get back.
35:15Get back.
35:16Get back.
35:17Get back.
35:17Get back.
35:17Get back.
35:18Take it out of his head and pass it!
35:46Is this the place?
35:54If Danny's here, I'll always be here.
36:10Are you remembering?
36:21What about this? Do you look anything like this?
36:25Okay, that's a no.
36:29How about this, Alex?
36:33No? Okay.
36:35I'll tell you what, do you remember anything about what he was wearing? Like, did he have a T-shirt
36:40on? Like Daddy? Like what Daddy's wearing? Or like a shirt with a collar? Like this?
36:45Is it like this? Or like what Paul's wearing? Like this? Like this? A shirt? Yeah? Do you wear a
36:50shirt like that? With buttons on? Yeah? Shirt? Okay.
36:56Was he thin like Daddy? Was he fat like Paul?
37:01He's like Daddy. Like Daddy? Okay. That's good. Really good. This is really good, mate.
37:07Yeah. Was he big or small, Alex? I mean, he's a child, Paul. Everyone's big.
37:16Batman.
37:18Batman.
37:19He was...
37:20Batman.
37:21We'll play with Batman later. Was he wearing trousers or shorts?
37:25Batman.
37:25What about Batman?
37:27Belt.
37:29Belt? Do you have a belt like Batman?
37:31Yeah.
37:32Yeah? He had a belt.
37:35Batman.
37:35Batman.
37:38He meant the utility belt he wears over his costume. The man's shirt wasn't tucked in, but he had a
37:43belt on top. I know it's odd, but Alex was short.
37:47Young, white, thin, short hair, white shirt, blue trousers, brown shoes, carrying a black bag.
37:57That is some boy you've got. Thank you, Andre. I know you're focusing on the funeral, but this is... it's
38:06excellent.
38:08Is it?
38:10It means we can now go back through every witness statement looking for a match.
38:14Yeah, but this means that Alex remembers everything. And we don't know what this is doing to him.
38:23Alex's description means we go back through every statement looking for anything resembling a match.
38:29Look, I know it's a lot on top of everything else, but this isn't wasted time. Someone must have seen
38:35this man.
38:39Talking of wasted time.
38:48We are aware of your work with other forces, Professor Britton, as well as your successes, D.I. Pedder.
38:58And we basically need to narrow our pool of suspects. That's how you put it, isn't it, Keith?
39:04So, do you think you could create a psychological profile of the monster who did that?
39:10Oh, he's no monster. He's a man aged between 20 and 30 with poor heterosocial skills.
39:19He'll have a powerful, deviant sexual fantasy life and probably some form of dysfunction.
39:24If he's employed, it will be an unskilled occupation.
39:28And he'll be single, living with parents or alone in a bedsit.
39:33And I doubt very much he was known to the victim, or else the child wouldn't be alive.
39:37My name's Rachel, and we don't say the victim here.
39:41You got all that from a few photographs, Mr. Britton?
39:44That's the real conundrum.
39:47Why was the boy allowed to live?
39:51It's Professor.
39:56Andre?
39:58Andre?
40:00What is it, Mom?
40:03They're here.
40:06What's up?
40:08Look.
40:12They've found us.
40:36The man washing his hands at the stream had a black bag.
40:41And after Alex's description, I knew there was a statement somewhere about a white shirt and a bag.
40:47And?
40:48You found it.
40:49Doctor.
40:50Doctor's wife.
40:51Said she passed the same man three times and was suspicious.
40:55And when she saw him the last time...
40:57I noticed he had a belt or some sort of strap wrapped around his waist.
41:02Like Batman.
41:05Like Batman.
41:07Yeah.
41:08She saw our killer.
41:22You were talking about his...
41:23faces quite thin?
41:25Yes.
41:25First, a notorious crime that two months ago made headlines all over Britain.
41:30On Wimbledon Common in southwest London, a young mother, Rachel Nickell, was waylaid and repeatedly stabbed.
41:36Her scratched and bruised two-year-old son was found clinging to her body.
41:40The man was in his twenties or thirties. He was tall, more than five feet ten, and had short brown
41:44hair.
41:45He had a white shirt with buttons and dark trousers, possibly blue, and was carrying a small, dark bag.
42:03Paul, this can't be normal.
42:06They're going through our bins.
42:07Yeah, and we'll deal with that, Andrea.
42:09But look, they're stealing our post. They're ringing the doorbell at all hours.
42:12Well, have a word.
42:12They're not listening, Nick.
42:14Andre.
42:15Right, there's been a development overnight as a result of the crime watch appeal.
42:18Several people have come forward and given the same name from the photo fair.
42:22He's in custody now.
42:26Okay.
42:39So it all matches up.
42:41Basically, he's our photo fit on legs.
42:44And an even better match for Professor Britton's profile.
42:48Oh, Professor now, is it?
42:51Colin Stagg.
42:52Twenty, single, unemployed, lives near the common and visits every day.
42:56Yeah.
42:56And he admits to walking his dog there on the 15th.
42:58He says he was back at home by the time of the murder.
43:01The neighbors reckon he's a weirdo.
43:03And we've already found knives in his flat.
43:06Plus a box of black magic.
43:15You know, I wake up, do my paper round, and I go back to my flat, get my dog Brandy,
43:22and we walk around the common.
43:24And did you ever see Rachel, Colin, on the common?
43:28Well, I saw someone who looked like her, yeah, about two years ago.
43:32I thought that's a nice-looking girl.
43:34You know, like I'd like to bump into her again, you know, but...
43:40But you didn't?
43:41Well, no.
43:47What about this one?
43:50It looks good.
43:52Oh, it's in half.
43:53No good.
43:54Do you want to throw that one?
44:05Go on.
44:05It's another two there.
44:07I'm so sorry.
44:09I just had to come over to her.
44:11It's Andre, isn't it?
44:13It was your wife who was murdered in Wimbledon.
44:16Let's go.
44:16Go, go, go.
44:17Sorry.
44:18Oh, this must be your little Alex.
44:19Sorry, sorry.
44:20Oh, no, I just wanted to make sure that you're both okay.
44:22Yeah, he's okay.
44:23I'm sorry, I didn't...
44:25Oh, God.
44:26I didn't have it.
44:35Now, the thing is, Colin, your neighbour says that you were acting strangely on the day of the murder.
44:41And when you told her about it, you looked like you'd recently bathed and changed.
44:44I know who you're talking about and she's wrong.
44:50Oh, sorry.
44:51Could I have a quick word?
45:00Yeah, we got another neighbour saying she saw him earlier that day going on to the common at the time
45:05when, according to him, he was already back home.
45:07She also says she saw him carrying a black bag.
45:11Yeah.
45:12To be perfect.
45:14To be perfect.
45:17No.
45:18Goodbye.
45:23Go!
45:31Now, take your time.
45:34It's number five.
45:37Are you sure?
45:38Number five is the man I saw.
45:40100%.
45:49what if i told you colby that a very reliable witness picked you out of an identity parade
45:55this morning and is certain that she saw you on the day of the murder near the murder scene
46:01at 10 10 10 17 and 10 23 a.m it wasn't me the thing is i don't believe you
46:11colin and neither will
46:13anybody else it wasn't me well he admits sunbathing naked on the commons so charging with indecency
46:29but we're going to need an admission on the murder but he's lying sir i agree a hundred percent she
46:36said yeah he's a compelling suspect but you know as well as i do without an admission cps will say
46:42all this is circumstantial can we get the eyewitness to shore it off alex yeah well should we consider
46:52a special id parade for him or show him the suspect's picture at least no he's so young
47:01sir its evidential value will be limited well alex needs to be allowed to be a child and
47:07we need to get that confession we'll get it try and remember people here don't know about our parts
47:19so just don't forget that yes if you'd let me
47:31andre alex hola què tal molt bé i vosaltres arreu just a temps estem tots a base grà cies ara vinc
47:40benvinguts
47:53espero que tingueu gana eh ei per fi heu arribat passeu passeu selleu selleu grà cies selleu selleu selleu
48:05goodå ‚ professor now who doesn't see you and is Pigstein's
48:09don't know why I don't tell you are falling too paid to solve the problem
48:09just
48:09when his name isúsica
48:12alright
48:17c'mon
48:18un
48:18you
48:22you
48:29it's
48:30Alex? No, that's it. I am vegetarian.
48:35But your father told me that you eat fish.
48:37Yes, what does he eat?
48:38Ah, there are vegetarians who eat fish?
48:40No, I didn't eat fish anymore.
48:44But it doesn't cost me to prepare something else.
48:46No, Alex is accessible.
48:49This is an adolescent, man.
48:50Well, precisely because it's an adolescent.
48:52Alex, it's a thing, try it and if you don't like it, don't do it.
48:55Do you want to vomit?
48:57Hey, don't let you go.
49:01No, don't let me go.
49:03No, don't let me go.
49:04No, don't let me go.
49:04Thank you so much.
49:05Until you're 18, you do as I say, okay?
49:08Stop embarrassing us.
49:09Eat the fish.
49:11Spare the rod and spoil the child, eh?
49:13No.
49:16Do I get punished for stuff like this, you know?
49:18Gracias.
49:21You're letting her down.
49:22Look, your mother would be ashamed without you acting right now, okay?
49:26Eat the fish.
49:27You're worrying the police?
49:28Eat the food.
49:29You don't speak for her!
49:31Hey, hey, hey, hey.
49:31Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Alex, go on the net.
49:32Hey, hey, hey, hey.
49:36Alex.
49:36Alex, go on the net, please.
49:38Let's blow up!
50:04She's saying it isn't him.
50:07I'm saying that we've had to release him.
50:11But if it is him, what if he comes for Alex now,
50:15now that he knows that you aren't him?
50:17Alex is safe, Andre.
50:18And this man will not be out there much longer.
50:21How can you say he's safe? You said this was the man,
50:23and now he's free. I don't understand.
50:30Back in a minute.
50:35What did he say?
50:38They've had to release him.
50:41Why?
50:42I don't know.
50:44Insufficient evidence.
50:45That doesn't make sense.
50:46I know, it doesn't make sense.
50:47But I don't know what to do.
50:49I don't know what to do about these gifts.
50:52I don't know what to do about that lot out there.
50:53As soon as they catch him, I'm sure that this will...
50:56Because right now, the killer's still out there.
50:58And Keith, Keith can't guarantee Alex's safety.
51:01No one can.
51:02Okay.
51:02No, no one can.
51:03And I promised Rachel that I would look after that boy.
51:05Okay, you don't want him to hear you, do you?
51:06He can't carry on like this.
51:07He can't carry on like this.
51:08I know, I know.
51:10And between the kind, kind people, therapists, police and press,
51:17he can't have a normal childhood, can he?
51:23And maybe that's it.
51:24Maybe that's what I need to do is take him somewhere
51:26where they don't know who he is.
51:30No.
51:31But what else, Mum?
51:32What else?
51:33Maybe this is his only chance of having a fresh start
51:36if I take him away for good.
51:37No, you can't make a decision like that now.
51:40Mum, stop.
51:42Not now.
51:45Okay.
51:51Don't Alex hear you like this.
52:00Since the beginning of the Rachel Nickell inquiry,
52:03police have questioned 120 suspects altogether,
52:06but still appear to have little to go on.
52:08And despite the massive public response to the crime watch appeal,
52:12it seems they're virtually back to square one.
52:14Colin Stagg isn't just a good suspect.
52:16He's our killer.
52:17And we need you to help us prove it.
52:21Now, we've been contacted by a woman who saw Stagg on the news at the indecency hearing.
52:27She says that they were swapping lonely hearse letters at the end of 1990 through 91,
52:32until Staggs became explicit.
52:34Well, obscene, she said.
52:36And you're thinking of providing him with a new pen pal of your own?
52:40We think it's worth a try.
52:43Now, with that in mind, do you think you can help us to design a covert operation to get the
52:50truth out of Stagg?
52:54I think so.
52:56Oh, okay.
52:58But we'll need to move quickly.
53:00Because if Rachel's murderer isn't caught, he will kill again.
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